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Jim Jones comes to mind!

It's very possible, but the abuser must be willing to change their violent behaviours. Behaviours are learned, and can be unlearned.

I though this is contrary to popular opinion, but it's the truth.

AgapeCharis:
God forbid!

But bro, its dt easy and God is dt simple Wat do u want him to do now? To mourn himself??

All he needs to do is to truly repent in his heart, ask God for forgiveness and move on. If his heart keeps pricking him, den he shud open up to his brother and sincerely ask for his forgiveness! Finish!

I was waiting for your last paragraph.

AgapeCharis:
The deed has been done.
What u need to do now is to sincerely repent in ur heart and pray to God for forgiveness. Dtx where u begin from. After dt, knowing dt God has forgiven u, u deal with the guilt. U shouldn't have a headache over something that God has long forgotten

Bro, it's actually not that easy.
Shalom we continue in sin that ggrace may abound?

ohaleoghene:
if it is medically necessary, I do not perceive it as been sinful. God has richly blessed mankind with wisdom to created help for ourselves so why holding back? my sister had her twins,boys through c s. thank God she did, else she and the babies would have Gone is a year now. on that day,the husband didn't want to sign to Cs. he was scared. you will be surprise how educated folks sometimes act like market women. the doctor had to persuade the husband before he sheepishly gave in . now he is glad he did. we for no get twins now o. thank God for science. her own case was that one of the babies was sitting down so no space for the second one to come out cs is not sinful. have heard some folks see blood transfusion as been sinful. stone age folks.

Thank God your sister was wise enough to do what was necessary to ensure her safety and that of her kids. We rejoice with her. Children are the best gifts a woman can have!

My wife also believes it's true. Men, one day, I wan give my wife a hot kiss.....just a kiss ooo.

She no gree at all....and I was in da mood....my lips were already salivating before I was brutally disappointed. ...

Me no believe am shaaaa

A man of uncommon vision and courage! He prized his values above his very life. Only a life lived for higher ideals is worth living.

Ken will always have my honour anyday, anytime.

Icherishu:
Some don't see the wisdom in it and they would want to tempt God. She says it everytime that she can never have CS. That isn't her portion.

I have looked at my own scenario that if I didn't have CS my baby would have died. I was stooling for more than 12 hours and I later started vommiting, that singular act of vomiting put pressure on my uterus and my water broke. Before I could reach the hospital by 6am all forms of contractions has stopped. So tell me will I have been stupid to say I still don't want CS.

I look at my son and forget all what has happened. Apart from the scar on my body that still itches, I am fine and I will do CS all over if the need arises

Dear, I have two kids, and my have had them both through CS.

Icherishu:
Women are the worst enemy of themselves. A friend and I were pregnant and she was due after me. She lost that baby because her mother and her MIL insisted that she shouldn't do CS. The baby was distress and died before delivery. Yet it was CS that was used to bring the baby out. Now she has a second baby, it is still CS she used.

This mindset has killed women since 1914. I have a cuz that won't be caught doing it. I always tell her to pray not to have a high risk pregnancy. I remember what she told me when she came to my bedside after my CS, she said she was angry with me for agreeing to do CS. I almost walked her out but on a second thought I rem my boy and I let it slide.

Come to think of it my baby was distress o and that was the last resort. My contractions has stopped and I had been stooling for more than 12 hours. So what should I have done? I tell anyone who cares to listen that my faith hasn't reach that. If it comes again I will gladly accept. After all safe delivery is mother and child alive.

In stupidity she has killed her baby! I hope she had asked God to forgive her murder? Many women are believing God for the fruits of the womb, and then some dumb ones are killing theirs.

By dear, it's not actually a matter of lack of faith; it's application of wisdom.

Kimoni:
Then he should tell me the parish naa, cuz personally, I know Redeeem has no such doctrine. Any pastor in Redeem that preaches that C/S is a sin should be reported.

The aim of this thread isn't actually to name a parish or denomination that sanctions such a message, but to make Christian women aware of what's happening as per this CS matter.

I personally will be very reluctant to bring any parish or denomination into the spotlight for such a thing.

