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Onegai:
Please calm down, can I send you information via email?

And offer counseling

Let us step back from the cliff.

Because Divorce is wonderful for lawyers looking for rent money.

2 years mandatory separation, if you want to file before then it will cost more.

N1million-N6million to file (yes, I am not joking, especially if you're in Lagos or Abuja). You will pay for extra like printing and any other documents lawyer needs.

File in High Court, she will be served a month later and your first court date will be 4 to 6 months after, just for Mentioning. After that, another month or 2 for Conference (you and your wife will go before the Judge, no lawyers allowed to speak and mediate).

Then another month or 2 after for your trial. Courts are backed up, so unless she files Uncontested, expect to spend 3 years on this matter, some people that got caught during Covid spent 10 years. Even with no kids, you fit spend 2 years if clerks go on strike and since na high court, I dunno how backed up it will be with election tribunals next year (Political Aspirants pay more so their cases will be heard faster than your inconsequential marital issues, sorry )

Are you fighting for custody? Add an additional year plus you'll pay extra for Child Welfare Officers for the mandatory house and school visit.

If you start dating, she can sue you for Adultery and sue your side chic for alienation. Upto N10million, another court case.

Court cases are open, so everyone in court that day (bloggers, other petitioners and anyone who just feels like attending) will be listening to you and her air your very dirty laundry in public. They can write about it too, mentioning your name. Not a crime.

Still interested? There's more o...


Oya please drink water, let's talk

Well over 50% of marriages are salvageable and in 5 years time you'll probably feel different.

But if we work on it now, and you give yourself to this process, in 5 years time, I pray I never see you again

Please, let's talk

Kukutente23:
You know the amusing thing? All the clowns dragging Elliot that he has spent 12 years are siding with Gbaja who spent 20 years in the House of Reps and was about to do more until he was made CoS to Tinubu
They don't reckon that as greed
That's how serfs think
Everything done by their overlords is always right and they rise against their fellow serfs in deference to the overlords

basilico:
You might want to consider how African leaders go to IMF to beg for aid, a whole entourage that books into the most expensive hotel .

Or how the host IMF / World Bank meetings in their office boardrooms. 50 foot mahogany desk with marching with wood panels, executive leather seats , 20 tea girls . Begging for aid while displaying unimaginable opulence.

That had nothing to do with climate , civil rights, etc.

TV01:
Zero questions addressed

What will Nigeria et al (most African, Arab and Asian people groups) do to shift their cultural milieu to enable full sustainable modern societies - that's all.


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DMCY:
He won’t withdraw khe ? Intimidation bawo? Lol

My friend, enter nollywood back and give us a movie titled “my sojourn into politics” Abhi “12 years as a politician”

TV01:
Realisation sets in. DeepSight does not answer questions , explain or go granular. A "prefered" hypothesis is put together, inference - no matter how skewed - is drawn and stuck too.

Counters and interlocutors are challenged in 2 main ways; derided as not scholarly or mischaracterised to claim responses are extreme (introducing words like "savage", "barbaric", and mis-ascribing positions like "black people have never achieved anything good ever".

There is no meaningful debate to be had. Not sure debate is what is sought - more like agreement or validation.

What will Nigeria et al (most African, Arab and Asian people groups) do to shift their cultural milieu to enable full sustainable modern societies - that's all.

Man traduces his own treaty, taps out of his own challenge .


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bemeruca:
My problem is with you is that you bring up history, climate, and colonialism mostly to explain failure away from internal responsibility.

But when I bring up greed, corruption, tribalism, poor leadership, disunity, and destructive culture, suddenly you say, greed is common to humanity. Of course greed is common to humanity.

That is exactly why strong institutions, accountability, values, and leadership matter.

Saying greed is common does not answer why some societies control it better than others, while others allow it to destroy public institutions.

And this your Trump deflection don tire person. If Trump is corrupt, condemn him. I that's your shtick, condemning corruption anywhere no problem.

But Trump does not explain Emefiele. Trump does not explain African leaders stealing the oil money.

Trump does not explain tribal voting. Trump does not explain why Nigeria with massive resources still cannot provide basic electricity, roads, security, or clean governance.

So yes, there are many factors. But you cannot list external factors forever and then become offended when internal failures are added to the list. Even your external factors are outdated. Colonialism helped us in many ways.

My argument is not education alone does not fix everything because I think you named only one factor.

My argument is that education, history, colonialism, and climate still do not remove responsibility from people, leaders, cultures, and institutions today.

Why can't you understand this basic thing?

brain54:
My brother just because no one refers to it as bush meat from your part...


