T9ksy: In that case, am sure you will agree with the rest of us who opined and still continue to do so, that Zik ( in spite of his educational
attainments and command of the colonialist’s language which he utilised to great measures to bamboozle his gullible followers), had no business
running a kindergarten playground scheme, never mind deciding the future of millions of people, if he couldn’t discern the obvious writings on the
wall of Nigeria’s pseudo-unity that he would vehemently opposed the inclusion of a secession clause in the constitution of the new nation. This is
despite the killings of his people in 1945 and again in 1953. Unless, of course, he had other ulterior motives for his staunch support for One indivisible
Nigeria..
Was Zik the final arbiter on which clause should be included in the constitution or not?
obynzo: Oga If you must know the terms of reference for the talks at Lancaster House for independence was clearly spell out by the British, and it was that the borders of colonial Nigeria would never be redrawn or changed.
The Dailylie does not know the difference between constitutional conference and writing of a constitution.
Deadlytruth: I disagree with you. The Independence Constitution was a we-the-people constitution produced entirely from inputs by the freely elected representatives from all federal constituencies to the 1957 London Constitutional conference. The British had no input in it at all. Here is a video of it. Note the British guys in the background who were only watching the proceedings in observer capacity. Happy watching:
Why do people from certain section of Nigeria tend to make fool of themselves in public? The constitutional conferences does not equate to writing a constitution. When Azikiwe was the Governor-General of Nigeria in 1960, he was just representative of HRM Queen Elizabeth. Every reference of authority ends with his HRM and UK Parliament. However in 1963 when the Nigeria became a Republic, the HRM Queen Elizabeth changed to President of the Federal Republic of Nigeria and UK Parliament changed to the Parliament of Federal Republic of Nigeria. The 1963 Federal Republic of Nigeria constitution was mere edited version of 1960 constitution.
Do not get wrong about Igbo leaders. I am an Igbo leader in my house. If something happens in Nigeria today, you and I should not be invited to Abuja for consultation. However there are Igbo personalities who could be invited. This invitation does not any way or form confer Igbo leadership on the invitees.
LZAA: Ndigbo lead themselves We don't and we have never needed leaders If you are truly igbo you would know this
What nonsensical insinuation is the bolded? I have stated SE does not have leaders. In addition, it is not totally true Ndigbo do not have leaders but a consensus leader either by culture or religion. Most of the time, elected officials and other well placed Igbo men in the society will term themselves as Igbo leaders.
What is the relevance of the percentage Muslim figures you are concocting ? What difference would it make if it was 100% Muslim
The problem with folk like you is duplicity and dishonesty If Nigeria is to work we must find a way of finding unity which means avoiding division and avoiding supremacist agendas
The issue here is that the Reverend accused Buhari of nepotism and lopsidedness Is your position that it is false or that it is justified because Muslims are somehow more deserving
Will Buhari's actions help Nigeria unity in the long run? Is there a realistic scenario in which that domination agenda can work in Nigeria or will it lead to Nigeria becoming a failed state?
Instead of addressing those issues you are talking of who is more Muslim?
Is that the problem of the country just now?
Lagos state indigenes are probably 90% Muslim with virtually all Obas in the state as Muslims. So what?
Why is Lagos more open than Zamfara
No one is engaging you in this competition for numbers . The point is a situation in which the Chief of Army ,police, DSS Customs, Prison, Immigration NDLEA are headed by Northern Muslims will not lead as some of you think to long term Northern muslim dominance. It will lead to the break up of the nation.Just like in Sudan so it will eventually be with Nigeria
Never knew the poster of the above subject can be a person of reason. At least in Jonathan's case, the Christians hailed from south and north.
SE leaders and the Ohaneze group are grossly inefficient.
There is nothing they have been able to get for their people from the unitary central government.
The vacuum in leadership is what is making the youths join IPOB.
The northern leaders are more aggressive in ensuring their people get something from the unitary government.
For example they said attack on Boko is attack against the north and so you can see the members drive around Nigeria territory in conveys and take away hundreds of people and nobody would be arrested.
