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Gabrielshow24:
Thanks for your submissions. I have treated all these under physical constraints!

I am not concerned about such physical constraints, they exist and are part of the immanent subjective nature of the physical world but your actions are transeunt!

Those constraints simply prove that you are limited, not free.

MaxInDHouse:
All these are audio recordings let them just mention one Indian or Chinese who lived before Abraham's time, his wife, children, grandchildren and great grandchildren, then where actually they lived back then.
That's how to be sure of reality.

For your information these people fabricated all these stories to counter the Bible because they don't want their people to believe God's word but they've failed because right among them millions have embraced the truth found in God's word.
You can call them names now but when such ones sit to have a one on one discussion with their people they convert them to JWs because we have the truth!

The fabrication is the Bible actually.

MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ let them name people who lived back then nah!

Abi how can they tell stories but can't name the people as in the genealogy so we can know they're not lying?

Is a genealogy a map?
Or are you suggesting the actual lands didnt exist?

Maya Empire has records back to 2000BCE. Just because Europeans were not there does not mean it didnt exist.
Conquistadors noted the records and burnt most to eviscerate the cultures.

By the time Europeans arrived in Meso America, there were cities bigger and more resplendent than any in Europe!

Shang Dysnasty in China, about as long.
Xia Dynasty, as long.

I hope you are not suggesting that Chinese people for example did not exist. People who invented paper? Lol.

Conversely, the Genesis narratives, while containing historical elements, are not strictly chronological historical records in the modern sense. Much of the Bible is not history and has no archaeological proof.

Look, there are very ancient maps the curiously show America and Antartica LONG before Europeans went there.

MaxInDHouse:
Atheism is deceiving you!
Perhaps you don't know i will enlighten you.
Before you can claim that you are from a place as in ancestral background you should be able to name at least your father, grandfather and great-grandfather who lived as inhabitants of that place you claim.
So if Chinese and Indians can't mention the names of their ancestors who lived before Bible times then they lied to you!

What does this have to do with a place being the centre of the world.
Chines and Indians have literature and records of many thousands of years.

Great monuments existed in many places waaaay beyond the Abrahamic / European worlds long before the time of Abraham.

There are inexplicable cities even sunk at the bottom of the sea, by America and by Japan.

Gabrielshow24:
It's part of what plan👀, why the misinformation 🤧? How does whatsoever you wrote up there tally with my submissions?

God knowing all the possible outcomes doesn't necessarily mean that those outcomes are his will! —This is something a Christian like you should have understood 👀 not this censure you call a remark!

Let me give you this final analogy, see the world as a two sided cone with one side open! The open side serves for God's will, while the other side encapsulates us all. Decision can come from both sides, but God won't infringe on your free will, this makes our actions our own, only when God decides to do something that he influences whatsoever he needs to! How then did you know that God did this?😂 the fact he was warned is evidence to the contrary!

It's insufficient evidence to disprove free will! I don't need deepsight's approbation of your perspective! My previous remonstrations are sufficient to prove otherwise. Or shall we say because Alan Turing knew the direction the world was inclining to negated free will? That's absurd! An intelligent mind can know these things talk less of an omniscient God, He is aware of all choices and outcomes but you will choose them by yourself!

Be it in a year's time, or millions of years into the future! You will decide your outcome! 👀

Do you have the freewill to become a lizard?
Do you have the freewill to spend the next day in the Andromeda Galaxy?

Do you have the freewill to change the sequences of cause and effect?

Do you have the freewill to change the nature of your genes and the immutable consequences of same?

Do you have the freewill to change the design of the universe?

You have not even started. You have not thought through the issues. You simply want to retain the position that omniscience co-exists side by side with freewill. Anything which is known you will do by an entity that cannot be wrong, and who set in motion all creation, you are condemned to doing. A character in a book cannot change what is known by the writer of the book.

You are a mere shadow of a thought in the mind of a being you cannot comprehend.

Do you have the freewill to become God?

