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schoolboij:
Show me a video of his son accusing him. Use your brain next time before listening to media rumors. Obasanjo will never respond to infantile rumors.

You are just being evasive and self deluded. It wasn't a petty rumour but published in the papers and his son's picture clearly shown.
Here is Obasanjo's son accusing him of sleeping with his wife.

http://saharareporters.com/2008/01/13/my-father-made-love-my-wife-%E2%80%94gbenga-obasanjo

Read it and use your brain and head.

kingzizzy:
Many other countries like South Korea, Malaysia, Indonesia and even Ghana all had military coups. They have all moved ahead of Nigeria

Stop blaming Nzeogwu for a coup that happend over 50 years ago. If your country was a serious country, that is enough time to make progress

Was there ever coup in the US, Germany, Canada, UK, Russia, and other world powers which we, at independence, purposed ourselves to become like?

cosef:
He was the quater-master general of the federation, he kept the guns, armaments and amouries for the whole of the federation , taking him out cannot be collateral damage. Go and read Ademoyega's book- Why we struck.

He wasn't among those targeted to be killed at the planning stage hence his death wasn't important.
Which Igbo politician was killed?

seunmsg:
In fairness to Nzeogwu, he was not responsible for the one sided killings. He was based in the North and executed the coup as planned. Again, we must all understand that Nzeogwu wasn’t the overall leader of the mutineers. Ifeajuna was. Ifeajuna, Okafor and other plotters in Lagos and eastern region were responsible for the one sided killings. They deliberately allowed all the Igbo targets like Azikiwe, Agunyi Ironsi, Micheal Opara, etc to get away unhurt while they killed other non Igbo targets successfully.

Nzeogwu became popular because he succeeded in the north. The coup failed in Lagos and Eastern region because of the clumsiness of Ifeajuna, Okafor and other bigoted Igbo plotters.

Clannishness rather.

9jaRealist:
BTW, funny how you proclaim that Ademoyega who actually was an active participant in the events is "lying"...
While you who likely wasn't yet born (like most of us) during those events know the "truth"! Guess 'history' means only what you agree with.
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I quite agree with the guy you quoted. If you critically examine Adegboyega's claims in that book, you can't but notice the logical self contradictions and inconsistencies which actually give him away as trying to rationalize an ethnic cleansing which was presented as a nationalistic project to him.

schoolboij:
Leprous Aboki. You saw him sleeping with his daughter in-law.

It was his son Gbenga that so accused him and he never denied it. I guess you now know him more than his own biological son?

selemempe:
i am no fan of the idiot....but the truth is his coup was done to benefit awolowo. Dont forget he was from western region b4 1964. He benefitted from awolowo's free education and believed in awolowo's ideas. He was only igbo by blood. He was hausa by orientation and a westerner by politics...his coup was directly targeted at leaders who had a hand in the travails of awolowo...thats why it seemed he spared igbo leaders...not really...he killed some

Which Igbo leaders did he kill? Care mentioning them?

femarse:
because you don't read enough or understand well , who did u want him to kill from his own side mention them
all bigot that occupy power were northerner , so if things are going wrong is the people without power he will kill ?
aguyi ironsi escape and later become the greater beneficiary of the coup
ifeajuna tip the president of the intending coup , that one travel out of the country and even thou nig has a visitor towards the coup , the man refuse to come home
okotie was killed cos he was part of the corruption
every other person killed was part of the giant corruption and they were all Northerner , they have successfully suppressed every other opposition, like jailing awolowo for treason and preventing any southerner near power except u are among them
so who in the south did u want him to kill ?

Why didn't Ifeajuna stop over in Benin City on his way to Enugu that afternoon and kill Dennis Osadebey? Was Dennis too hosting an official visitor from Europe?
Why did the coup plotters go ahead with the execution of the coup despite being fully aware that their main target -Azikiwe, as later disclosed by Nzeogwu, had escaped from the country?
Why didn't the other junior officers in the plot kill Ironsi when they later found him at a junction at about 4:30 am on his way to quell the coup that morning?
If it was the mere visit of the foreigner from Cyprus that prevented Ifeajuna from killing Okpara, then why did Ifeajuna go into the premier's lodge in Enugu to have a tete a tete with Okpara who later assisted him in seeking assylum to Ghana where he escaped to?

cosef:
Col. Unegbe was a top Igbo military leader and was killed too. Always say the truth.