SE does not have leaders and Ohanaeze is a practical joke. The read from the news media that Sultan of Sokoto defended Boko Haram. The so-called and moronic SE leaders had joined enemies of Ndigbo and Biafrans to criticize ESN already.
bayocanny: You're not far from the truth brother, the coalition govt was suppose to spell out the position of deputy prime minister and ratified it in the constitution but they failed to do so.
Bro, I guess you did not forget who gave Nigeria the constitution. The 1960 Nigerian constitution was the one the colonialists used before the independence. In 1963, it was merely edited. HRM, Queen of UK was changed to President of Nigeria.
bayocanny: You're correct bro. As a united Nigeria, we can still overcome our differences and find a common ground if only both our past and present leaders have done the right thing. For instance, the first coup was foiled by Ironsi, it is expected of him to brought the perpetrators to justice and return to civilian rule. I feel the Decree 34 was inconsequential.
Second, hadn't been our leaders have sense there should be a provision for the post of DEPUTY PRIME MINISTER in order for forestall unforeseen circumstances.
Balewa was murdered, yet the coup was foiled. The deputy prime minister should have step forward instead of the then Chief of Army Staff. In essence, our foundation was poor and watery.
In a society where virtue takes the place of stupidity, the position of Deputy Prime Minister should have been a forgone conclusion. There was a deputy prime minister in the mode of the Ranking Minister since it was coalition government. However those who thought they were born to govern refused to adhere to the simple protocol.
Deadlytruth: I am a Midwesterner, yes and most Nairalanders know this. You aren't answering my questions because they logically remove the rug from your feet. Your likes always tell us here that the Eastern Assembly was convened and from there a decision was reached that Ojukwu should declare Biafra to free the East from Nigeria. I have seen that argument many times here on NL and that is why I now ask you who did same in the Midwest and West to warrant Biafra's invasion of both. My own is not long talk but to use simple logic to kill a fabricated claim.
On March 10, 1967, Gowon promulgated decree #8 which suspended Nigerian constitution. Before the silly move by Gowon, Ojukwu had been in consultative sessions with the body of eastern regional assembly. In fact, the consultation between Ojukwu and eastern regional assembly had been maintained before and after the trip to Aburi, Ghana. On May 27, 1967, Gowon issued yet another decree #14 which divided Nigeria into 12 states. Ojukwu immediately convened the meeting of eastern regional assembly on May 29, 167. After a due deliberation, eastern regional assembly mandated Ojukwu to declare eastern region an independent entity.
On July 6, 1967, Gowon and Nigeria declare actions of hostility against eastern region. Gowon, while sitting tight in Lagos in western region of Nigerai issued orders to the people of Nigeria who were of non-Igbo stock to attack eastern region. Gowon dispatched Benjamin Adekunle to Escravos, Midwestern region to raise up division with remnants of Lagos garrison organization which was mainly Yoruba troops. At Escravos in Midwestern region, Adekunle recruited many Urhobo, Edo, Itsekiri and Ijo to form 3MCDO initial 3 Division. On July 12, 1967, Adekunle and his men left Escravos to mount a seaborne attack on Ubani, (Bonny) in eastern region. Folks you will notice Escravos, the recruitment and training ground is located in Midwestern region had become the launching pad for seaborne attacks on eastern region by Gowon and Nigerians. By July 26, 1967, Ubani (Bonny) is under the control of Nigerian forces. On August 3, 1967, Col. Adeyinika Adebayo through Radio Nigeria in Ibadan publicly announced that western region of Nigeria had officially joined Gowon and northern region in the fight against eastern region. Also, on August 4, 1967, Lt Col David Ejoor through Radio Nigeria in Benin publicly announced Midwestern region had equally thrown its support behind Gowon and northern region of Nigeria against eastern region.
Before the seaborne attack on eastern region, Gowon and northern region had on July 6, 1967 opened infantry attack on Obulu Afor and Gakem . All these attacks on eastern region from Gowon and his cohorts prompted Ojukwu to open a front through Midwestern region on August 8, 1967.
