₦airaland Forum

RTSC:
The last time I checked Peter obi as vice presidential candidate won far more votes for atiku in the south south than even the south east.

If we are talking history, the mdwest who were languishing under the tyranny of awolowo had to break away from the western region.

Keep talking nonsense.

The SS is far more populated than the SE. According to the 2006 census results, the SS comes third while the SE comes 6th i.e. a distant last. So, that Obi got more votes for PDP in the SS than in his own SE is by default and not by anything else. What you should therefore look at is the percentage of votes he got for PDP in both regions, and on that he got a higher figure in his SE. The SS is not playing politics of bitterness and vengeance like the SE.
The Midwest was able to break away not from Awolowo's tyranny (recall that Awolowo, as a federalist, wasn't against creation of more regions but was against the hypocrisy of Azikiwe who wanted a region created out of the Western Region but was vehemently opposed to the creation of COR Region out of his own Eastern Region) but from the Western Region because the Yorubas' grip was not as tight and firm as that of Zik and Igbos from whom the Eastern minorities couldn't break away despite how hard they tried through democratic means until they had to take to violent approach in the form of Isaac Boro's NDR declaration which Igbos still thwarted with the military might of One-Nigeria at a time they were still in romance with Hausafulanis.
Igbos only came to identify with the SS when their usual ally, the Hausafulanis, stopped inviting them to the party at the center.
If the political alliances between Igbos and Hausafulanis get revived some day such that Hausafulanis ditch Yorubas, all these SS-SE mouthing will become history immediately. We have been down that road several times.

RTSC:
More and more nonsense.
Using valuable time for bigotry.

The igbos have benefited from the pdp. The only time we could have gotten the presidency was the Jonathan era which we gladly left to bring peace to the delta.

Igbos are a majority ethnic group in control of Nigeria's only National Party.
We are big players in the National Assembly, stealing the National Assembly right from under nose of the apc.
We will become president and you would be alive to see it.

And the great thing is that we would have earned our spot unchallenged and without grievances.
So the Jonathan scenario can never happen.

As for the southwest, your fate is sealed with the apc.
Keep riding under the buhari wave for now. Once he leaves, you guys are fuccked.

Of course I knew you are not immune to the typical Igbo disease of assuming that whoever sees through the deceitfulness of the PDP as regards the interest of the South must be from the SW.
If you had really benefited from the PDP as a people, then why was Ohaneze Ndigo leadership threatening to withdraw support for PDP should the party not pick an Igbo VP running mate in the build up towards the just concluded presidential election?
Didn't Ohaneze recently confess that PDP didn't carry out any meaningful infrastructural project in the SE throughout her 16 years? What then is the meaning of benefit?
The PDP was formed not by Igbos but by the Hausafulani controlled Katsina Mafia whose PDM metamorphosed into it overnight in 1998 with Igbos being accepted into it as second fiddle players to Hausafulanis as usual. Likewise, IBB one of the founders and financiers of the party, recently confessed to infusing a military wing into the party at its formation stage. The military wing as we know it is dominated by the Hausafulanis, so how could such a party be a national party? Or you think the national outlook of parties is a measure of geographical spread?
So the Saraki who stole National Assembly leadership is now an Igbo by adoption? And with his stolen tenure ending in days from now amidst the consensus that another Northerner replaces him while Gbaja clinches speakership, how do Igbos come into the scheme?
Keep dreaming of clinching presidency when you have already used insults and hate messages to alienate the Hausafulanis whose partnership you can't do without to make it happen.

The Jonathan scenario was to a large extent due to the hedge of sycophancy you Igbos built around him to the alienation of him from the other parts of the South and Middle Belt. As it stands now, only the Middle Belt might sympathize completely with the prospect of Igbo president. Among you Igbos yourselves, there is division as majority of you want Biafra.

RTSC:
Oh really?
When have igbos never took care of the south south?
Why do you think we had a Jonathan as president?

Igbos could as well have fought for the presidency and gotten it as well.

Keep talking nonsense.

Look up history. If you had always been considerate of the SS' interest, then why is it that an average SS person is not too thrilled by Igbo proposals for cross regional alliances? Let us go back in history and look first at the refusal of the Igbo political elite to grant the COR Region only for Gowon, a Northerner, to be the one to grant it to them in another form.

Ugosample:
BUHARI is a bigger mistake....
And Nigerians rewarded bad behaviour by re electing that sonofaBitch

GEJ being kicked out is not my pain, it's whom my country men decided to replace him with

Unfortunately tho, most of them are now feeling the brunt of his bad governance

they will continue to suffer and die....

the consequences of their foolish actions

You guys for naija enjoy unasef you hear?

we will be watching from here

Buhari looks like a bigger mistake in your eyes because you are a Southerner. The Northerners especially of his own Hausafulani extraction don't see him as such because his style of governance is actually in huge favour of them. But Jonathan's style was ironically detrimental to his own SS and the entire South which gave him bloc votes in unison in 2011. This is where the difference lies.

RTSC:
Igbos rather preferred to dominate behind the scenes.
Obasanjo got the presidency in 1999 to placate the south west for the MKO debacle.

And after that it came to the north naturally.
The only time igbos could have gotten the presidency was the one Jonathan got.

And we supported that decision because we are not power hungry and dominated behind the scenes anyway.

Though I guess we are now power hungry given the current events.

The next southern presidential candidate of the pdp, Nigeria's only National Party, is going to be igbo.
That is a fact.

But you can keep writing nonsense.

