₦airaland Forum

Orlandoo:
His only achievement in life is mastering the art of deception.

I think he is clearly failing in that too.

TV01:
The Jews were and have always been very conscious of maintaining their lineage, culture, traditions, customs and language. The more conservative amongst them typically marry other Jews. They are not alone in this regard. We see it amongst Asian populations in Britain. They rarely "marry out". I am not claiming there has been no inter-mingling or even dilution as you term it. Or even a population of secular Jews. But Jews they remain

Fair enough but 2000 years of wandering together with the fact that as you yourself have pointed out, you have secular Jews, you also have those who are not strictly conservative and inter marry, and many many other factors in that large expanse of time clearly must factor.

One thing you commonly touted is that Israeli Jews are are essentially of Ashkenazi stock. This is wrong. The Misrahi constitute a greater proportion of the starting population, having migrated from the surrounding middle-eastern nations. It is worth noting that diasporic Mizrahis numbered close to a million pre-state of Israel. There are now only a few thousand left outside Israel. What happened there? There are also Sephardic, Falasha and others.

Ashkenazi Jews are in the majority today. At the very minimum half of the Jewish population.

This is the reality.

Nonetheless my position is that there should be a fair sharing of the land. What occurs today is not fair.

Likewise the trope that Israel is an ethno-nationalist or Apartheid state. Again, not evidenced and not true. Israel has minorities and a 20% Arab\muslim demographic with full rights (except military conscription). Per above, no Middle-Eastern country can boast of that kind of minority representation or treatment. The "Palestinians" outside of Israel chose the side of the Arab\muslim invaders during earlier confrontations and paid the price.

Israel is incontestably an apartheid state and even the bold in yours above admits it. But no one who knows the way the West Bank is administered today can deny this. Are you familiar with whats going on there? For heavens sake they even partition and have different roads and roads Palestinians are not allowed to use, etc. What could be more apartheid?

Both Nelson Mandela and Bishop Desmond Tutu of South Africa affirmed that the practices of Israel were exactly akin to what they experienced in apartheid South Africa and this informs the historical support of South Africa for Palestine.

The fact is the the Palestinians in both the West Bank and Gaza are a caged and occupied people under the jackboot of Israel, and that is both colonization and apartheid.

tctrills:
Oga, come to think of how racist you are becoming. There is beginning to be very little difference between how you sound and how Hitler sounded about race. For someone so obsessed with race, you have become the very thing you claim to fight against.
You have become the black Hitler, talking about the dilution of race just as Hitler did. He would be very proud of you.
Hitler, like you, believed that mixing with other races would lead to decline.
In Mein Kampf, he wrote that all great cultures of the past had perished because the original creative race had become corrupted through mixing with other races.
He saw racial purity as a matter of natural law, comparing it to breeding in animals, saying that strong breeds decline when “mixed” with weaker ones.
This is what your hatred for the Jews has made you become.

I explained what I meant by dilution and I know you understood it, so stop trying to be funny. Its simply science.
I myself am mixed so rest.

Toruibestate:
That’s my community — Agadagba Igbedi, in Kolokuma Kingdom, Bayelsa State.

I am from the ancestral home of the Kolokuma Kingdom, which also serves as the ancestral home of all Ijaws. Our heritage runs deep, tracing back over 10,000 years to the very origins of the Ijaw people.

I come from the same clan as the Governor of Bayelsa State and the same family as the First Lady of Bayelsa State, Mrs. Gloria Diri.

My late father, who passed on September 5, was laid to rest on the same sacred land where the first Ijaw man once lived — because our family lands form part of that ancient island, the cradle of Ijaw civilization.

@Ditari of Ijaw

Are you sure you are not just making claims based on what your people insist on? Because aside from the town/ village cited, certainly your claim of 10, 000 years ago is more than questionable.