WorWorBoy: sore losers get this into your thick igbo crimnal flat skull,igbos have nothing to offer Ijaws in this your fantasy Biafra except for drug dealers, fraudsters, prostitutes and human traffickers.
We don't want to form country with such barbaric Animals.
Otokoto people leave us the fvck alone.
On a serious note, who would want to have an ancestral denial artist as compatriot? Anybody who claimed Ijo should be directed back to Akwapim-Togo areas.
Deadlytruth: Banjo was not supposed to invade Benin but when he invaded it and captured Osadebey House, Biafran soldiers dislodged David Ejoor and tried to capture him alive yet Ojukwu didn't investigate that but even gave approval for Ejoors replacement in the person of Okonkwo? When I call you a comedian you would accuse me of insulting you.
johntolu:No Igbo man dead or alive, will ever admit that their actions on January 15th, 1966, was an open declaration of war against other Nigerians.
If the above silly assertion holds any water, a person wonders why successive coups in Nigeria were not termed "Open declaration of war against other Nigerians". Coups in Nigeria were precipitated by elements of Nigerian army not tribes. Only a hypocritical goon will believe otherwise. Since after January 15, 1966, Nigeria had, at least, witnessed more than two coups yet no loudmouthed ninny had described them as "Open declaration of war against other Nigerians". Nigeria is simply a joke.
johntolu: I felt you conveniently avoided giving a response to my question, on why Ironsi refused restoring power to civilian authorities after foiling the coup. The excuse you gave for avoiding my question was that the question is an 'indictment of Nigeria educational system', which does not make sense in any way, without you giving an enlightenment to those of us, who are not opportuned to have the type of superior education you have as to the reason for Ironsi's act of treachery. You are absolutely correct that there was no any official government Minister designated as Deputy Prime Minister in the Parliamentary system of government which Nigeria practiced in the 1st Republic. This does not implies that the major party in the ruling coalition then, the Northern People's Congress (NPC), does not have an heirachical structure in place, among Cabinet Ministers, which is common practice in Britain, where the system was borrowed.
After the assassination of Tafawa Balewa, NPC cabinet members, who are the major partner in the coalition with NCNC and NNDP, chose Zanna Diprichima as the Prime Minister designate to succeed Tafawa Balewa but the move was scuttled by both Ironsi and Nwafor Orizu, the then acting President, in the absence of Azikwe, who was conveniently away on an extended 'medical cruise', in the Caribbean.
Please do not make yourself a case study of this discuss. You have agreed the government was coalition type and must have the partners to remain in government. Why would you even insinuate about NPC being the major party in coalition when it could not form a government as so-called major party? If the NPC dreamt any attempt to show itself as a major party in the coalition, it would have become opposition party in a hurry. Action Group was already in alliance with NCNC and would have formed a coalition government without NPC. Being the party that won majority of the seats but not enough or even half of the seats to form a government does not confer anything to the party. NPC and NCNC could not agree on the prime minister candidate. In fact, NCNC already had a prime minister in wait who was the ranking minister and usually deputizes for the prime minister. However due to the foolhardy of the NPC ministers to follow simple protocol, they insisted to produce the prime minister in the coalition. In coalition government, the party which won most of the seats gets the prime minister while coalition partners gets the slot for the ranking minister who in practical terms, a deputy prime minister.
Christafarian: Oga, the second paragraph of your post is incorrigible. Your use of diction is also poor, contrary to what lawyers should be known for. No offence intended. Only work on it.
How? If you found it not grammatically sound, you could as well correct it through your high intellect. This is internet forum for crying out loud.
owobokiri: As far as I'm concerned, It should be made a capital offence for judges to collect bribes! Somebody taking bribe to rule that what belongs to you is no more yours? Imagine that! Such judges, lawyers, judicial office workers involved in sundry bribery cases should be handed the death penalty, then be lined up not up to 30 minutes after sentencing at the bar beach or something and then shot! Do it for a year and watch the system sanitized beyond belief..