Doesn't mean others can not call it whatever they want and eat it.


I have never eaten it myself. But if anyone decides to eat whatever they want it is their business.



The Chinese eat frogs and so many things that would make me cringe but would you tell them to not eat what they want. And does eating those things make the Chinese look bad?


Except an animal is endangered I have no problem with people eating anything they want. You should look the other way too as long as no one is forcing you to eat it with them!

IjeBos:
Riots/Protest in states around the country = Storming the seat of the US government to stop the transfer of power that has been peaceful for ~200 years and kill Senators, House Members and the Vice President.
This post. Jesus.
You sound uneducated about the US and incapable of logically reasoning.

You don't even seem to understand the basics of US culture and government.
But why would you?
Have you read or studied any of it? Have you read the Declaration of Independence, the US Constitution or even just the Bill of Rights?
Everything you write here sounds like someone who sees the US through a filter of what he thinks the US should be. The bigger problem is that you can't see to grasp that.

If you were really interested in having a discussion, you'd educate yourself so you wouldn't feel the need to be always making statements not backed by reality or false equivalencies.

IjeBos:
The problem is that they can't even say out loud what policies they agree with him on.
Is it no new wars, release Epstein files, corruption is bad, spending only on America?

There isn't any core motivating principles MAGAs have.
It's simply a personality cult.

Gotocourt:
Na their family, same village people

Gotocourt:
Ratus ratus

Meat oOoOO, chai

DeepSight:
Absolutely.

Many MAGA Cultists will not be able to tell their grandchildren that they worshipped this man. They will fall silent with the ignominy of it, because it will be too disgraceful.

LordReed:
I swear. Trump is the antithesis of almost every Christian ideal and yet just because he says I am a Christian they all throw their panties at him. This moment in history will be studied very closely in years to come.

PastorAIO:
Devourer is reserved by yhwh for those of his followers that don’t want to pay tithe.

IjeBos:
Too many people spend their lives reading and repeating Republican wingnut propaganda.

This was this thread live while the Capital was being breached.
https://www.nairaland.com/4508641/american-politics-thread-trump-47th/1848

Mostly everyone who saw it live, including me, understood the historic ramifications, that this was then first time since the US's founding, there was not a peaceful transition of power.
Given that the peaceful transition of power is a bedrock of democracy thus one of our founding principles, yes, it was/is a very very big deal.

But of course, that you read about years later, you clearly have a better understanding.
And I forgot, of course, you understand the US culture better than anyone.

GracieX3:
DEEPSIGHT, Budaatum, cococandy, Ijebos, lordreed...


I am not religious but im starting to feel like there is something demonic possessing these MAGA cultists to support whatever corrupt nonsense Trump does. Apart from that,how can someone hate their own black skin.

This fooolishness is supernatural. Even atheist me sef dey hold rosary!!

budaatum:
And should therefore be poorer, and unaccountable, and irresponsible?

Not that I'm suggesting that black Americans and people are unaccountable and irresponsible, note.

PastorAIO:
It’s the belief that history occurs in cycles rather than a linear progressive trend. The cyclical belief is that cultures/empires rise and fall and will rise again and fall again in an eternally recurring cycle. In fact everything in life undergoes this cycle, a constant death and rebirth and death and rebirth. Ad infinitum.

The linear view, which is blinkered in my opinion, posits a world that starts in the distant primitive past and develops progressively until it reaches a culmination.
This is a worldview posited by Abrahamic religions. The world starts at a point in the past, creation, and progresses to the day of final judgment where all of history culminates. There after the whole drama of history comes to an end.
This is also the paradigm of many evolutionary theorists who see life as progressing from simple forms into ever more complex forms.

As far as I can see all around me, it is the cyclical paradigm of processes that abound. All that progresses will some day fall back only to start again.
There is no final culmination. This is partly why I always evaded questions about ‘ultimate salvation’ in the past and insisted that I was only interested in how I live my life now, that the kingdom of heaven is at hand right now and it is how you live you life right now. Nothing is coming in the future that hasn’t already happened in the past. This was a point where I was at odds with many ‘Christians’ so I sought to avoid the issue.
Luckily now, I don’t identify as Christian though my beliefs remain mostly unchanged.

PastorAIO:
roaming throughout the earth, going back and forth on it.
Job 1:7

PastorAIO:
It’s the belief that history occurs in cycles rather than a linear progressive trend. The cyclical belief is that cultures/empires rise and fall and will rise again and fall again in an eternally recurring cycle. In fact everything in life undergoes this cycle, a constant death and rebirth and death and rebirth. Ad infinitum.