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The question of a single "ancestral home" for all Ijaw people is complex, as their history involves deep antiquity and multiple migrations within the Niger Delta. However, historical and oral traditions point to a few significant centers:

The Central Niger Delta: The general area of the Central Niger Delta (including what is now Bayelsa State) is widely considered to be the most ancient place of Ijaw settlement and a key dispersal point. Linguistic studies and archaeology confirm a very long presence here, dating back to at least 800 BCE.

Agadagba-bou: Oral traditions often mention Agadagba-bou, an ancient city-state located in the Central Delta (specifically in the Igbedi Creek area of Wilberforce Island in present-day Bayelsa State). This is sometimes referred to as the first ancient Ijaw city-state and a major center from which the descendants of the legendary ancestor, Ijo, dispersed between about 700 AD and 1050 AD.

The Oru People: More broadly, the Oru or (H)Oru people are identified in some historical narratives as the most ancient ancestors of the Ijaw, believed to have been an aboriginal or autochthonous people of the West African region, with deeper ancestral origins possibly tracing back to the Nile Valley and Lake Chad region before they settled the Niger Delta.

While Agadagba-bou is perhaps the closest one can get to a singular early dispersal point in the Niger Delta, the ultimate ancestral origin is often discussed in terms of the older Oru people and a much earlier migration into the Delta region.

*Culled.

Scholars also say that the Ijaw people are the descendants of the ORU. The ORU migrated from the Nile River Valley and Lake Chad region in northeastern Nigeria to the delta region of the Niger River.

This is one of the reasons tribalism is meaningless. Human migration and inter-mixture is too deep.

https://study.com/academy/lesson/ijaw-history-culture-facts-oldest-tribe-nigeria.html

symbianDON:
add Adamawa to the list. My roommate's name was Humpty

Pls tell me his surname was not Dumpty?

YoshihideSuga:
The Middle Belt and northern minorities should come second. Benue, Taraba, Plateau and Adamawa.

They've very interesting and unique names. On a first glance, one would assume they're non-Nigerians.

Some languages you will hear there will convince you that you are in Asia or some undiscovered part of the world.

oldguyman:
Are you seriously serious that people answer the bold names please?

I can confirm the Appeal-Court name. They used to call the girl Apili for short.

OneDollarSalary:
I beg don't killll me with laughter

I swear! When I read that!

TLAX:
... and who beget that Ijaw man over 10,000 years ago. Any verifiable written records or just the usual African romanticization of their past.

People just wake up and start manufcturing history because you guys didn't have enough brain power to write things down. Oral tradition has failed african people and they now fantasize about their history which in real sense would have been primitive, backward and dark.

Can you assist me with the writings of the Brits and Germans before Rome?

Toruibestate:
If there’s any tribe in Nigeria that takes the crown for having the most unusual, funny, and downright strange names, it has to be the Ijaw people — whether from Bayelsa, Delta, Rivers, Ondo, Edo, or Akwa Ibom. Especially those from the first three!

I’m from Bayelsa, and honestly, the kind of names you hear among our people will leave you laughing or wondering how they came about. You’ll meet people bearing names like Lifeboat, Emergency, Air, Zinc, and even Table. Believe it or not, I even know someone whose real name is Kitchen!

Now, if you move over to the Rivers Ijaw, especially the Bonny people, their style is purely English — names like Green, Brown, Jumbo, Hart and Fyneface. Then you have the famous surnames from Kalabari like West, Briggs, and Bob-Manuel.

Even among Ijaw politicians, the trend continues — check out names like Heneiken Lokpobiri, James Manager, and Government Ekpemupolo. Tell me which other tribe can compete with that!

But honestly, I’ve told my people before — one day, if you don’t have at least one name that shows the Ijaw in you, people might start questioning if you’re truly Ijaw.

As for me, I’m keeping the culture alive. My two children have proper Ijaw names before their “organized” English names.

