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Southeast of Nigeria is not interested in any form of revolution in Nigeria nor is it interested in useless strike or labor action organized by the useless NLC/TUC that would rather buy luxurious buses built in China than the ones manufactured by Nigerian labor force. What a bunch of hypocrites.

All regions of Nigeria can engage in disturbance of peace and riot except eastern region as they did in 1965 that culminated into a coup in 1966 but we all knew what followed after the aforementioned coup. There is no doubt southeast wanted out of the cesspit called Nigeria and shall never be interested in the delusional “One-Nigeria”.

I guess southeast will be very much interested in any revolution that calls for the disintegration of the colonial contraption called Nigeria.

The contributors who seemed bent out of human form because southeast invoked its fundamental liberty not to partake in the useless labor action initiated by idiotic NLC can jump off the cliff.

The aforementioned fuel subsidy in Nigeria is a government sponsored scam or 419. According Webster Dictionary, subsidy is defined as:

1. Monetary assistance granted by a government to a person or group in support of an enterprise regarded as being in the public interest.
2. Financial assistance given by one person or government to another.

In USA, there is farm subsidy granted to farmers by the government. There are other form of subsidies granted to manufacturers of certain goods and services.

As far I know, crude oil business in Nigeria is exclusively federal government endeavor.

Now, who gets the much talked about fuel subsidy in Nigeria and for what?

@OP

Nigerians are afraid of security forces in Nigeria because there are no expressed and functional laws that allow Nigerian populace (civilians) to bear arms, concealed or not. It is display of idiocy to insinuate the practice of democratic system of government when people do not have the right to bear arms.

The good move by the SE traders. Are the mo.rons calling for strike not the same members of NLC and TUC leadership who opted to spend 500 billion naira on luxurious buses made in China instead of the ones made in Nigeria via INNOSON? I pray idiotic gods of Nigeria to punish NLC/TUC leadership for dreaming of labor actions.

Nigeria is a practical joke kept alive by the flourishing guilt associated with Nigeria-Biafra civil war. The country has lost the innocence required for handling complex issues without fear or favor. The mountain of deceitfulness, heap of corruption, injustice, contemptuous and slimy dupes, inequality, sectionalism, lack of patriotism, indecency, self-denial and social decadence are by-products of the civil war.

It is arrant nonsense to point accusing fingers at the election of Goodluck Jonathan to the presidency as the source of Nigeria’s problems. The problem facing Nigeria is very fundamental and rooted in self-denial. 

Is there any reason why the northern borders of Nigeria are open to all manners of individuals, mainly Islamic fundamentalists, who have free liberty to import any kind of ammunition into the Nigeria while the southern borders are caged with best technology money can buy and militarized? I guess the crude oil or southern Nigeria is the golden goose.

If Boko Haram decides to march down south, I am not sure if the southerners could put up a good fight. I guess some southerners have the tendency to whip out brooms.

Both Apapa and Tin Can ports are roped with scanners. The southern creeks are patrolled by heavily armed soldiers and sailors. Southern Nigeria is an occupied zone and it sucks.

Dem_people na Andre Uweh chukwu gozie ezi na olu unu. Chukwu mee ka nwa tiie unu akii n’ikpere.

Chukwu nonyere Umu Igbo niile.

Fasting and praying indeed. Only fools without clue or plan fast and pray when war and chaos are looming in the horizon. Instead of designing means to get armed, the so-called idiotic IYM (Igbo Youth Movement) is announcing to Nigerian crowd it’s intention to fast and pray. What a bunch of losers. I thought Ironsi died years ago.

Nigeria is a funny colonial contraption consisting of idiotic southern region and deceptive northern region. While the northern region is guided by Islamic fundamentalist in majority, the southern region is overflowing with moronic leadership.

The people of northern region of Nigeria had continued to take advantage of the geophysical nature of the country guaranteed by idiotic mannerism of southern regional crowd. The northern border of Nigeria is as porous as sandy soil which enabled political leaders from the northern region and groups such as Boko Haram to import loads of weapons and mercenaries into the country unabated. If the reverse was the case, concrete walls would have been erected between Nigeria and Chad or Niger Republic.

