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GloriousGbola:
A derogatory name for anyone who is not a muslim

This is a window into the actual way these conservatives think

In a world under their control, kuffar would justifiedly be second class citizens

Human rights? What human rights?

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Of course I know exactly what it means. I just wanted the chap to say it openly that non Muslims have audacity.

In short, as inferior sub humans we dare not speak when the superior race of Muslims speak.

No be so?

Codepain:
No controversy
Just stupid twitter ants that think they can dictate who Muslims bring for Islamic conference
I swear Kuffar have a lot of audacity

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And who are "Kuffar?"

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thepathoflogos:
Makes me wonder if we live in the world, or if the world lives in us.

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Hmmmmm. Powerful thought.

triplechoice:
You demand, "Evidence please!?

What evidence again?

The evidence is in your own documented behaviour which goes far beyond mere quotation.

Years ago, you advertised AMORC to recruit others. You defended the organisation passionately against its critics. And you promoted the book, "The Mystical Life of Jesus", the " Smoking gun" that confirms your affiliation with the AMORC belief system

The book, which you shared a link to download, is a core doctrinal text of the Rosicrucian Order ( AMORC) . It presents the organisation's esoteric beliefs about Jesus as hidden truth based on claims of ", secret records" that are inaccessible to historians but available only to a select few like Spencer Lewis.

Here

https://www.nairaland.com/4793988/mystical-life#72173050

Oh Buda! Thou art greatly deceived but ye don't know it yet.

A genuine atheist would simply dismiss this book as unsupported fantasy. But strangely enough, in the thread you created, you actively shared it for others to download. This was not the neutral act of quotation, but of promotion and advocacy. You were disseminating the foundational spiritual beliefs of your organisation while publicly posing as a skeptic, and an atheist

Despite all this, the simple question you have refused to answer since June 2023 is ,

Are you a member of AMORC?

Your inability to give a straight "Yes or No" for over two years, and even now after resurrecting the issue yourself, is the most telling answer of it all .


So, I ask again using your own words, What " evidence please" are you still talking about?

Who are you trying to mislead and confuse ? Your followers whom you regard as not being able to think, not me.

What's next? Will you claim to be a Christian who doesn't believe in the Bible, Jesus or God, or an IFA adherent who doesn't believe in the Orishas? Is that the absurdity you wish to present despite the mountain of evidence you are attached to AMORC.

Continue to play the ostrich. It's your cup of tea.


Your loud proclamation that you, " hate beliefs" is perfect example of moral grandstanding performance meant to position you on a pedestal of self proclaimed rationality. It's status play to make you appear uniquely enlightened.

The statement itself is nonsensical. Everyone operates on foundational beliefs, including the belief that our senses are reliable or that the scientific method is a valid tool for understanding the world. To then, " hate beliefs" is in effect to hate a fundamental component of human cognition. It's an impossible and deeply performative stance

Therefore, " hating beliefs is an emotional position, not a rational one. The sensible approach is to evaluate claims based on evidence . The word, " hate" has no place in this process. It is the language of dogma, not inquiry.


And no, you don't " hate beliefs" This is your Squealer performance, your version of the pig in George Orwell's , "Animal farm" ,, declaring , " I dislike apples myself, while hoarding them all. You do like beliefs, but your aversion is highly selective. You don't hate the beliefs found in the" Mystical Life of Jesus " , a book you promoted. You don't hate AMORC 's doctrines concerning the soul, Reincarnation or the , "Great white Brotherhood "


In short, your "I hate beliefs" declaration is no different from a scammer who says, " I hate scams" . A confidence trick designed to secure trust and gain the upper hand , all the while you are actively engaged in the very thing you claim to despise




You are attempting a classic misdirection. My accusation is not that your writing style is philosophically complex or 'contradictory.' My accusation is based on your documented actions: you have advertised for, defended, and promoted AMORC, an organization whose teachings are irreconcilable with the atheist persona you use to mock others.

