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chopnaira:
We love it like that. Thank you very much for all your concerns.

Who is the we? Speak for yourself.

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LagosOrigin:
One family handpicking who becomes what in Lagos

Chei

Modern slavery in full display

But I now that one day, Lagos will be liberated from this tinubu family just as Oyo state was liberated from now late, Pa Lamidi adedibu.

Only when Adedibu passed on. Same way, it's likely BAT will rule Lagos for life.

TV01, I was going to respond to your last post but it has disappeared. I see you were banned eh? There you go. So who is the trash talker now? I saw all the vulgar stuff you wrote there.

Two basic things - If indeed you accept that multiple factors are responsible for the situation with black families, why do you zero in on welfare for them as the cause / central theme? And why would you - and anyone - swat aside the obvious economic deprivation inherited from centuries of discrimination, segregation, prejudice and economic marginalization?

I really think some of you need a proper course on this matter. Because its as though you have no clue whatsoever what went down. In your minds, black Americans are simply genetically lazy ne'er do wells.

raumdeuter:
Says the governor who was informed by law enforcement

False. Everyone saw how even the leading lights of the administration jumped immediately to blame the left even when no investigation had started. Go research, up till today no such thing has been proven. Neither that the killer was politically affiliated or that the killing was politically motivated.

triplechoice:
You recently claimed on this board you can astrally travel, leaving your body to explore inner planes, and that these experiences are "very real". That's firsthand knowledge of the soul, not agnostic uncertainty.

It may not make sense to you, but for someone such as myself who even considers that my every waking moment in life may possibly be a dream within a dream within a dream, there is still a window I leave open to question even my very experiences. So greatly limited are we that even when we have what is as the ultimate proof - personal experience - we still, if we are nuanced, are able to question our personal experiences.

Because for example, someone can legitimately say one was hallucinating you know?

I truly dont have the answers and will not be so dishonest as to claim to.

Now you say you're "generally agnostic" and don't really know anything ". You have also retreated from "the body is a vehicle, the soul is the real self " to simply "at least I know I exist ".

I have not retreated from anything. Maybe it didnt come across, but your insistence that I am being inconsistent left me exasperated as I didnt know what else to say. Thus I said, well maybe I am inconsistent!

But I never questioned your existence. I asked why the body's decay makes you question a "creator" when you already said the body is temporary, an "illusion " , "not real ".
It's like buying a product whose expiration date you knew in advance, then blaming the manufacturer when it fails after that date.

I have talked not just about old age but about some of the deprivations common to it. And yes, even if not all experience them, many do and I know that those who have observed what I am talking about at close quarters especially for loved ones would be sensitive to what I am saying.

Your followers have read your passionate posts about the soul and spirit in the"Mind and matter thread " and astral travel experience in the "Simulation thread ". They have shaped their views around what you presented as knowledge. Now you say you're inconsistent because you don't really know anything. That means your earlier claims were overstatements or not based on actual knowledge. Either way, your followers were misled by the certainty about what you were saying.

I conveyed what I experienced in all honesty, And I am sorry but I do not think about "followers" when I write. I write straight from the heart and true from my mind.

I'm done here. Not willing to continue with this

Thank you

You sound angry or irritated and thats fine. You are free to be done. I am not holding you.

raumdeuter:
Kirk killer has leftist ideology

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/9/15/suspect-in-charlie-kirks-murder-has-leftist-ideology-utah-governor-says

So says someone. Its not been established.

raumdeuter:
Yes cos I expected nateevs to be better educated than Bob a libertarian who thinks the earth is flat and jump onto any conspiracy theory

Well I was just reminding you that it's an iron cast fact that leftists are generally better educated than conservatives in the US.

raumdeuter:
You can take any idea to a right winger and he will debate with you
Do that to the left and they want to kill you like they did Charlie Kirk

Oh really? The same right that attacks free speech by wanting to cancel comedians like Jimmy Kimmel? The same right whose president has been fighting against the free press in multiple ways?

raumdeuter:
What exactly is the correlation of my post with your response?

