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GloriousGbola:
his days of free govt cash are gone

i learnt a very very hard lesson in 2011

i had been knocking obj and yardua on this platform. the gej became president and some members of teh crew did an about turn and started defending everything he did

people like anonimi do not really care. it is about is my guy is not in the seat therefore the country is bad. hopefully we will all be alive to see when a candidate of yours becomes president. hopefully i will still have enough aggression to hold your feet to the fire

Free govt cash is always there, it just depends on your proximity and access.
Stop trying to paint the corrupt Tinubu as some prudent anti-corruption CZar who has stopped waste and corruption in Nigeria as he claimed in Brazil.

GloriousGbola:
pele

hopefully you were able to stash away some money during the PDP years

those years of free govt dash are gone forever and all you are left with is gnashing your teeth on SM

You cant be serious. Free govt cash is all over the place till today.
This is what worries me about people like you.

You live in utter la la land.
How can someone of your age and schooling be saying that "those days of free govt cash are gone" when you are still living in and watching Nigeria happen?

Na wa oh.

GloriousGbola:
@deepsight

the evil that saint gej did lives on after him

GloriousGbola:
my man

you would have called out winston churchill for doing what had to be done to face hitler

they go low we speak english

BAT should have been a honest goody two shoes bleating from the sidelines at an indomitable PDP juggernaut

maybe what you yearn for are the good days of a one party state

the onus is on the opposition to get their s**t together

or everyone can get high off talking about how tinubu is devil incarnate on earth and only the anointed prophet can stop him by using the power of social media validation

Just apply the same standards to all. I cant ask you to love all equally or hate all equally. We all have our leanings. But you need to pull away from such unspeakable double standards whereby you can censure one man for a white lie and defend another for murder.

GloriousGbola:
because those of you stanning for them keep trying to rewrite the history we all lived through

gej stole the election in ekiti . it is as simple as that. a person with self awareness would not be forming statesman when seeing a scenario where his successor were not as desperate as he was

GEJ blew through our ECA WITH NO MAJOR project in his six years

buhari was a disaster, but he gave us second niger bridge and and upgraded apapa owornshoki expressway. what did gej deliver other than good times to kola aluko and co and the entrenchment security contracts for militants?

and saint GEJ fked over all the downstream oil majors when his admin devalued the naira. we were stuck with our first operating loss in our history and over 10 billion in gbese. same for the other majors.

I find you amazing. Anyway, I should not be surprised. Its just standard for the way most humans are created. Seeing the misdemeanors of others and not seeing their own atrocities.

Each line above is so potent with self deceit, desperation and hypocrisy that I dont know where to start.

Let me leave it.

Jonathan was corrupt and failed in many things, but he is a toddler beside BAT in terms of corruption.

GloriousGbola:
maybe teh question should be should we yearn for the 1 party state that OBJ had foisted upon us?


https://statehouse.gov.ng/team/bola-ahmed-tinubu/



you can loathe hate APC all you want but without BAT, Nigeria would be a glorified one party state. it is for those politicians you accuse me of denigrating to put on their big boy pants and put in the work, rather than looking for shortcuts and jumping from one platform to another

This I give to BAT. He did very well in that regard and I was happy at the time when the APC was formed.
Sadly, it has turned out to be a nightmare and by virtually every point of measurement, the PDP years were happier for all by contrast.

GloriousGbola:
former treasurer of an international oil company

Have you workd with Multinationals like that before? I have, an African one, A European one, An Asian one and an American one.
Such a job is no pathway to such wealth my friend.

former governor of the wealthiest state in nigeria

Are you suggesting something here?
Because this job too is not a pathway to such wealth unless you are corrupt.
Jakande?

or are we going for the double standard where we hyperventilate on BAT and unlook every other politician in nigeria?

i am a native of a corrupt third world country. i am not looking for a saint .

This is where your hypocrisy is unveiled. You only come out with statements like this when Bola is interrogated. For others, you apply first world standards of corporate governance, compliance and ethics

GloriousGbola:
treasurer of mobil is a short stint? ok oooo

you dislike tinubu as much as i dislike gej

it is what it is

Wait. Lets say its a long stint. Are you here trying to say that accounts for his stupendous wealth?

you do agree though that this is nothing more than recycling of an old story and it will go nowhere?

Yes. Unless something significant changes in the international equation whereat the US is determined to set him up and see him out.

GloriousGbola:
what is happening is nothing more than perpetual remixes of the same story released by sowore in 2002/3
it can get the political base excited, but that is where it ends.

While I concur that its going nowhere, how do you feel in your heart of hearts about this mystery man who you so celebrate and his background.