Kukutente23:
Unfortunately, It is you who is displaying ignorance
Wike is a member of the Federal cabinet which means he sits with the president almost every week to discuss important matters of state.
If not that Tinubu is using Wike to destabilise the opposition and enjoying the theatrics that come with it, a Minister going to the media to call upon his boss the president to do something as serious as releasing a report will earn the minister a sack.
Wike should write a memo requesting FEC to release NDDC audit report. It will be debated and a decision reached.
Wike knows Tinubu has no intention of releasing the report because Amaechi is not the only one who stands to be indicted. As a matter of fact, it was the same Wike who rose to the defence of them MD of NDDC when the senate was conducting an investigation into the affairs of NDDC. He even went and got a court order to prevent her further appearance at the committee and claimed she was being witch-hunted. Guess who was the minister in charge of NDDC then? Akpabio. Guess who was the House of Reps member whom Akpabio accused of chasing NDDC contracts? Olubunmi Tunji-Ojo present minister of interior.
So Wike is simply playing to the gallery. He's playing on the intelligence of gullible and jaundiced folks to point fingers while shielding others since he knows Nigerians are to distracted by tribal and religious prejudices and too tone deaf to demand accountability from their leaders.

Good heavens. BAT hiding a reporr just as Trump is hiding a report and you think Trump is better.

Kukutente23:
As bad as Trump may be, he is still far better than most Nigerian politicians
At least they investigated and investigated him up to his pants before they could find dirt on him. Most of your politicians even refuse to be investigated. They quickly run to court to get an injunction against being investigated or settle out of court with the corrupt agencies
If Trump is US's lowest, he's still miles better than the ones we have there

Dont deflect. You were questioning if he has been convicted of fraud. He has on many counts.
And no, his corruption is as great or greater than any Politician in the world.

So is his record of blatant racism and open sexual obscenities.

His blatant subversion of law ans desperation to cover his involvement in scandals.

This is not to speak of his advocacy for ethnic cleansing.

Kukutente23:
Kemi has never denied her roots. She's said she identifies with being Yoruba than being Nigerian. You need to know her background. Her father was a Yoruba nationalist and separatist who never believed in Nigeria. He's imbued that in her from an early age and she's seen the misery that Nigeria has become as the years roll by which further validates her father's position
Just look at Nigeria in 1999 and Nigeria today. Are we progressing or regressing? So we're going to hang her that she's wrong about citizenship? How many Nigerian women can run for political office in their husband's state in Nigeria?

1\ Do you know how diverse India is? Rishi's parents were born in Kenya and Tanzania. Did you ever hear him say a word of denigration about any of these countries? Was that because there arent a thousand negative things to say about them? Do you know the level of misery in these countries? Please stop defending the indefensible.

2/ Its one thing to move on in life. Its another thing to employ blatant lies to do so. In this case she has relied on telling lies.

3\ It is inexcusable for someone at that level to go on international TV with the most blatant lies about basic citizenship as well as show lamentable ignorance about the very subject that she is discussing.

4/ One of the worst things a person can do is be an immigrant or child of one, and make ones career about fighting immigration similar immigration.

5/ You should see clearly what this is. Its simply about trying to prove she is white. She will never be.

6/ Early in her career she kept lobbying Nigerian voters in the UK - not just Yoruba ones. So this nothing to do with Yoruba Nationalism.

Pls what is embarrassing is embarrassing.

PS: Any Nigerian is entitled contest for office anywhere in Nigeria, regardless of how likely their victory may be.

Gabrielshow24:
Nope, that's wrong! The pilot flies the plane even though he is aware of potential ready automatic systems that aid him! At least he is not the one calculating the altitude 👀 etc.., but he is the one flying the plane and when he needs to he can set it to automatic!

The same goes for the brain, the automated systems are potential ready, they do not stop. Cessation of this, leads to straight visit to heaven 😁! Thus, the fact that libet showed that the brain is potential ready doesn't negate the window of agency of choice! it doesn't!

A lot of things are potential ready. it doesn't negate exhibition of free will! Addictions are well exemplified as they are tied to the brain's inclinations towards a pleasure rewarding action!

My chess analogy doesn't fall short, in chess each position can derive from others! Karlsbad pawn structure can be gotten from a variety of openings, the order doesn't matter! Knowing all possible moves over the course of time invariably encapsulates the fact that I know the particular move(s) a person will make during a specific time! 🤦🏾‍♂️ How hard is this for one to understand? An omniscient God that sees all possible moves over the course of time can know a particular move or action as related to time!

Depending on the circumstances, I am sure that in the first 10 seconds of a game I have blitzed out 7-10moves. I am not arguing from the perspective of a man but as an omniscient God, I can definitely know what move Magnus Carlsen will play by move 40! I could make the position complex such that he will gulp up a lot his time and at the final moment(1hr 29mins x-second[s]) he makes a plain move to reach time control! Hence from God's perspective it's entirely simple but from an human perspective...Very difficult but still circumstances can be influenced to make my actions align to such!

