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owobokiri:
Read a lot about his father. Unfortunately, i was never around Nigeria all through his tenure. But I have never read anyone seriously talking bad about the man. That says a lot. I don't know whether this is because Nigerians have been so pulverised by their tyrannical presidents, so often that they have now lowered the bar to the minimum, or that the man was actually good. Which way, one thing that is very self evident is that until Tinubu, Nigerias presidents without any military background have proven to be more humane and people oriented in their policies when juxtaposed with the ex Generals that have messed up this democracy.

He was a real gentleman. Quiet and humane. A lecturer by calling.
As Governor of Katsina State would stroll down alone from Government House to fetch a box of cigarrettes from a mallam down the street. So I was told by someone who defintely knew closely.

Kizyte:
As Israel stop the slaughtering of innocent minorities, you no like'am?

As World Police wey dem be, abi? Well done.
We know your type. Even if Israel drops a nuclear bomb on your village fo rno reason you will defend them.

Innocent minorities are being slaughtered in Benue oh.
Dont you think we should invite Israel?

Trust the "Israel is always right" brigade to celebrate another triumph over a weak and broken opponent.

Kukutente23:
Is that not same farooq who said Tinubu's real name is Amoda Sangodele

But it is.

dederocs:
I think libel and defamation should be false, for it to be a crime,. reasonably... sounding out a suspicion or crime should not be punished criminally, the authorities first need to investigate the allegations... Nigerian police should try more to do investigations before arresting, I know some of them do in some cases, but in some cases they believe what the complainant say, arrest before investigating, it should be investigation before arrests, to preserve human rights and dignity.

The bold (you should say libel and slander, both of which are defamation) should remain civil wrongs for which the wronged person can sue.
This is the principled stand Falana SAN took on the matter of VDM.

He could have joined the bandwagon and gone after him with police. He had the money, power and influence to do so. But he specifically said he would not do so - and the reason is the same - all principled lawyers know that this should not be criminalized.

The Movement for the Defence of Arresting People for Free and Rightful Speech showing up in 5 . . . 4 . . . 3 . .. . 2 . . . 1 . . .

FreeIgboho:
Just Carpenter o! The other one celebrity bar man

Who, Chief Priest?



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Gbadebo19:
Don't mix things up.
Israel owns the golan heights where the druze are. Losing wars comes with losing land. Russia doesn't in any way own the Donbass!!!!

Secondly, after Israel won the golan heights, attacks from Syria didn't stop. The Yom Kippur war of 1973 was the height of it all. After that Yom Kippur war, Syria and Israel both agreed to a disengagement of hostilities, a ceasefire and the establishment of the UN disengagement Observer Force. That force created a buffer zone between the two countries. Mind you, the buffer zone was from the golan heights onwards, not from Israel's international border onwards.

So, it doesn't matter whether Syria agrees to it or not. What is actually paining Syria is that, you see, after the fall of Assad, Israel went ahead to seize that buffer zone too, a move that was designed to bolster its defence of the golan heights. That was a move that was premeditated because they knew what was coming. Ever since Jolani came to power, he has been mass killing several groups. First, he killed thousands of the Alawites and has now proceeded to the Druze.

You have just, in the red-bold, justified international roguery and criminality. I hope you dont belong to those who justify anything Israel does no matter how atrocious. If you are one of those, it will be pointless trying to reason with you.

Lanretoye:
Na una type full the ADC self,even to cast vote on ballot paper they will still teach una,the only thing they don’t teach you is how to shout rigging.what could be more than the punishment that makes your village or state inhabitable for you and makes you become a marauder or nomad.it is tinubu that accommodates you,gives you and your brothers free education and a working climate for you to thrive,those things Obi didn’t give.

First, learn to write properly. Your post is almost unintelligible.
Secondly, learn not to make assumptions. You dont know me, where I come from, or who I support, if any one.

HenryWilliams:
She's telling you that the Real Buhari died in 2017. The clone replaced him ..since then. She never stayed long in Aso Rock. She was never intimate with the clone..always arguing and and at logger heads.
Everything fits perfectly.

A First Lady publicly at loggerheads with her president-husband was for me the only thing that slightly could suggest any merit to the theory of a body-double. Not many people remember how openly antagonistic Aisha became to the president at a point. That is an extremely rare thing at that level of the state. Disagreements, yes, but public hostility? Very rare. Something or the other must have gone down.