Oh you talked about education, didnt you.

raumdeuter:
Charlie said which you posted that HE DID NOT SAY BLACKS WERE BETTER UNDER SUBJUGATION.

Their society and the family structure was better. Do you agree that the society is better when you have more children raised by 2 parents?

You are doing what bemeruca did. Changing his words. I have addressed this and cant repeat myself all day. He said they were better in the forties. He also said specifically that they committed less crimes when they had less rights thereby linking the fact that they committed less crimes to the fact that they were allowed less rights than others. When there were many factors. That makes it clear he was arguing that less rights for blacks meant less crimes by them. It's no wonder he also argued the Civil Rights Act was a mistake and insulted MLK.

IjeBos:
I think this is the key quote
“When blacks in America did not have the same rights they have today, they were less murderous, there were less break-ins – why is that?”

But, remember he is just asking the racist question /s

Google House Ni**er and you'll understand why people can argue he was not racist.
I have 0 respect for anybody who justifies him.
And it tells you where the Republican party is today that he is celebrated.

I cannot express my exasperation enough.
Republicans are one thing. But for black people to defend this is mind numbing.

raumdeuter:
This is an example of left insanity, They know but just want to be foolish, Of course they know Iran shouldnt be on a committee on women rights, jus like they know boys shouldnt be playing girls sport but thy just want to be deliberately folish

The US should also not be on any committee for human rights, democracy.

raumdeuter:
You can say that a large percentage of serial killers and school shooters are white, Yes that is the truth. The facts dont care about your emotions and feelings

You miss the point. Yes you can say that. Using that to make general and sweeping statements about the nature, predilections and condition of white people in a sensitive political sense such as what rights they deserve is what will be problematic.

And thats what the disgusting racist Kirk did.

raumdeuter:
If your hands are tied you do less crime?

Of course you do less everything. This is aside from the fact that crime overall was lower then.

TV01:
He also hates black people who don't join his hate parade for WP and Juice. Freely and gleefully throwing around slurs such as HN and cooon or variations thereof.

A really hateful person.



Oh yes, and this too. A spewer of tropes and canned ideology. Wrapped up in tantrums dressed as faux outrage .



TV

Will you shattap and get on your knees at once!
The cheek of the working class.
Servant.

raumdeuter:
Empathy for what exactly? Empathy for black children being killed daily by fellow blacks as a result of breakdown of the family encouraged by th govt?

When will you have some empathy for black children murderd by their thousands yearly

Picking on one thing the way you guys do to denigrate blacks is just shameful. Its like saying whites are useless since most serial killers are white.

raumdeuter:
The replies are what a conspiracy nut deserves, nothing more than that. Especially when you watch the unravelling of a former rational human.

Why I shake my head for you is because I see this same thing in one of my worker, He believes in every conspiracy theory, The earth is flat, the moon landing was fake, 9-11 was fake, etc and all we do is just laugh at him, When I have a new person come around I just call him

"Hey Bob, this dude here does not believe the earth is flat, does not believe 9-11 happened and he will just go rambling like you did about how from a lake in Louisiana you can see the world is flat, How moon landing never happened, Echoing the same fewlissh thoughts you have

That is Bob who probably didnt finish high school, Now imagine nateevs with al your education and exposure now leveling to Bob. Dont you think that is a shameful thing

It is a statistical fact that most right wing devotees are not well schooled. Statistically, leftists are far more exposed, enlightened, educated. University graduates are far more likely to be leftists too. Same with urban-rural spread. Leftists are more urbane.

raumdeuter:
You saw that Charlie clarified that he did not say that blacks thrived under subjugation, So what exactly is your question?

Read through, I have addressed that, I cant repeat myself.

This country is just blessed with a rich flavor of different fabulous cultures. We need to unite and love one another and do away with the prejudice and tribalism.

Tribalism is as bad as racism!

bemeruca:
Its okay if you don't have self awareness.