Unegbe was not a political leader. Moreover his death was rather a collateral damage as he was not among the figures targeted at the planning stage hit list.

Odingo1:
Kaduna the brutal one

Those close to him said that he can only speak Hausa as a local language.

The coup is an opportunity for north to take back Nigeria from the hand of Igbo domination.That is why they quickly tag it Igbo coup whereas the coup plotter can’t speak Igbo nor have he lived in Igboland.

The coup was tagged Igbo coup because of the pattern of killings in the execution which left the political leaders of other regions dead while those of Igbo origin all escaped unhurt.

Cantonese:
Obasanjo, the man who truly cherishes friendship. Never forgets his very good friends and their children. Has always remembered and taken care of the family of Major Nzeogwu. He is that detribalised Nigerian we refer to.

A few years ago during his presidency he stood in as the father of his friend's daughter at her wedding. The lady's father just before he passed away ask OBJ to do him that favour. He made it and the lady was very pleased.

Lesson to be learnt. Good relationships will always give you peace and move you forward.

The biggest fraud in politics is to credit a Nigerian politician with detribalization.
A 'detribalized' Obasanjo ordered soldiers to kill and maim innocent civilians in Odi and Zakibiam for alleged security threat but couldn't repeat same when the same security threat scenario later played out in Shagamu and Ota both in his home state of Ogun. You people just love to cheaply shower these useless Nigerian leaders with undeserved accolades.

delamb01:
Nzeogwu was a patriotic Nigerian who wanted to save his beloved nation from the hands of chauvinist politicians. But as things didn't go as planned he was betrayed and by same people that he planned the coup with notable amongst them was Major H. U. Katsina. Till today I am yet to see a leader that believe in ONE NIGERIA as Nzeogwu did. I still love him despite the fact that history and historians have not been fair to him.

The bolded is a pure revisionist tale. Without prejudice to the fact that the coup was totally wrong in principle and dubious in execution, Nzeogwu himself confessed that the person who betrayed him hence sabotaged the objective of the coup was Ifeajuna. He granted an interview in which he made this clear and he never mentioned Major H.U. Katsina who ironically was never part of the plot.
Why do you Igbos so much love revisionism?

lonelydora:
In terms of security

Care throwing more light on this rather bogus claim of yours?

LLobiorah:
1000 conversions!
We hear you.

Thousands I said, and that is the truth.

LLobiorah:
I should agree to the 1000 conversion your imagination constructs?
Is you ok?

Are you kidding yourself? Keep denying the massive phenomenon you see around you. If your denial were valid, one would have expected Islam not to have grown up to this level in Igbo land despite it was introduced by one person.

LLobiorah:
Thousands of reported cases, in your deluded imagination abi?
Keep seeing what's not physical.

Keep denying a truth kissing you in the face in your delusional mind.

LLobiorah:
Natural indeed!!
Keep deluding yourself.

You can't deny the evidences any longer. Can you?

LLobiorah:
If these few persons conversion is growth to you, I am done with this discussion

Apart from the fact that I made it clear that they are just few examples among thousands of reported cases let alone the unreported ones, the fact that it is only in Igbo land that Christians are willingly adopting Islam is an evidence of the unhindered growth of the religion in the SE. How many reports of Christians' conversion to Islam in other parts of the country have you ever read? Even in the North, it is news of Moslems embracing Christianity.

The spectacular feature of the growth of Islam in Igbo land is that it is being adopted freely by Igbos unlike in all other parts of Nigeria where it was violently imposed on them against their will through conquest.
It all shows that Igbos are actually the natural moslems.

LLobiorah:
Growing indeed!!
And we just heard of it in 2018!
And a larger percent of ebonyians and indeed some Afikpo folks dunno about it!
And till date, no massive proselytizing and abandoning of the Christian faith by the ebonyians due to their growth, according to you.

Note this, existence is not growth!

Living in delusion is bad!

It started from Ebonyi and later spread to Enugu yet you are denying its growth and proselytizing. Living in delusional denial is worse.

The proselytization is real and massive. Here are some instances among thousands. Happy reading:

https://www.informationng.com/2018/01/young-igbo-siblings-dump-christianity-convert-to-islam-in-imo-state-photos.html


https://www..ng/news/igbo-woman-converts-islam-photos

https://www.legit.ng/858153-wow-young-igbo-lady-converts-islam-happens.html

https://www.nairaland.com/2345221/photo-igbo-girl-converts-muslim

http://www.nigerianmonitor.com/igbo-woman-converts-to-islam-says-its-the-best-religion-photos/



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMKoS5DxFMQ

LLobiorah:
Nobody is gonna close it nor ban it, the constitution gives room for that. But their immense growth, as dudes like you always imagine it would happen, would only remain a figment of that imagination and dreams.

