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Unbiased1:
I just love Netanyahu. Israel will not make the same mistake it made in Gaza. Israel became the 6th largest weapons producer and supplier without Saudi relations, Israel is among the top 10 most innovative countries in the world, Israel has the most number of Unicorns (private companies worth at least 1 billion dollars) per capita of any country in the world, Israel is a pioneer of medical research, has produced 13 Nobel price winner of which most were in Chemistry etc. Israel achieved all these without Saudi Arabia's recognition, so Saudi Arabia can go to hell for all I care. Israel should make all possible arrangements to declare its sovereignty over all of the area as soon as possible. Jordan is the Palestinian state, if Jordan doesn't give Palestinians citizenship, then that's not my problem.

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You are too radical.
Good morning.

Kukutente23:
It's Chibok all over again
But this time they first played the raggae in Kebbi to distract before playing the blues in Niger, two states neighbours to each other
This is a well executed job
Let no one be deceived. There are no bandits anywhere. What you have is Boko Haram in its three forms: JAS, ISWap and Ansaru encircling the nation systematically while their political collaborators stylishly ensured they don't get labeled terrorists by coining the term "bandits" to cover them up!!

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Perfectly said aburo, although I don't expect you to be awake at this hour. Save being in a different time zone.

honesttalk21:
Did you get so carried away in jest you seemed to contradict yourself on sneezing?

Yawning is disliked and should be surpressed as much as possible in salat but it doesn't on its own invalidate salat.

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Ol boy how can a natural function such as yawning be disliked?

I mean for heavens sake leave doctrine and be serious.

josielewa:
THE TRUTH IS NO ONE KNOWS WHERE THEY ARE GOING AFTER DEATH. ALL LIVING ORGANISM ARE JUST AN EMBODIMENT OF ENERGY. WHERE WERE YOU BEFORE YOU WERE BIRTHED? YOU DONT KNOW, LIKEWISEYOU NOT KNOWING WHERE YOU WILL GO WHEN YOU DIE. CREATOR HAS PUT CREATION INTO AN EVERLASTING LOOP CALLED REPRODUCTION. PEOPEL KEEPDYING AND PEOPLE KEEP GIVING BIRTH ON A DAILY.

WHAT BIRTHED YOU OR CREATED YOU IS THE MIXTURE OF CODE AND ENERGY. YOUR PARENTS EXCHANGED FLUIDS AND MADE YOU, SAME WAY ANIMALS EXCHANGE FLUIDS AND BIRTH THEIR OFFSPRING. WE ARE ALL ENERGY WALKING, TALKING AND DOING GREAT THINGS. WHEN YOU DIE, YOU ENERGY IS TAKEN BACK INTO THE EARTH AND YOUR PHYSICAL AWARENESS ( THIS WORLD) IS GONE. YOU BECOME MANURE, AND YOUR ENERGY FLOWS BACK INTO THE EARTH. WE ARE BEING RECYCLED. YOUR DEAD BODY IS GIVING TO THE EARTH AS DUST, SAND, MANURE ETC, PLANTS GET ENERGY FROM YOUR DEAD AND ROTTEN BODY, HAVE YOU TRIED LEAVING A DEAD BODY IN FIELD, WHAT HAPPENS, IT ROTS AND THE ENERGY IS TAKEN BY THE EARTH AND TRANSFORMED INTO ANOTHER TYPE OF ENERGY, MAYBE NEW PLANT, MUCOUS, FUNGUS ETC..

THE QUSETION ABOUT WHERE WE GO IS ANSWERED IN THIS WRITE UP, WE ARE GOING NO WHERE, WE ONLY TRANSFORM ENERGY THROUGH THE POWER OF THE EARTH(SOIL), WE ARE ALWAYS HERE 100% OF THE TIME. DO YOU IF YOU HAVE EATEN THE ENERGY FROM ANOTHER ANIMAL OR HUMAN, THE PLANT , ANIMALS AND HUMANS ALL GET AND GIVE ENERGY TO ONE ANOTHER.

IF YOU ARE LOOKING AT IT FROM THE SPIRITUAL OR RELIGIOUS ANGLE, I WILL SAY THAT DEPENDS ON YOUR BELIEF SYSTEM. BUT AS FAR AS AM CONCERNED, IF HUMANS DIE, THEY GO NOWHERE, THEY ARE STILL A PART OF THE UNIVERSE..

WHAT MADE YOU ASK THIS QUESTION IS BECAUSE YOU HAVE A HIGHER CONSCIOUSNESS TO QUESTION THINGS, TAKE THAT AWAY AND YOU ARE NO BETTER THAN THE ANIMALS I THE FIELD, YOUR CONSCIOUSNESS IS WHAT IS BEGGING THIS QUESTION. WE ALL DONT ACTUALLY DIE, WE JUST ADD TO WHATS INTHE UNIVERSE, WE ARE GOING NOWHERE....

