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ono:
Amazing. This is new stuff. So, then, what god was it you were about in this your last post ? Olodumare or Orunmila ?

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I was referring to the Abrahamic God (Yahweh / Allah) as barbaric.

ono:
If I may ask, which Abrahamic entity do you know - can you give a name? You could be an atheist for all we know - so many of you out there.

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Yahweh and his alter ego Allah.

Kukutente23:
Did you not read that he should be in protective custody?
What does that mean if not a bobrisky styled prison

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I thought you meant a luxurious one.

ono:
I get that you can't use the right words to express yourself properly. Instead of using the word Immortal (reserved for God and Him alone), you could have used "enduring" or "sages" of their days - to better convey your points about the characters you're "trying" hard to paint.

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BS.

It is wrong to describe God as immortal, because that word bears a soft connotation of a being which could conceivably be mortal but has somehow transcended mortality. Suitable words for God would be timeless, transcendent, eternal, etc. And that would be assuming that we speak of the same entity when we refer to God - for all I know you may be referring to the barbaric Abrahamic entity which most do.

ono:
Only the great Lord God almighty is immortal. All men are finite, fleeting, limited and vain. Know this and know peace, dude!

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What a shame.
Even the analogy of characters representing eternal moulds is lost on you.

And this is the person I have been wasting my time discussing with.

There was never a chance we could be on even remotely the same wavelength.

Kukutente23:
I guess with this Kanu is going to a Bobrisky styled jail

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Not necessarily, because the reason they exempted Kuje is on account of its record of frequent jail breaks.

ono:
Dude, focus for once! Napo is dead and gone. Trump is still kicking and we are in a different century, different times. Keep watch.

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You are gravely mistaken.
All the characters in that book are immortal.

This again shows your limitations.

ono:
Aren't you mixing things up here? This discussion is about the Epstein files release. Focus on one thing at a time (something I have observed democraps and liberals generally can't do). No one subservient to anybody. Racism a different kettle of fish, leave for another day.

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"Napoleon is always right."

I hope you know what Napoleon ended up doing to Boxer after he had given his all.

ono:
Yeah yeah....OK, take feeding bottle and...rest!

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It is you who should do that given that your capacity to reason begins and ends at "Trump is doing his best" and "Trump is always right" much like the character Boxer would always say about Napoleon in George Orwell's Animal Farm.

How shameful it is to be so wholly subservient to one other man, particularly one who detests you and your kind with a racist passion.

Its sad how people just lack self respect, self worth and any sense of dignity whatsoever.

ono:
I think Raum is right. You have TDS.

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Only people who have been so brainwashed that they sing the nursery rhymes Trumpism has taught them ever mention TDS.
Its not for adults.
All people who refer to it are mentally about two or three years old.

ono:
And he's the one telling people to grow up o! You can see he's even still crawling. Yeye dey smell.

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GROW UP.
You cant even analyze anything.

raumdeuter:
The file is about to be released and yu are already making excuses that they would have cleaned Trumps name. Is that not insane?

You need to ask your doctor if TDS is covered

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Not only Trump's name. Some other powerful people and yes, that will include some high ranking Democrats.

You should consider unearthing medical files going back at least four generations.

raumdeuter:
See how silly this sounds, You know Kash an Bondi wont release anything implicating Trump yet Democrats knowing these were still screaming for the files

Now Trump has signed it, we are hearing the list has been tampered? It would be better to seek help from TDS

This assessment might help

You make it sound as if the fact that they are being released is solely Trump's doing, are you OK? Did he not try to stop it for so long and why ? ? ? ?

And no, Democrats were not the only ones demanding the release. In fact a significant part of MAGA was very upset about it and alot of his base turned on Trump for trying to backtrack on it. This is a fact.

I repeat, each time you mention TDS it shows a congenital issue.

That issue is an ancestral one.

raumdeuter:
2 days ago you were screaming that that files should be released

Trump signed it yesterday that it should be released

Now you are screaming that it has been cleaned up. What you haven't seen already.

If it has been cleaned up then the Democrats and Biden FBI who saw the uncleaned part should release their version

You see how the derangement captures you. You start thinking irrationally

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One thing you don't get is that you think anyone will be silly enough to believe that a Kash Patel and a Pam Bondi will release anything that will implicate their master. That is impossible.