My daughter: Olaere Sonia

My son: Ayakpo Richard


@Ditari of Ijaw

The funniest I ever heard was this girl named Apili. Guess what. That was the short, funkified version, because her name was Appeal-Court.

Smartwave:
It's in the hands of State Governor to do that!!!!

We all know how much, every State government got every month!

Federal Government has done it part by generating enough funds.

Let the state government make proper use of it.

This is false.

If you earn N10 when your total monthly expenses are N8.

Then you expenses shoot up to N100 by inflation, and you now earn N30.

Has your revenue increased in real terms?

CoronaVirusPro:
When Seyi talks, it’s always a comedy!

Who are those deceiving him that he is important in affairs?


This is just a kid who was opportune to have had access to Oyo state treasury, and feels he has become a force or gained relevancy.

Someone should tell this political minion the truth. As it stands today, VDM and Portable are still more politically potent than he will ever be.

I READ WHAT PEOPLE LIKE YOU WRITE HERE EVERY DAY. I DO NOT KNOW YOUR PERSONAL ECONOMIC CIRCUMSTANCES AND YOU DONT KNOW MINE. BUT AS A HUMAN BEING WOULD YOU SAY YOU ARE PLEASED THAT PRICES OF FOOD MORE THAN JUMPED IN SOME CASES TEN TIMES SINCE THIS GOVT CAME TO POWER (RICE IS AN EXAMPLE IF YOU ARGUE IT) AND HOW DO YOU THINK THE POOR HANDLE THIS? WHAT ABOUT FUEL PRICES, ELECTRICITY PRICES AND THE FACT THAT THERE IS NO COMMENSURATE INCREASE IN INCOME?

IS IT THAT YOU HAVE NO HUMAN EMPATHY FOR THE SUFFERING MASSES, OR IS IT THAT YOU ARE ONE OF THOSE WHO ARE ALIGNED FOR TRIBAL REASONS OR IS IT THAT YOU ARE PAID TO SAY WHAT YOU SAY, WHAT EXACTLY IS IT?

If the opposition don't unite, just forget it.

AMINDA:
Medicine after death. They are now trying to pacify Natasha and get her to decamp to their side. Is Yahaya Bello not enough? They can now see that she's a collusus unlike the likes of Fubara. It has to be an Igboman that takes the fall. Why not start by telling Akpabio to step down? Forget the defections, APC will implode close to the elections.

Isnt it shameful that a woman could stand her ground and a man (Fubara) could not?

CoronaVirusPro:
How do expect a giant like Nigeria to be in top 10!

What sought of watery propaganda is this? Is US or China among the top 10 fastest growing economy’s in the world?

Y’all just cook up gibberish and start selling.

So full of emotion and delusion.

Ofemannnu:
Farook will not write such this 2025 unless he is uneducated.
Economy of Nigeria has stabilized....World bank,IMF,Fitch Ratings,Poor's and Standard Ratings,Okonjo Iweala and host of other experts.

So you dont know that its wrong to ask the Wolf to regulate the Hen Coop and assess its performance?

Is this a joke?

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AndroBlaze:
The world has changed now.

Kim Kardashian had a sextape and still married and dated men of her choice.

Trudeau is currently dating a popstar.

Men nowadays don't care, I could easily see one of our idle governors taking her as a bride.... that's if Ooni will not even beat them to it lol

It could happen, it just greatly diminishes the chances and please dont compare Africa to North America.

Its a huge stigma here - in terms of proceeding to actual marriage. Anything else, will fly easily - she probably has many many big men side men already. But marriage? In this Africa will be hard. Rare will be the man that will be able to stomach the fact that the world has seen his wife knacking on video.

AndroBlaze:
With this advert/ admission, she will be married in less than a year.

Probably one Yoruba/SS demon (possibly politician ) is dusting of his traditional dress and preparing his wife for the incoming bride

That sex tape thing will still make marriage hard. At least for most respectable options.

honesttalk21:
Then to your claim that the essence of Christianity and Judaism is not submission to God that’s a misunderstanding of their very foundations. Submission to God is the golden thread running through every covenant in Scripture.

