₦airaland Forum

With this news, Edo has suddenly become part of SS again in the eyes of certain folks who have hitherto been blackmailing Edos by calling them Yorubas and claiming that Edo is more of a SW or NC central state for being governed by APC. Some Nigerians and inconsistency of opinion are 5 and 6.

PrecisionFx:
Nah, Awolowo started that.

The same Awolowo who was jailed by a coalition of North and East for refusing to align with Hausafulanis? Go back to your history books.

PrecisionFx:
The southern leaders that FFK is talking about are SW leaders.

He is actually talking about his own father Faani Power and the likes of Azikiwe and Okpara who pioneered the selling out of the South to the North.

Bede2u:
where was nadeco wen ojukwu went to aburi to get restructuring?

Where u yoruba moslemsy not singing gowon's praise wen he abondoned the aburi accord?

All sw had to do was vote gej in for a 2nd term and get a bettet deal from him...knowing that we are all southerners....sw said no...nw the north knows they can keep power indefinitely by aligning with the different southern zones when it suits them.

South is screwed

Aburi Accord became an option to consider because the independence constiution which we all mutually consented to was destroyed unilaterally by Ironsi. Now may I ask you where Ojukwu was when Aguiyi Ironsi was violating, subverting and vandalizing the independence constiution according to his whims and caprices?

Of what benefit was GEJ's first term to his own SS people to warrant the belief that a better deal could have been secured from him?
Was GEJ really concerned about the interest of the South going by how he gave national awards to Hausafulani rogues and their Southern Collaborators while ignoring his own brother Ken Saro Wiwa who pioneered the new dimension of the struggle that made him president? Could a GEJ who sacked Festus Odumegwu for boldly speaking the truth about an issue through which Northern hegemony has been given constiutional backing for years be said to have been genuinely concerned about the South's interest? What with Jonathan's sacking of his own fellow Bayelsan as National Security Adviser and replacing him with a Northern elite at a time it was being suspected that the Northern elite were behind the Boko Haram security challenge threatening the nation?
What of his allocation of a whooping N500bn for the building of Almajiri schools in the Core North in total unconcern about his own Niger Delta people living in coastal shanties drinking crude oil polluted water and their children schooling under trees?
If you think Jonathan was genuinely interested in Southern interest and unity, then you need to critically examine his administration.

DJInfluence:
I believe, some would have said, it was tribalism had OBJ recognized Abiola. So it´s technically a no win situation for him. Don´t get me wrong, i also think, he should have recognized him.

However, what about the other presidents? They should have, but didn´t. This topic came up every year since 1999 at the same time like clockwork, but none of them recognized him. And why did Buhari took so long to do that? What if he didn´t win a 2nd term? All the same, kudos to him for giving honours to whom it´s due in the person of Late Abiola.

Obasanjo really had no excuse not to do it. It wasn't the perception of tribalism that restrained him from doing so but his ego and hatred for Abiola whom he said was not the Messiah at a time every reasonable Nigerian was agitating and sacrificing for the actualization of June 12.
Didn't Jonathan also not stubbornly refuse to do it even though no one would have had any basis to accuse him of tribalism for that? Even Yaradua with all the accolades showered on his as a 'democrat' refused to have anything to do with June 12 in his 2.5 year reign.
I think resentment against Abiola was generally a PDP philosophy as the IBB who annuled the said election ended up as the founder of PDP.

Kennydoc:
It depends on your state and tribe. The present day Edo and Delta states were never part of Biafra but Cross River, Akwa Ibom, Rivers and Bayelsa were.
Moreover, there are South South Igbos who identify with the mainstream Igbos in the South East.
You should know that South South isn't synonymous with any ethnic group, but South East always refers to Igbos.

Aren't there indigenous Igalas in Anambra State?

JudgeOGBUNABALI:
So true!
Igbos are alone now!

Lamidi Cownu will soon remove Delta State from Biafra map.

Doyin2:
Perhaps the guy forgot that Auchi is a major Muslim community.

Care explaining how you came about that assertion?

