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Baxilexi:
You seem certain about this, how is it economically or politically favorable to the US if there’s anarchy in Nigeria?

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Pls go and ask them the same question about Libya and Iraq, interestingly both oil rich countries as well.

Bendeco02:
What concern all these your examples with Nigeria case?

These countries already are their own problem. They are Muslim Nations

The case here is that America want to fight for Northern Christians against Muslims extremist.

If care is not take, they will seperate them with Muslims as different country just as it happened in Sudan.

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What do you conclude in light of your last line.

SeverusSnape:
You obviously are the jo__ker here. Go and play with your toys manufactured in the US.

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You deny the truth about Afghanistan.
So what about Libya?
Awhat about Iraq?
What about Somalia?

Look, you cant despise BAT more than I do. He is the worst leader in our history, decrepit and monstrously corrupt, without so much as a credible identity. But Trump and the US mean no good for us. They never will. Dont be naive.

BAT must be defeated at the polls. The only silver lining on this Trump thing is that it weakens BAT's chances politically. Thats all, and for that, I am pleased. However any actual intervention will be disasatrous.

Enjoy.

Baxilexi:
It’s about results and not resources. Ukraine uses it resources to buy weapons and favor, which has kept it going in the war. If Nigeria openly offers the US access to lithium, in exchange for help with ending insecurity I believe it’s a fantastic deal.
Something has to give, at the rate we are going, insecurity will not only kill lives but our economy.

A human life cannot be worth less than minerals (dirt).

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Except that the US has no interest in helping Nigeria. At best, it will exploit, weaken and send Nigeria into greater anarchy deliberately.

SeverusSnape:
Oya keep lying to yourself. They didn't lose any mission. But if that's what makes you sleep better. Continue... Even Obama had been saying they'll leave Afghanistan, Wait o. So you lots wanted IS to be there forever. Commot from my front abeg

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You are just joking.

SeverusSnape:
They defeated them, trained Afghan people to handle the country, Left the country for them, And the people saddled with the responsibility of handling the country capitulated, and the taliban took over again. I don't know if you lots were expecting US to stay there forever.

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Stop revising history. They did not leave and then the Taliban took over. They ran out in a haste while the Taliban was taking over.

They lost their twenty year mission against the Taliban and left the place in tatters and shambles.

Same story everywhere they go.

SeverusSnape:
Someone said he's coming to help fight government backed terrorists, People that have corn in their pockets said he's invading Nigeria.
Even if he does, There's nothing una go do. Nigeria that can't defeat a few thousand insurgents. Mtcheeww...

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Remind me how America defeated a few thousand insurgents in Afghanistan?

ono:
Exactly! It’s a circus show. A kind of fishing expedition to once again “Get Trump” - just like they did when Piglosi was Speaker, when SlowPoke Biden was President, when James Comey was FBI Director, when Chris Wray was FBI Director, when Jack Smith was special prosecutor, when Klinesmith “fiddled” with e-mails to “get Trump”, the FISA warrant saga, Russia Russia Russia hoax - list is endless.

But Trump na man sha. I mean, who will face all that and still get back to the White House? Miraculous!

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You sound like a kindergarten child in your naivete about politics and your rose-tinted glasses for Trump.

basilico:
Only she has the powers to redact anything

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This is the koko. No serious person expects that Bondi will release anything damaging to Trump. Of course anything that will damage him will be redacted/ censored/ blacked out. That goes without saying.

raumdeuter:
When Trump release the files today, they will find something new to cry about again

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We know they will hide anything damaging to Trump.

Not just him, for many others too, on both sides, and even people simply too powerful to be exposed who are on neither side.

We are not naive.

Double post

triplechoice:
I know this, and you're very correct about this

However, my concern here' is with the term, "hidden fact", not "hidden knowledge" derived from hidden facts.

We all know that a fact is something that exists, is verifiable and is open to investigation. I acknowledge that data about something can be hidden or suppreressd so the public remains unaware of it

But if I claim the knowledge contained in a book I wrote is derived from "hidden facts" that exist in a secret location only I can access, would you believe me or take my word for it without bothering to know about the facts?

This is the crux of the matter concerning the book,"The Mystical Life of jesus"

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Yes your point is well made.

Kukutente23:
Lol. Delusions
I have reproduced my initial reaction to the agbadeau rat. Read with pleasure and educate yourself with the bolded

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You are still wrong.
Pride.

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The first recorded violent activities by Boko Haram began in December 2003 in northern Nigeria, which initiated unrest and prompted a security force response.
​However, the group's major insurgency, marked by large-scale violence, is generally considered to have started with the July 2009 uprising. During this event, the group launched attacks on police posts and government installations, particularly in Maiduguri, Borno State, following an incident involving the alleged excessive use of force by the police. Hundreds of people were killed in the subsequent clashes with security forces.
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*Culled.

2009 was Yaradua.

Pride.
Pride.
Pride.