Abraham, called the friend of God, was tested precisely in his willingness to submit. Genesis 22 celebrates his readiness to obey God’s command without hesitation and that is pure submission.

Moses and the covenant at Sinai were built on the same principle. If you obey My voice and keep My covenant, then you shall be My treasured possession. (Exodus 19:5).

Even Jesus peace be upon him is portrayed in the Gospels as the perfect model of submission. Not my will, but Yours be done. (Luke 22:42). His greatness was in surrender, not self-assertion.

That’s the very spirit of Islam not a new faith, but the conscious yielding to God’s will that every true prophet embodied. A personal relationship with God doesn’t cancel submission; it completes it. Relationship without submission becomes self-will, and submission without relationship becomes empty ritual. The Qur’an unites both heartfelt devotion anchored in obedience to the One God of all prophets.

On this point you are right and my son and mentee Kukutente23 is most obviously wrong.

AMINDA:
What makes this worse is that Reno Omokri personally lobbied him, put him on a flight, hosted him and invited media houses via a press conference for him to help run a narrative on behalf of the government, only for the whole thing to blow up in his face. There's no recovering from this one. Reno believes he's been prepped as a future Vice presidential candidate not knowing that he's only being used as an attack-dog against perceived political opponents of a future and current aspirant.

Frankly I believe by now people from the presidency have told him to lay low and even stop fronting for the administration because he is embarrassing them.

Gerrard59:
Which Nigerian president has called out the persistent killing of Christians in the country? It befuddles me how everyone is quiet about the killings of Christians, yet accuse the man who calls it out.

Well, one day Sharia would be enthroned throughout the country. Maybe that is what would make everyone happy.

I fail to see the co-relation to my comment.

Kukutente23:
If you were asking a woman to become your wife and you tell her to be faithful to you so that you will be faithful to her and bless her in return. Would you term that a contract of submission?

Let us not be distracted. Look at the verses I gave you and note that they are in the nature of absolute commands of submission, obedience and servitude. In fact, they also speak of fear. That is as absolute as it gets, it is clear. You should not try to change the matter by speaking about the mere example of human marriage. That is far from these direct and absolute commands.

By the way as you know I just selected a few verses.

I know you know almost hundreds can be produced, many with terrible consequences as retribution for failing to submit and obey. You know surely, the Book of blessings and curses in Deuteronomy.

Kukutente23:
No Sir. It is very false to say Judaism and Christianity preaches submission to God. Judaism was borne out of a covenant between God and Abraham. In the covenant, the children of Israel are required to follow God's instructions and ordinance and he will in turn bless them and make them invincible, the supreme of the earth
Christianity on the other hand is a relationship that seeks to restore man to the relationship God had with Adam in the wilderness. It was a relationship of friendship and mentorship not slave-master relationship. In fact, Adam was more or less like a pet to God in the garden of Eden.
Islam's emphasis on submission is based on the belief that humans are slaves to God. This characterization totally negates both Judaism and Christianity. Abraham was God's friend. David was a man after God's heart. Moses was God's oracle whom he spoke with face to face and most importantly, Jesus is God's Son. So the idea of being slaves to God is at variance with Judaism and Christian beliefs.
Thank you

I hear you, but note I said with varying degrees of emphasis. And that is indubitable. The Islamic conception of being slaves to God is clearly an extreme. Nevertheless it is wrong to say it is completely absent in the other Abrahamic faiths to a different degree especially considering that many in those faiths are called "servants" of God. Quibbling between both words would be, for me a bit pedantic - nonetheless, leaving that aside, it is all too easy to drag up verses in both the NT and OT prescribing submission to God.

Surely you dont need me to drag them up?