You are happy to denigrate people whose age, family background and names are verifiable.

Yet you worship this man whose real name is not known ("Bola" does not exist in Yoruba without a prefix or suffix), whose age is unknown, whose parents cannot be identified, who has no known class mate in primary or secondary schools, who once attended a school before it was founded, who was disowned by Deloitte, who mysteriously became one of the richest people in Africa from a short stint as an accountant with Mobil, who forfeited drug related funds in the United States, who is well known to have diverted Lagos States funds en masse through Alpha Beta, who parked bullion vans in his house on the eve of an election, who is so surrounded with fakery that Sherlock Holmes could not unravel.

How is it that an enlightened man like you can defend and worship such a decrepit and morally bankrupt character but develop an erection once you hear the letters GEJ?

Elusive001:
I don't expect you to read what I wrote because you are not of the Truth. The truth will always scare you. If you belong to the Truth, you would have always been glad to embrace it whenever you see it.

Bros whatever tickles your fancy is your concern.

Israel not only rejected CHRIST JESUS, but even crucified Him. They also persecuted Christians. But do these change the prophecy about them? Do these change the fact that what are written about them are coming to pass?

You are seeing the reality as regards Israel today. If you like, you accept it, if you like, you reject it. Neithee your position nor mine can never change the truth and the reality as regards israel.

Sit back, relax, and watch what Israel becomes.

Religion and Africans. Kai.

Elusive001:
Bros, I no get that time. Whatever was una discussion CAN NEVER CHANGE THE TRUTH, REALITY, AND PROPHECY.

My own be say that:
1) The land belong to the Jews

2) The Jews want their land back. If a man wants his property wey you hold, abeg return am.

3) Palestinians are Arabs who came from Egypt, Syria, Jordan, Morocco, etc. Let them return to their countries.

4) Muslims have 9.9 million square kilometers (3.82 million square miles), whereas Israel covers an area of about 20,770 to 22,000 square kilometers (approx. 8,000 to 8,500 square miles). Yet Muslims want to take the land of Israel. Some israeli lands are still even in Syria, jordan, andLebanon.

5) You do not force a man to share his property with someone against his will.

6) Muslims have been trying to exterminate Jews for centuries now and yet GOD has not allowed it. Does this not show them that they will never do it?

7) There are people you cannot bully out of their lands because GOD Almighty gat their back. Israel no be Plateau State, Kwara, or Benue

Since una no wan hear say GOD has restored Israel back to her land, una go hear am by force.

9) The word of GOD Almighty MUST COME TO PASS, WHETHER SATAN LIKES ITOR NOT.

I stopped reading at your first line. If you dont have time for the details of a very detailed and nuanced history, then you are not qualified to hold a worthy opinion on this matter just as with most people. You belong to the rabble who take the position that Israel are God's chosen, because you are a Christian. The same Israel who reject Christ.

Elusive001:
Go and rest bros.

Even una qur'an tell una say the land belong to Israel (Jews) still una no gree.

Una take advantage of say GOD Almighty exiled them from their land in 70 AD, una go take over their land during ina conquest in the 7th century, bah? So because GOD punished them, una think say GOD has forgotten them bah?

So which history?
That Romans exiled most Jews from their in 70 AD because of Jewish revolt?

That Romans renamed the land of Israel to Palestine in 70 AD to spite the Jews because of the enmity between Jews and Philistines?

That Philistines are from Crete, while Palestinians that came to the land in the 7th century are Arabs?

That Arabs conquered the land on the 7th century, leading to the presence of Arab muslims their?

Psalms 2:1-6 NLT
[1] Why are the nations so angry? Why do they waste their time with futile plans?
[2] The kings of the earth prepare for battle; the rulers plot together against the Lord and against his anointed one.
[3] “Let us break their chains,” they cry, “and free ourselves from slavery to God.”
[4] But the one who rules in heaven laughs. The Lord scoffs at them.
[5] Then in anger he rebukes them, terrifying them with his fierce fury.
[6] For the Lord declares, “I have placed my chosen king on the throne in Jerusalem, on my holy mountain.”



Ezekiel 11:17 NLT
[17] I, the Sovereign Lord, will gather you back from the nations where you have been scattered, and I will give you the land of Israel once again.’


Make una dey waste una time.

If you have the time start here and read through my discussion with Unbiased1 on this thread.

https://www.nairaland.com/8503521/gaza-city-razed-hamas-does/7#136560185

He supports Israel, but he is one i respect for his thoroughness.

PS - I am not Muslim

Elusive001:
Go and rest bros.