Igbos preferring to dominate behind the scenes? Then that is no longer domination. It is like saying you prefer to take first position from the rear, thus indirectly saying you prefer to be the least and last. This theory of yours is just to explain away the dwindled political fortunes of the Igbos which majority of Igbos won't even agree with. If Igbos preferred domination from behind the scenes, then why have they kept demanding their fair share of power and appointments at the center even in this APC government which they purport to loath? I guess the center is behind the scenes, right?
The claim that Obasanjo got presidency for the placation of the SW regarding MKO debacle is illogical and self contradictory considering the fact that the Northern Oligarchy which railroaded him to power did so as a reward to him for his anti-June 12 stance and his earlier betrayal of his own Yoruba race to the same North by handing power over to Shagari to spite Awolowo. A genuine placation of Yorubas for MKO debacle would have rather taken the form of every other region supporting the candidacy of Olu Falae the genuine preference of Yorubas.
Igbos' support of the Obasanjo candidacy was in furtherance of their traditional pro-Hausafulani leaning which began from independence by way of the NCNC+NPC coalition which transformed into the NPN-NPP coalition and then to the Hausafulani-Igbo marriage that culminated in PDP creation in 1999.
The Jonathan presidency was more of an accidental event than one gotten by planning or strategy, so your argument that Igbos supported it is quite outlandish.
Again, the presidency which was actually due to Igbos were those of 2003 which was later described by Obasanjo as a gentle man's agreement, and that of Yaradua both of which Igbos were first to endorse both candidates despite they were robbed in both cases. In fact in 1999 Alex Ekweme was already on the path to clinch the PDP ticket but IBB used cash to bulldoze him out of the way for Obasanjo to the applause of Igbos.
The PDP only uses Igbos to do the dirty job of endorsing their Northern and Yoruba candidates.
How come the PDP is a national party yet the candidacy of Jonathan a South-South son angered some of the members so much that they pulled out of it and swelled the ranks of the opposition party to his defeat in that election? The same fate awaits that Igbo man that will emerge as PDP candidate for the first time.

These are the hard truths judging from the past and present events. You can keep deluding yourself with alternate reality.

RTSC:
Everybody will give you a raw deal if you are not smart.
Nobody is here to help you.
Even in international politics,nations get given a raw deal.

Igbos are the only ones that have stood behind the south south.
They are the ones agitating for an ibom port in akwaibom.
They are the only Ones that want the niger delta to control their resources
Go to any forum where resource control is discussed and see if any other ethnic group wants the Niger delta to control their oil apart from the igbos.

The rest of the country sees the south south as a criminal infested region to be milked.
It doesn't cost igbos anything to join the other major ethnics.

Igbos decision to stand behind the SS these days was actually an afterthought prompted by the boomeranging of all their initial sabotage of the SS' efforts towards resource control and even secession. These facts are well documented in the annals of history.
While Igbos were still enjoying relevance in the warm embrace of Hausafulanis, they didn't give a damn about the SS'interest let alone stand by them. This is actually why the SS doesn't seem to be ever enthralled by the idea of solidarity with Igbos.

Mcreloaded:
Take time out to understand the south south very well then you will know that there is no way the south south can join Biafra or join the East for anything political.

The Delta and Edo states for example are more related than you will think.

The Edos are more related to the Yorubas,
Not forgetting also that the south south have different languages in their hundreds unlike the Igbos,Yoruba or Hausas.

Birds of the same feather flock and congregate together

While I agree with you on other assertions here as an Edo person, I disagree with your claim that Edos are more related to Yorubas. The interaction which existed between Edo (specifically Binis only) and Yorubas were political and pre-colonial ones and had nothing to do with blood links. Forget about all these Oduduwa and Ekalderan stories. Edo languages don't share linguistic affinity with Yoruba language. In fact Yoruba Language is linguistically closer to Igbo Language. Edo culture, traditional value system, and other elements of culture are world's apart from those of Yorubas but more identical with those of Urhobos and Isokos.

Blankstare:
The system was bigger than GEJ,there was nothing he could do differently.

Same way the system is bigger than Buhari but he is doing things differently in favour of his people. GEJ was a mistake. No excuse is really tenable for his failure.

RTSC:
We would rather vote a northerner in the pdp over any SW candidate.
That is a fact. You don't represent the south.

Talk from now till tomorrow, a Yoruba candidate can never win the south.
Obasanjo Was The last and only time and his own people didn't vote for him.

Pdp is the only National Party. Slowly regaining state after state.

By 2023, it is going to be a different ball game.

The national party status you credit PDP with is one which doesn't take the SE into relevance except when they lost power at the center and were trying to recapture it. Come to think of it, throughout PDP's 16 year reign in which it had five President-VP tickets, an Igbo man was never included in just one of those tickets. But once the party lost power, an Igbo man was made to feature on the next ticket which was obviously bound to fail. Yet you call that a national party? Are Igbos not part of the nation?

RTSC:
I actually appreciate the precedence buhari has set.

When a proper southerner get to power, we will force him to concentrate development in the SS/SE, based on precedence.
All the rails, seaports and airports that buhari failed to build will be built then.

Jonathan was a mistake that should never have happened.

You made a lot of sense with your last line. But don't you think that the mistake called Jonathan was not really the making of the SS people? It was Obasanjo who handpicked and imposed him on the SS exactly the way the Northern Oligarchy handpicked and imposed him on the Yorubas too in 1999. Jonathan was not the best the SS could produce. He was too dull and frivolous. If the SS people had been given the choice to make themselves, Donald Duke would have been their pick.

BULLIONVAN4:
The likes of you are the problem south is facing today..,continue wallowing in your tribalism and selfishness and see what you will gain from it. Recall what happened in the time of GEJ, when southeners trooped out in great number to vote? we defeated the northeners. who told you that the votes of the east are only 5%? this rubbish is what you have been falsefully publishing to poison the mind of every igbo man making him think that his vote is irrelevant..pls stope this nonsense.COME 2023, IGBOS WILL TROOP OUT IN GREAT NUMBER TO VOTE WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT.

