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@engineer1 or whatever u call urself, for the umpteenth time, a degree DOES NOT make u an Engineer; it makes u a graduate with an Engineering background. Your Experience is what qualifies you as one. It's only in Nigeria that everyone is eager to bear a title. I remember a recent trip to Naija, met one of my old classmates from highschool, who just finished her medical studies from Enugu or somewhere in the East two days prior to when I met her; She walked up to me and said, Delta007, u can now call me a doctor. I chuckled cos there's no way on earth anyone wud give her any leeway or responsibilities to perform her "experiments" when someone's life is in question. The point is, these are professions where experience is VERY vital and cannot be underestimated.

And to the dude that says he's met several "Electrical Engineers" who cant wire their houses, it's quite obvious u aint one. In the first place, Electrical Engineering in itself encompasses several areas of specialization, from electronics to power to controls to automation to telecoms etc. And even in these areas of specializations, there are several responsibilities associated with them. Did those EEs tell u their areas or u just assumed every EE must know how to wire a house? If u think the electricians that do the manual labour actually woke up with a "good" practical idea, u are obviously drunk.

I think both sides have some valid points. I'm an Engineer, albeit schooled, trained and works in N.America. I had a cpl yrs Uni education in Nigeria before I jetted out and I must say my experience is clearer than 7up. I cannot dismiss the theoritical knowledge I picked up in Nigeria because it was the backbone of my relative success as an Engineer here, however I remember those nights I stayed up studying with lanterns and candles while mosquitoes finished the hell outta me; I kept asking myself how I was going to apply the knowledge because it never made sense. Yeah, I studied to pass and I passed with distinction; when I got to N.America the theory was already there but then I started to understand its applications. Heck, I came out tops in my class, easily worked my way into the world class firms by God's Grace. Even when u graduate here in N.America, you are not an Engineer; instead, u are an "Engineer in training" and you have to build 4-5yrs experience (which are supervised) before you are classified as an engineer. But in Naija, the moment u step out, even with a 2-2 or 3, u don become Engineer Adebayo. What can you Engineer? It's true, most infrastructures in Nigeria are built by multinational firms who bring in their "experts"; only few Nigeria Engineers actually Engineer., not because they are incompetent but just cos of the system. I remember working in a global manufacturing company which had a plant in Naija; my intentions was for them to post me to naija as an expatriate for a couple years. Funny thing was one of the dudes that went ahead of me as an expatriate worked under me as a technician N.America. I trained him, gave him all the materials he needed and when he went to Naija, he was an Oga obviously cos of his white skin. And of course, my boss no gree release me cos according to him, I was too crucial for the operations in N.America.

My point is, there are very intelligent "Engineers" in Nigeria but the system has not allowed for Engineers to practise effectively. I must say I give kudos to my counterparts in Nigeria who despite the inadequacies, they genuinely practise in their fields and uphold the "standards" of the profession. There are incompetent Engineers everywhere, not just naija; that's why there are regulating bodies in various countries that ensure Engineers conform to law and ethics and are very competent in their fields. Take it or leave it, Engineers are just as important (or even more important) than doctors since every thing they do affect the general public, from the bridges and roads u drive on to even the cell phones every tom, dick and harry owns. For the dude that says Engineers in Naija only repairs and fixes, that part of Engineering is called "Reverse Engineering". Infact firms around the world employ engineers to research, spec, design, manage, maintain, improve, etc. The unfortunate part is that in Naija, most Engineers end up only "Managing" or "Maintaining". I guess that's your gripe but it's part of the profession.

The Universities have to be overhaul. Engineering is a practical Science so more emphasis should be put on experience, the theory cannot be ignored tho. Also, just as someone pointed out, Firms have to invest in Engineers; despite my university education, I've had countless on-the-job trainings which have kept me abreast with latest technology. These are not cheap.

BTW, anyone know whether PHCN dey look for correct Engineer?   Time to give back to my motherland!

U got mail!

Busta:
@ Delta007
wats your YIM?

MOM = Berti Dummy Vogts.

What a self-servicer!

Same!

Busta:
In Toronto . . . and working.

u?

Busta, whereabouts Canada are u based and what do u do? Just curious

I dont know what kinda men or boys u gals date, but I've heard silly comments like this in the past. "If I buy a house, men will be intimidated". Well, make i tok my own (and for my pals who are quite successful as well). We no dey look for babes wey no get direction; any guy wey dey intimidated by ur success na small boy; Heck, the more successful you are, the better.

Where are the area boys when we need them?

waterworks:
@ delta 007 how u take no say na burger king she dey work? i had my sucpisions too.

ah ah because this thign don they bother me since! 20 and working which tyme she take enter uni?

Isnt it obvious? This is just one of those classic "children-ish" threads. Does he like me? What kinda question is that? Of cos he'd like to lay u asap. If na corporate office wey get profession (not a job), u think say a 26yr old manager will go to myspace to start looking for a 20yr old coworker to chat up with when he cud easily ask her out on a nice dinner date?

What's the point of rushing the marriage? She better sit up and finish her degree and get correct job or better still go for her masters. If the guy is really interested in her development, he wud support her education. The greatest regret she may end up having in life is marrying this dude without a degree. Wetin be NCE? Nonsense!

Working at Burger King at 20 or 26 isnt really something I'd be proud of, but grease to ur elbow if that's what u wish for ur daughter.

almondjoy:
Great! 20 and already working? I am so proud of you. I pray my daughter follows in your footsteps.

Please go ahead, you have my blessings. Just keep it a secret from all your co-workers if you can. But that will be very difficult to do. If I cared so much for him, I would resign and go get another job to protect that relationship or risk getting fired for violating company policies. You are still young and can still get another job--and another relationships so you really have all the time in the world. So take your time and enjoy your relationship, career and education. You have 5 years to work it out! Please do not wait till you are 28 or 30 ooooooooooooooooooooh!