Blainz:
Edo state has the highest number Muslim indigenes in the entire south. Auchi population of muslims is more than kaduna south Christians

Where did you get your statistics from? You mean Edo State with a handful of indigenous moslems in Etsako area alone has more moslems than states like Osun, Oyo, Ebonyi and others which have indigenous moslems in nearly across all their LGAs? You must be a commedian.

Osagyefo98:
The mods are coming after you for insulting a tribe.

I guess they are congratulating you for insulting Edo all this while?

Osagyefo98:
Your resentment doesn't add or remove anything from their lives so continue in ur resentment.

Nobody give a damn, if u cannot tackle a problem and always blame others like buhari then sorry is your name.

It doesn't need long epistle.

You can't solve a problem without finding out the root cause. This is not about Buhari and has nothing to do with him. Your attempt to smuggle him into the issue here marks the dishonesty and evasiveness of the typical Igbo man.
The problem of Nigeria is basically structural and we must all first be enlightened enough on the origin of this faulty structure before any solution approach can work. Pity is your name!

Osagyefo98:
Continue blaming igbos while herdsmen ravage and islamise ur land.

I guess my land is Enugu where herdsmen attacked and the governor's response was to declare prayer and fasting. My state long ago passed a law banning night grazing and disarming herdsmen.
You see the arrogance, remorselessness and denial of responsibility which makes other Nigerians resent you Igbos?

GMbuharii:
Guy,we will all be losers if we keep on dwelling our thoughts about the past. So I should keep mute and allow evil to overthrow me and my loved ones cos the igbos did this and that in the past,huh?

According to you, Igbos alone are the ones bold enough to speak up against the fulani herdsmen menace. Aren't you by that assertion suggesting that all non-Igbos, yourself inclusive, are keeping mute and allowing evil overthrow you and your loved ones? Without the past there can't be the present. We all know that Fulani Herdsmen menace is not a problem in itself but rather a symptom of a more fundamental problem which has to do with the faulty structure we operate in the country courtesy of the past and even present irrational choices and shortsighted decisions of Igbo political elite. So of what use is it to just keep verbally speaking out against Fulani Herdsmen attacks without a corresponding agitation and action aimed at addressing the root cause of the problem? As far as I am concerned, those who were bold enough to, take action towards setting in motion the campaign for a structural change that will holistically address Nigeria's problems including Fulani Herdsmen menace are the Niger Deltans, hence I don't see how rational it is for you as a Niger Deltan to keep transferring a glory meant for you to Igbos.

GMbuharii:
If I may ask,in what way did their shortsighted actions in the past lead to this present menace?

If you are a good student of history you wouldn't have asked this question. But to oblige you, I would that you realize that it is a universal principle in political philosophy that the experimentation of unitary system in a multi-ethnic society (which Nigeria is a good example of) always leads to incessant clashes of culture and it's resultant effects of chaos, daily bloodshed, enduring political instability, intractible terrorism, corruption in government, tribalism and nepotism, loss of nationalistic fervour in the citizenry, etc which all culminate in failed state status as we have it today before us in Nigeria. Now tell me which tribe's political elite forced us to ever experiment with unitary system which has put us in this sorry state tiil today. You think it was the Hausafulanis?

GMbuharii:
f you are hinging any blame on the igbos for so called past mistakes then our grandfathers, Anthony Enahoro, Herbert Macauley,Awolowo,Zik,Okotie Eboh,etc, who fought for independence prematurely should equally share that blame,cos the north weren't ready and the Brits manipulated and gave them power. And we have been suffering for that till today.

Like I have already explained above, our problem has nothing to do with the timing of independence but the criminal and illegal imposition of unitary system on the country as against the federal system we were operating and making rapid progress prior to and immedietely after independence.

GMbuharii:
The hand writing of the northern menace/internal colonisation have been on the wall for decades and only the igbos are bold enough to look at them in the face,challenge them.
We are all thinking it, but they are saying it.