And after Jonathan enjoyed so much Southern unity and got to power courtesy of it, he turned his back on Southern unity and began to lick the arses of the Hausafulani Core North to the detriment of the South and even the middle Belt which joined the South in voting massively for him. He released N500bn through Wike for the building of unsolicited building of Almajiri schools in the Hausafulani Core States while children in Nigeria Delta states schools received classes under trees, ordered the release of N100bn for the establishment of grazing reserves for Fulani Herdsmen but could not order the release of a kobo as incentives to Southern farmers or livestock rearers in the South, he sacked Southerners from positions and replaced them with Hausafulanis...e.g the case of his own brother Owoye Azazi and that of Festus Odumegwu; he never showed any genuine commitment to the call for restructuring aimed at cutting Northerners' hands of the SS oil wealth, he was more given to alcohol, etc.
So do you think that Northerners are our problem in all honesty?

TooMuchStuff:
Yes...cos those are strong Christian zones.

Nearly Zero % Muslims areas. Except Auchi

They most blessed region by God with Sea, Ocean, Oil n gas, brains, technology, beautiful people, Jihadist free and rich cultures

The New Jerusalem of Africa is the SS SE.

You chose to forget that there are indigenous moslems in the Afikpo parts of Ebonyi State and the Nsukka parts of Enugu State all in your SE Region. You also forgot that there are indigenous moslems like Asari Dokubo in Bayelsa State and even some parts of Delta State.

TooMuchStuff:
Yes...cos those are strong Christian zones.

Nearly Zero % Muslims areas. Except Auchi

They most blessed region by God with Sea, Ocean, Oil n gas, brains, technology, beautiful people, Jihadist free and rich cultures

The New Jerusalem of Africa is the SS SE.

You chose to forget that there are indigenous moslems in the Afikpo parts of Ebonyi State and the Nsukka parts of Enugu State. You also forgot that there are indigenous moslems like Asari Dokubo in Bayelsa State and even some parts of Delta State.

OBAGADAFFI:
Sanusi is underfire right now from the government.

This might be part of the strategy.

He deserves whatever befalls him now. Himself was a source of grief to many innocent citizens.

So in addition to the indigenous moslems of Afiko in Ebonyi State we have more in Enugu State, yet the Igbo moniker's on NL would like to create the impression that it is an abomination for an Igbo person to be a moslem?

Yayira:
Smh this market.. I remember that post and person too.. reasons why I have involve God seriously in this business.. that person felt bad because the company’s results as at that time was good and money from right issue was supposed to go a long way but instead the company is looking for ways to raise another money.. weytin dem use the first money do, Amarom !
Na only God go help person for this market..
I almost sent my broker buy mandate at 31 slf..

The lamentation was so compelling back then that I almost dived in at above N31.
The watchword that never fails in this market is "Always be yourself".

Mpeace:
foreign investors dumping since 100BC. I thought they left early last year. When did they re enter the market to start dumping again?

Abeg no take laugh tear person bele o!

One of the reasons why I removed dividend hunting from my investment philosophy is the ugly experiences through which registrars are putting people as being narrated by members here. I don't think I have the energy to be sending mails to registrars, having to go to their office to fill one form and take it to the stockbroker, etc which are steps far more complicated than the initial dividend warrant which one gets sitting in one's house or by just going to the registrar with proof of identity after 6 months of being sent and returned.
The only outstanding dividend I have now is that of CHAMS which came by default. I don't think I will ever bother trying to get it except a miracle happens and it just flies into my bank account.

The whole essence of this e-dividend policy or 'innovation' is defeated.

chillykelly86:
Oga, what's not true in my post? Funny enough, the post you quoted made no mention of EBITDA.

However, for investors to be properly guided on MTN, a company that has been paying chunks of money in fines, its EBITDA is a way of guaging its earnings potentials without the fines.

I am not here to monkey-hunt for MTN, but its important people get a truer picture and then make their decisions.

Disclosure: I have got some units and bidding for more at suitable prices. I am a long term investor.

Congratulations!

fero007:
pls no true SSner sud insult a fellow SSner, I've always admired us for our ability to live together as one people. Yes! u may want to point to few crises here n there but no family is perfect, believe me, n I'm not saying this to bash d oda tribes but i if the wazobia tribes were made to share a region like we SSners deir own fights wud b worse, luk at hw hausa, yoruba n igbo r always at each others throat n dey don't even live close to each other o

The states of the SS, everyone of the six states is unique and though u may say it's a "forced marriage" it's the best combination we cud ask for

From Auchi to Oron, Ogoja to Benin, bini, isoko, ijaw, Ikwerre, annang, warri, yenagoa, ph, uyo we r all one

You might have spoken well, though I don't know which part of SS you are from, your tone and maturity points to either Akwa Ibom or Cross River.
However, due to the anti-Edo sentiments being spread by those of Bayelsa and Rivers State extraction these days, albeit hypocritically, just because Edo people decided to reject the PDP which through the very wicked administration of Lucky Igbinedion milked the state dry for 8 years non-stop, we Edo State people are being forced to regret all our sacrificial and pioneering struggles for the Southern minorities freedom from the crippling clutches of WAZOBIAns.
For the sake of SS solidarity we, in 1999, deliberately voted the dull and less than credible cannabis smoker Lucky Igbinedion of the PDP to the rejection of a more decent Lucky Imasuen of the ANPP who presented a beautiful manifesto that would have made Edo the envy of all other states today.
As if that was not enough, four years later after Lucky Igbinedion and his PDP failed us woefully that Edo began to drag bottom positions with Northern States on educational and economic development statistics tables, we rejected a brilliant Owie of ANPP and reelected Lucky and his PDP again just to flow with the rest SS. But the PDP and Lucky, rather than make amends, became even worse.
Were we therefore wrong to have experimented with another party? These Bayelsans are saying yes to this question, thus we should have stuck to the rapacious gang of the PDP network in Edo State. There is no greater evidence that they don't wish us well, hence the SS objective has been reduced to inanities and therefore no longer worth the attention.

pazienza:
Igbos didn't help Edos get Midwest region. We helped our Igbo Anioma people in western region get Midwestern region.
Midwestern region wasn't about Edo, it was about Ndiigbo in western region, that was why Osadebay and not Osagie, became the first premier of the newly created region.