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The problem with your analysis is that it is limited to what happens to the body.

Alusiizizi:
No satisfactory explanation of consciousness has yet been presented, indeed, the very definition of the word is hazy at best. Personally, I prefer Dr. Roger Penroses attempt at its description. For those who don't know, Dr. Penrose is a notable theoretical Physics and a Nobel laureate(2023 prize for his theory of trapped surfaces beyond the event horizon of a black hole, thus proving that, given the current understanding of General Relativity, a singularity must form at its center). Basically, his thesis centers around the theory of computation and the Godel incompleteness theorem, which basically asserts that all mathematical systems contains axioms that cannot be proven from within aforementioned mathematical system. What this essentially implies for computation machines, whether we are talking hard code software or even the most advanced A.I, is that the product of any computing machine must directly be correlated to an input, i.e. computing machines cannot create information that was not already fed into it.

Which brings us to the problem of humans. It is a matter of fact that humans routinely create new information, and this is where Penroses theses come to play: Human minds do not obey the Godel incompleteness theorem because the source of human consciousness is not a classical system but a quantum mechanical one, in other words, human minds are actually quantum computers and not classical computers.

Now, what does all this have to do with the final destination of human consciousness? Well, we know that something called "entanglement" is the very center of all quantum processes, which means that human minds, and therefore consciousness, is entangled with the rest of the universe, so perhaps, when a human dies, his body might die but his consciousness could very well linger on.

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This is an extremely interesting intervention you have made. I read it most carefully and with some level of delight.

I have just one question.

The analysis you have made is tied to physics. It is not my personal impression that the core consciousness of man is a physical thing or something produced by the interactions of physical things. My perception is that it belongs to an entirely non physical dimension.

What is your take on that.

Much respect.

Kukutente23:
Are you at the Villa
You sound higher than your normal wavelength

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Hahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!
We need jokes to cool down abeg.

Kukutente23:
Is slavery allowed in the Islamic caliphate

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Of course.
Egalitarianism is alien to Islam.

budaatum:
All statements made on Nairaland are not personal, and are general statements that anyone can comment on. You however made it personal when you attached it to one's pant content, which in my opinion shows you have no preference for "advanced nuanced conversations on existential matters", as you claim.

That however is beside the point. Perhaps follow your own advise and don't let my opinion, or "beliefs and convictions" offend you so, since, according to you, I have no "meaning or relevance to my your life, mind or thoughts".

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I was not offended in the least. There are over 3 million people on this site. My statement is not for you personally. Get off your self absorption. So you think you are important enough for me to try to convince of anything?

Please stop wasting my time and eyesight with nursery school talk.

Good night.

budaatum:
Insisting GOD exists, as you do, is like asking me to accept the existence of your GOD, especially when you claim your GOD is the cause of the universe and reality.

Personally, I think your GOD is a figment of your imagination. And ITS effect on your libido amuses me no end.

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My statement that a source of reality (what I call GOD, necessarily exists is not for you. It's a general statement. Stop personalising it to you. You are a stranger I don't know and you have no meaning or relevance to my life, mind or thoughts, as must be the case vice versa.

I am one who prefers advanced nuanced conversations on existential matters and I am tired already of having to touch on them with you.

Make of it what you will. Your beliefs and convictions are yours alone, as mine are mine alone and same with everyone else.

Image123:
Who's that?

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What? You no longer know the God you worship?

Kukutente23:
These see bandits not boko Haram
Bandits are businessmen
Signed
North

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On a lighter note I recently thought Oloshos should be referred to as business women.

budaatum:
GOD exists for you. And to be honest, I have no problem with that, unless you are claiming your GOD must exist for me without showing me that GOD. For that would be like you telling me I have a million pounds that I have no evidence of owning.

Good evening to you too Sir.

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When have I forced ITS existence on you?

Image123:
It's not politics but you keep mentioning Tinubu and GEJ in it. Hypocr

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I am sure according to you, Saint Tinubu of Iragbiji, AKA Amoda Yekini Ogunlere has no role to play.

Kukutente23:
Bro if they divide Nigeria now, Nnamdi Kanu will become a citizen of Sakwata

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You mean a slave of the sultan?

helinues:
Bro, those people are confused seh. The Rivers state SOE, how did they react? Now they are demanding for national SOE

They mastered hypocrisy

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There was NO reason for a state of emergency in Rivers. In the states where there are clear reasons, he is not doing so because it does not profit him financially. politically or electorally.

What happened in Rivers was the disgrace of the century.

FarahAideed:
Tinubu declared state if emergency bin Rivers state 😄😄😄😄😄😄 because Fubara refused to give Wike honey

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Just imagine that!

budaatum:
That "elementary discussion on existential cosmology" might be difficult for you because it seems to affect your libido. And if that's the case, then I must agree that you should avoid me.