The linear view, which is blinkered in my opinion, posits a world that starts in the distant primitive past and develops progressively until it reaches a culmination.
This is a worldview posited by Abrahamic religions. The world starts at a point in the past, creation, and progresses to the day of final judgment where all of history culminates. There after the whole drama of history comes to an end.
This is also the paradigm of many evolutionary theorists who see life as progressing from simple forms into ever more complex forms.

As far as I can see all around me, it is the cyclical paradigm of processes that abound. All that progresses will some day fall back only to start again.
There is no final culmination. This is partly why I always evaded questions about ‘ultimate salvation’ in the past and insisted that I was only interested in how I live my life now, that the kingdom of heaven is at hand right now and it is how you live you life right now. Nothing is coming in the future that hasn’t already happened in the past. This was a point where I was at odds with many ‘Christians’ so I sought to avoid the issue.
Luckily now, I don’t identify as Christian though my beliefs remain mostly unchanged.

TV01:
The debate pivots on cultural milieu and how it will shift to drive the necessary transition to a fully-fledged, sustainable modernity. The extremity is all yours - which I cautioned against in my very first rejoinder.

I am gracious enough to allow your reverse ferret without crowing .

Godspeed


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bayelsaowei:
You are like Donald Trump.. insults don’t get to you but then when you look in the mirror it only tells you the kind of vile human being you are.

Rubbish!!!

PastorAIO:
The good ol days are still ahead of us, l’asę Edumare

tctrills:
One of the reasons Trump is president today is because he was able to boldly reject the 2020 election even when it was unpopular to do so.
And his victory has vindicated him.
In one year, he defeated 2 presidential candidates of the left.
One with debate and the other via election.
Moral of the story, do not be afraid to stick to your beliefs.
You may be prosecuted and definitely persecuted but remain steadfast because that's the only path to victory.

Trump and Mandela teach that same great lesson.

TV01:
The convo ended when you repeatedly broke terms. More pertinently when you were unable to evidence that was being done to move Nigeria et al closer to what we would expect in a modern nation state.

All you could do was refer to unrelated empires and civilisations of the past and assume that basis that Nigeria et al had to flourish in the (distant) future - just because

Further, you rightly introduced the FD concept, and were subsequently unable to show how this had measurably improved enough for Nigeria et al to progress towards full-fledged modernity.

Bemeruca amongst others has repeatedly shown you that education and even a burgeoning middle class are not enough on their own or necessarily evidence of long-term sustainability, if the cultural milieu does not radically alter.

Quite naturally, post colonialism, Nigeria et al reverted to their natal cultural mindset. That is to be expected. The question is, how many of the negative aspects can they shed and how many of the requisite morés can they adopt, to create the cultural consciousness required for the transition to fully-fledged modernity?

What mostly obtains now are colonial artefacts atop a legacy cultural consciousness. A major organ transplant gone wrong? Can it be fixed? Is there the will, the wherewithal? Evidence please.

And if you subscribe to the notion that white supremacy and racism continue to play a determinative role - which Nigeria et al are unable to surmount - why bother? Why have this discussion at all - other than to troll you of course

You haven't rested your case my learned friend, you have simply failed to make it .


TV

^{...and for what it is worth, I believe the west is now on a downward trajectory. Having lost sight of how they advanced and flourished. The question for them is can they turn it around orwhat will the pace of decline look like and where will it bottom out?}

tctrills:
And honestly, I understand that January 6th is a very sensitive topic for you but the only one our emotions should go to is Ashli Babbitt the real victim.

Not pretended victims like Alexandria occasio Cortez or merci polosky

tctrills:
He is calling for backup. Lol

As I said, I completely understand you.
The big media noise on January 6th and the way your politicians keep reminding you has trained your brain to believe it's the worst day of your life.
But that's what Fella calls zombie.

Look at the data?
Look at the level of destruction?
Then come back and let's have this discussion

tctrills:
Trump has taking more bullets than most soldiers in US history.

TV01:
...thank you and hello wherever you are.

Until anyone or any group of people are able to take a hard look at themselves in the cold harsh light of day and take unilateral and unwavering action for their own flourishing, nothing happens. How much more when you believe there are supremacists and racists looking to do you in?

I will always acknowledge the Israel' resoluteness. They continue to chart their own path to progress and prosperity whatever anyone else thinks, says or does - even the US. That's how it should be. Keep whining about deserts being sandy and the sun emanating heat . And of course water being too wet


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tctrills:
Your opinion, I have learnt not to fight you but to keep pressing you on the issues.