It was not about Edo only. Midwest was a home of Igbo too, Igbos like Osadebay, Nzeogwu, etc. Stop making it seem to be all about Edo. For all we know, Edos like Enahoro were vehemently against leaving Yorubas to form Midwestern region.

And I guess the Oba Akenzua who created the consciousness and pioneered the motion for the creation of the Midwestern Region was an Anioma person, right?
Midwest was mainly about Edos, and Edoid tribes who formed the overwhelming majority of the region. Aniomas and the rest were secondary. Dennis Osadebey became the Premier not because he was of any spectacular status in the struggle but because he was by default the leader of the dominant NCNC in power over the administrative divisions which were to be pulled out of the Old Western Region to form the Midwest.
In fact the Akoko-Edos and Itsekiris were far more important Midwest minorities than the Aniomas as there was a special provision in the Midwest constiution protecting their interests. But no such for Aniomas.
Enahoro, as a former NCNC member who switched over to AG in protest of the betrayals and dishonesty of the NCNC leadership, never stood in the way of Midwest creation. His stand was that of the AG which was in protest to the hypocrisy of NCNC in trying to instigate their Fulani owned coalition partner, NPC, to split Western Region not out of genuine concern for the Midwest struggle but in a bid to persecute Awolowo while refusing to grant the Eastern minorities their COR Region just like the NPC too was refusing to grant the Northern minorities their Middle Belt Region.
From the results of the plebiscite, the highest percentage votes in favour of creation of the new region came from the Edoid parts and not Igboid ones.

Then to the OP, I don't really know what exactly you wanted to gain with this kind of post which basically ridicules Edo State by seeking for it the status of capital of a political marriage of convenience consummated among strange bedfellows whose opinion or approval was not sought by the Nigerian Government which did the amalgamation just like Lord Luggard did Nigeria's.
If you were really from Edo, you would have known that Edo is not a unity begging state as historically evidenced by our pioneership of the motion for seceesion by our able Anthony Enahoro who was visionary enough to see that Nigeria was a failed experiment from the very 1914 it was created.
All this talk of Ikweres and some Rivers State ethnicities being migrants from Edo must stop because Edo State is as of today is really not interested in anyone not a native of the 18 LGAs which make up the state. We have fought pre-colonial and post colonial battles for Southern minorities and borne the collateral damages alone yet we get insults from the same folks in return. If not for the military prowess and might of the Benin Kingdom whose soldiers halted Usman Dan Fodio's jihad match to the Atlantic coast, these people would have all been islamized even before colonization hence wouldn't have been different from the Fulanis they claim to resent today. We bore the collateral damage of having some few communities islamized in Edo North. But rather than thank us for that sacrifice, they shade us with the presence of moslems in our demography whereas they too have indigenous moslems who willingly changed from Christianity unlike ours who were forcefully proselytized.
We as a state are minding our business and doing our things our own way regardless of the amoeboid classifications called geopolitical regions.
We have never begged for friendship or brotherhood with anyone, not even in the closet neighbor Delta State. All past bonds have become history and the feelings should go with it. Our joy today is that no one can accuse us of reaping their wealth as our crude oil output is more than what we get as federal allocation coupled with the fact that the precious stones deposits in abundance in Edo-North are under the exploitative licenses of WAZOBIAns.

Albert0011:
What's the fuss all about nah...am from Delta state(ukwuani LGA) precisely,if am to give the south south region a political capital then i will give it to PH,my community shares boundary with Edo state (urhonigbe) and they share same political ideologies with South west and more politically inclined to the SW,Benin city or Edo state as a whole is not even supposed to be in SS region not talk of giving them SS political capital.

The SS is not a monocultural region and neither a single political bloc in the real practical sense. In your Delta State the Itsekiris are manifestly Yorubas and they don't deny it. They are politically inclined to the SW because of being naturally Yorubas and due to Awolowo's assistance to them to cannonize their Olu as the prescribed traditional ruler of Warri. The rest Deltans don't even really see your own Ukwani community as real Deltans but as Igbos. Itsay Sagay's recent utterances are all tailored towards pulling you out of Delta to the SE.

BlowBack:
Hardcoreedoman, let us take this your trash into perspective...

Are you basing your Benin as capital of SS Region on which of the following: Political, Economic, Spiritual/Morality or Education?

Lets start with Political.

Is Benin the Political [/b]capital of the SS region and people? The answer is a resounding NO as can be seen with the mere fact that Edo politics for the last 8years has never been in tandem with that of the rest of the SS region and as things stand it will not change anytime soon.

[b]Economic reasons require solid economic facts and inices so this will not be that difficult. Is Benin city the leading city in terms of economic activities in the entire SS region? The answer again is a resounding NO! Whatever little decaying infrastructure you have in Benin was built during the old days of Bendel where Benin city was the capital with monies from Delta streaming in to develop that city. With PH, Warri, Uyo, Calabar, Yenegoa and even Asaba topping your backward city that relies solely on repatriated funds from illicit sex trade and human trafficking.


Spiritual reasons won't hold either as the Oba of Benin remains the Oba of Benin only. His influence and reach may have extended to Asaba and as far as Onistcha to the east and southwards to Warri in the past, but that is all in the distant past! Or how do you expect an Efik man to worship your god-King in this day and age when he never had any influence on the Efik people?

The morality question is also to be considered and from all look of things you are not in the right position o preach morality and ethics to the rest of the SS when you have no problem benefiting from modern-day sex slavery.