Nonetheless the conspiacy theory remains a stretch, and I do not subscribe to it, to be clear.

omoredia:
We can't substitute same for same. The problem are the leaders of the party and not the party itself

They are not quite the same. BAT has become an emperor dictator and that is bad for Nigeria.

D00msDay:
This mentality of urz makes me sick. Removing this evil party should be our priority, not who becomes president or not. Is Peter Obi bigger than Nigeria?

Thank you.

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omoredia:
No dulling. But if Peter Obi is not the candidate then it is better Tinubu remains

LCling:
If Obi is the candidate then it's worth it.. because just that can guarantee any good person poor or avarage with that ticket high win chance any position senate to the least. Many places in Nigeria.

But if not Obi OYO.

Meanwhile can someone echo PO incoming 2027

Or

Congratulations Cityboy .BAT 4+4.



Congratulations

You guys are going to be the ones to eventually punish us all with four more years of BAT.

rabzy:
Generations ago, the American Indian Osage tribe was compelled to move. Not for the first time, white settlers pushed them off their land in the 1800s. They made their new home in a rocky, infertile area in northeast Oklahoma in hopes that settlers would finally leave them alone.

As it turned out, the land they had chosen was rich in oil, and in the early 20th century, members of the tribe became spectacularly wealthy. They bought cars and built mansions; they made so much oil money that the government began appointing white guardians to "help" them spend it.

And then Osage members started turning up dead.

In 1897 oil was first discovered in Osage County. The United States federal government's Department of the Interior managed leases for oil exploration and production on land owned by the Osage Nation through the Bureau of Indian Affairs and later managed royalties, paying individual allottees. As part of the process of preparing Oklahoma for statehood, the federal government allotted 657 acres (266 ha) to each Osage on the tribal rolls in 1907; thereafter, they and their legal heirs, whether Osage or not, had "headrights" to royalties in oil production, based on their allotments of lands. The headrights could be inherited by legal heirs, including non-Osage.

By 1920 the market for oil had grown dramatically and the Osage were wealthy. In 1923 alone "the tribe took in more than thirty million dollars, the equivalent today of more than four hundred million dollars."

People all across the United States read about the Osage, called "the richest nation, clan or social group of any race on earth, including the whites, man for man." Some Osage used their royalties to send their children to private schools; others bought fancy cars, clothes and jewelry, and traveled in Europe; and newspapers across the country covered their activities. Along with tens of thousands of oil workers, the oil wealth attracted many white opportunists to Osage County; as the writer Robert Allen Warrior characterized them, some were entrepreneurial, while others were criminal, seeking to separate the Osage from their wealth, by murder if necessary.

Believing the Osage would not be able to manage their new wealth, or lobbied by whites who wanted a piece of the action, by 1921 the United States Congress passed a law requiring that courts appoint guardians for each Osage of half-blood or more in ancestry, who would manage their royalties and financial affairs until they demonstrated "competency". Under the system, even minors who had less than half-Osage blood had to have guardians appointed, regardless of whether the minors had living parents. The courts appointed the guardians from local white lawyers or businessmen. The incentives for criminality were overwhelming; such guardians often maneuvered legally to steal Osage land, their headrights or royalties; others were suspected of murdering their charges to gain the headrights.

At that time, 80 lawyers were working in Pawhuska, the Osage County seat, which had 8,000 residents; the number of lawyers was said to be as great as in the state capital, which had 140,000 residents. In 1924 the Department of Interior charged two dozen guardians of Osage with corruption in the administration of their duties related to their charges, but all avoided punishment by settling out of court. They were believed to have swindled their charges out of millions of dollars. In 1929 $27 million was reported as still being held by the "Guardian System", the organization set up to protect the financial interests of 883 Osage families in Osage County.

In his new book, Killers of the Flower Moon, David Grann describes how white people in the area conspired to kill Osage members in order steal their oil wealth, which could only be passed on through inheritance. "This was a culture of complicity," he says, "and it was allowed to go on for so long because so many people were part of the plot. You had lawmen, you had prosecutors, you had the reporters who wouldn't cover it. You had oilmen who wouldn't speak out. You had morticians who would cover up the murders when they buried the body. You had doctors who helped give poison to people."

