Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 8:21pm On May 22 |
TV01: Ekemefune, you are back...missed you . The only person I enjoy trolling more than ShallowVision is you.
Please sir, what is Igbo for "mitosis", or Yoruba for "chromosomes"? How about the Ijaw word for "Autophagy"? What native Nigerian language had a scientific lexicon? How would speakers of native Nigerian languages have engaged in scientific discourse?
In the absence of "misadventure" from the west. or the use of their language, what scientific engagement did African tribes have, or could have in their native tongues?
If English had not come to us by way of colonisation, to even begin to partake of the technological advancement of the more developed nations we would have had to use their language? How would Nigeria develop a common language? I see Fula may be on the cards .
Colonisation was damaging, but not wholesale without benefit. Keep using it as a reason for not advancing.
How's the market in vibranium (sorry I forget i's indigenous name) . Wakanda ko, Zamunda ni.
TV You know, in spite of myself, I had to smile at this. Viciously written. Anyway, it was saved by the red. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 8:18pm On May 22 |
bemeruca: I feel you, bro. The pain 😂
Grammarly says you have spelling mistakes here and there. Should I fix it for you? 🤣😂 But do you really do what he says you do? |
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 8:10pm On May 22 |
TV01: . . . . to hate white people and ascribe all black issues to them. In that case the climate, geography, flora and fauna to mention a few of the factors I have pointed to must also be white? At a minimum 40% of white people had to vote for Barack Obama to become president. It's likely that 40-50% actually did. You would be doing yourself a great service if you could for once drop the colour lens and the attendant hate framing.
TV I said "much of" and "middle America" for reasons. That said, whats your own grounds for your hatred of black people? |
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 7:32pm On May 22 |
benalvino3: The difference is clear, like 7Up: a factor is something serious leaders identify and overcome. An excuse is when you keep using that same factor to explain failure decade after decade. That is the difference between you and me.
Those factors matter for Israel too. They had desert, limited water, war, hostile neighbours, terrorism, and fewer resources. But they did not sit down for 70 years saying, our road is not smooth. They developed agriculture, technology, defence, water systems, institutions, and their modern economy.
If your mechanic keeps making your car worse every time he touches it, you don’t keep saying, well, the road is rough, the weather is hot, and the car was already old. At some point, you admit the mechanic is incompetent, replace him with someone who can actually fix the car despite those conditions.
That is my point.
Our problem is not that difficulties exist every country has difficulties. Our problem is that the people managing those difficulties keep making the country worse, and people like you come out to explain the failure instead of demanding accountability. If you say permanent failure then I guess you agree with TV01 that there will be failure forever and no progress for black Africans. Worever jaare. Your cup of tea. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 6:20pm On May 22 |
benalvino3: Nobody said building a nation was supposed to be a smooth road.
Difficult road is not an excuse for permanent failure, regression, corruption, broken institutions, collapsing infrastructure, and endless mismanagement that is getting worse by the day.
Israel has not had a smooth road till today. Theey were born into war, surrounded by hostile neighbours, terrorism, resource limitations, etc. Yet look at where they are today compared to many countries that had far more natural resources and less external pressure. They did all their development in a desert.
Our problem is not that the road was rough. Every serious nation had a rough road. Our problem is that after decades of oil money, fertile land, ports, talent, and favourable location, you are here explaining away failure as if is unique to us. You are not saying anything tangible. If you acknowledge that it could not be a smooth road, then you are simply making noise. Because everything else you say makes no sense. What is permanent failure? Do you know the meaning of the word permanent at all? And I am just sick of the word "excuse." No one is excusing anything. You were the one calling every factor an excuse only to admit that each mentioned factor mattered. Shattap my friend. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 5:51pm On May 22 |
benalvino3: Of course, they did not colonize us for our benefit, but we benefited anyway. You are benefiting from the language you are speaking as well.
That is supposed to be a checkpoint, not an excuse.
Nobody is saying Nigeria had perfect public systems everywhere after independence. The point is that the systems that existed were supposed to be maintained, improved, and scaled. If third-floor water pressure dropped because more people were connected, the solution was not for the entire water system to decay, but rather better planning, more pumping stations, more reservoirs, more pipes, and proper maintenance. You have lived in the UK for decades, so you know very well that expanding public services is not magic. It requires planning, investment, maintenance, accountability, and competent leadership. So why are you making excuses for failure?
Notice I highlighted accountability, why?
Because without it, even foreign investors will not provide better services; instead, they will milk the people. MTN and Econet are good examples. My elder brother's Nigerian line was bought for 50K naira back in the year 2000. That was a huge sum of money. Early adopters, I guess. But the fact that he would spend an hour or more trying to call someone is where the issue is. MTN was not scaling its network to accommodate the growing number of users. They were not getting sanctioned for the bad services they were providing to customers. But I digress.