You are trying to shift the focus from your demonstrable hypocrisy to a debate about whether people find you 'believable.' That is a smokescreen. The issue is your past behavior, not the perceived consistency of your current statements. Stop trying to magically make the evidence disappear and address the facts.




No, you have it wrong.. You neither made me believe in a god , nor did you ever convince me you were a genuine atheist. I identified you as an initiate of AMORC , from the very beginning, a person pretending to be an atheist. I said nothing until you decided to extend your deception to me.

Now you are attempting a classic misdirection. My accusation is not that your writing style is philosophical complex or contradictory. My accusation is based in your documented behaviour: you have advertised for , defended, and promoted AMORC, an organisation whose teachings are irreconcilable with the atheist persona you hide behind to mock others

You're trying to shift the focus from your demonstrable hypocrisy to a debate about whether people find you believable. That is a smokescreen. The issue is your past actions , not the perceived consistency of your statements. Please, stop trying to magically make the evidence disappear and address the facts.

Your decision to resurrect this issue means you have murdered sleep.

So, since you have murdered sleep, you must now face the consequences. To paraphrase Macbeth in his final desperate stand, "Lay on Macduff, And dammed be him that first cries " Hold, enough!"

I'm prepared to see this through. The evidence is laid bare. Let anyone who's following this thread judge for themselves .

I will not be be a judge in my own case, and you are incapable of being an honest one in yours .

Therefore, @ DeepSight, please be the silent judge without making your verdict public



I didn't say I want to believe you.

And you're projecting

Take your own advice and investigate the claims in the Rosicrucian texts you have shared so you stop believing nonsense .

Hmmmmmm.

Joagbaje:
Your answers are in the Bible. Youre Gods creation and you were made for a purpose . The question now is How can you trust a book?
The bible speak for itself . Just a study on the book of Daniel especiallly chapter 2 should clear every doubt about the existence of the BIG DADDY up . Because it predicted the emergence of world Super powers from the Time of Babylonian empire to date . Thousands of years Even before the Emepires emerged.

Daniel 2:38-40 (KJV)
38 And wheresoever the children of men dwell, the beasts of the field and the fowls of the heaven hath he given into thine hand, and hath made thee ruler over them all. Thou art this head of gold. 39 And after thee shall arise another kingdom inferior to thee, and another third kingdom of brass, which shall bear rule over all the earth. 40 And the fourth kingdom shall be strong as iron: forasmuch as iron breaketh in pieces and subdueth all things: and as iron that breaketh all these, shall it break in pieces and bruise. . .


What are these kingdoms
Babylon ,Medes,Persia, Greek, Rome . And the present Age of Iron and clay

Joagbaje!

Long time!

Where have you been?

Flows001:
Like I said above, you can NEVER love or care about a person more than the person's family.

The Arabs who are direct family members to the Palestinians, both in culture and in religion, sacrificed resources and blood for several decades because of them, yet they got betrayed..

There is absolutely no principle between SA and the Palestinians that can outweigh what existed between the Palestinians and their Arab brothers who currently detest them!

I wish you were South African, it would have been a pleasure seeing you complain much later.

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You still cannot identify the principle on which SA supports Palestine.

At least show you are not totally ignorant and say what it is.

Namaster:
You UNDERESTIMATE the degeneracy of the MAGA CULT while simultaneously OVERESTIMATING the moral compass of the average American.

MANY of them thinks like the Bill Mitchell guy in that screenshot.

They think it's BETTER to have PDFiles in positions of power than risk an unrest that could INCONVENIENCE them or compromise their properties.

Imagine advocating to let people who did HEINOUS things against little kids.

That should be UNFORGIVABLE!
Period.
NO excuse.

Also, the idea that the guy expects an unrest means he believes that there are a LARGE group of people who will still support the PDFiles to the extent of still fighting for them.

Point is:

Trump will NEVER resign.
And NOTHING will happen.