On how the conspiracy worked

What makes these crimes so sinister is that it involved marrying into families. It involved a level of calculation and a level of betraying the very people you pretended to love. And the way these murders would take place is that people would marry into the families and then begin to kill each member of the family. ... That's exactly what happened to [Osage woman Mollie Burkhart]. She had married a white man, and his uncle was the most powerful settler in the area. He was known as the King of the Osage Hills ... and he had orchestrated a very sinister plot played out over years where he directed his nephew, who had married Mollie Burkhart, to marry her so that he could then begin to kill the family members one by one and siphon off all the wealth.

On how Mollie Burkhart's family was killed

One day in 1921, her older sister disappeared and Mollie looked everywhere for her and couldn't find her. And about a week later, her body was found essentially in a ravine, decomposed. She'd been shot in the back of the head.

Then just a few weeks later, Mollie's mother began to grow increasingly sick. She seemed to be almost disappearing, withering in front of her. And within two months she, too, had died. And evidence later suggested that she had been secretly poisoned.

Not long after that, Mollie was sleeping in her bed in her house with her white husband; they had a couple children. And she heard a loud explosion. She got up in panic and terror. ... She had another sister who lived not far away, and in the area where her sister's house was she could see almost this orange fire ball rising into the sky. It almost looked as if the sun had burst into the night. And her sister's house had been blown up killing that sister as well as her sister's husband and a servant who lived in that house.

On how far the conspirators went to cover up their crimes

Almost anyone who tried to investigate the killings — or at least stop them in the area — they, too, were killed. One attorney tried to gather evidence and one day he was thrown off a speeding train and all the evidence that he had gathered had disappeared. Another time, an oilman had traveled to Washington, D.C., to try to get help. ... He checked into a boarding house in Washington, D.C. ... He was then found the next day stripped naked. He had been stabbed more than 20 times; his head had been beaten in. The Washington Post at the time said what everyone at that point knew, which was there was a conspiracy to kill rich Indians.

On how authorities reacted to the deaths

It's really important to understand back then that there was so much lawlessness. That was one of the things that shocked me when I began researching the story, that even in the 1920s much of America remained a country that was not fully rooted in its laws. Its legal institutions were very fragile; there was enormous corruption, particularly in this era and in this area. And the conspirators were able to pay off lawmen, they were able to pay off prosecutors. There was so much prejudice that these crimes were neglected.

Mollie Burkhart beseeched the authorities to try to investigate, to get help, but because of prejudice they often ignored the crimes. And she issued money for a reward, she hired private investigators, but the crimes for years remained unsolved, and the body count continued to increase. By 1924 there were at least 24 murders alone. ...

Finally, the Osage, in desperation, they issued a resolution, a tribal resolution, beseeching the federal authorities to help. And finally a then-very obscure branch of the Justice Department intervened. It was known as the Bureau of Investigation and it was what ... would later be renamed the FBI.

On the FBI's investigation

J. Edgar Hoover ... was the new director, and it became one of the FBI's first major homicide cases that it ever dealt with. ... The bureau initially badly bungled the case. ... [Hoover] turned the case over to a frontier lawman at the time who finally put together an undercover team that included ... probably the only American Indian agent in the bureau at the time. They went undercover. ... They were able, through some dogged investigation and at great danger, to eventually capture some of the ringleaders. And those ringleaders included not only Mollie Burkhart's husband, it also included [his] uncle, a man who was seen as this great protector of the community.

On what the FBI missed in their investigation

The bureau was so anxious to wrap up the case that they ignored many, many other unsolved crimes and many, many other killers. ... When you begin to look at the documents and you begin to collect the evidence from the Osage, it becomes abundantly apparent. ...

I pulled some of the guardian papers and there was this little booklet that came out. It had a little fabric cover. All it was was essentially identifying the name of a guardian and which Osage they were in charge of. And when I opened up the book, I could see the name of the guardian and when I began to look at the names of the Osage under them I could see written next to many of them simply the word "Dead. Dead. Dead." It was almost like a ledger; it was like this forensic, bureaucratic accounting.