The reality check would keep dawning on you!

In a botanical garden, whatever is not growing is dying, and whatever is not dying is growing. There is never stagnation. It is either growing or dying.
Likewise, in the garden of humanity, whatever phenomenon is not dying is actually growing regardless of how stagnant it might appear to be.
As long as the Islam introduced into Igbo land in 1958 has not died since then, then it is definitely growing.

LLobiorah:
Allowed yes! But on a larger scale, oga is a No! Since there years of existence, we only got to know they do exist by 2018. A larger percentage of ebonyians, don't even know they exist.

That's to prove to you, they ain't growing, a redundant sch that have not been able to convert the Afikpo area or have a large percentage of her students from ebonyi, is that one a sch

Dude! Leave long talk, nobody sends that sch, and whatever claims they are having, my brother if you go to that sch... You go shake your head, waka comot!

Until you people close that school and ban Islam in Afikpo, all these denials from you will remain in the realm of mere denial.

LLobiorah:
Keep living in your delusion! That dream of starting whatever abracadabra would not see the light of the day. That nwagui of a nobody was yapping rubbish.

Lol! So who would attend the schools? The Afikpos, ebonyians or the south eastern folks who are mainly Christians? Oh!! I'm sure you would think, outsiders from far and near would even dream of supporting this unrealistic dream in a region that detests anything Islam? Even if they do, would the generality of Igbo Christians allow that? If they vehemently rejected whatever 'ruga or herdsmen settlement', in the east based on fulanization and islamization, do you think they would indeed approve that man to site such in Afikpo?

The Christian Afikpo and ebonyi people won't even give a room for that, how much more the entire Igbo ethnic group. Dude think twice before you post to buttress your points.

If Ebonyi Christians and the SE generality will not allow the proposed Islamic university, then how come they allowed the
Islamic primary and secondary schools which had been run there for ages as revealed by the Igbo Sheikh who spoke in the story?

LLobiorah:
Indigenous indeed!
That few insignificant lot, that there few hundreds have dwindled to how many are the growing population of ebonyi Muslims?
The same news for how many years or months now. You are not serious.

If their number is as insignificant as you try to portray, then how come the biggest Islamic university in Africa is billed to be sited in Afikpo areas of Ebonyi State?

Igboland to get Islamic University (to be located in Afikpo, Ebonyi State) •Boasts the best Islamic secondary school in Nigeria
By News Express on 14/04/2014
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Unknown to most people in religiously divided Nigeria, the best Islamic secondary school in the country is not located in the Muslim-dominated North but in the largely Christian South-East, specifically in Afikpo, Ebonyi State.
Now there are plans to turn the school, known as Islamic Centre, Afikpo, into an Islamic University. This was disclosed by Sheikh Daud Nwagui, the Headmaster of the primary section of the school, who told the Daily Trust newspaper: “We hope to turn the school into a university, that is a university of Islamic studies. There is no school like this in the whole of the South-East.”
The hilly Afikpo town boasts the highest number of Igbo Muslims in the South-East, followed by the university town of Nsukka in neighbouring Enugu State. The Islamic Centre, Afikpo, was founded by Sheikh Ibrahim Okpani Nwagui, the father of the present headmaster, who brought Islam to Afikpo in 1958.
According to Sheikh Daud Nwagui, his late father embraced Islam in Senegal and promptly introduced the religion to his people when he returned to Nigeria in 1958.
“From that time a lot of people in the vicinity were turning to Islam. He was a very sincere person, and he was like this till his very last days. He was the founder of the Islamic Centre, Afikpo,” he said, adding: “This centre was set up in 1965 to propagate Islam generally. This is the best Islamic secondary school in the nation, and students come from all over the country, including Abuja..........

Read more @ https://www.newsexpressngr.com/news/5362-Igboland-to-get-Islamic-University-to-be-located-in-Afikpo-Ebonyi-State-Boasts-the-best-Islamic-secondary-school-in-Nigeria?pr=54286&lang=en

EagleNest:
Nigeria will continue to struggle until the citizens does the needful. Below is ten things I think Nigeria needs to do to normalise itself back to reckoning as Africa Super Power.