ISRAEL has been restored to her land and no demon whatsoever has the power to uproot her.

NEVER AGAIN by the grace of GOD Almighty.

Why are you guys wailing now? Why did you not consider the consequences of your misadventure on October 7th?

You have been trying to wipe Israel off the earth for decades, if not centuries, with no success. Israel grows grom strength to strength. Can you folks see that it is impossible?

Can't you muslims leave Israel alone? With the huge landmass una dey occupy and mineral resources, una still are never contented.

Make una continue to hate Jews.

As i suspected you are ignorant of the history of the matter.

Elusive001:
That na your opinion. Israel no send even the whole world sef. Israel tell you say dem dey look for PR?

Exactly. Hitler no send even the whole world sef that time.

That's the pride that goes before a fall.

But you see one thing.

Even if Israel "no send the whole world" there is one country they cannot do without. And that is the USA.

And the opinion of the American public is against them now. Two thirds of Americans want to stop supporting them.

This is important because America is a democracy and a day will come when a government will be elected in the USA that will stop supporting them.

The motto is, "NEVER AGAIN".

Too bad they are defeating that motto by doing exactly what was done to them.

Ben Bruce, always a disappointment.

FreeStuffsNG:
Hitler suddenly looks like an angel and prophet ahead of his generation.

I have said it before that Israel needs to be wary lest many people arrive at the conclusion that Hitler was onto something.

joeyswift:
Iranian freedom fighter, fighting behingvhis keyboard

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
AND A TWEET IS FROM WHERE??

GloriousGbola:
Glorious Yoruba Muslim master tribe

Recognize !!!!

You don catch me

I dont believe that of you. You are too enlightened.

ppogba:
They need reminding that the GREENLAND he threatened to annex is still there cooling off.

Dont mind the bunch of kids.

GloriousGbola:
There is a political cartoon I read many years ago where bosnians were asking gwb1 when the west would intervene in Yugoslavia like they did in Kuwait . And bush said something about their lack of oil.

The hard truth is that any govt will first focus on ensuring it secures it's cash flow over anything else.

The cash flow was not threatened in the least and anyone who thinks it was is just playing the Ostrich, the whole thing was political from start to finish and it was illegal to remove the elected government.

GloriousGbola:
Yardua who reversed sale of refineries?
Anyone who dies or is exited early in his first term will always have posterity on his side.

We saw the same with Buhari who in hindsight would have been great as a works minister but lousy as a president

I do not believe BAT has tyrannical tendencies for the simple reason that when he lost to NURTW in court, he found a way to work with them. According to you he was 100% remote controlling Lagos state govt, but LASG had to bend for tanker drivers. Whenever lastma seized a tanker parking on the road, the tanker drivers went on strike

Under saint gej when pengassan went on strike during the occupy Nigeria protests, thug for hire and current paddy of BAT orobo 1 of ijawland Asari fattykubo was sending threats to pengassan officials.

All I will say is if Tinubu was determined to win in osun he would have deployed the full security apparatus and nothing would have happened.
You forget that apc has lost multiple times before. Ekiti, Ondo. Kwara. And that time when they had to give omisore concessions in osun

What I would say tinubu does that I don't like is he can accommodate his political enemy of yesterday over his political friend of today. It happened in kwara where the belgores were in apc. Belgores were opponents to saraki. I'm the run up to 2015 saraki entered apc, so the belgores exited. And after all was said and done saraki pulled a Brutus on APC.

Same with Amaechi /Wike,though Amaechi did not do him self any favours by over aligning with team Buhari.

You pick relatively small issues to damn those you dont like while ignoring humonguous scandals on the part of BAT.
Look at your only criticism of him in bold, ever so mild and quite a non-issue.

As for this Osun election it was clear that he was ambivalent and did not mind an Adeleke victory too much. Adeleke would have been in APC if not for the resistance of others like Oyetola, Omisore and co.

GloriousGbola:
Of course it had to do with Wike and fubara. Did I say otherwise?

https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/top-news/784436-ex-rivers-hos-accuses-fubara-of-bombing-state-assembly-complex.html

Fubara and Wike are both thugs, but fubara was the governor in a state of escalating internal violence.

He did himself no favours by his initial actions which made the case against him.

Escalating internal violence where NOT ONE person was killed and yet we have the northern states and whats going on there . . . .
Come on.

Fenomenal124:
Trump no send anybody papa! Anything to make this guys head straight i support it. Mercy without measure is weakness after all.