The bolded was exactly the reason why the departing colonial masters bequethed a strictly federal system on us on our demand. Recall as well that the North too was in morbid fear of Southern domination
through superior academic endowments hence they accepted the proposal of federalism which naturally insulates each and every section of the society from the domination agenda and internal colonization tendencies of every other section. But only the Igbos weren't comfortable with the federal system because they felt it would put a check on their already high spate of migration to other regions to enjoy the same status as the natives.

GMbuharii:
am a Niger Deltan and a sailor. I hate the things I see whenever we are taking fuel from Lagos to the deltas,to the people who own the crude.

I am a Niger Deltan too and equally hate seeing what you complain of above. In addition I hate having to make do with a paltry 13% derivation knowing fully well that the other regions enjoyed a whooping 75% derivation in the times of their groundnut pyramids, Cocoa and palm oil.

GMbuharii:
ote,if you guys believe the igbos brought this menance on us and should be in forefront against it,then leave them alone,stop abusing them when they are doing so.
If I cannot help a man,I leave him alone,I don't make things worse for him.

We don't abuse them when they are doing so. What we stand against is when they try to create the false impression that they are innocent victims of the system hence deserve the kind of applause your likes give them without knowing that they actually sowed the seeds of the choas on ground.

CioAngels:
Obaseki did not know before that Bendelites are not in separatetable when a Delta girl, though married to a Benin man passed the Edo test for job with 60percent was nit employed because she is from Delta but chose Edo girl with 40percent. Shame to him and to Okowa.

While your allegation above might be true, you may however be shocked to hear that one of the reasons Obaseki is facing resistance to his second term bid from some camps in Edo State is that he imported persons from Delta State to take up appointments in his cabinet to the neglect of Edo sons who sacrificed materially and worked tirelessly for his victory in 2016. One of his aides from Delta State is reported to have so much benefited from Edo State funds to the extent that he has been able to afford a N200m worth property in Lekki, Lagos.

GMbuharii:
Good.

We love naija,but she's been hijacked by the north/fulanis. And they're strangling everyone.

My mum Called me from uromi some days back and told me of the frightening presence of Fulani herdsmen there. People are afraid of going to their farm now. Can you imagine that!!

Look we must commend the igbos for their bold moves. God help us

Judging from historical perspective, Igbos put us in this insecurity problem in the first instance, so the law of natural justice and nemesis places on their shoulders the responsibility of leading the campaign against the fulani herdsmen menace hence they deserve no commendation for campaigning against a national menace resulting from their past shortsighted actions and choices.

Binikingdowm:
oga what's paining you in this matter? Are you from delta or Edo state? What's your business, this is how you people bring hatred and insults to your ethnic group and will also be complaining other tribes hate you.

Or have you seen Edo or delta people insult igbos on Igbos progressive thread?

You said Edo state isn't developed, I dare you to mention any Igbo state that can stand toe to toe with Edo state in any positive index.

Don't mind that intruder. Edo State currently occipies 4th position on GDP per Capita which is the single encompassing measure of overall prosperity of societies. No state from his Igbo land makes the top seven on that GDP/Capita ranking table.

Osagyefo98:
Keep diverting and continue shooting ur self on the leg.



Do Edo state and calculate the number of miserable index in the state.

Thank me later.

U leave the ravaging situation in ur land and be chasing shadows.

I don't know what you mean by misreable index, but in terms of socioeconomic indices, the available statistics never places Edo below 4th position in any table among the 36 states.

AreaFada2:
A result of splitting stares anyhow. Imagine the combined recurrent expenditure of Edo and Delta now.
But some will point of growth of Asaba since 1991 as proof that creating new states is good.

It is often best to avoid the topic not to seem to be eyeing the oil of Delta from Edo perspective.

States currently have decent IGR and should do well if not for corruption.