And no, I wasn't screaming two days ago that files should be released. Rather I have always questioned why Trump stonewalled, backtracked, gaslighted and tried to block the release in the first place. That it's happening now after all that cannot impress any discerning watcher. It's happening at a time he had no choice and has had time to collude and clean up whatever necessary.

Only an alien will think Pat Bondi and Kash will release anything that implicates Trump. Hell will sooner freeze over.

I challenge you to show me where two days ago I was screaming for the release of the files. My complaint has always been about the entire stonewalling, gaslighting, backtracking, and obvious connivance and deliberate delay.

Kukutente23:
The bare fact is that you don't know what a militant group is

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Unbelievable.
Such sickening blinding pride.

So they were carrying out violent attacks in 2009 but somehow were not militant?

Worever rocks your boat.

raumdeuter:
This is how foolishness exhibits itself

You have been shouting they should release the files now they are releasing the files you are claiming they wont release anything damaging to Trump

If you know they wont release anything damaging to Trump then why are you screaming that they should release the files?

That above is exactly how TDS works

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If you can't see it when such long stonewalling has been done as to make it obvious that a clean up was in progress, please don't imagine that everyone else is that blind.

Each time you refer to TDS you only affirm a congenital issue.

Kukutente23:
That's your opinion not the fact

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The bare fact is that there was violence by BH in 2009.

The bare fact is that GEJ became president in 2010.

The bare fact is that your claim that BH became militant under GEJ is therefore false.

The bare fact is that the strange pride you carry around like a girls pink dress and a clowns lipstick will make you keep denying these undeniable facts which are as clear as daylight.

Kukutente23:

Why are you so bitter
Wetin the song do you

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Its a psychological sign in the early development of a dictatorship.

ono:
I learnt to not get carried away by mere words. Look at what the man said he will do and what he’s doing!

Biden wrecked Trump’s first term economic gains - for 4 years! Biden Imported million of mouths from all over the globe to invade the US and destroy the welfare system. And a host of others wrecks!

Trump is trying to fix all that now - it will take some time and patience on th part of anyone concerned/impacted. We need to all be patient. He’s just 10 or 11 months in. Give him some time. Stop all these Epstein distractions. Let the man focus!

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You need to grow up.
Good luck.

Dogalmighty17:
On top video wey all of us watch again?

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Didn't see them singing but the playing of that pernicious, demonic and satanic song was in bad taste at such an occasion.

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A much abused man whose value has only been realized after those who hounded him have shown their incompetence and sheer evil.

basilico:
Trump as far I'm concerned has been exonerated by
Ghislaine
Epstein
Virginia Giuffrey
Victims Attorney
Acosta DA in Epstein 2008 case
Bill Barr

Democrats keep hyping Trump over and over, drowning out the close Epstein friends who repeatedly visited his island. They have made it a Trump coverup while letting the abusers walk free. These people have never been questioned. For instance the Clintons are making up every excuse not to appear before the House committee, I'm not sure if they have been refered to the DOJ.
Biden didn't have to manufacture all those cases if he had s single photo of Trump with a child,or any accusation by a victim The Trump family was subpoenad and interrogated over 100 times by investigators looking to find any crime.

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I stopped reading at the bold.
Have a good day.

Kukutente23:
Hmm
I don't know where you got this from but it's totally false to say that boko haram were violent in 2003.
Funny enough just last week or so, Femi Falana was reminding people that BH were given a commissioner slot under Sherriff in 2003.

I have a lot of things to say about BH but I wouldn't want to bore you. But just read widely about it and then talk to people you know in the NE and you'll get a better view of what boko haram was and how it metamorphosed into what it is now.

If you want to understand what happened in 2009, just cast your mind to what happened with the shiites in Kaduna and Abuja under Buhari and El-Rufai. I remember I was saying it on this forum and elsewhere that the biggest mistake the govt will make then is to allow Zakzaky to die in detention.

If that happened, BH will be a child's play compared to what the result will be. This is because Shiites are present in every town in the north. Not just state capitals o but every town. They have radical elements as well who are being kept under by Zakzaky's presence. And they also have members in our security establishments even up to the ONSA and of course direct link to Iran.