You keep appealing to the impossible, as a man you have free will while from God's perspective, He can influence whatsoever he wills...Simple!

Oga, if someone knows exactly what you will do in 10, 000 years time, you had no choice.

MaxInDHouse:
https://www.jw.org/finder?srcid=jwlshare&wtlocale=E&prefer=lang&docid=1001070222
When did Rome became the world power?
And when did Abraham started residing in Canaan?
How many centuries is between Abraham's lifetime and Rome's conquest?

Canaan is not the centre of the world. Stop it.

LordReed:
It was not the center of the map either. Attached is an ancient Roman map of the world. Can you see where Canaan was on the map?

He doesn't even know that a land bridge existed from Russia to Alaska, and even Antarctica had been there long ago.

Probably will not guess that the only reason the map is like that is simply because it was the Europeans drawing from their point of view.

Canaan is not the centre of the world. The equator has a perfect right to that claim.

Kukutente23:
Did Trump plead guilty
Was he convicted of looting and laundering public funds

Also be careful of Defending Kemi.

She is wrong on so many points.

Trying to deny her roots and always throw Nigeria under the bus.

Did Rishi Sunak throw India under the Bus?

I know how you are, but sincerely you have to pause and reflect.

It's not cool at all.

Someone that was raised in Nigeria to Nigerian Parents.

Then says her kids can't have citizenship.

That's a very clear lie.

Kukutente23:
Did Trump plead guilty
Was he convicted of looting and laundering public funds

Shoooooooooo!

Calm down oh.

I know you will say anything to defend Trump.

Be serious and reflective.

joyfullyjoyous:
It's btw 8am n 5pm which is better than total blackout all through

So 8am to 5pm during working hours is okay.
You guys don't know anything.

badoh:
Total blackout is different from intermittent electricity supply and load shedding. Is this news meant to create sensation or to put people into panic?

Lol. Please collect your 30k and carry on.

LordReed:
This is high handedness I never thought I would see in a Federal University. Terrible.

Its shocking. Remain small they will say cover your head, cover your legs, cover your feet, cover you hands, cover your face, in fact cover your eyes.

NSNO:
Nigerians are Nigeria's problem.
They tax you, you complain.
They borrow loan, you complain.

So the development you are praying for, where is it going to come from? Will it just fall from the sky?

At least, you can see that the loans are tied to infrastructure; roads, rail and power, even ports.

Yeah like the Lagos Calabar Road destined to reach the pocket of Chagouri and Mr. President.

Gbadebo19:
And you want my contribution without acknowledging me in your thesis?
Am not arguing again. Goodbye

Gbadebo19 come back here.

Gbadebo19:
Roman destruction of Jerusalem has nothing to do with the discussion at hand. It will only take us far into irrelevant stories. Abraham from Ur are just mere biblical stories of talking snakes and talking donkeys. I am not here to tell Bible stories.
There is a reason why I am particular about the reign of Hadrian. It is because that is exactly where the story of Palestine began.

Seems you want to control the convesation on your terms. Just be specific.

I don't have the strength to argue back and forth. I want to write a proper thesis of this whole issue.

Stop playing games. Everyone knows what Hadrian did as Roman Emperor.

Gbadebo19:
If you are starting from 1948, you know nothing about history. You are too shallow for me to engage in a discussion. I am never going to be quoting Bible stories by moonight for you but hard historical facts.

P.S: Start from the reign of emperor Hadrian of the Roman empire. When you understand what fully happened then, quote me again and I may oblige you with a response. Thanks

Let's start from the Roman destruction of Jerusalem and the Jewish diaspora that followed.

Look, we can take it all the way back to Abraham from Ur of the Chaldeans if you prefer.

I am ready. Just be serious with me because it's a serious conversation. Thanks and happy Sunday.

Gbadebo19:
Wetin concern me and your fatwa. Go to Iran or Saudi and proclaim fatwa there

No no no, you can't escape.

But on a serious note, I am interested in the conversation.

Can we give it a second go?

I want to start from the creation of Israel in 1948.