You just said it all. As an Edolite I personally don't like it when an Edo/Delta collaboration is championed by an Edo person as it would suggest Edo is eyeing Delta State oil which however is never the intention any day. While I would prefer that Edo State goes about her affairs alone, if this very collaboration is being championed by a Deltan, I may be neutral in disposition to it, but if it is by an Edo person, then it won't go down well with me as I would advise him to abandon the idea immedietely, because much as he might have a genuine intentions behind it, the perception of the public matters more in the affairs of men.
As a state with the most diverse mineral deposits base, the most strategic location, the most diverse vegetation belts, and a lot other first position advantages over every other state of the federation, I believe strongly that with constantly visionary and pragmatic government in Osadebey House, Edo State doesn't really need collaboration with any other state to clinch and permanently retain first position in all socioeconomic indices in the committee of Nigerian states. Though no thanks to the Lucky Igbinedion administration which dragged Edo State back by at least 25 years.

BluePrincee:
You are mistaking bro. Edo North is mainly Muslim oo. Auchi etsako etc

So in your mind only Auchi makes up Edo-North?
The over 95% Christian populations of Akoko-Edo and Owan areas of the same Edo North renders the Auchi moslem population insignificant in Edo North. Moreover the Moslem population of the Etsako area is not really more than the Christian figure there contrary to the frequent claim by online resident analysts who are neither natives nor residents of Edo State. Is Auchi not currently home to the national headquarter of one of the fastest growing pentecostal churches?

theenchanter:
the bolded is one of d most abused excuse ever!

What's maturity to u, abokina?

Couldn't have been better said. I have never heard his likes explain exactly what that immaturity means in their minds.

Guestlander:
We are not matured for state police? At least the state police will have a federal oversight, who is regulating the thugs who are working for most of the governors?

You dey mind that guy? Even with the gruesome genocides being carried out daily on innocent citizens in Zamfara and even Katsina, he feels the tendency by governors to abuse state police for election is the most important security challenge before the nation.

Kabir2Mohammad:
Hopefully state police will address shortage of manpower
bedevilling NPF and failure of states to pay them on time
will jeopardize our wellbeing because armed men will not
tolerate work without pay

Thank you. Governors will now be forced to accountably use the huge security votes they receive.

Bede2u:
bro edit that ur nonsense post b4 people starts insulting igbos because of ur stupidity....this is a welcome developement

Honestly, I am shocked seeing such a comment from him as a Southerner first and then an Igbo man who actually should know much better.

Blue3k:
You lost your bet. He was wary of idea because of funding and governors.

https://punchng.com/why-i-dont-believe-in-state-police-buhari/amp/

What I read in the link is that he described it as a great idea but highlighted and even gave kudos to a governor who had started putting up a state owned security architecture but highlighted the temporary constraints which may be faced by the governors of interested states. He specifically mentioned funding which we all sincerely know some states will face. His mention of governors there was not in the sense that they will abuse it for election heist as peddled by the PDP. I therefore don't see how such stance translates to a position against it unlike Jonathan who declared totally that he didn't want it because it would worsen the already bad security situation.
Even those of us applauding the final approval now know deep down in us that only states like Lagos, Rivers, Ogun, Edo, Delta, Kaduna, Oyo, Anambra, Imo and Akwa Ibom may be able to bear the burden of funding.

Goke7:
NO, cos they can no longer pass the buck to Abuja. It will be evident to all that the Governors and states govt are the real fraud in Nigeria there by making folks to take state Govt elections more seriously

Flesh and blood did not reveal this to you.

Goke7:
Agreed, but if you have a dumb VP ko? I no mention name o!

Thank God that for the first time since 1999 we have a VP full of and brimming over with ideas. But it takes the combination of such a VP and a president who acknowledges his VP's brilliance for progress to be made. We never had such a president before now.

Blue3k:
I dont believe that I read plenty of articles that state he was wary of the idea. It was Osinbajo that openly gave his support.

Can you please share the link to one of such articles here? I can bet that you won't find any. However I can show you a link to where Buhari threw his weight behind decentralization of the police far before now. The PDP created that default perception you hold about Buhari's take on this matter.

Goke7:
The VP is the engine behind this regime but lot of folks are just tooj ignorant of his brilliant inputs.

It however takes a listening president to bow to superior ideas from his VP. That is the difference between Buhari and all the other presidents we have had since 1999.