CodeTemplar:
Strongman Donald. Ride on.

chyke4:
That's what it should be. Trump finally doing the right thing.

saintbillion:
Trump gat the balls. Not like this our grab it, snatch and runaway

OceanEye:
Gbam .. Iran don't have the power to keep the that region

samuelson06:
Don't be afraid. Iran needs to be matched with m*dness. That's the only language they understand. The US is equal to the task.

joeyswift:
But I thought keyboard warriors said Iran has the strait of Hormuz under lock. Let them come and explain.

Na by tweet dem dey take acquire new territory?
Jokers, have you not seen how many times this man flip flops. Yes today, no ten seconds later. White now, black after dinner. Up now, down in the morning.

You Trump worshippers just need to grow up.

GloriousGbola:
Dollar was under n300 when he was in office

He did not do like most elevated politicians and discard his bush wife

He would have given Nigeria it's first female president (okonjo iweala) if he had been able to squash apc

I try?

You try small. Small because you have chosen mostly soft things as opposed to the major things he should be noted for.

Seriously he was weak and corrupt. Let us acknowledge that BAT is strong and corrupt. And has tyrannical tendencies.

BAT also has scant regard for the rule of law. Both lecturer presidents had the best regard for the rule of law (Yaradua/GEJ).

There is no way on Earth posterity will judge them equally. One is gonna be judged kindly in spite of his flaws. For the other, he will live in infamy.

GloriousGbola:
An attack on a pipeline was a false flag?

In a region full of youths itching for the good old days of militancy when ateke and co got rich?

OK ooo.

So. It had nothing to do with the godfather problem twixt Wike and Fubara.

Are you for real?

Secondly, did you see video of the said attack?

GloriousGbola:
Did you read 234next stories when the paper was alive? Diezani and Chris aire?

Incidentally gej went to testify that he instructed diezani on everything she did



Ehm everybody knows won't cut this.



Nigeria runs on oil. Nigeria has been failing to meet its quotas. Nigeria has loans currently being serviced by oil. Nigerian needs money to pay soldiers, buy weapons. But tinubu should sit back and watch the fight between Wike and fubara extend to our only source of income.





https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/End_Bad_Governance_protests


From Wikipedia

Are you seruiously saying you believe the State of Emergency was declared because of that laughable false flag non-incident?
If you say so, I will be sad to say that you are not an honest discussant.

GloriousGbola:
because BAT stood up to pdp for 16 years. He fought every step of the way. He was not handed anything. He did not cry about the hand he was dealt. He played the game that pdp created. No one is going to win elections in Nigeria without a war chest.


He did far more for democracy than all these ex pdp stalwarts who had turned Nigeria to a single party country. Every other political partybwas effectively a pdp satellite party. Did you not read how Gejs admin gave falae 100 million to prosecute elections?

And if BAT was the dictator you like to claim he is, he can do like OBJ and shut down every single member of the opposition. We saw OBJ do it to Jim nwobdo of savannah bank. We saw him use EFCC to harass Mike Adenuga till he left Nigeria

That is what makes Gejs hypocrisy disgusting. An undeserving beneficiary of a political machine who did Fk-all but squander money. What infrastructure did gej build in his 6 YEARS? All he did was run through the eca creating an illusion of wealth. Something any person going through a good run can do.

You are not objective. I am. Because I can tell you many good things about BAT such as his NADECO struggle, his stance against OBJ, his raising of many quality leaders. I am sure you cant mention one good thing about GEJ which shows irrational hatred.

GloriousGbola:
Under gej/pdp there only media house doing hard reporting on corruption died a natural death - 234 next

So Channels and Arise, etc, were not.
This is truly funny.

You should not allow yourself to slide this far.
You are better than this.

under gej there was a brazen attempt to run a jan 6 . we can all remember how atahiru jega stood up to orubebe.

Lol. Orubebe's madness is now GEJ?
GEJ who remains congratulated for conceding peacefully and not even going to court?

Come on man, this is absurd. You are showing your hand in a comical way.

I will also remind you how the subsidy protests ended - with the military. that is the true face of a democrat?

Yes the military were deployed as they would be but tell me one single infraction they are accused of? Just name one.
By contrast we know what happened with EndSARS and EndBad Governance.

or militanst threatening Pengassan officals?

Now this is desperation.

also saint gej had the military lay siege to tinubus residence

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2015/02/soldiers-deployed-tinubus-lagos-home/

https://thenationonlineng.net/soldiers-lay-siege-tinubus-home-imo-govt-house/

Nothing happened.

then again i have always said GEJ was at best a weak figurehead so you can attribute all of that to his underlings as an out

I agree he was weak and also corrupt. Will you even agree that BAT is corrupt? You will say its necessary and its strategy.