In the southern region, the issue of border watch is serious national interest. The seaports are clogged with latest and best scanners today’s technology can produce and capable of penetrating three inches of thick metal case. The sea lanes are patrolled by heavily armed sailors commanded by a flag officer named Abdullahi or Mohammadu. The creeks are filled with so-called JTF (Joint Task Force) of course commanded by Bello or Farouk with orders to shot at sight.

Today, southern region of Nigeria looks like an occupied zone with all forms of militias patrolling the streets. Yet the bombings and threats of mayhem are from the northern region of Nigeria with a group such as Boko Haram spearheading the northern political agenda. No wonder groups such OPC, MOSOP and MASSOB are all barks and no bites. The southern region of Nigeria is punk. 

For the sake of the argument, if war should break out today between the northern and southern regions, the south would have its back at the Atlantic Ocean gasping for air before mounting concerted effort to repel the north. Northern region of Nigeria is a cache of military weapons ranging from Tanks to AK-47.

I have never believed in the cesspit called Nigeria or the goofy stuff such as One-Nigeria anyway. Whether it is military, civilian, democratic or monarchical rule, Nigeria is doomed.

Aigbofa:
I will disregard your unprovoked attacks on me and refer you to Katsumoto's reply to the only meaningful part of your drivel. I am not the greatest fan of OBJ as well, but facts are facts.

It is unfortunate you regarded my response as an unprovoked attack. I did not mean to attack you but make you understand Biafra never capitulated in Obasanjo’s hand. There is more to Biafra’s surrender than the eyes could see. 3MCDO came through with rested and hardly battle-tested unit. There were better Nigerian military units than 3MCDO which sustained pressure throughout the war.

Again, there were reasons why Obasanjo was chosen to represent Gowon during surrender process that bordered on politics and esprit de corps.

Katsumoto:
Obasanjo was not a better field commander yet it was Obasanjo who conceived 'Operation Tail-wind', the final offensive which resulted in the capture of Owerri and Uli, ending the war in the process. 3MCDO led the final assualt and it was supported by the more 'organised' or 'disciplined' (your words) 1st and 2nd Divisions led by Jallo and Bisalla who had both been in the war longer than Obasanjo. I am not an admirer of Obasanjo but I will give credit where credit is due.

I hope you did not expect me to respond to this bloated conjecture.

T8ksy:
Talk about a pot dissing a kettle!

And you just like blowing grammar whilst spewing c.rap.

Am still waiting for you to provide me with evidence of the election that Zik and the NCNC won in western nigeria in 1951.

To reiterate, until you provide this evidence, your credibility here is in the negative.

Dede, you are a pathological liar!!!

I have every intention to leave you wallowing in ignorance of unpardonable proportion. If you have not expressed tendencies of laziness, you would have, at least, embark on exploratory research to help yourself with the issues of 1951 regional election in what turned out be Nigeria.

It takes one pathological liar to recognize another. I guess you still remember the bombing of Lagos into stone age by Biafran air force.

@POST

Gowon is a borderline imbec.ile. Has he regretted the policy of abandon property yet? With the rate he goes about regretting his constructs, I shall not be surprise if he regrets setting up his family.

@OP

It will be glorified futile attempt to educate you on what ”Ojukwu and Co” saw about cesspit called Nigeria if at this stage of your life it still blows aimlessly over your skull.

They say “ a fool at 40 is bound to be fool forever”.

Katsumoto:
Dede1,

If an aggrieved party receives 90% of its demands from an agressor, would you expect the aggrieved party to hold out for the remaining 10%? Ojukwu got 90% of what he requested at Aburi but went to war over the remaining 10%. Anyway, I know you will discount the write-up below but as usual, I will post for the benefit of those who aren't aware.

"In the atmosphere of recrimination an effort was made to hold political talks in August via an ad-hoc advisory assembly comprised of representatives from all the regions. Recommendations were made at the September 1966 Constitutional conference for the political future of the country. At this conference the Midwest region emerged as the only region in Nigeria to support the preservation of a federal structure. All other regions favored an arrangement closer to a confederacy or perhaps even a complete divorce. Subsequently, in January 1967, military leaders met at Aburi in Ghana and reached a number of agreements designed to guide Nigeria's future and come to terms with the immediate past.

However, the home stretch of the final dash to the tape of eastern secession began on March 17, when Decree No. 8 - also known as the Constitution Suspension and Modification Decree 1967 - was promulgated, ostensibly to implement the Aburi agreements. The decree, for all practical intents and purposes, restored much of the autonomy of Military Governors in their respective regions which had been taken away on January 17, 1966 by Decree No. 1 of 1966.