What of Education and enlightenment? The Bini man is no longer interested in the pursuit of education. All they want is to go to abroad to engage in petty crimes. When last did you hear of a Bini man or woman being honored for educational achievements? Your guess is as good as mine.

From all this we can simply state that the Binis are in no where qualified to lead the SS in any capacity but rather we see that you are a disgrace to the region.

Of course Edos are not a follow follow people who would for some mudane reasons of blending in politically allow themselves to continue being ruled by the rapacious gang of Anenih, Igbinedion, Ikhimi which constitutes the state's PDP leadership which has been tested but woefully failed the people resulting in everything currently wrong with the state?

The modern sex slavery you talk of was a resort taken to in the face of the state's crippling economy wrought by the mountainous misrule of the same PDP you want them to have stuck to so as to blend with the other SS states. Mind you that even your Bayelsa State has started falling out of line with the political identity you assume for the SS. The recent victory of the APC candidate right inside Jonathan's senatorial district in Bayelsa attests to this, and that will not change anytime soon.

On the WAEC performance statistics, Edo with its third position behind Anambra and Abia has always led all other SS states which hardly make the top seven. Moreover, Edo State has over 11 higher institutions while it took the FG's magnanimity for Bayelsa to have her first university. So on what grounds exactly is Bayelsa educationally ahead of Edo?

On the economic front, Edo is the least in the SS in terms of oil receipts but third in GDP and GDP per Capita hence without oil which is soon to give way to cleaner energy sources, Edo has the potential to lead the region. If Nigeria returns to true federalism, the SS movement birthed on the quest for restructuring will become irrelevant and the whole talk about its capital will die a natural death.



The SS is an artificial creation lumping rather strange bedfellows together. Bayelsa with its numerous shanties and their decision to give Obasanjo bloc votes in 2003 just three years after he massacred innocent women and children in Odi, is the disgrace to the SS. No SS state will vote for a presidential candidate who ordered their massacre.

pazienza:
I don't know the meaning of this.
But I know that if not for the Igbo led NCNC government, ably represented Igbos like Dennis Osadebay and Azikiwe, they wouldn't have been Midwestern region.

You overexaggerated Edo role in the Midwestern struggle, while diminishing and even presenting Igbos as villains.
You have always been dishonest, so I'm not surprised.

See who Is accusing me of dishonesty? If the Igbo controlled NCNC was that magnanimous to have helped Edo get the Midwest Region as you would have us believe, then why couldn't they extend the magnanimity to their closer relatives (the Eastern minorities) to achieve the COR Region which they too were asking for at the same period? I thought they say charity begins from home? You think there is any kind of dishonesty greater than a claim which implicitly indicts the claimant of not beginning his charity from home? Commedian!

If Edo State people's preference for APC as a result of PDP's monumental failure in the state makes them the Yorubas and Fulanis of the SS, then what do we say of the Ijaws whom every other Southern Nigerians refer to as the Fulanis of the South owing to their penchant for uncontrolled migration and struggle with others over lands?
Aren't you Bayelsans part of the old Rivers State which preferred the Fulani owned NRC hence oddly voted massively for Tofa a fulani man at a time most other Southern States dominated by SDP were irritated over the North's strangehold on power and therefore resolved to have a Southerner have it in the person of MKO? Who, in the entire South let alone Edo, begrudged you Riverians and Bayelsans for that off choice which ran against those of other SS states of today like Edo, Delta, Akwa Ibom and Cross River? Wasn't it partly due to you present day Bayelsans' preference and love for Hausafulani headed federal government of Balewa that you declared secession from of Nigeria seeing that your darling but despotic Balewa had been slain? While every other Southern state had representatives in NADECO which fought the Hausafulani militaristic Oligarchy to relinquish political power to the South, you Bayelsans and Riverians had no member in the group because you were wining and dining with the Hausafulani Generals in power while the struggle lasted.
No state of the SS had been as treacherous as you people of Old Rivers State.
What about Jonathan your fellow Bayelsan who abandoned the SS Question and in pursuit of a non-existent one-Nigeria wasted funds building unsolicited Almajiri schools for the same Fulanis at the expense of his own SS people's wealth? No president from any of the four other SS states would be that treacherous.
Did anyone on account of that referred to you as the Fulanis of the South?
Even in both the first and second Republics, your political alliances always gravitated towards the Hausafulani controlled NPC and NPN respectively. Who labelled you Bayelsans and Riverians the fulanis of the South for those political betrayals of the South? I don't know how you comfortably forgot that your beloved PDP was a metamorphosis of the PDM owned and controlled by the fulani dominated Katsina Mafia. Hasn't the APC today won in Bayelsa the very senatorial seat of the constituency of the very Jonathan around whose 2015
defeat your sudden and overnight hatred for your hitherto darling Fulanis is built?
Aren't all of your sister Rivers State's Senatorial seats currently in the kitty of the broom party despite the claim that PDP is Rivers and Rivers is PDP?
When it mattered most, And the South-South solidarity became an issue of action over words, only the Governor of Edo State, Oshiomhole from the opposition party, was bold and daring enough to stand by Jonathan over his rather unpopular and wrongly timed policy of subsidy removal. At the risk of being accused of anti-party activities, Oshiomhole and Edos openly sided with Jonathan against an overwhelming majority just for SS solidarity. Ironically the other five SS governors from Jonathan's own PDP could not stand the ignominy of siding with Jonathan a supposed brother over such unpopular policy. They all chickened into their shells while Oshiomhole put his hard earned credibility on the line for Jonathan who, in his treacherous attitude, later plotted to impeach Oshiomhole, and you think Edos should have stuck to PDP all the same? Oshiomhole was initially a toast as most Nigerians saw him as an ideal presidential candidate in his NLC days. But he has become a hard sell today partly due to his open support for an unpopular policy of a treacherous Bayelsan in the name of solidarity for a region for which Edos have sacrificed so much but are getting insults and abuses from some thankless fellows across the Niger.