Tinubu is APC but pinning end sars on him is disingenuous since at that point in time team buhari had effectively sidelined BAT, but you do you

1. Everyone knows of Tinubu's involvement in ENDSARS through the Governor who requested the military. Have you also seen the report of the Lagos State Judicial Panel of Inquiry on the matter?

2. EndBadGovernance nko?

an oil pipeline was bombed and tinubu should have folded his hands and allowed some cowboys to usher in a new age of pipeline vandalisation when nigerias income was on the line?

Declaration of a State of Emergency is within his powers, removal of the democatic government is ultra vires and illegal.
Also, why has the same not been done in all the states where terrorists are running around and killing hundreds weekly?

Stop joking abeg. Everyone knows what happened there was entirely political.

GloriousGbola:
Under gej/pdp there only media house doing hard reporting on corruption died a natural death - 234 next
under gej there was a brazen attempt to run a jan 6 . we can all remember how atahiru jega stood up to orubebe.
If you call the ekiti election freedom of opposition well . . .
I will also remind you how the subsidy protests ended - with the military. that is the true face of a democrat? or militanst threatening Pengassan officals?

also saint gej had the military lay siege to tinubus residence

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2015/02/soldiers-deployed-tinubus-lagos-home/

https://thenationonlineng.net/soldiers-lay-siege-tinubus-home-imo-govt-house/

then again i have always said GEJ was at best a weak figurehead so you can attribute all of that to his underlings as an out

Tinubu is APC but pinning end sars on him is disingenuous since at that point in time team buhari had effectively sidelined BAT, but you do you



an oil pipeline was bombed and tinubu should have folded his hands and allowed some cowboys to usher in a new age of pipeline vandalisation when nigerias income was on the line?

Before I respond to the above, note I editted my post above to add the following -

It is very rich to talk about looting of the treasury to install a pariah. Of course selective memory will cancel out the memory of anyone moving bullion vans to his house on the eve of an election. Of course selective memory will forget all the billions looted from Lagos and used to fund a pariah as president of this country. I can go on and on and cite a zillion examples - in too many cases where one may even say both and even all politicians are complicit, you would single out GEJ and turn a blind eye to BAT.

For some strange reason you seem to have a special hatred for GEJ and a special love for BAT. I hope its not a tribe/ religion thing. Because honestly there are few people who would tell you that GEJ was worse than BAT in any respect.

GloriousGbola:
the APC administrations borrowed money to fund infrastructure
your precious pdp looted money to fund elections

This says it all for me. That you can say this shows something else is at play. Because I know you are old enough and have seen enough of Nigerian history not to make this kind of statement. But its fine. I understand you.

GloriousGbola:
I know you stan for saint GEJ but he is the LAST person who should be talking like this
same for OBJ who is now forming defender of democracy

you can celebrate Adelekes victory in osun, but the truth is that if APC had gone as hard as PDP/GEJ did in 2013, the election would have been a walkover

https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/197776-how-jonathan-provided-billions-military-support-to-rig-fayose-into-office-pdp-chieftain.html



we lived through this history so i'm not sue where the deification of run of the mill nigerian politicians is coming from

With every respect sir, you are the one who has consistently deified BAT. In this country no fair minded person can even attempt to compare the democratic credentials of both, whether we speak of freedom of the democratic space, freedom of opposition, the rule of law and human rights. BAT already has a grim record with respect to all of these. We are all living witnesses to the illegal removal of a democratic government in Rivers State. We have seen how many people have been arrested for their words. Please remind me of one such case with GEJ. There were subsidy protests on a massive scale in 2012. Can you compare the government reaction to what happened with either ENDSARS or ENDBadGovernance? Please and please you are the biased one here - and abundantly so.

It is very rich to talk about looting of the treasury to install a pariah. Of course selective memory will cancel out the memory of anyone moving bullion vans to his house on the eve of an election. Of course selective memory will forget all the billions looted from Lagos and used to fund a pariah as president of this country. I can go on and on and cite a zillion examples - in too many cases where one may even say both and even all politicians are complicit, you would single out GEJ and turn a blind eye to BAT.

For some strange reason you seem to have a special hatred for GEJ and a special love for BAT. I hope its not a tribe/ religion thing. Because honestly there are few people who would tell you that GEJ was worse than BAT in any respect.

GloriousGbola:
The difference is that APC did not deploy full military might of the FG and loot the treasury to as gej did in 2013 install a political pariah in ekiti as governor

We remember very well.

Come on. APC has done the same in many instances.