You are a racist but you believe black people can't be racists

Worshipping white people slavishly such that you defend anything they do even when racist and abominable is definitely sick. Pointing that out does not mean I hate white people. In fact let me sound like a racist and say "but I have many white friends" - which is true!

tctrills:
Failure
You will watch me live and continue to point out your poor arguments.
I dont need to get emotional like you because I have the truth on my side.
You support black-on-black murder, fatherlessness, and abortion, but claim to support and cherish the freedom and dignity of human beings. No one is fooled; we know you.
You are fueled by hate and inferior arguments
I really don't care if you want me dead because you are powerless and inconsequential.

You can misquote me a thousand times, it has no meaning. No one ever said they wanted you dead or assasinated. We affirm that you are not a person who deserves to exist. No one who engages in slavery, apartheid, racism or other forms of denigration of human beings does. And no one who defends and supports those who do does either.

However in our world, people get what they dont deserve all the time, good or bad. Not a fair world.

tctrills:
Lol
The leftist in you is coming out. Always ready to assassinat everyone you don't agree with.

You see superior argument and all you wish is that the opposition never existed.
Coward.

You do not deserve to exist., I stand by it.
No one who defends the utter BS you defend deserves to exist.

If you like say I am calling for your assassination. That is your business. I certainly am not. I only know that you do not deserve to exist and the world would have been better if you were never born.

People who deserve life cherish it and they also cherish the freedom and dignity of human beings. You cherish neither.

bemeruca:
You said crap about all white people, we point out that some fought and died to free black people from slavery.

You call house House N, make statements like white people or W Supreme won't love you etc.

You hate white people. That's confirmed

Descending into outright lies should be beneath even you (if anything could be).
The bold are outright lies.

TV01:
Yes please. Examples. Instances from all those scientific studies you spend your time reading !
Perhaps you could deploy the same methodology in your, not gradually, but rapidly spiralling nation.


TV

Useless.

My dear little man, you simply dont have the intellect for the discussions you attempt to skirt around.
You are simply too small as a character also.

bemeruca:
Oga you do.

Criticizing racists is not hatred. The hatred is being racist.
I dont expect any HN to understand this though.

TV01:
People accused TR of being racist - I asked for evidence. Detail of broad based harm, or intended harm to black or ethnic minorities in the UK, via his actions individually or as part of an organisation. Non was forthcoming.

You quite clearly despise white people and you are one of this boards foremost haters of "Juice". Repeating AS tropes even after being repeatedly corrected.

But, I don's suppose the Juice care about the opinion of someone scraping out a living in a backwater no one takes seriously. Kinda like me .


TV

Nonsensical and the presumptions about my life only rebound on you.

I hate neither Caucasians nor Jews.

However those who are enslaved to both would imagine so.

GracieX3:
How far? Bros TV said that he doesn't talk about personalities but then, how did he defend Tommy Robinson

He said that one is not racist.

TV01:
Is your statement science in any sense?
Please detail or point to instances which can be used to confirm this position.



Abi?


TV

I need to show you proof that the improvement of the lot of a subjugated people IS A GRADUAL PROCESS that takes time, and even generations when they have been subjugated for centuries?

Useless.

TV01:
Why was I called out here?

Because of your defense of Tommy Robinson, perhaps?

I don't, as a rule discuss people or personalities.

Hahahahahahahahahahahaha!

A house fly attempting to be an Eagle.

And, coming from you, accusations of racism are quite rich don't you think?.


TV

I have never been racist or said anything racist.

bemeruca:
My proposa is not to roll back rights. My proposal is to stop pretending civil rights and social outcomes are the same issue.

Civil rights fix legal injustice. It did not automatically fix crime, family breakdown, urban poverty, bad schools, drugs, or cultural decay.

The question is not should Blacks go back to Jim Crow? Of course not.

The question is: after legal discrimination was reduced, why some indicators get worse instead of better?

That question is not anti-Black. It is the kind of question you ask if you actually care about solving the problem.

The hip hop culture promotes a lot of what is wrong with the black community. Obama talked about Fatherless homes.

Be here and pretend like there is nothing to talk about while you call people disgrace for no reason.

Don't understand what kirk was talking about, just go along and call him a racist because it makes you feel good.

The improvement of the lot of a people is obviously a gradual process which takes generations - especially when that set of people have been subject to centuries of deprivation and subjugaton!

This is not rocket science!