I worship with the RCCG, and I can categorically tell you I haven't heard such doctrine emanating from any RCCG branch.

adebisicutie:
So many women lose their lives and that of their babies because of ignorance.

It happens daily. People keep endangering their lives due to ignorance, and sometimes, stupidity.

bukatyne:
Well Christians have the duty of studying the Bible for themselves. It is available in the market Lol!

Most pastors talk from their experience, perception to life, how they get God's inspiration and their belief system.

Not everything they say is law and we need God's Spirit to help us interpret. For example, respect your husband means different things to different people.

Very correct. It's just natural that others will do our thinking if we don't do it ourselves.

In this era, every Christian should take more time and pains to carefully see God's will for their lives. We need to study to show ourselves approved to God. If we don't study it, then we are easy preys for false teachers to deceive.

It depends on the uniqueness of the home. For me, I do send money to my parents with my wife's consent. It's just normal that the both parties sshould be in the know. Now that doesn't mean I tell her whenever I send every naira, but if the amount is so substantial it may affect our budget, then I MUST tell her.

Even if it was sent earlier without her consent, somehow I will still tell her. We talk a lot.

bukatyne:
Religious people need a lot of liberation.

@Crackhaus: It is not church per se but individual pastors.

Thanks for the reply.

crackhaus:
Please tell me the name of the church that preaches such doctrine, I need to tell all of my friends and family to avoid it.

Very important!

This is serious!

Lord, today, I pray You give Nigerian masses the courage and oneness to oppose their evil leaders! Give us the bravery to protest corruption and bad governanc.

Ignorance kills faster than EBOLA.

I'm yet to understand the depth to which many of us have been brainwashed by some spiritual leaders. Some pregnant will never entertain the thought of going through a CS to have their babies even when their doctors have advised them to do so. This is almost entirely due to the belief that it's unbiblical and faithless for a pregnant Christian woman to have her baby through a CS. This is purely nonsense!

If the conditions surrounding the pregnancy deem it safe to undergo a CS, why would a woman do otherwise? This Hebrew women mantra is really endangering the lives of women and their babies. There's nothing absolutely wrong in women having babies through a CS.

A woman living close toy wife's office almost killed herself when she insisted on having a vaginal delivery even when the doctor clearly explained it was risky to do so. She said her pastor had told her she must have a vaginal delivery. All efforts to.persuade her failed. An matter turn red, na emergency CS she undergo. She survived, but without the baby. Baby had died due to excessive distress. What foolishness!

We should be very careful as to what we act on. The Bible that advocates faith, also advocates wisdom. Kids delivered through a CS do not have accompanying marks on their foreheads.

There's nothing absolutely wrong with a woman having her baby through a CS.

Shalom!

kevoh:
Abeg enough with these censored words on NL. What the hell is ''womanly delivery'' ? An important message is being passed across but the substance is always lost on Nairaland because of useless censorship. What is wrong with the medical term Va.gi.nal delivery? Mtcheew!

No mind them! Na vaginal delivery I put for my message oooo....This censoring is becoming unbecoming.

Please, there's nothing wrong for a woman to have her kids through CS. Many women have endangered their lives by thinking it's not scriptural to have a Caesarean Section.

A woman close to my wife's office nearly lost her baby and her own life because he insisted her pastor had told her she was going to have a vaginal delivery, even when the doctor has advised her to undergo a CS. This woman had to undergo an emergency CS when matter turn red. The baby, being distressed from an extensive labour, gave up minutes after the CS. What foolishness! The Bible that advocates faith, also advocates wisdom.

I'm not saying Christian women shouldn't exercise their faith in vaginal delivery, but they must apply wisdom and caution.

The only normal delivery is the one in which both baby and mothers are alive and healthy, either through vaginal delivery or a CS.

Let's not risk the lives of our kids and ours by walking against wisdom. The kids delivered through a CS do not have an accompanying mark on their foreheads.

Shalom!

I lost my cousin on the 1st of this month. It's the most painful experience of my life. I was driving home on the evening of 31st, October, when a senior uncle called me. His voice appeared so depressed and weakened I thought it was stress. I knew something wasn't right when he asked me to pull over and that he wanted to tell me some bad news. I pulled over in panic. He told me my cousin, Dennis, had died.