The cases involved in this type of scam are mostly political. There is a supreme court governor in Imo State.
hakeem4: From the list above I can deduce that west Africa east Africa and central Africa are the most under developed regions
I think this list is partial. Are they trying to say that no European nation, Asian or South American nation is horrible?
European Is the writer from business insider trying to say countries like Croatia and Serbia are doing far better than Nigeria even after the ustache war and the vukovar massacre in 1991? Or other east European nation?
asian, Middle East Is the writer trying to say countries like Iran, Iraq Turkmenistan, Syria all doing better than Nigeria? With the chaos going on in most countries there.
I can’t believe that no South American country made this list
To be partial is human. However Africa is the worst continent on earth in terms of social amenities. I guess if you take good look at the geographical map, Afghanistan and Yemen are Asian countries.
hakeem4: According to business insider (India) on December 28, 2020. You can checkout the position of your country.
According to business insider (India) on December 28, 2020. You can checkout the position of your country.
17. Ivory Coast — 48.97. We begin with the Ivory Coast in West Africa, a country which scores just 35.43 on the SPI's "personal rights" metric, thanks in part to two civil wars in the last 14 years alone.
16. Mozambique — 47.96. One of the big problems Mozambique faces is water and sanitation, a sub-index it scores a worrying 19.95 in. The country suffered a brutal 15-year? civil war which ended in the early 1990s, but thankfully it has been relatively stable since then.
15. Cameroon — 47.22. Another West African country, Cameroon is a former British and French colony, and President Paul Biya is known for being an authoritarian. It suffers from bad pollution, with just 41.37 on the SPI "environmental quality" metric.
14. Nigeria — 46.49. It's West Africa again, and despite Nigeria's natural resources making it the 20th largest economy in the world, social progress is slow. It scores just 32.45 on "tolerance and inclusion" sub-index.
13. Mali — 46.24. Another West African country plagued by political upheaval thanks to Islamist rebels and Tuareg military coups, Mali suffers from low "personal freedom and choice," scoring just 34.16 on that index.
12. Mauritania — 46.08. 20% of Mauritanians live on less than $1.25 per day according to the United Nations, and that is reflected in Mauritania's woeful "opportunity" sub-index score of 30.1.
11. Madagascar — 45.91. Citizens of Madagascar — an island off of the coast of south-west Africa — are very poor, with 90% of its inhabitants surviving on less than $2 a day. Water and sanitation are a particularly bad, with a sub-index score of just 15.91.
10. Liberia — 45.07. Liberia means "land of the free" in Latin, but that is not reflected in its SPI ranking, which scores only 41.44 on the "tolerance and inclusion" index. This is partly down to two vicious civil wars over the last three decades, as well as Ebola outbreaks.
9. Sierra Leone — 44.22. Another West African nation plagued by civil war and Ebola outbreaks, the SPI lists housing as a major problem for Sierra Leone, scoring just 27.65 on the "shelter" index because of dangerously low electricity? supplies.
8. Ethiopia — 43.50. Over to East Africa now, Ethiopia endured civil war and communist purges in the 70s and 80s, devastating its economy. Though it's made a bit of a recovery, its access to information and communications index scores a terrible 34.57.
7. Yemen — 41.76. Moving to the Middle East, Yemen was ranked as one of the most corrupt countries in the world by Transparency International. Yemen scores low on every sub-index, but access to advanced education is really terrible at only 5.29.
6. Guinea — 41.66. Back in West Africa, Guinea suffered from serious Ebola outbreaks, while its government has been accused by the UN of major human rights violations. Its "personal freedom and choice" sub-index scores just 33.73.
5. Niger — 41.63. Niger is a landlocked country in North Africa and droughts are a major problem. The SPI ranks its "water and sanitation" sub-index at only 22.19, which has lead to devastating food shortages and famines.
4. Angola — 39.70. Moving down to the south-west coast of Africa, Angola has large mineral and petroleum reserves, but his has not translated to a much better life for its people. The country scores just 25.65 on the "opportunity" index, implying far too many struggle to find work and get ahead.