Even in places where population density was low, nobody is saying every remote bush should have had running water in 1965. But what happened to the places that already had water, electricity, schools, hospitals, and functioning administration? Why did many of those systems regress or collapse completely? As I said, what they left for us was/is supposed to be a checkpoint: improve and maintain the standards.
Growing up in Port Harcourt, my grandfather had two large industrial generators in a generator house. They were noisy, heavy-duty machines, but we barely used them for months sometimes because electricity was steady. At night, we might run them for only about 10 minutes. I am sure we were one of the few houses on the street with generators. I don't know any other compound in my street that uses generators. In my granddad's compound, none of the tenants have it. So it powers my Grandfathers family house and my dad's house in the compound.
Gradually, we started using them more and more. Power is less reliable. When the generators got bad, they were difficult to repair because they were old tech. At that time, the generator business was not even a thing as it is today. By the time generators became a thing and repairers became common, our own generators were already outdated.
That is the story of Nigeria: regression, poor maintenance, and failure to scale.
So Nigeria did not simply fail because colonialism left some systems or the systems were to benefit the colonisers. Nigeria failed because the post-independence leadership class failed to maintain what existed, failed to expand it properly, and failed to build institutions that could survive corruption and incompetence.
So stop pretending decay was inevitable. Limited infrastructure is not the same thing as total collapse. Serious countries take what exists, improve it, and expand it. Failed countries make excuses while everything falls apart. So you are trying to excuse your way out of this by falling back on colonialism. The same "you" wants to talk about ignorance and education. This is the lack of self-awareness I was talking about. 1. I have said this before and i will say it again - is it that you people believe that this journey was ever meant to be or ever going to be a smooth road? 2. Point me to one nation which has had a smooth road. In fact, one nation which has not experienced all the things developing nations are going through now. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Worst White Better Than Best Black by DeepSight(op): 4:46pm On May 22 |
tctrills: This is the left blaming everything and everyone but the black young male. These guys are not responsible for anything they do. In fact, they are innocent victims. Oh so your God naturally designed blacks with a gun violence gene right? Look at what Budaatum extracted, is that not pure sociology? Why this habit of imagining that some racial groups are just good and some are just bad, absent cause? |
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Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 3:31pm On May 22 |
IjeBos: You're right, in some regards what Trump is doing is far worse than what's happening in Nigeria, That it can be so open, so in-their-faces, so boldfaced and without tangible resistance is what really fascinates me. Somewhere in the belly of much of white and middle America, I cant help feeling, rests the willingness to allow Trump any atrocity in compensation for what was the greatest abomination they could ever imagine - the fact that a black man ever became their president with a black first lady to boot. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 3:30pm On May 22 |
basilico: Liberalism can be a mental disorder. And yet you are the biggest conspiracy theorist on this thread. |
Travel › Re: Nigerian Businessman Sold Everything And Left The Country (Before & After) by DeepSight(m): 2:59pm On May 22 |
GloriousGbola: The second picture is poorly done photoshop
And why would you be wearing white trad in UK if you are not at a naija proper function?
You will just look weird. Nothing do our outfit jaare. Its standard and international enough. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DeepSight(m): 2:55pm On May 22 |
GloriousGbola: Raum your no guy enter am ooo.
Should have followed tinubu advice Adelabu is not a much liked fellow anywhere. |
Politics › Re: Tinubu Has No Plan To Change Nigeria’s Name – Onanuga by DeepSight(m): 9:12am On May 22 |
Aleister: 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 your mouth nor good at all Which of them do you like? Will you opt for Yekinia? That one will symbolize integrity and truthfulness about idenitity. When we adopt that name and become known as Yekinians the world will stop seeing us as a 419 country. Although personally I am partial to us being Bolanians. It has a European ring to it, and can assuage our colonial mentality since we like colonially given national anthems! |
Romance › Re: Do Men Really Like Plus-Sized Women by DeepSight(m): 8:44am On May 22 |
SixSeven: I hope I've been able to confuse you and not convince you on why A is better than B   |
Politics › Re: Tinubu Has No Plan To Change Nigeria’s Name – Onanuga by DeepSight(m): 8:41am On May 22 |
Aleister: If you see this government debunk a rumor, then know that they’ve discussed about it before. He can change it to Nigerbu or Tinuburia. Or Bolania or Jagabania or Yekinia. |
Politics › Re: Tinubu Has No Plan To Change Nigeria’s Name – Onanuga by DeepSight(m): 8:40am On May 22 |
Sharia law certainly should be abolished. |
Romance › Re: Do Men Really Like Plus-Sized Women by DeepSight(m): 8:37am On May 22 |
SixSeven: I put a condition or clause before my conclusion. It's not about likes in this case. You are free to like whatever you want to. After all, one man's meat is another's poison.