He was involved in a marine accident somewhere in Bayelsa. He was trapped in the inner room of the capsized executive boat. He was working with the DSS. We are still grieving. I couldn't even console the wife. What a tragedy! A vacuum has been created that will take us years to fill. I was so devastated at the news. The pains are unprecedented; the agony unbearable; the loss irreparable.

He was buried last Friday evening. The entire community was turned into a sea of mourning. It was an untimely death. It's being gloomy for us. He laid motionless in the brown coffin as he lowered into the grave and finally had earth covered it. Dust to dust! I had lost DENNIS!

I pray that God will not allow untimely death to be our portion. We shall meet God at old age.

RIP, #DENNIS.

I'm not so angry with the Pastor flogging them as I do with the erring members allowing him to do so!

Sanchez01:
I'm sorry for double posting.

It's Ok. Still studying your second post. Thanks for your time.

God knows I'm really enjoying my marriage. It was a bit rusty at the beginning, but now the rough edges are no more.

God, I receive more wisdom and humility today.

This matter don cause some gbege between my wife and I when our son wanted to start school.

I suggested he should start at three. She suggested he should start by a year and 6 months. After some compromise, we agreed him to start by 2 and a half years.

In PH, it's like it's now a competition. Kids less than 2 years are rushed into the classroom. These kids are deprived adequate sleep and proper brain development. Some uniform be like buba! All in a hurry to have kids graduate by 14.

I know kids mental abilities vary from one another. But there should be some safe periods kids should be introduced to the rigours of academic, plus the daily movement to and from school. PH traffic around Woji na die!

When will you consider your kids mature enough for academics?

Sanchez01:
No, Christians should not delve into usury. Typically, I would have backed my claim with Scriptural references but I'm a bit off today. I hope you research further though.

Bro, where you go na? Longest of times.

I'm doing some more research. Pls supply more answers when you are in the mood to.

The Church is the Body of Christ. It comprises all who have made Christ their Lord and personal Saviour. It's the assembly of believers. Christ is its foundation. The Church isn't the aesthetic and embellished building; it's not the physical structure. It's the conglomerate of all the children of God. Jesus is the Bridegroom of the Church.

The following hymn perfectly describes the Church; it was composed by Samuel J. Stone.

The Church's one foundation
Is Jesus Christ our Lord;
She's is His new creation
By water and the Word;
From Heaven He came and sought her
to be His holy bride;
With His Own blood He bought her,
And for her life He died.

Elect from every nation,
Yet one o'er all the earth;
Her charter of salvation
One Lord, one faith, one birth
One holy name she blesses
Partakes one holy food,
And to one hope she presses,
With every grace endued.

It's such a sober and solemn hymn, signalling the unity, challenges and eventual victory!

I love all my siblings, irrespective of the fact we have different mothers. And I'm not even conscious of it; it flows naturally to them all.

It's a practice in polygamy that one shows more love( if possible) to his brethren of a different mother.

haffaze777:
I think its because u re all a liar

We no understand you ooo!!!

Ironically, my wife and I have had more challenges when we have MONEY, rather than when we are broke. I'm yet to figure the way out of it.

Maybe I listen less when I have more money. Money seems to have caused homes more troubles than poverty.

Can a Christian involve in money lending business? Is it proper for a Christian to lend out a sum of money and demand a certain percentage paid back as interest?

Brethren, your inputs will be appreciated.

Thanks.

italo:
Thank you.

Very serious matter.

But how can Christians pretend to want a solution when they are avoiding the genesis of the issue?

If you don't know when or how a problem occured, how can you solve it?

The critical question is: when and how did this disunity come about?

I think we should rather pay more attention to bridging this division.

Honestly, I flow along with every Christian. But that's not the case with most Christians.

italo:
In the 15th century, the stupidly broke away from God's one true Church...

In the 21st century, they're stupidly asking why there's no unity among Christians.

My guy, it's being a long time. Happy to have you here.

The matter wey dry ground na serious one ooo