I myself have no libidinal issues where cosmology is concerned, so I will not be avoiding you, thank you very much.

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GOD EXISTS.
Good evening.

budaatum:
Like a "cause" that makes a river flow down a gully and not up a mountain?

Indeed the word "god" does appear to cause your erection, and you ought to avoid using it if your erection bothers you so much.

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No thanks, you certainly CANNOT tell me what words to avoid and what not to.
You never know, they might just help my libido.

Sadly it appears any elementary discussion on existential cosmology is to be avoided with you as basic words and simple analogies are a difficulty.

Weregonnalose:
Tha wordi god isa natti cause ah problem ye.

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O yah, kikikikikikiki

budaatum:
The universe must obviously have a cause, since you can't after all have nothing go bang, but calling it a god, or hiding that cause behind your erection is just plain untrue and lazy.

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Cause is all I meant.
There we go, I hope your erection is over now.

I said in my very first reply that the word "god" causes problems, but you just would not stop.

budaatum:
Why must you be so offended by my opinion that you have to presume an erection?

Your use of the words "source" or "cause", already implies you mean some sort of entity, but there's no evidence whatsoever for one, and its like claiming there's a source or entity behind a hurricane when hurricanes can be explained without placing an entity as it's "source" or "cause".

All "sources or causes", including the big bang, are mere human speculations to explain things we have limited knowledge about.

Basically, its gap filling.

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I really dont know what else to say to you. I would have tried to pacify you with another word such as "force" or "element" or others.
But it looks like your erection will only go down if one says "the nothingness" . . . .

Sorry, I dont agree with you that reality has no cause or source.
Thats all I can say.

And no, I am not offended.

budaatum:
All gods are imaginary and made up by those who wrote books or preached about them.

Not one single god referenced in my exhaustive list of dead gods ever really existed, and the fact that humans are ignorant about a universe that is billions of years old does not mean some god or entity must be behind its existence or caused a big bang.

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I dont know how to explain to you that I am not referring to any man made or man imagined god.
Maybe if I used the word "source" or "cause" your erection will go down.

Good move. Actually all schools across Northern Nigeria and the middle belt should be closed for one or two months in the first instance.
Churches should voluntarily close as well and hold online services for now.

Reduce the available targets.

budaatum:
We do not need to call "whatever is at the root of all reality" god, as that implies a god is at the root of reality, when reality itself shows thousands of gods have been at different peoples' realities at different periods in time.

Ref:
https://www.nairaland.com/4260792/graveyard-dead-gods

https://www.nairaland.com/7707569/how-gods-made

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Nah you are getting it wrong. What you are doing is like equating imaginary gods to something like whatever caused the big bang, just as an analogy.

If there is something at the root of reality, it cannot have been created by mere men who only began to exist yesterday.

Kukutente23:
I didn't ask for what it was
I'm asking for references for it.
Anything that's not from the Qur'an or the hadith is bida'ah and thus haram

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Did you know that Shaitan laughs at the faithful whenever they sneeze? And that yawning is from Shaitan? I am mentioning this since the OP says farting invalidates prayer. So maybe yawning does as well.
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Sneezing: The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) taught that sneezing is liked by Allah, and is a result of one's body being in a good state. Therefore, a person should say "Al-hamdulillah" (All praise is due to Allah) when sneezing.

The Hadith states that Shaitan is displeased (or laughs) when a person sneezes and praises Allah, because the act of sneezing and thanking Allah is a sign of good health and faith.

Yawning: The Prophet (peace be upon him) taught that yawning is from Shaitan. The recommended practice is to try and suppress a yawn as much as possible, and if one cannot, they should cover their mouth.

The Hadith states that Shaitan laughs at a person when they yawn and make a sound (or fail to cover their mouth).
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*Culled

budaatum:
What nonsense, is my opinion.

Humans created all gods in times when they didn't have the ability to research and know better, but we current humans do not have that same issue because we can read the books in which gods are created so that we may know.

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The word "God" often presents us with difficulties. I understand you are referring to the many man made ideas of God.

But I was referring to whatever is at the root of all reality by whatever name described.

cococandy:
by their logic, that would be okay

I guess

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Not only would it be okay, their souls will defend the act after they are killed.

basilico:
The media paints him as a liar so that gullible minds can think he is one. You didn't point out a lie that's so egregious , it affected a lot of people
Genocide has some central origination, you can't pinpoint how many white farmers should be exterminated to deem it a genocide.

Of course you won't bother with me ,you got no facts to buttress your arguments.
Because you think Trump is evil , I should also think the same. I don't follow media blindly. They are all out to get him. I just don't join lynch mobs .
Sorry , but I have to mention TDS has taken control of your faculties.

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DSDS has taken control of your faculties.
That I know he is the greatest liar in history has nothing to do with what the media paints.

I have wasted enough energy on one who cannot think for himself.

Nursery rhyme repeater.