Kukutente23:
When was Yusuf killed?
When did Shekau start his violence. Go and get acquainted with BH timeline
Let me just tell you that BH became powerful because of active connivance of Northern elements who were not happy with Jonathan's emergence
The rest is turenchi

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Yusuf was killed during Yaradua's time and that unleashed the violence.
I keep advising you against pride.

There is no way you can say that BH started under GEJ - which is exactly what you said.

You are trying to change your statement. You did not say they became powerful under GEJ. You didnt even say they became violent under GEJ.

YOU SAID BH STARTED UNDER HIM, PLAIN AND SIMPLE.
But knowing you too well, you will find it impossible to admit being wrong.
Enjoy.

Jakumo:
The implosion and descent into anarchy seen in Libya and Afghanistan are examples of the scenario you envision, Barrister DeepSight, yet, with every news cycle, Nigerian armed forces suffer yet another defeat at the hands of what was initially a rag-tag militia, but is now metamorphosing into a regular army of invasion that could so easily be decimated by US drones, if they are given the green light.

Such a cooperative military response to the spreading Islamist terror in Nigeria is what I envision to be the lesser of two evils.

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They will intentionally foment anarchy for profiteering and state capture.

Kukutente23:
Never knew you're this ignorant
Boko haram started under obj but they had not yet radicalised and adopted violence as a means to their end
The adoption of violence started AFTER Yusuf was killed and Shekau took over. Before then, they were more or less like the shiites. Public disturbance and civil disobedience but not violence and killings. I hope you get it now

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Here we go again.

Lets assume you are right. Just look at the bold.

So why did you claim it started under Jonathan?

WizardOfNG:
Moat decent Nigerians want the killings to stop. That does not means those of us who are critical thinking will agree to jump from the frying pan into the fire because the USA has decided to use us as their pet project for whatever Machiavellian plot is now their current pursuit.

My point remains that ordinary Nigerians can do and demand more to end insecurity. Look at Sowore for example.

A likely paid agent who will organise dumb protest for the freedom of Kanu but he dare not convene Nigerians to name, shame and confront Fulanis, especially their leaders, to do the right things and stop threatening the disintegration of Nigeria.

He never tackles critical and transformational issues. Instead he focuses on populist agitation he knows ignorant Nigerians, he assumes are simpleton, can be distracted with while he gets paid and becomes more visible.

Virtually all Nigerian leaders are working self-serving angles.

Does our nation appear normal to you? If we all handled our business, why would we now be in a position to be positioning the duplicitous USA as our saviour?

Can't Nigerians demand Northerners like Atiku, El Rufai , Malami etal, always insisting they need Presidential power, be at the forefront of the battle to end Fulani terror if we mean each other well?

There is so much latitude for us to be the solutions providers for our own problem yet we are here today arguing with each other because we are too cowardly to do what is needed and now believe we must put the USA in the position of 'saviour of Nigeria'. Do we have no shame?

We are not ready. Nigeria is heading for Rwanda-style genocide if we don't understand power to change the future is in our hands and not that of Americans who don't know or understand our reality

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Somehow in all of your analysis the president of Nigeria, the person most powerfully positioned to act is either totally innocent or not to be mentioned at all.

Jakumo:
As a black man who has borne the brunt of racism, I do recognize Trump as the embodiment of KKK white supremacist hate-mongering of the most vile nature, while I also have no doubt that he is also a child molester and vindictive misogynist, whose primary motivators are money and dictatorial powers. In short, I can think of few living people who are more loathsome than Trump by any yardstick that comes to mind.

With that preface out of the way, my hopes for stability and peace in Nigerian SOARED when Trump announced that Nigeria's Islamist terror invaders might soon find themselves in the crosshairs of American drones, whose STATED objective would be to protect Nigeria's Christian population from being massacred wholesale by those Islamist hordes that are spreading their bloodthirsty campaign inexorably southward as these words are typed.

A skeptic might rightfully wonder why the ongoing genocide in Sudan, which is orders of magnitude greater in geographical spread, systematic brutality and intensity than anything Nigeria has ever seen thus far, has thus far been overlooked by Trump, while Nigeria's comparatively smaller bloodshed has become the focus of American military attention. An educated guess would be that favorable pricing for America in the purchase of Nigeria's prized Bonny Light crude oil exports is the REAL reason that Trump is focused on Nigeria while ignoring the plight of Sudan.

My contention, Wizard of NG, is that if Nigeria's military forces are currently being overwhelmed by the invading murderous Islamist forces, then any military or intelligence assistance aimed at countering that exponentially growing threat in Nigeria MUST be accepted immediately, even if that help is being offered by Lucifer himself, who, some might argue is embodied by Donald J Trump. In short, with the siege of Nigeria gathering momentum by the day, the leadership of the Nigerian federation do not have the luxury of rejecting that assistance to stem the terror tide that will engulf the entire nation IF the Nigerian military alone is left to face the invaders, as is currently the case.

If American drones can decimate the invaders one strike at a time, most citizens of Nigeria would embrace a negotiated favorable pricing regime on petroleum products for America IF American drones can join the fray and stop the madness that is threatening the very existence of the nation and her populace right now. Let the bombing begin, for that would be the far lesser of two evils. I thank you sir, for hearing me out, and taking a moment to evaluate the logic of this position I have articulated.