His supporters KNOW he's a PDFile and they love him for it.
His opponents KNOW he's a PDFile and failed to do anything about it.

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Well said.

It is true that everyone knows he is a pedo. Funny enough he never really hid it.

tiswell:
A 19yr old isn't too young to get married.

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Believe me, most people that age have a great deal to learn still.

Feldie:
Actually men don't want skills, men want you to submit and enjoy it why having the demeanor of innocence. By the time you start showing skills, all he'd be wondering will be where you learned it from and how many men you have done it with

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Innocence is never welcome in bed.

tiswell:
This small girl don dey talk too much


Men, don't marry any girl from a broken home,e get why!!!

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How about not marrying someone you are 40 years older than at a time they are still pretty much a kid?

Kukutente23:
What part of Nigeria was groundnut majorly produced?

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In the part of Nigeria called Kathmandu-Timbuktu-Warri.
Shaaaarrraaaaaaaaaappppp dia!

Kukutente23:
You don't seem to have a good knowledge of the subject

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What subject.

I tackled one issue and one issue only. The joke of a claim that groundnut was not major in Nigeria.

Go and sleep.

callthefred:
Time will tell. In all my years I have never heard this before. We all know all federal agencies can only obey the order of the federal High court. It's a primary 6 knowledge in law. Good for Justice Akintola anyways, I hope he's got his account full and he retires in peace but the damage Seyi and his co travelers will do to PDP will be insane but idiots will end up blaming Wike as usual.

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I hope you know that the Federal and State High Courts are courts of coordinate jurisdiction in terms of hierarchy and neither is superior to the other. In the matter of jurisdiction which you raise, only a higher court (Court of Appeal first) can resolve a controversy of emerging disputes on contradictory rulings between them.

Kukutente23:
Omotosho and Lifu's accounts are not full abi

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Abi oooooooooo!

Kukutente23:
No it wasn't. I explained it clearly to you and you got a vein on your forehead almost immediately

What about the second proof that shows a large gulf in export revenue between the North and the South

How do you wish that away?

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I never entered into any discussion about North and South.

Kukutente23:
But you have not been able to advance any evidence to support your claim while I have two here now
Yet you accuse me of pride? Where's the logic here?

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Even the table you presented was against you but you think you can dance around it with good boy/ bad boy claptrap.
The evidence abounds, not that its something anyone needs to specially bring evidence for. Its quite as bad as asking for evidence that there was an oil boom in this country.

I am done with this subject.

Kukutente23:
@ Deepsight

Look below for the value of imports and exports for Southern Nigeria and Northern Nigeria in the years 1908 and 1909 before amalgamation. You can see how far apart the values of export are for both protectorates.

That should tell you if North was a major revenue earner compared to south or not

You can take your time to feast and acquaint yourself with the figures while you're in the gulag you drew yourself into

I wish you peace and sedation

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I am not studying jack.
I never entered into any North vs South debate.

I have told you -

You said groundnut was not major for this country.
I said it was.

Take those two lines anywhere in the world, you can never win. Not before a school kid, and not before professors of economics.

I have advised you repeatedly against unreasonable pride. It does not make one come across as better in any regard. It rather presents a very dim view of both intellect and character.

End of.

Kukutente23:

More ignorance. Who else would a colonial country trade with if not its colonial master. It is because it was Britian that was setting the price that made groundnut have more value than cotton when in actual international trade, cotton was a more sought after commodity than groudnut. But the British preferred groundnut for their domestic needs so the North produced more groundnuts than cotton.

Cocoa is not indigenous to Africa too. It was brought by the colonial masters and it di well in the West and South which made them demand for Western farmers to leave palm oil and concentrate on cocoa production. That's why the Ondo, Ekiti, Oyo, Benin axis remain the hub of cocoa production till today.