Okay then, tell us how these do not clearly prescribe absolute submission -

Old Testament -

Deuteronomy 13:4:

"You shall walk after the Lord your God and fear him and keep his commandments and obey his voice, and you shall serve him and hold fast to him."

Ecclesiastes 12:13:

"The end of the matter; all has been heard. Fear God and keep his commandments, for this is the whole duty of man."

New Testament

Direct Command to Submit to God
James 4:7

"Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you."

Kukutente23:
It doesn't matter how you seek to twist it or hide under semantics. The fact remains you have driven yourself into a cul de sac
If you say Islam is not a new religion but continuation of the old that has existed from the time of Adam, then it cannot be the one being referred to as a new song in Isaiah since something "new" implies something unseen or unheard of before.

If on the other hand you say Islam is a new religion then it means the Quran was lying as it claimed Islam already existed since the time of Adam. In fact, Islam had troubles being accepted willingly by the Meccans and surrounding tribes which made it become a political religion that required full subordination of the people through violence and coercion. This is in clear contrast with Isaiah 42v3 that says "a broken reed he will not bruise nor a smoking flax quench" signifying a peaceful and gentle disposition devoid of any iota of violence or threats of violence

And in actual fact, there is nothing new about Islam in the real sense. None of its practices or beliefs were novel. The shariah law has very clear resemblance with the mosaic laws. You pray five times like the Zoroastrians and face the east like them as well. In fact, the five pillars of Islam existed before Muhammad and even the Kaaba existed before him. So pray how can Islam be a new song?

The Jews in Mecca and Medina and the surrounding regions never accepted Muhammad as a prophet try as much as he did to court them. He joined them to face Jerusalem in prayer still they rejected him. He claimed to be like one of their prophets still they denounced him. He did pilgrimage to Jerusalem still they knew him not.

Most importantly, the essence of Christianity and Judaism is not submission to God. That is a big fallacy. Christianity is a religion that looks to develop a personal relationship with God through His Son Jesus Christ. Judaism was a communal relationship with God through his covenant with Abraham. None of them preached submission to God neither was their theme about submission. Afterall, Jacob the progenitor of the Israelites fought with the Angel of God in his sleep which earned him the name Israel.

I think it's very questionable to say that any Abrahamic religion does not preach submission to God. They all obviously do albeit with differing degrees of emphasis.

youngestgrad:
I am surprised nobody on this thread actually understands why Governor Dapo Abiodun grabbed that Envelope from his Mom.

This fella does -

zoedew:
1. Dapo is Ijebu and Ijebu don’t joke with money.
2. Dapo knows how it goes that folks steal from the aged and infirm. There must have been instances when money he meant for his mum was stolen/converted by those he trusted to care for her!

Nwaikpe:
Wait first.

Don't go anywhere.

Do you know that D J Trump was originally from Gaza?

Indeed. Good afternoon.

Kukutente23:
Good!!
Since you now agree that Islam did not start in Arabia what is the base of your claim below that Isaiah was prophesying that a new religion will come from Arabia in c42. Do you now admit you were wrong all along?

Ride on my boy, your father and mentor is behind you gidigba.

Nwaikpe:
Just like the Syrian Steve Jobs Analogy shey?

Keep explaining

Good afternoon.

Nwaikpe:
ah ah?

Wetin I do again?

When did you start denying the Palestinian identity?

I simply said that the fact you presented, since it is based on no document but on the type of claim that some Tauregs from North Africa used to claim Judea and Samaria, is Palestinian. Fiam....you start talking about a dolphin talking with a workshop tool. What is even going on in people's head sef? Nigerians are really going through a lot.

Imangine sitting on your own and imagining a dolphin speaking to a worshop tool.

I created the analogy yes.
But it is beyond you.

I deliberately made it so.

By Dolphin I refer to an intelligent creature.
By anvil I refer to a dead tool.

One can't communicate with the other.
And one can't exist in the world of the other.

I am simply saying that we are worlds apart and you can't exist in my world.