Do you just speak out of emotions of the moment without a deep reflection on the issues in a holistic manner?
Let me pause here first and await your response.

BlowBack:
[s][/s]

Igbos have suffered in Nigeria all because they lost a war of independence.

Imagine this nonetity of a being deginerating Ibos when his own people are by far the most lazy delinquents south of the Niger.

Never ever in your life think that by degenerating Ibos you will some how find unity among Niger Deltans.

I am a Niger Deltan and I can state categorically that you Binis are a big disgrace to the region.

Hell, even you don't even share same political views with us as can be seen with your prefered broom party.

Edo state is filled with Zombies
Poverty, crime and all vices are your trade marks.

You suffer the ignoble roles as being both the Yorubas (treacherous bastards) and fulani (criminals) of the SS people.

I just stumbled upon this thread to see your outrightly amusing vituperations against Edo State.
I think we at this point need to tell ourselves some uncomfortable truth about this marriage of convenience called South-South. For the sake of fostering brotherhood, Edos have never used these ugly truths against the other SS people especially those from the present Rivers and Bayelsa which I logically guess is your state of origin. But there is no use pretending now, hence I have to lay it bare before you.
Let me start by making it abundantly clear that the people now collectively referred to as Edo State have been a unique people before and after colonization. They also, as attested to by cultural historians and experts, are a people richly blessed with intellectual resourcefulness and commitment to ideals of any struggle in which they find themselves. These are borne out by numerous Edo-first records like; an Edo man being the first to move motion for independence, the same Edo man also being the first mover of the motion for seceesion clause which if had been allowed would have been a very powerful check on the misgovernance we are all reeling from today, Edo State being home to the first polytechnic in the country, the first private university in the country, the first state owned university in the country, the first private airline owned by a Nigerian anywhere in the world, the cradle and home of the pioneership of the struggle for the emancipation of minorities from WAZOBIA strangehold....a movement which gave birth to the SS identity of today; etc. That consciousness of their uniqueness is deeply ingrained in them so much that they have a hard time trying to follow the crowd just for the purpose of political correctness especially when the crowd is totally wrong.

In case you are not aware, the first ever SS governors meeting, tagged a handshake across the Niger, was held in Benin City as a mark of honour for Edo State in acknowledgedment of the pioneering role played by Oba Akenzua in freeing Southern minorities from the clutches of Yorubas and Igbos. Edo in the form of Midwest was able to extricate itself from Yoruba domination while you Eastern minorities could do practically nothing to free yourselves from Igbo domination in the Eastern Region. So if we are talking of superiority in the strange marriage called SS, do you think you a Bayelsan should be anywhere comparable with Edo? But have you ever heard any Edo person ridicule any Eastern minority tribe with this ugly truth about them?

Thirdly, to Edo people, the SS identity is to some extent a subsumption and dilution of their unique identity and glowing records with those of others who had no defined political identity for a long time until very recently. But we choose to accept the SS grouping for the sole purpose that its objective ultimately broadens the scope of Oba Akenzua's Western Minorities struggle. So don't think Edo gives priority to being SS over being just their unique selves as before colonization. [b]Though I put the blame of this nonsense here on the OP who brought Edo so low to be seeking capital of a strange bedfellows region which to a large extent is an erosion on the uniqueness of Edo.
Based on the foregoing, it is therefore ridiculous and very irritating that the SS identity which began as a new dimension in the struggle for Southern minorities extrication in the sense of seeking a return to 75% resource control as it obtained when Hausafulanis, Yorubas and Igbos owned and controlled their groundnut pyramids, Cocoa and oil palm respectively; has now been reduced by you to a mere voting pattern affair.
So, going by your rather poorly made opinion, Edo must stick to PDP so as to qualify for SS membership even at the risk of misgovernance which Edo State chapter of the PDP is notorious for? I wish you had the likes of Tony Anenih, Gabriel Igbinedion, and other heartless Edo PDP chieftains as leaders of PDP in your Bayelsa State so you understand on first hand basis why Edo people did away with PDP after 8 years of experimenting with them. There is no controversy about the fact that Lucky Igbinedion of Edo State remains the worst of all the 36 governors that reigned from 1999 to 2007. Bad as his closest brother governor, Ibori, was, he was thousand times better than Lucky Igbinedion. At least Ibori built schools, roads, homes, etc for Deltans amidst his looting. But lucky's looting was so 100% pure that the resultant frustration in the land led to a massive increase in the state of human trafficking for prostitution in Italy as you rightly observed but wrongly ascribed to an imbred culture. Lucky Igbenedion's PDP government constructed not even a meter of road anywhere in Edo State but looted the state blind to invest in his father's businesses all over Africa. When Edos claim that Lucky did nothing in the state in his eight years, do you think it is an exaggeration? Tony Anenih, another Edo PDP chieftain and Works/Housing minister got over N6bn three different budget years for the Benin Lagos Road, but all of it went into his pocket and Edos paid the price bitterly. It was so bad in Edo State under PDP that while other SS states were always in the news for one project or the other being undertaken by their governors, what made news from Edo State were stuffs like "Anenih and Lucky Igbinedion snub each other at a public event", "A child who fails an exam should repeat that class", etc.
How many would one mention? Which other SS state was so unlucky to be home to such a collection of evil men as PDP leaders in Edo State? Yet you want Edo to have foolishly, stupidly and blindly stuck to PDP with such characters in charge of the party? You think we are cursed?

BlowBack:
[s][/s]

Igbos have suffered in Nigeria all because they lost a war of independence.

Imagine this nonetity of a being deginerating Ibos when his own people are by far the most lazy delinquents south of the Niger.