1. Restructure Nigeria to pre 1966 structure or even a finer one, to allow each major ethnic blocks or groups stronger control of itself while the center controls national security etc

2. Start to enforce the law regardless of anyone's status. It is one of the most important.

3. Promote an image of a new Nigeria that we want to be seen as, just like Rwanda is doing, and sustain it.

4. Enforce accountability and zero tolerance to corruption at any level, and blaze the trail.

5. Stop govt sponsorship of religious prigmages. It should be a private affair and remain so. I don't like when govt openly sponsors prigmages. Why?

6. Start massive breathtaking infrastructure development in Nigeria and encourage regions to compete. Enforce orderliness in development.

7. Push for huge Agricultural development towards self food sustenance. Each region to contribute immensely

8. Push for massive industrialization driven by private sector towards made in Nigeria products with competitive quality.

9. Take Education to practical and unprecedented level, driving research and development to great stage unseen in Africa. Emphasis on artificial intelligence to be harnessed.

10. Professionalise the military, police, customs, immigration and civil servants with massive purge of the bad ones.

If we do all these, believe you me, other things will fall in place.

Doing the first item on your list will automatically bring about all the other nine.

Seek ye first restructuring and every other thing will begin to fall into place on their own.

For example, if we return to the pre May 24 1966 structure when each region sourced for her own revenue, no region or state will waste hard earned revenue on an economically wasteful venture like pilgrimage sponsorhip. Availability of free unerned funds is the reason why all the problems you see persist.

LLobiorah:
Who tell you say Ebonyi get large indigenous muslim population?
See wetin NairaLand guys dy cause!

It is a fact you cannot deny.
https://tribuneonlineng.com/167360/

There are even indegenous moslems in Enugu State as well. Here is a link.
https://dailypost.ng/2017/09/19/enugu-mosque-fire-ogrute-muslim-community-economical-truth-ipob-concerned-residents/

Note where it says:
"Those who are Muslims here are our brothers. They are indigenes who have been using that mosque for decades...."

pazienza:
There is no complexity any where in Biafra, complexities only exist in Nigeria.

Edo is not SS, it was put there for administrative convenience, the state geographically, religiously and Culturally is more of SW than SS.

There are no Muslims in SS, it's only in Arewa-Oduanistan which Edo is part of that Muslims co exist with Christians, they are meant for each other.

Those in Rivers are not part of your concern, we still have people from those parts of Igboland that do attend Ohanaeze meetings, bonds of brotherhood are not that easy to break, we will mend the rift and make our unity stronger, the way Biafra will be structured will ensure that.

As for Akwa-ibom, I am sorry for you if you think they will side Nigeria over Biafra, after Nigeria used their land Bakassi as a gift to Cameroun just to win the war and claim Eastern region oil wealth, they have seen Nigeria for what it is. Moreover there has always been a strong bond between Ndiigbo and people from that axis of Eastern region, when the time comes, we will put to test via referendum, I don't see them choosing an Islamic republic of Arewa-Oduanistan over a Christian Biafra.

The Ijaw communities are not in Ondo, they were carved into Ondo and can easily be carved out.

As for Yorubas in Kwara and Kogi, I don't see any problem there. Yorubaland, Edolands and Arewa are united by Islam, and together they will all form a United Islamic republic of Arewa-Oduanistan. It's a strong basis for nationhood, ie shared and common religious belief.