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History is sufficient to teach that any involvement of the USA will worsen the situation a thousandfold: probably intentionally.

Sirjamo:
You know, one of this days, some of you would need to either move on from Jonathan's 10 years old defeat or you shut up your filthy mouths if you do not have anything sensible to say.
Nigeria's presidency does not belong in Jonathan's family house. He contested an election and got beaten. Move on clown!

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Answer his question with something better than ad hominems. Did you or did you not make those platitudes when BAT was calling for Jonathan's resignation?

Kukutente23:
Did you croon all these beautiful nonsense in 2014 when your political god was calling for the resignation of the president then?

Which 4 presidents has boko haram seen by the way? It became a militant group under Jonathan with the help of opposition elements and power hungry northerners that your god teamed up with

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It started under Yaradua. That was when the founder, Yusuf was killed.

ChizzyBuna:
What Atiku couldn't do in 7 years
Lt. Yerima did it in 1 day

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And shamed Fubara.

triplechoice:
Vaxx , a neutral person has identified the fatal flaw in your entire worldview with one simple brilliant sentence:


" You don't claim a fact that is hidden"

Your lengthy reply to this, which obviously angered you like a true believer was a masterpiece of evasion, designed to confuse this fundamental point.

A fact is by definition, verifiable. It can be examined, tested, and added to the body of public knowledge. This process requires what you mock as bibliography, the system of citations and evidence that prevents us from simply making things up in , "one's head and believing" it like you often like to repeat.

A hidden fact is a contradiction in terms. It is an unverifiable claim., in fact; it's not a fact at all. It's an article of faith.

So, for this, you, Budaatum,,, is not a brave sharer of hidden truth. You mocked bibliography. A strange behaviour from someone who claimed to be wildly read and enlightened.

You used the language of sharing while being part of a structurally secretive organisation

Your statement, ",we will write what needs to be bibliographed ", is ultimate admission of this.

You place the doctrine of your group, Amorc, above the methodology of knowledge. You believe your beliefs are so true that they don't need evidence, they will simply become the evidence. This is coming from the same person, you Budaatum, who declared in the other thread, " I hate beliefs " Lol

There's no skepticism here, no science, no history, but dogma.

And your desperate convoluted defense of it, which attacks the very concept of provable facts, is the another evidence that proves me right about what I have been saying concerning your pretenses

@Deepsight, come read Buda defending Amorc "hidden facts.

@ Meedon, come see your friend budaatum defending or may be , "just quoting Amorc " like he just "quote the Bible

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All mystical orders by their very nature are rooted in what is called or seen to be hidden knowledge, and this is the real definition of the word "occult" - it refers to knowledge of the hidden.

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When one lacks class it can't be hidden. Just look at the garish decor this bush loud man has brought into the otherwise classy and understated interior of the Whitehouse.

basilico:
Some top democrats emigrated from America after Trump won.
What you call that?

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You are never serious.

raumdeuter:
TDS also makes you hallucinate and think you had a post directed at me

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You answered a post I directed at basilico and so I erroneously thought it was him saying that.
You see, TDS doesnt explain everything.
It is very childish and silly to imagine that criticism of some racist old man means anyone has some mental illness.
It is a sign that you are captured in the fantasies, mantras and nursery rhymes of Trumpism.

LordReed:
Louis Pasteur has nothing to do with what I said.

Look up Miller-Urey experiment for more details on the evidence.

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Thanks for the reference, but as you already noted, this does not appear to show that life arose from inorganic matter. It at best demonstrates the emergence of things like amino acids from certain chemical reactions and the road from there to a living thing is still light years away.

raumdeuter:
Horrible things like what

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We have been over part of this and you avoided a list I gave you even after promising to revisit it.

Besides this kind of question reminds me of that unfortunate thing, that low life which demanded proof that Tommy Robinson is racist.

raumdeuter:
More TDS on display you should form a support group on this thread for those suffering from TDS

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What a shame.
An adult talking like a two year old just because some old man is God in his eyes.

basilico:
Why is he gaslighting. What's your educated guess or theory

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Go and sit down.

basilico:
Tell me why he is gaslighting then instead of asking me
The truth will be out one day, there is more to it than meets the eye.

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Its obvious you cant even answer for what he did. Abeg go and sit down with your sad mindset.
TDS ko, TDS ni.


inutilem servum

basilico:
So how would I know?
I put out my theory that the intelligence community may be stonewalling.
I guess your theory is that Trump was involved with the Paedo, hence the gaslighting.
With TDS, the only acceptable answer is Orange Man bad.

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Only enslaved minds mention TDS. Its is childish and embarrassing.
Again, you are deflecting to the intelligence community.

Trump himself promised to release the files during his campaigns.
Trump himself started gaslighting and stonewalling and saying there is no issue and it should be forgotten, after resuming.

Answer why, or do you have DSDS?