Consistent with agreements reached between military leaders at Aburi, in Ghana on January 4th and 5th, the title of the 'Supreme Commander' of the Nigerian Armed Forces was changed to "Commander-in-Chief"; the executive authority of the Federal Republic of Nigeria which had been vested in the Head of the Federal Military Government, was now vested in the Supreme Military Council. Indeed the SMC could not make laws on some issues without the approval of not only the C-in-C but also ALL regional governors.

However, section 86 of the Constitution was upheld, to ensure that no region could exercise authority in a manner that placed the corporate integrity of the federal government in jeopardy. Furthermore, sections 70 and 71 of the Constitution were invoked to specify that a state of emergency could be declared all over Nigeria by the SMC; and such laws as would be considered "necessary" or "expedient" for maintenance of law and order could be passed with concurrence of three (3) out of the four (4) governors. During such an emergency the federal government reserved to itself the right to overrule any laws that had hitherto been passed by the military government of the region to which the state of emergency applied.

Citing what he considered a serious violation of the Aburi accord, and the need to have absolute control over the question of safety and security for his people, the Military Governor of the Eastern region (Lt. Col. CO Ojukwu) rejected it. In taking this stance, he overruled the reservations of the Secretary to the Eastern Regional Government (NU Akpan) and a few senior eastern army officers (like Col Hilary Njoku). Ojukwu felt that the decree had the potential to deprive him of having a say in what steps might or might not be acceptable within his own region in the event of a state of emergency being declared.

Conceivably such steps might even include replacing him with another Eastern officer. However, those who lobbied that the Eastern region accept Decree No. 8 based their arguments on the fact that the decree gave Ojukwu "over 90%" of what he wanted at Aburi as well as providing a way to avoid the horrors of war. (Col Hilary Njoku's disagreement with Ojukwu on this point cost him the command of the Biafran Army and bagged him a sentence to jail without trial for almost the entire duration of the war."

You are a very funny chap. Hilary Njoku did not attend the Aburi, Ghana peace conference between Nigeria and Eastern Region. Ojukwu was more than a qualified principal player during negotiation in Aburi and understood the implication of Decree No. 8 which was a precursor to the evil machination that saw to the creation of states. Ojukwu predicted the aims of the Decree No. 8 as first step to render him irrelevant as against the guidelines agreed upon in Aburi, Ghana.

By the way, Gowon has publicly admitted he committed unpardonable political blunder in the act of turning Nigeria into 12 (twelve) states instead of 4 (four) regions.

It is beyond the pale of any human comprehension you deduced Hilary Njoku lost the command of Biafran armed forces due to disagreement he, Hilary, had with Ojukwu over Aburi, Ghana’s peace accord. What a load of rubbish.

Again, I had wished you stopped regurgitating craps Nowa Omoigui set for undiscerning audience to consume.

@POST

Gowon is the reason Nigeria remains in bad shape today. He has not started regretting his sins yet because loads of regrets are about to hit him on the face.

Gowon’s creation of states was the political machination which spearheaded the renege of all accords agreed in Aburi, Ghana. Gowon and his numbskull advisers engaged in the creation of states to render Ojukwu politically and militarily irrelevant because eastern region had been divided into three states and Ojukwu was not penciled as an administrator to any of the three newly created states.

oyb:
did america immortalize robert e lee?

does the uk immortalize george washington?

in all honesty why would a country celebrate/immortalize the leader of a failed attempt at secession?

Have you set your feet in USA before now?

The question of UK immortalization of George Washington was a misguided analogy at best.

Yinkay:
He shoud be immortalised so that we can learn from past mistakes that led to the war and forge a truly united 9ja.Google Rober E. Lee to know how Americans recovered from their civil war.

Good to see you regain intellectual balance from the mockery thread you put up against immortalization of Ojukwu.

volasunkan:
When Wole Soyinka protested that the civil war was an 'ego' war between ojukwu and Gowon,he was locked in Jail by Gowon,they incacerated him and still went on to kill millions during that senseless war.
Fast forward to 2011,the man whose lack of decorous engagement resulted in the war and subsequent killing of millions is being shamelessly praised for his 'bravery' and brilliance

I think it is an insult to celebrate this man's death,it is like Liberians/Serria-leone celebrating Charles Taylor.