Just to educate you, look at the row labelled Initial Reservoir. That's the initial value of the goods produced before the rigmarole of the Colonial office comes in with their marketing boards. These are the figures in pounds:

Groundnut- 448 thousands
Cocoa- 8896 thousands
Cotton- 250 thousands
Palm oil- 11457 thousands

Now regardless of how poor you are with numbers, I expect you to see clearly which has the highest and which is second from the plainly written above

I am not looking at anything.

You can't even escape on that because this goes beyond 1960.

At all events, just enjoy.

Anyone who says groundnut was not major for this country needs to have their head examined.

End of.

Kukutente23:
You should have asked for clarification and you will be appopriately tutored

The first row is the value of the goods before trading with the marketing boards

The second row is the surplus gotten after trading with the marketing board

I expect you know why so much discrepancy between the values after trading with the boards. It's the normal pre-colonial good boy gets more while bad boy gets less policy. You should be knowledgeable enough to know the good boy and the bad boy

Stop wasting time. Simply admit you goofed. By every metric on your table, groundnut is second.

Now, that's your table, not mine.

I would not produce such a silly table by the way which only refers to trade with one country, Britain.

My own premise was simple, that at 17.5 per cent of Forex as of 1960, no sane person can say groundnut was not major.

Look it's not my business, get fat on your pride.

Jeeeez.

Kukutente23:
Did you see the numbers or you just want to keep typing
Rest abeg
The average of four is 25%. 20% is still below average so it cannot be major under any guise

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Your table showed groundnut as second highest in case you didn't notice.

Kukutente23:
Oga the major earner was oil palm followed by cocoa
Groundnut was not even close to the two

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And in your haste, and in your pride, you didn't even look at the figures in your own table, which actually show groundnut as second!

Honestly, no one can teach one who thinks he knows it all.

What a shame.

Ttalk:
The argument is not about commodity it is about region contribution in the 50s and early 60s.

Why trying to fabricate your hypothesis. Your AI copy copy don fail you you now look for escape way

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I wasn't involved in the discussion on region and have not touched on it.

He said groundnut was not a major earner, I said it was. Simple.

Kukutente23:
Oga the major earner was oil palm followed by cocoa
Groundnut was not even close to the two

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What was the third?

Joker.

So the third, bringing a fifth is not major.

No one can help you.

Enjoy.

Ttalk:
Stop misusing AI.

You do crash course on how to use AI like a professional.

You don't just type a direct question to get full understanding.

Your direct question will mostly give a direct response that are not likely to be accurate

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Pls don't interfere as my angle has nothing to do with North/ South

Kukutente23:
How many commodities are there?

I thought you mentioned some search tools to help your weak knowledge. Are you sure you put them to use? Because even a secondary school student should know there were 3 major cash crops in Nigeria before oil took over

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Even with three, any one contributing a fifth can never be said not to be major!

Kukutente23:
Lol
What rule are you quoting now?

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Do I really have to explain this? Are you kidding me? Do you know how many commodities there are? And you want to say if one single commodity is bringing one fifth of your forex, that is not major?

Why is it that you cant accept it when you goof? That is silly pride. And it only makes you look worse than necessary.

Kukutente23:
So how is 17.5% a major earning? Did you fail maths in school or something? That's less than 20% which is still one-fifth

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I keep warning you about pride.

In any economy if a single commodity accounts for about one fifth of your inflows that is BEYOND major.

AustineE1:
A nation that has not been able to stand up against those committing genocide against his own people will go and do that for Palestine.
Or is Palestine blood more precious than that of Nigerian Christians!

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In international relations and diplomatic circles.

This chap doesnt look properly beaten by Nigerian standards

BlackfireX:
In Islam you can divorce a woman by saying I divorce you 3 or 4 times


Then simply take another one

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Exactly. So that limitation to four sef, na high sense.

RealLordZeus:
While I agree to your point technically although not morally possible..
Now show me another religion or civic law that limits the number of divorce a person can have

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Catholics dont even accept divorce at all!
PS: I am not Catholic, I am not religious.