Never ever in your life think that by degenerating Ibos you will some how find unity among Niger Deltans.

I am a Niger Deltan and I can state categorically that you Binis are a big disgrace to the region.

Hell, even you don't even share same political views with us as can be seen with your prefered broom party.

Edo state is filled with Zombies
Poverty, crime and all vices are your trade marks.

You suffer the ignoble roles as being both the Yorubas (treacherous bastards) and fulani (criminals) of the SS people.

I just stumbled upon this thread to see your outrightly amusing vituperations against Edo State.
I think we at this point need to tell ourselves some uncomfortable truth about this marriage of convenience called South-South. For the sake of fostering brotherhood, Edos have never used these ugly truths against the other SS people especially those from the present Rivers and Bayelsa which I logically guess is your state of origin. But there is no use pretending now, hence I have to lay it bare before you.
Let me start by making it abundantly clear that the people now collectively referred to as Edo State have been a unique people before and after colonization. They also, as attested to by cultural historians and experts, are a people richly blessed with intellectual resourcefulness and commitment to ideals of any struggle in which they find themselves. These are borne out by numerous Edo-first records like; an Edo man being the first to move motion for independence, the same Edo man also being the first mover of the motion for seceesion clause which if had been allowed would have been a very powerful check on the misgovernance we are all reeling from today, Edo State being home to the first polytechnic in the country, the first private university in the country, the first state owned university in the country, the first private airline owned by a Nigerian anywhere in the world, the cradle and home of the pioneership of the struggle for the emancipation of minorities from WAZOBIA strangehold....a movement which gave birth to the SS identity of today; etc. That consciousness of their uniqueness is deeply ingrained in them so much that they have a hard time trying to follow the crowd just for the purpose of political correctness especially when the crowd is totally wrong.

In case you are not aware, the first ever SS governors meeting, tagged a handshake across the Niger, was held in Benin City as a mark of honour for Edo State in acknowledgedment of the pioneering role played by Oba Akenzua in freeing Southern minorities from the clutches of Yorubas and Igbos. Edo in the form of Midwest was able to extricate itself from Yoruba domination while you Eastern minorities could do practically nothing to free yourselves from Igbo domination in the Eastern Region. So if we are talking of superiority in the strange marriage called SS, do you think you a Bayelsan should be anywhere comparable with Edo? But have you ever heard any Edo person ridicule any Eastern minority tribe with this ugly truth about them?

Thirdly, to Edo people, the SS identity is to some extent a subsumption and dilution of their unique identity and glowing records with those of others who had no defined political identity for a long time until very recently. But we choose to accept the SS grouping for the sole purpose that its objective ultimately broadens the scope of Oba Akenzua's Western Minorities struggle. So don't think Edo gives priority to being SS over being just their unique selves as before colonization. Based on the foregoing, it is therefore ridiculous and very irritating that the SS identity which began as a new dimension in the struggle for Southern minorities extrication in the sense of seeking a return to 75% resource control as it obtained when Hausafulanis, Yorubas and Igbos owned and controlled their groundnut pyramids, Cocoa and oil palm respectively; has now been reduced by you to a mere voting pattern affair.
So, going by your rather poorly made opinion, Edo must stick to PDP so as to qualify for SS membership even at the risk of misgovernance which Edo State chapter of the PDP is notorious for? I wish you had the likes of Tony Anenih, Gabriel Igbinedion, and other heartless Edo PDP chieftains as leaders of PDP in your Bayelsa State so you understand on first hand basis why Edo people did away with PDP after 8 years of experimenting with them. There is no controversy about the fact that Lucky Igbinedion of Edo State remains the worst of all the 36 governors that reigned from 1999 to 2007. Bad as his closest brother governor, Ibori, was, he was thousand times better than Lucky Igbinedion. At least Ibori built schools, roads, homes, etc for Deltans amidst his looting. But lucky's looting was so 100% pure that the resultant frustration in the land led to a massive increase in the state of human trafficking for prostitution in Italy as you rightly observed but wrongly ascribed to an imbred culture. Lucky Igbenedion's PDP government constructed not even a meter of road anywhere in Edo State but looted the state blind to invest in his father's businesses all over Africa. When Edos claim that Lucky did nothing in the state in his eight years, do you think it is an exaggeration? Under PDP years from 1999 to 2007, Edo State was struggling with Northern States for the bottom of GDP statistics tables, but just within 8 years of APC rule, the state has risen to 4th position on the GDP per Capita table beating your own Bayelsa silly.
Tony Anenih, another Edo PDP chieftain and Works/Housing minister got over N6bn three different budget years for the Benin Lagos Road, but all of it went into his pocket and Edos paid the price bitterly. It was so bad in Edo State under PDP that while other SS states were always in the news for one project or the other being undertaken by their governors, what made news from Edo State were stuffs like "Anenih and Lucky Igbinedion snub each other at a public event", "A child who fails an exam should repeat that class", etc.
How many would one mention? Which other SS state was so unlucky to be home to such a collection of evil men as PDP leaders in Edo State? Yet you want Edo to have foolishly, stupidly and blindly stuck to PDP with such characters in charge of the party? You think we are cursed? Isn't this weird expectation of yours an evidence that you are actually guilty of the zombiism you try to accuse Edo people of? Your state of Bayelsa is the lowest among the SS on the GDP per Capita table despite the huge oil revenues you collect. As long as GDP/Capita is the measure of overall wealth of societies, isn't it therefore a display of ignorance on your part to claim that Edo with it's 4th position is poorer than Bayelsa with it's 20th position? How much does Edo get from oil compared with Bayelsa yet Edo is ahead clearly on that table and would have been number one if not for the 8 year monumental misrule of the state by your beloved but Hausafulanis founded PDP?

robobo:
My Oga u dey fall my hand oooooo

why are you bothering ursef whether there is panic creation?

im even disappointed in those creating the panic that they are not doing enough

they shld do more by letting us get to 20% div yield quickly. zenith at 19.05 / UBA at 5.70/ GTB at 31 is still very far from this target (20% div yield) so i am disappointed that it is taking them centuries to achieve this little milestone.