Ojukwu in all moral sense,does not deserve a national burial.His hands carry the blood stain of innocent souls!

The fact remains you either chose to be disingenuous with the issue of Nigeria/Biafra war, stayed totally ignorant of the facts, had comprehension problem, fed with fallacies about the genesis of the war or both.

Aigbofa:
Everybody who did not steal food from women and children and then jump the ship when the sea became rough is a coward. Biafra capitulated in Obasanjo's hands, a very cowardly act, according to your warped logic.

Obasanjo dreaded Ojukwu! what a load of crap. For a brief moment, he had the whole of iboland under his whims. He was the first Eze igbo gburugburu.

Above post is born out of stack ignorance. There are many goofy individuals on this forum that lacked structural knowledge of military protocol and will continue to flaunt it regrettably. When a person reads the junk these anemic individuals post about the Nigeria/Biafra war, undiscerning audience will assume Nigeria had 3MCDO as the only military unit in the theater of war during the debacle. .

The reasons Gowon ordered Obasanjo to stand on his behalf during the initial Biafra’s surrender to Nigeria were political and esprit de corps. However, few loudmouths had twisted the exercise of surrender to their inherent source of pleasure.

I do not think Obasanjo was comparatively a better field commander than Jallo or Bisalla. In addition, 3MCDO was not even as organized or disciplined unit as 1st and 2nd divisions.

@POST

Gowon, Awolowo, Ejoor, Adebayo, Mobolaji Johnson, Katsina, Wey and all the groups which supported and advised federal government of Nigeria to reneged on all the  accords agreed upon in Aburi, Ghana.

[quote author=Intrepid!]Do not open your trap and talk poo about people you know nothing about, oga. If I come here today and say your dad is an adulterer because your landlord said so, would that make my argument valid?[/quote]When you posit a valid analogy and probably read wide about Nigerian military history, I may decide to engage you in banter such as Aguiyi's issue. By the way, Aguiyi could have stood-in as the proverbial landlord since he was the head of state and C-in-C. So TY Danjuma was an attached tenant in your adulterous analogy with respect to Nigerian armed forces of the era in discuss.

In case if you have forgotten, Johnson Thomas Umunnakwe Aguiyi Ironsi was army desk clerk as enlisted recruit. Soldiers such Ademulegun, Ogundipe, Effiong, D Bassey, Fajuiyi, Adebayo, Adefope, Njoku etc were enlisted men and served as desk clerks if they were lucky.

Ajillo:
What will you say about the recent statement credited to General T.Y. Danjuma that late General Aguiyi Ironsi, who was killed as a military Head of State, was a useless man. What is your reaction?

Aguiyi Ironsi was indeed a useless man and died as one too. Major Patrick Nzeogwu once referred to Aguiyi Ironsi as a mere army desk clerk. I really hate to hear Aguiyi’s name in debates.

[quote author=~Bluetooth link=topic=813161.msg9663639#msg9663639 date=1322661807]War is about victory not glory.Biafara fought gloriously but failed woefully.Adekunle and obj brought the war to an end and any consequences that may have affected biafara was as a result of the declaration of the republic of biafara.war is not a training or video game,it's about death.Ibos killed nigerians likewise nigerian army killed ibos.so lick your wounds and quit bit-ching ![/quote]It is a true statement that stupidity can not be cured. Only a frustrated lunatic can insinuate Adekunle and Obasanjo brought Nigeria/Biafra civil war to an end. Even if Nigeria had one army division during war, it will still sound goofy to publicly state that the commanders of such army unit ended the war.

Maybe Nigerian army's 1st and 2nd divisions including the air force and navy did not contribute to the war efforts. Some folks are really born with loudmouths.

@POST

Did these incoherent drivels from Benjamin Adekunle save his putrid mouth from being dismissed as incompetent field commander?

[quote author=aloy/emeka link=topic=814135.msg9662625#msg9662625 date=1322652118]Bottomline is everyone is wishing they had gone apart. Nobody is to blame here because no one knew the North will evolve to modern day terrorists someday. As a matter of fact, if the US and UK knew, they wouldn't have supported Nigeria during the civil war.[/quote]This is an irresponsible attempt to copout in order to see off culpability as a result of political shortsightedness displayed by the participating principals in Nigeria/Biafra war except Ojukwu.