About controlling his woman, political philosophers make us understand that the sources of power, authority, influence and control. You can control a woman by force or fear but your influence is zero once she is out of sight. That's weakness and insecurity. Ol' boy you have only confused me more. |
Romance › Re: Do Men Really Like Plus-Sized Women by DeepSight(m): 8:19am On May 22 |
SixSeven: What a load of trash. Not to the women but to the picture from the OP Any responsible man who tells you he likes a woman who's vulgar (1), drinks (2), cannot cover her breast and belly (1,3,4) and wants that same woman to be the mother of his children is a weak man. End of story. I struggle to see what weakness has to do with it. You could say you disagree with his values but I can't see a case for weakness. Because you are assuming the man cannot control his woman (as though women are to be controlled anyway) without knowing what the man likes. What if he likes precisely the things you condemn? |
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 6:11am On May 22 |
basilico:
Shipwreckedcrew @shipwreckedcrew • 6h BREAKING!!! The D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals has just now Ordered the convictions the Oath Keeper and Proud Boy defendants be vacated, and that the cases be remanded to the District Court in anticipation of a motion by DOJ To Dismiss.
The Appeals court knows that all violence was inspired by FBi , that Biden DOJ framed as many trump supporters as the could.
Keep up with your qanon nonsense. An insurrection that had no guns, the only dead person was killed by Michael Byrd a black cop who'd once left his gun in the washroom of a strip joint . Flat Earth basilico. No moon landing basilico. Illuminati basilico. Reptilians rule the world basilico. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 6:07am On May 22 |
basilico: I'll ramp up when Brennan and Comey are indicted in Florida. JI'll be so loud. Watch this space. QAnon Basilico |
Politics › Re: Tinubu: Fuel Subsidy, FX Cabals Behind Nigeria’s Security Crisis by DeepSight(m): 6:15pm On May 21 |
GloriousGbola, what do you make of this yarn?  |
Travel › Re: US Waives Visa Bonds For World Cup Fans From Five African Nations by DeepSight(m): 6:13pm On May 21 |
BarrElChapo: World Cup with no illegals. President Trump you be man 😂 Five time draft dodger is not a man. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 4:56pm On May 21 |
basilico: Holy cow. SPLC might have paid some of the informants who infiltrated the Jan 6 protests
Jim Jordan had subpoenad SPLC for all it's communications with the Biden administration a few weeks ago.
I keep saying what's been secret will one day be revealed. I will laugh last.
Fedsurrection. Feedthenation Lordreed Flat Earth, QAnon. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 4:29pm On May 21 |
bemeruca: No, you are just a liar Have you no shame? We have been over and over this? We quoted him verbatim, didnt we? We dont need to start again, do wee? |
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 4:17pm On May 21 |
bemeruca: Grab the lie very hard, it is like oxygen to you. Hahahahahahahahaha! Shame! You are ashamed! You deny the mans exact words! |
Travel › Re: “Completely Ruined My Mood “ – Lady Shares Encounter With Uber Driver by DeepSight(m): 3:52pm On May 21 |
JuanDeDios: No question about bolded. The real philosophical question is whether it's bad being vainglorious about something you did. I dont know about the word "bad" in this context but I would just withdraw from doing anything that seems almost self congratulatory or boastful about such "good deeds." It takes away the goodness. You know, there is this thing about doing good - it feels good. That in itself is sufficient reward. Looking for applause for it is overboard. And even though I am not Christian i subscribe to Jesus' teaching on this matter. If you publicize your good deeds you have already taken your "extra" reward. In fact you have been paid for the deed and it loses its goodness. |
Travel › Re: “Completely Ruined My Mood “ – Lady Shares Encounter With Uber Driver by DeepSight(m): 3:30pm On May 21 |
JuanDeDios: Yeah, not likely I would outside an anonymous forum. But there's always that debate whether such things should be kept to yourself or talked about to create awareness about people's experiences and encourage others to do good.
I'd respect those who choose to talk as much as I do those who don't. One can draw attention to it and encourage people to be sensitive and kind without saying, hey, here's what I did myself. And even going as far as to mention the amount. There is almost always some vainglory in it. Anonymously said, better. But as we can see this was not anonymous. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 3:05pm On May 21 |
raumdeuter: That was not what Kirk said. Haba na. Or shall we say better behaved? |
Family › Re: What's The Cost Of Getting A Divorce? by DeepSight(m): 2:59pm On May 21 |
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Travel › Re: “Completely Ruined My Mood “ – Lady Shares Encounter With Uber Driver by DeepSight(m): 2:39pm On May 21*. Modified: 3:31pm On May 21 |
JuanDeDios: Maybe they picked the story from her Insta page and decided to add some of her pictures. My attention has been drawn to that. But even at that, for me, I would not mention my "good deed." |
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 2:28pm On May 21 |
bemeruca: Why do you want slavery back? Don't you agree with Kirk that blacks were better off without equal rights again? |
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 2:25pm On May 21 |
raumdeuter: Rubber stamp
massa is coming soon to write so you can concur Shattap!  |