They shld do quick biko. they shld push d prices of these counters to 20% div yield. then we can start talking if there is panic creation or not as at this junction they have not done enough at all.

Savagery!
Deadly grave robber!

rebekah2011:
Getting those stocks at such prices should excite anyone. If the managers of the economy like, make them scatter everything. We will be here.

Thanks. The more they scatter it the merrier for me on the NSE as I will get good stocks at cheap prices.

Breaking
SEC Probes MTN Listing on Stock Exchange




•Shareholders rake in N6.1bn in one day as induced scarcity continues

Obinna Chima and Goddy Egene

The Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) is investigating the process that led to the listing of MTN Nigeria on the Nigerian Stock Exchange (NSE) last Thursday, THISDAY learnt yesterday.
A source said the application of the telecom firm was initially turned down by the NSE Council before it was later reconsidered, without the authorisation of SEC.


The disclosure came on the heels of an earlier THISDAY report that investors on the NSE and stakeholders waiting to purchase the shares of MTN Nigeria Communications Plc, through an initial public offering (IPO), might do so at a very high premium whenever the telco decides to float the IPO.

This was because of the free float accommodation and some other waivers MTN Nigeria was granted by the capital market regulators to pave the way for its listing last Thursday.
The source spoke amid allegations of unapproved waivers that the NSE granted MTN Nigeria to enable it to be listed on the stock exchange.

The source said: “The application was turned down when MTN brought it to the council due to grey areas and requests for certain waivers made by the company.”
According to the source, the investigation will cover all aspects of the listing, the share crossing, the activities of the preference shares, all the transactions on MTN Nigeria shares so far and the entire listing to see if it is in compliance with the listing rules.

“I can assure you that SEC will conclude this investigation as soon as possible.”
Meanwhile, the shares of MTN continued on the upswing, chalking up 9.9 per cent or N10.85 to close at N119.75. This showed that the stock has gained 33 per cent in three days of its listing on the NSE.

Investors yesterday traded 51.406 million shares of the stock valued at N6.155 billion in 61 deals.
THISDAY gathered that there was induced scarcity of the listed MTN shares in order to drive up the value.
Analysts had told THISDAY that the intention of the pent-up demand on MTN Nigeria’s shares was to drive the price of the stock very high before any share offering through an Initial Public Offering (IPO).

In addition, an analyst had said the IPO might take a longer time to come, as the MTN was said to be hiding under the alleged $2 billion tax liabilities the Office of the Attorney General (AGF) imposed on it, instead of the Federal Inland Revenue Service( FIRS), to delay the public share offering.

But a source from one of the leading stockbroking firms, who also pleaded to remain anonymous, defended MTN Nigeria, saying its Listing of Introduction on the NSE was similar to what Notore did.
“Notore did a listing by introduction similar to MTN Nigeria. The special waiver for MTN Nigeria went through proper regulatory practice, which was approved by the SEC and the NSE.

“For Listing by Introduction, you are not obliged to make shares available to the market to buy at all. For Listing by Introduction, shareholders that were existing prior to the company being listed have the opportunity to trade their share.
“So, if you are not a shareholder of MTN Nigeria prior to the listing, you will not be able to sell any share. You only buy from willing sellers in the market,” the source added.

On the NSE Listing Rule 2.2.4b, which states that, ”the value of its free float shares is equal to or above N40 billion on the date the exchange receives its application to list,” the source said: “the tradable value on the first day doesn’t have to be N40 billion. Like I mentioned to you, Notore listed and did not trade N40 billion on the first day. So, it is not compulsory that you have to trade N40 billion.

“On the day Notore listed, only one million shares were traded on that day at N62.50 per share.”
She argued that there was no basis to compare MTN Nigeria to Dangote Cement, saying what the cement company did was an offer for sale, whereby on the listing day, the majority shareholder, which was Dangote Industries Limited, offered some of its shares to willing investors to buy.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2019/05/21/sec-probes-mtn-listing-on-stock-exchange/%3famp

jideflash:
Oh boy it was an interesting experience. Unfortunately i came 4th out of 5 nominees in the election of Audit committee members, with the top three selected.
Nothing really new were disclosed today at the AGM even though some strong questions were asked by some Shareholders.
About the Caverton / Osibanjo incident, the Chairman said they cant discuss on the matter as AIB is still investigating. I believe this accident report will be a determiner on Insurance claim or maintenance cost.

Then, there was abit of unruly behavior by hungry shareholders who were majority in attendance, over the sharing of Gift bags. There was so much shouting and pushing, at a time it was like a stampede sef. I totally agree with SEC on the ban of Gift sharing at AGMs. This gifts only attract shameless fellows who careless about the company (as they dont own tangible units of shares) and neither do they contribute meaningful questions and suggestions. They want the AGM end so fast (without grilling the management and board), so they can get the gifts and go to the next event.

Na so one of them come meet me, said; sorry i didnt win the vote, but i should buy him recharge card, and whenever i want to run again, he will help me organise people to vote for me at a fee. He also said he came from Ondo for the AGMs. So basically, it has turn to some Inec vote buying thing.

What is his headache about your possible desire to run for the post again? Does he himself forbid running for the post? So he doesn't care what your antecedents are but will just support you as long as you buy him recharge card and are ready to pay his recruits as well? People like him are the problem of this country. Such a person would easily accept N5,000 from a politician to go and snatch ballot boxes at gun point. This is one of the most major reasons why shareholders associations don't appeal to me. It is not about principles and the genuine pursuit of the shareholders' general interest at all.