Gbadebo19:
Mtcheeeeww.
Every talking point of yours were points I fed to you.
Same you who didn't know what Israel was doing in Syria, knew nothing about how Israel expanded, can't even define objectivity suddenly picks a point from what I fed you and think you can use it to win an argument.
I don't have time for back and forth.
No quote me again oo.

Gbadebo, good afternoon.

Come back here and let us discuss this matter of Israel.

Otherwise I will proclaim a fatwa

DMCY:
Don’t let your wife or husband spoil your happiness.

You can be with your wife and still meet your soulmate

You can be with your husband and still meet your heartrob


I cum in peace 🤡 😭😹

You are a very dangerous person.

Xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

emkz:
I think the question should be who would Buhari's followers look to for leadership.

I think the CPC politicians only won their seats due to the might of Muhammadu Buhari. Some of those who didn't win or did not contest did not support Tinubu in 2022/2023. They are largely weightless politically.

Now, how did Buhari win over the organic following? He was noted for his spartan lifestyle and strong commitment to his people. During his time as PTF Chairman, his records demonstrated someone who'd help the poor. They felt he fought for them and did not oppress them. They also admired his accessibility and lack of luxuries.

Among his closest apostles, they have not demonstrated the gravitas of Buharideens. The closest person to that is probably his State House Chief of Protocol (Lawal Kazaure) from Jigawa state. Another person is Mamman Daura. A third is Senator Yar'adua.

But for now, what would matter is who Buhari supported before he died. Until a proper replacement is found, those angling to impose themselves might be rejected.

Spartan lifestyle.

And yet he said Abacha never stole money.

Spartan lifestyle.

And yet he raised the hand of Gandollars.

May God help poor Nigerians with such a Spartan lifestyle.

Gabrielshow24:
Yes, you can. That's why God gave you a brain! If with your brain you can't figure out a person's possible moves then it's a stain on your education! It doesn't negate the free will of the actor.

Your argument is shallow and expects humans to be "". In certain circumstances, wisdom dictates that the actor has only one optimal option available to him/her! Still, free will is not diminished.

If something is predestined to happen, the actor has no choice. If the writer of a book has set the plot, the characters are nothing.

Your argument only works when you are thinking of one human guessing the actions of another. It breaks down when you are talking of an omniscient power who knows exactly what will happen

hopexter:
He can wear as many glasses as he pleases. Do you only wear one glasses? You lots always look for something to complain about.

Did that look like a complaint to you? Stop working overtime please. Not sure they pay you overtime.

Magnoliaa:
You really could have saved us the back and forth and all the pretence of you being good, reasonable, caring about choice and facts and empowerment and what not.


If your response to me bringing up sex trafficking is that you don't care, then it tells me nothing except the fact that you're a bad person through and through. With a dead conscience.

May the fate of those women and the misery you add to them, multiplied by five, be returned back to you 🙏🏾.


You can fuçk off now. I'm done with you.

Interesting debate you had here with Jorion. Frankly I found your take presumptuous, one sided and judgemental. I also agree with him that you are probably extremely inexperienced.

What I really could not get though was why you would try to foist your values on a stranger. You have to understand that people are different. And perhaps you think it matters to anyone that you repeatedly call them shameful. It does not. It is meaningless to most people.

Gbadebo19:
Mtcheeeeww.
Every talking point of yours were points I fed to you.
Same you who didn't know what Israel was doing in Syria, knew nothing about how Israel expanded, can't even define objectivity suddenly picks a point from what I fed you and think you can use it to win an argument.
I don't have time for back and forth.
No quote me again oo.

You can't command me young man.

It really surprised me that you would raise a point that clearly stands against your own argument.

Why would you do that?

Surely you know that invading a buffer zone is not justifiable.

Why would you try to justify it.

And oh, perhaps you didn't read properly. By back hand I raised other points than this, which you ignored.

Gbadebo19:
I don hear. You don win.
Can I go to sleep in peace now?

Its too early.

Seriously though, the world will not heal so long as people are willing to justify even the clearest wrongs.

The cycle of hatred, exploitation, violence and generations of revenge will continue.

Good night.

Gbadebo19:
Oga, stop quoting me. You don't even know how to determine objectivity, yet you want me to swallow your bullshit without evidence. No be juju be dat?

You are the one who tried to justify clear international criminality. There is no escaping it. Invading a buffer zone is international roguery. Nothing can change that.

The reason I didnt want to waste my time was clear: any one who justifies that will justify anything.