Visionary is not seeing things the way they are but the way they should have been. The bottom line is those who joined Nigeria to precipitate a war against Biafra were foolish, idiotic and politically blind.

Nigerians are borderline ingrates. When Hon. Patrick Obahiagbon unleashes his extraterrestrial grammar (Queens English) on the audience, few Nigerians will seem to be bent out of shape. Yet when GWSlim & Co labored so hard to bring the same Queens English down to the dirty soils of Nigeria, the same cross section of Nigerian society frowns at the effort.

@POST

The writer managed to have Ojukwu in the same light as Churchill but failed to inform us that Churchill lost his bid in another run as Prime Minister few months after being held as a WWII hero.

I do not think it was a let down when Dr Onwudiwe defeated Ojukwu in the senatorial context but a true political flux of the era. If Ojukwu had contested under NPP which tilted toward his people on the national strata, he would have been a senator-elect.

CyberG:
So, you drew a parallel between a factual statement for which Ojukwu fought, which Nigeria struggles with today and made in 1947 as "mere"? Do you know that Ahmadu Bello in his autobiography described the amalgamation that created Nigeria “The mistake of 1914”? So Awolowo was making a statement which is true but drawing a parallel with is position as Minister of Finance is just an attempt to denigrate his person and office which you know is impossible. Have you or anyone been considered for position of supervisor of local government affairs in your state till date, talk less of Minister at the national level. Dede, don't let your bitterness eat you up but seek healing because while this man made his marks on time, your name will not be heard even by your own great grandchildren in your family - think about that. Next, you cannot speak for Ojukwu as to his feelings and opinions - that is just plain primary school argument. Since when did you read his mind or become his oracle? At the end of the day, Ojukwu still NEVER blamed Awolowo but if he did, show the proof of it.

You seem to occupy your silly self with transient vanity and err of personality. I had rather remain unknown solid citizen in a progressive nation than a known dignitary of a retrogressive cesspit called Nigeria. I knew few people, including Awo, who thought Nigeria was not only a “mere geographical expression but also an accident of British colonial suzerainty. If Awo made true statement of Nigeria as a mere geographical expression, I equally made a true statement about “mere commissioner for finance" following Awo’s stream of thought.

If you are contributing to this debate so as to defend Awo, you need to do better because you are failing woefully. I have no interest whatsoever to defend Ojukwu and his dealings during Nigeria/Biafra civil war

KnowAll: What is wrong with this Ilorin people, they behave like a defeated people despite the fact that the incursion into their land that made them Muslims in the 1830’s was the same continual one albeit subtle incursion into the SW that made several people Muslims in Lagos, Ogun, Oshun, Oyo and Ondo State.

Why do the other Yoruba’s despite being Muslim or Christians still put on traditional Yoruba caps when they dress in native attires? The Kwara people despite being Yoruba just want to belong, their attitude to me appear as someone trying effortlessly to woo the North and each time they try hard, the Northerners spurns such overtures with disdain. Is it not high time they smell the coffee and retrace their steps embracing and celebrating their Yorubaness instead of being an attaché to a Group who does not reckon and want them.

During the last PDP insistence that the Presidential Candidate for the Party should come from the North, Kwara’s Saraki was openly spurned and referred to as a Yoruba man yet the silly guy and the even more sillier new Governor goes around wearing one stupiiiid Hausa cap trying to belong. What is wrong with this people?

It is not a matter of acting like bunch of defeated people. In fact, they were soundly defeated. Did you think Afonja’s saga was a mere a stock of your trade- unfounded conjecture?

humblebee:
"Former Head of State, Gen Yakubu Gowon has described late Chief Odumegwu Ojukwu as a great Nigerian who believed so much in the unity of the country."

im so disappointed in this man, sounds mentally derailed, how can he say Ojukwu believed so much in the unity of the country

Gowon knew for fact that Ojukwu never wanted anything less than united Nigeria. From Ojukwu’s adamant insistence that Ogundipe, a Yoruba, should be next C-in-C after disappearance of Ironsi to Ojukwu’s dogged defense of Aburi accord enlisted Ojukwu as a staunch believer in unity of Nigeria. However, the dunces who eat the unimaginable craps published on the pages of newspapers and Internet will never know better.