3. Chad — 36.38. Chad is one of the oldest civilisations in the world, with evidence of human activity dating back to 7000 BC. Sadly its population suffers a great deal today, especially on the "nutrition and medical care" sub-index, which the SPI gives just 44.84.
2. Afghanistan — 35.89. A country devastated by war for as long as most people can remember, Afghanistan scores low on every SPI metric. The "tolerance and inclusion" sub-index is especially bad at 21.92, thanks to a residual presence of the authoritative Taliban.
1. Central African Republic — 30.03. The country with the lowest standard of living for its citizens is the Central African Republic (CAR), according to the SPI. Its scores are low across the board, from water, shelter, nutrition, and education. The worst is the "personal rights," sub-index at only 2.27, suggesting that even if a nation is resource-rich — CAR has huge mineral and oil reserves — not everyone benefits.
Abaman001: Which other group that have the tendency of rendering Havocs in south east region rather than Ipob terror group..... The absconded Yahoo Yahoo criminal launched a complete brainwashed terrorist group called ESN and you all were hailing him.... Its just the beginning, more havoc to come from those terrorists.....
Pls, next topic jarri
Are so lost from the etiquette of intellectualism? How does usual community fracas concern IPOB? I do not think such community squabble is limited to Alaigbo. It is pure silly endeavor by anything of low or average intellect to drag IPOB into a localized dispute.
Lastorator: Pubic service announcement. Unbehalf of the Akwa-Cross people.. I want to make clarification here... I read in this thread https://www.nairaland.com/5447274/languages-spoken-each-36-states that the main language in Akwa ibom is Ibibio, annang and Igbo... I am not at odd with any tribe, but truth is if you dont set the record straight, folks will play the crooked record and fight to the death that it is straight.
Akwa ibom has 3 language, Ibibio, Annang and Oron... Okobo, Ekid, Ika, andoni etc are all dialects that mix these languages up. But there is no single trib in Akwa ibom dat speaks Igbo. But there are igbo speakers in all paet of Akwa Ibom as the migrate to do business ... But there are no indigenous tribes in Akwa ibom that Igbo is their language and there are no indigenous tribes in igbo land, that speak Ibibio.
We are at most very good neighbours... But we are brothers with Efik people of Cross Rivers, as we both understand each others language.
No one should try to twist the narrative... Dont make it seem as we are fighting each other, but don't also try to encroach and take over our space, we live and repect you guys and the difference in ourculture and tradition... We also hope for you guys to love and respect us for our differences and not try to use the social media to change the facts as they are.
Mmi ndo Atta atta ayen akwa abasi ibom, but nkor nvak usughu usung Oro, ntiene ndionghor ndi sem efik... I Used 3 languages here (Ibibio, Oron, and Efik) i am not good in annang but i understand it.. And any true akwa Ibomite will give credence to this... I hope on our Cross River brothers to come out and draw the line... So that tomorrow our boundaries will not be erased and redrawn to suit the drawing party.
You are too infantile to know everything about Akwa Ibom State. Oron is an ethnic group to a jackass.
RuggedSniper: Brilliant @PHijo! This video by Kalabari TV tells a moving story about the Nigerian Civil War and how in 1968, the rebel secessionists brutally deported... forcibly over 12,000 Bakama/Kalabari people from their homelands because they and all the REAL POLITICAL and TRADITIONAL leaders in the Niger Delta, such as the modern-day father of the Ijaw Nation (Chief Harold Dappa-Biriye), Ken Saro-Wiwa, Jasper Adaka Boro, etc, REJECTED Ibo domination (and the ILLEGALLY created 'biafra' that the UN refused to recognise as a country as well) and chose to align with Nigeria. The Nigerian Army led by the 3rd Marine Commando under the command of Benjamin Adekunle, Isaac Adaka Boro, and many gallant soldiers and officers liberated many Niger Delta towns such as Bonny, PH, Calabar, Ikot Ekpene, etc. Many ND people of Ijaw, Ibibio, Ogoni, Efik origin were killed, raped and forcibly conscripted by the rebels before they were crushed in exactly 2 years 6 months or 30 months by Nigerian Federal troops. Cc:Mynd44, OAM4J, Seun, lalasticlala
Why the waste of Internet bandwidth on useless issue? Ijo did not fight on Biafra side. Ijo joined Hausa, Fulani, Kanur and Yoruba to fight Ndigbo and Biafrans. All these nonsensical fabrications cannot change a thing. I hope Ijo are enjoying the fruits of their labor.