I was happy that the govt also saw reason then to ensure his life was preserved. Why I'm saying this is because between 2016 and 2021 there were so many confrontations between Nigerian security and Shiites. The scores were usually unpalatable. The Shiites will sustain hundreds of casualties while the Nigerian forces will end up with probably one death or none at all sometimes. This is because the shiites are usually armed with stones and sticks while facing the firepower of the Nigerian forces.

This is the exact same thing that occurred in 2009 when BH demanded the release of their members who were detailed in various police cells across four states.

Of course they were met with brute force. Over 1000 of them died while the Nigerian forces lost I think 2 police men and a soldier. Do you know that after that incident in July-Sep 2009, no one heard of anything BH until July 2010 when they started attacking with weapons?

Now ask yourself what events occurred in Nigeria within that period. In July 2009, what BH did could be likened to a violent protest, civil disturbance or riot at worst. But in July 2010, what they carried out was a full scale militant attack and the next attack after that was on a school where hundreds of students were summarily killed. Look read up on BH and get info if you have people who have stayed long in the NE.

The summary of my point is that BH started in 2002. And they were even part of govt in 2003. From 2004-2009, they were mostly dissident islamists. From 2010 to now, they are a militant group.

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Thank you and good morning. I have many things to deal with this morning so will be brief: regardless what you say here, even the violence of BH did not start under GEJ, neither did their militancy. Have a good day aburo.

ono:
Wrong. No one is clean. But in the light of what we all are facing, and what the West in general in facing - by the onslaught from liberal minded people (notice how easy it is for the Islamists to affiliate with liberals because of their "shared" world views), Trump is doing his best.

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@ the bold.
You seriously mean you cant see all his vacuous manipulations, corrupt games and egoistic power moves for what they are, not to speak of racist policies and inclinations?

Baxilexi:
If present day Libya is anarchy to you, then northern Nigeria is a lost cause, because bandits dictate their terms to communities and governors. Gumi dictates to the president how he should lead. Politicians act unhinged, participating in open brawls.


What was gadaffi’s plan for the future of Libya?
While it wouldn’t be a stroll in the park transitioning from a dictatorship to democracy today’s Libya is more stable than Mali and Northern Nigeria.

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You still cant admit the catastrophic result of American and French intervention in Libya which seeded wild anarchy into the country and created the proliferation of small arms across the Sahel right up to Northern Nigeria and was the catalyst for the trauma in the AES countries today. If you cant make that first step, then you cant understand what I am saying.

Baxilexi:
Now you’re chasing rainbows. How many American oil companies operate presently in Libya? Libya still has the cheapest oil in Africa. You made claims about driving Nigeria to anarchy. How is Libya anarchy?

Libya’s struggles today are internal. I do not deny non-altruistic reasons for helping Nigeria, but it can be a win-win. Politicians assign oil wells and gold mines to themselves with zero impact to the populace. So if the US wishes to act as a hired gun then I’m all in for the hire.

Plus, my own theory is that they’re targeting Islamic extremist countries. Northern Nigeria shares similarities to Pakistan, Afghanistan, and other similar countries and creates an enclave for terrorists to thrive under the auspices of being religiously correct.

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You have some good points but I cant take you seriously when you ask the bold.

basilico:
As predicted, if Trump is not implicated then the whole exercise is corrupted.
Aren't democrats accusing 1000 FBI agents of meeting somewhere to strike out references to Trump.

So you think Bill Clinton visited Epstein island ? Yes or No

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The difference between me and you is that I admit to the corruption and atrocities of those democrats I support. You by contrast present Trump as being as clean as Christ.

Bendeco02:
That can be the end if Nigeria don't sit up.

It happened in Sudan

The examples you gave are all Muslim nations where many of their masses also support the doctrine. So America left them to destroy themselves

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Fair points.

Baxilexi:
Which of these countries does America control its resources?

Are you aware that the US makes no money from oil? So what do you think they went into these countries for?

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You have to understand that when these games are played they are not played for US national interest, they are played for US private commercial interests and also some level of global hold as against their real competitors.