But when you're looking at it, you're beginning to realize you're looking at hints of a systematic murder campaign, because there's no way all these people died in a span of just a couple years. It defied any natural death rate. The Osage were wealthy, they had good doctors. ... And then when you begin to look into each of those individual cases, you start to find trails of evidence suggesting poisonings, a murder. You start to try to trace the money ... and where the wealth went. And what you begin to discover is something even more horrifying than the bureau ever exposed.

GRANN: He did. They went to an old frontier lawman to help take over the case and they did a good job. But Hoover was desperate to wrap up the case. The Bureau missed a deeper and darker conspiracy that remained unsolved. And I think that's very important to understand.

INSKEEP: How do you know that?

GRANN: Well, many of the Osage began to point me in directions to other unsolved cases within their families going back. What this story really is about - it's not about a story of who did it. It's a story about who didn't do it. When I went to the National Archives in Texas, there was this little booklet. It had a little fabric cover. It - all it was was essentially identifying the name of a guardian and who - which Osage they were in charge of.

And when I began to look at the names of the Osage under them, I could see written next to many of them simply the word dead, dead, dead. You're beginning to realize you're looking at hints of a systematic murder campaign because there's no way all these people died in a span of just a couple years that defied any natural death rate.

And then when you begin to look into each of those individual case, you start to find trails of evidence of suggesting poisonings, a murder. You start to try to trace the money and where the wealth went. What you begin to discover is something even more horrifying than the Bureau ever exposed.

INSKEEP: When you've been poking around in this and revealing this information about a bunch of people's ancestors, what have people said to you?

GRANN: So one of the things that you realize when you spend time in Osage County is that the descendants of both the victims and descendants of the murderers still live there. They often live down the street from each other. And one Osage woman told me we try not to hold them accountable for what their ancestors did. Part of that is the story of America, this intertwining and this kind of reckoning with this original sin that is part of our formation of a country.

And I would say this, I spoke with some of the descendants of the husband of Mollie Burkhart and the uncle who was one of the masterminds of the plot. And they were remarkably candid. And after I finished the book, I received a note from one of the descendants who said, I'm so ashamed that this is part of our history. And please, if you see the Osage, will you please tell them that?


Note from me: A nation always need to heal....everyone, no thats not possible, enough people must own up and enough people must say never again.

How white people have devoured this world ehn.

fxexperts:
You are right, so why then will he be happy with lazy poor people. Or you don't know that 90% of people who are poor are actually very lazy and do not want to work to improve their situation. Or don't you think that David Ibiyeoma was just trying to motivate his members to let go of their laziness.

You obviously know nothing of most poor people.

rabzy:
Where did you get this stats, you obviously don't know poor people. The poorest of the world are often the hardest workers. Go to construction sites, go to the markets, go any major bus stops at 4am 5am and see the poor labouring away from dawn to dusk just to have meagre earnings, go to the villages and see farmers breaking their backs to grow few crops.

You obviously don't know the poor at all

He doesnt.

I thought Atiku had been derobed as Waziri Adamawa?

adamkkk:
do u know d meaning of antisemitic ?

He put the word in quotation marks - that suggests he is using the word in the sense that these are the people who always shout that everyone who criticizes them is antisemitic.

When you see words put in quotation marks like that, pause.

Gbadebo19:
Syria lost the golan heights to Israel during the Arab vs Israel six day war in 1967.
In Syria, the Druze community is concentrated around three main provinces close to the Israeli-occupied Golan Heights in the south of the country.
Israel has always requested a demilitarized zone to protect the golan heights.

Has such a demilitarized zone been agreed between both states?

As to the question of protecting the Druze minority -

I hope you know that is exactly the kind of excuse that Putin used to invade Ukraine?
I hope you know Hitler used the same excuse to invade Chechkoslovakia as it then was?

How would you feel if Benin Republic invades Lagos to protect their Yoruba people from persecution in Nigeria.

Flows001:
In other words, you support the massacre of Syrian Druze and nobody should say anything or help them while hundreds of them get helplessly massacred by Syrian Government Forces abi??
Over hundred were massacred in just one day, imagine what would have happened if ISRAEL hadn't stepped in..

When did Israel become world police?
Why are you not asking for UN intervention instead?

Israel is simply an aggressor in the Middle-East, stop defending it.