Ogbuefi2020: Owo was probably never defeated by other yoruba kingdoms, but Benin empire saw the introduction of european weapons, Owo was the greatest casualty of this era, Esigie sold 80% of Owo as slaves to the portuguese who dumped them in Brazil Sugar plantations. THe igbos of Ado na Idu kingdom abandoned their land and moved to interior east, some crossed the Niger, these are the people some ignorant mofos are claiming that they are from Benin. Benin empire far more successful in the west than in the east
Bro no Bini Oba ever dreamt of expansionist theory toward southeast. Till this moment, no inch of Agbo land was\is in Bini hand. Many people of Bini ancestry were captured by Agbo kingdom and allow to spent most of the lives in Agbo.
Juliusmalema: As far as we are concerned, you can only tell the history of your land and can say what you know about the other which is your opinion and not an authority of the fact.
Malema, I do not know who is included in the "We" in the above post. Any red-blooded Igbo chap who does not fully understood the meaning of "ONICHA" in Igbo lexicon, should approach his or her elders soon.
BafanaBafana: Stop littering this thread with your stupidity. This is not your regular beer palor where you go to show off to those Onitsha main market boys
I do not mean to insult you but you write military issues like someone who has not seen a parade ground in his\her freaking life. Stop embarrassing your kinsmen.
Ojiofor: Dedetwo,compliments of the season,Let me clarify one thing,I am not against self determination of our people,in fact go through my post history from 2010-2017. I am only against IPOB methodology which needlessly cause heavy casualties to her members. You mentioned Zik and Awo,these two great leaders followed dialogue and political participation in achieving independence for Nigeria people. Where will non-participation/boycott in political process lead IPOB and ndi Igbo to? Have you wondered why no international organisation recognize or even taken this current agitation for Biafra serious? Without the support of our local authorities and her political leadership,The agitation is nothing but WASH WASH that is just how is I see the whole thing.
Ojiofor, compliments of the season too. You can agree IPOB methodology has not harmed a housefly. The only killing is masterminded by the Nigerian government. If you are twisted about IPOB and Nigerian government on dialogue or lack thereof, the blame should be squarely on the shoulders of the Nigerian government and its trigger-happy agents. You cited the "dialogue and political participation" in reference to Zik and Awo, it must not lost on you British government made such political participation possible. In case of the Nigeria, IPOB has been proscribed and would not be allowed to open ordinary office talk less political participation.
Nigerians who could not think to commit suicide would proffer the IPOB to join APC in order to participate politically. What dumbass stream of thought. If IPOB is to participate politically, it has be allowed to register as a political party and such a nationalistic party whose mandate is to achieve Republic of Biafra or preferably Republic of Igbo land. As it is now, I had frowned at no-violence stance of IPOB. I had wanted IPOB to be armed to the teeth since Nigeria had the intention to proscribe it whether being violent or not.
dumodust: I was wondering too why they are lumping the south east and south South together, reeks of mischief. Like I said, no matter what they say .. the current thing being considered is south east presidency, not Igbo presidency and there's no south South in it. All this lumping na to bring in Amaechi from the backdoor
Bro, Chibuike Amaechi, who has publicly proclaimed himself Igbo is okay with me. However as Minister of Transportation, he has failed so far to bring the goodies home.
Bro south-south does not exist outside the goofy and so-called Niger Delta. When they want to cheat the people from so-called Niger Delta, they cajole them with south-south. But when it comes to how the national cake should be properly distributed, they lump them into East without the courtesy of qualifying the East.
Politics › Re: Throwback Photos From The Burial Of Aguiyi Ironsi In 1966 by Dedetwo(m): 1:00pm On Dec 29, 2020