The regions are called Geopolitical Regions and not geocultural, geographical or georeligious regions. All regions were created for administrative purposes hence even your own SE if not monocultural as there are Igalas indigenous to Anambra State just as there are Ibibios and Ijaws native to Abia State, neither is it monoreligious as there are indegenous moslems in the Afikpo areas of Ebonyi State. There are indegenous Itsekiris, Ijaws and Urhobos in Edo State, so it would mean that Delta State which equally is home to these tribes is also culturally a SW state by your preposterous parameters.
The Itsekiris of Delta State are manifestly Yorubas as they don't deny their Yorubaness. In fact the appelation for their monarch is a pure Yoruba term. They trace their roots to Ijebu in Ogun State and speak a Yoruba Dialect. However in your jaundiced analysis Delta State is not culturally SW but Edo State where none of the indegeous tribes speaks Yoruba as mother tongue is culturally SW. Isn't it obvious that you are seriously confused? There is no extent of duplicity and dishonesty the typical Igbo person cannot go in his attempt to distort facts for political correctness.
The SS is made up of very many tribes which have no cultural similarities nor linguistic affinity. The Itsekiris of Delta have no cultural ties with the Ogojas of Cross River State, neither do the Ijaws of Bayelsa have any cultural affinity with the Ibibios of Akwa Ibom, etc. So how did you come about ascribing to the region a single culture which Edo doesn't share in your confused mind?
In fact there is a town in Edo North which shares linguistic affinity and cultural ties with another in Yala LGA of Cross River State as recently revealed by ethnological reserch.
The SS identity is all about the non-Wazobians of the South hence has nothing to do with all these parameters you contrived out of resentment for Edos over their rejection of inclusion in Biafra.
Asari Dokubo is a moslem from Bayelsa just like a lot of other indegenous moslems in Bayelsa, Delta and Cross River, hence your attempt to paint an all-Christian picture for the SS betrays an intention to spin a narrative for political correctness. Ironically Asari Dokubo a devout moslem is a potential high ranking stakeholder in your supposedly all-Christian Biafra not minding the very large population of indegenous moslim population in Ebonyi which is a SE state.
You can keep deluding yourself and spinning obviously preposterous parameters about SS membership just to get back at Edo for rejecting Biafra and sticking to being themselves politically, but the earlier you wake up from your nightmare the better for your envy stricken soul.
Find below a link to IPOB's attempt to coerce Edo into Biafra hence the rejection which triggered in your likes the sour grape syndrome to which effect you began to try to detach Edo from the SS with your contrived but preposterous parameters.
Happy reading:

http://news-af.op-mobile.opera.com/news/detail/aff95b57f83cbb03f132424eedb38e7c?country=zw&language=en&share=1&client=

Yayira:
15 to 20% that one go sweet oo.. but what if they don’t pay the same dividend next year After what happened in ccnn I’m now very carefully chasing dividends

Hmmmmm...

wink2015:
Lucky Igbenedion messed up the economic fortune of Edo state while he was governor of Edo state.

It was during his time as governor crude oil price was sold for $150 per barrel of our Brent crude.

He was busy enriching himself and paying his fathers debt with Edo state people collective commonwealth.

If he had done half of what ex-governor Adams Oshiomole did as governor of Edo state during his rulership and the present incumbent governor Godwin Obaseki is doing in terms of rural and urban transformation. The state would have recorded immensely immeasurable development.

I salute current governor Mr Obaseki.

Lucky Igbinedion's administration took Edo State 100 years back. If he had done just one twentieth of what Oshiomhole did let alone Obaseki, Edo State wouldn't have ever experimented with another party in 2007.

Igbosmoker:
Igbenedion the cursed Edo politician. The man is the worst governor to ever govern any state in Nigeria.

Even yaya bello is a Messiah when compare to this idiot right here.

Lucky Igbenedion is the worst governor in world history. He will go down as the worst thing to ever happen to Edo State. Lawrence Anini remains a saint compared with Lucky Igbinedion.

mastermaestro:
I don't have strength to argue with you. Oshio defeated PDP in Benin because the people of Benin were fed up with Anenih and the Igbinedion family.
Everyone in Benin City wanted PDP gone for good for their terrible governance. So I don't know where you pulled your info from.

You are right. Both Edo South and Edo North were totally fed up with PDP. In fact people didn't want to hear P in these two Senatorial Districts again let alone DP in addition. The resentment for Igbenedions and Anenih was sky high. It was only Esans that still has a soft spot for PDP then due to Osunbor being of them and that their the late Stella Obasanjo was the wife of a BOT chairman of PDP.

Ubenedictus:
then you don't know how osho first election panned out. Benin didn't vote enmass for him, esan voted osunbor, akoko edo to owan voted him in.

You seem to have forgotten that due to unprecedented and widespread electoral violence in Akoko-Edo with guns freely being displayed by PDP supporters on the day of election, Akoko-Edo votes were cancelled hence not reckoned with in the final collation of results in the 2007 Edo guber election. Osunbor/PDP major ground of appeal against the tribunal ruling back then was that Akoko-Edo rerun be ordered by the Appeal Court against the tribunal's contrary position. PDP however lost the at the Appeal because Edo PDP, in its characteristic shabbiness, didn't make that pleading at the tribunal level but rather was claiming that it won Akoko-Edo.
Then go back and check the results of that election and see the bloc votes Oshiomhole got from Bini areas.