MadamExcellency:
Druze in Israel have been protesting since yesterday for the Israeli government to save their people in Syria from Joolani's genocidal squad.

I hope you know that is exactly the kind of excuse that Putin used to invade Ukraine?
I hope you know Hitler used the same excuse to invade Chechkoslovakia as it then was?

How would you feel if Benin Republic invades Lagos to protect their Yoruba people from persecution in Nigeria.

Gbadebo19:
You are the ones bringing religion into the matter.
History lessons are free on the Internet. If you choose Nairaland Propaganda, it's your loss.

What business does Israel have in Syria. Answer the questions and stop defending these people forever!

obembet:
When Israel attack other countries, it's normal but when those countries fight back, we call them terrorists

Isnt it just crazy?

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Botragelad:
Jolani had better call back his soldiers or face elimination himself.

For those who haven’t heard, the new Syrian regime has been slaughtering Druzes in Sweida, even desecrating them by forcibly shaving their mustaches (a deep cultural insult) and assassinating Druze leaders.

Israel has already warned the Jolani regime to stop its brutal campaign, but these butchers ignored it. Now, Israel is hitting back with targeted strikes to force them to back down. Stop the massacres, or face the consequences. Simple!

Are those actions being taken within Israel?

I think you will support Israel even if they were attacking your own people.

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Its obvious who the aggressor in the middle east is.

Kukutente23:
What you're simply implying is that the African culture is wrong
Well, the western culture of dumping parents in an adults home is worse
There should be a balance. You should take care of your parents but they shouldn't become a burden to you

If they become a burden, it is also your responsibility. The thing is that they should not have planned it so - it should not have been their plan to make you ther retirement plan.

Nevertheless all people of good conscience know very well the responsibility they have to their aged parents.
Only exception might be those parents who were horrible, abusive and neglectful.

Sirchiboy:
Parenthood is responsibilty not an avenue to breed kids in the hope of making them your retirement plan.
This is very common in African culture where parents make their kids their life time retirement.
Every parents should plan for their future retirement.
You can decide to support them once in a while but not a most it is your reponsiblity to cater for them in their old age.

May heaven help you.

Life is a cycle. If they raised and took care of you when you were small and vulnerable, you certainly owe it to them, to your conscience, and to all goodness to take care fo them when they are vulnerable.

This does not mean I support the idea of having kids as retirement plan. I dont.

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Kukutente23:
There is no such thing. There was no borrowing of any pagan beliefs or tradition. That there are similarities does not mean one borrowed from the other. Sango is god of thunder in Yoruba. It has a contemporary in Amadioha in Igbo religion. The Greeks have Zeus to match that while Egypt has Seth and Chinese have Leigong. Are you implying all copied one another to arrive at their gods?
Catholicism grew out of many debates about doctrines and dogmas which evolved based on what the council percieved to be heretic and what was divine.

Easter had nothing to do with Astarte. December 25 was not chosen for pagan influence. You have been overly deceived by Jehovah witnesses. December 25 was chosen cause that was the day calculated as the winter solstice when the sun spends the longest in the day and Jesus was referred in the Bible as the sun of Righteousness. It has nothing to do with paganism.
How does Isis mirror Mary? It makes absolutely no sense. The Bible which is the official text of Christians does not attribute any god-like status to Mary. The attribution in Catholicism was borne out of dogmatic need not biblical foundation. Yet Mary was of biblical foundation. So how can Mary have a relationship with Isis? I hope you understand what Egypt and their gods connote in Christian doctrine. It is laughable to reduce Mary to a contemporary of an Egyptian goddess. What crass ignorance!!

Well I hear you, but I dont think its deniable that there was influence of existing religions in the development of early Catholicism.

Depriest2020:
1. Gen. Murtala Muhammed - originally from Edo state.

2. Gen. Sani Abacha - originally from Borno state.

3. President Ahmed B. Tinubu - originally from Osun.

Abacha and Buhari may be Niger Republic.

beardedboy:
No, I will not spoonfeed you.
Clue: The post says culture is dynamic.

Lol. You are being escapist. Dynamism was my point from the beginning. I said cultures evolve. This means there is no reason to assume they will be murdering anyone.

beardedboy:
The post actually buttresses my points. Ponder you'll see.

Be specific, please. Asking me to "ponder" is escapist.