Besides, I like to keep my relationship separate from working relationships.

As far as the question goes "does he like or love you"?

Only time can tell that. It is too early and you both are still young--No stress at all. Goodluck though!

@michelin-airhead,
Who's insecure? The guy who is ready to admit the past and move-on or the girl who is afraid that her relationship will suffer cos of her act in the PAST? Seems some of u just talk thru ur a$$; quite an art i must say.

The girl is simply not trustworthy, perhaps she's insecure as i initially noted or this is just one of those dirty secrets that will keep piling up. The onus is on the girl to spill the beans and if things are planned properly, it wud be a cake walk and have no adverse effect on the relationship. The husband to be will definitely find out in the future and all hell will break lose. The earlier this issue is sorted the better; if the marriage is meant to be, e go happen, no matter what.

@poster, u need to convince this chick to yan ur bro or threaten her u go tok if she no tok. It's not an option.

almondjoy:
Ah ah!  Aisha2, I was only making a general statement naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaau!  Haba!  No personal reference to you ke!  I never said it is ok.  All I said is that if a man ventures out of his matrimonial home as a result of his wandering "pe-nis", he becomes "communual property"! Kudos for your resolve.  Not every woman given the economic and political or social climate in Nigeria can resist such a dilemma.  If I ever found myself in that situation, I will definitely rock on.  He will use me and I will use him!  God no go vex!  When we get there we can face the "judgement".  Right now, this is an earthly matter!

He alone violated his marriage and set out to destroy it not the concubine.  He has more to lose not the concubine. It just sickens me that women are to blame for adulterous affairs when the men run around with their filthy deeks!

Who cares about the man's wife?  She should deal with her wandering husband please!  It is ultimately the man's fault for defiling his matrimonial bed!  Please let's cut out this self righteous holy crap! Put the blame where it is due please.  It is the stupid man's fault!  If he respected himself, he would not fall prey to high school girls on the street or any woman for that matter--knowing fully well he is married!  Bullshit!


It is just like saying I should go after a lady for being with my husband.  Out of shame, I will not even confront her.  Na the man me go deal with!  Then he will deal with the babe! Then the babe will deal with him!  Then we go from there!  As a woman--a real woman, I know what to do! Unless my mama no raise me right!

I've resisted responding to some of ur comments cos  i think say u just dey joke plus  e be like say u be my etsako sister, but no offence, the more u post the more it confirms that u are an expired product.

I just pity our generation, and this poster will end up being someone's wife; Nna, may God send ashawos like u far away from me. Amen!

tkb417:
@Poster
go back to the serious suitor and don't tell him when ure getting married.
One thing is certain, God has created a man for every woman and a woman for every man.
hes definitely not who God wants for u.

Let him go

Go back ke? She already dumped the serious suitor and now wants to use him as backup?

My advice to poster is relax, take it easy, if u be correct babe, there are enough serious suitors around.

daryl:
i had a boyfriend whom i dated for 3yrs and he proposed to me, we had a slight challenge in the sense that he is the only son and his big sis arranged a babe for him to marry, he didnt want to marry that he told me, and after awhile that one left, and she brought another for him to marry, but he told me is me he wants and wants to iron it out with his sisters. my sistes and brothers where aware and they told me to take it easy because i truly love him. i had a serious suitor but he cried and begged me not to leave him, and it happened that on 31st of Dec 2007 one of my friends called me that my so called Fiance is getting married, he didnt tell me, i was with him before i travelled home for the break.

I am not against him marrying her, but why didnt he tell me or allow me to go on with my life? i have not spoken to him though. should i call him and ask him ir i should forget about it and move on with my life.

Of course u shud confirm it, if it's true, moveon.org and thank your God u didnt have to face the pressures of in-laws wey no send you. There's nothing worse than that.

By the way, whereabouts Canada are u? I get serious suitors for u if u be correct babe  

Since nobody wan tok am, I go tok am. U are an ashawo, simple and short. You know u aint getting anything from ur relationship with the married man but his dough. So dont come here and front. I pity the dude who's willing to sponsor u. U'd sell out to another married man in the future. Keep doing what u are doing, when u decide to settle down, dont be mad at ur hubby if he decides to do a lil somethin' on the side.

The only peeps who have a sigh of relief at being single are those who were in disastrous relationships. Apart from that, there's nothing to enjoy being single; that's why it's normal for a decent human being to have friends, most peeps who think they benefit from being single are the desperate ones who are fronting or peeps who didnt know why they were in a relationship in the first place. I see comments like "freedom to do whatever", You dont go into a relationship to restrict urself, u ought to be with someone that compliments you. The keyword there is "compliment".

I no dey too contribute for all these nollywood scripts, but if this na true story, ol boy, hit the highway sharp sharp; dont turn back like Lot, unless u just wan dey sample am on a regular basis with no plan for the future, and even at that, that's risky especially when emotions are involved, the girl loves u but forgot that when she was nakking ur bro? What's the guarantee it wont happen in the future? Her words? Are u kidding me? There's absolutely no excuse for that especially with your brother. Guys are different from gurls, Guys just need a place to have sex, Girls need to get in the "mood", they need to be turned on etc etc. That's why when u meet some chicks, e fit take centuries to nak them whether u buy heaven and earth but the cheap hoes will sell out to anything, even recharge card. This ur babe, when agro hit am again and u are out of town, maybe na ur landlord or driver go dey service am for u, Dont get me wrong, peeps change but I wont risk a long term relationship with someone that betrayed the trust with my own very brother. If na another person, hmmmm, maybe i go rethink am. U seem like a decent guy who's set on kickstarting his career, u need a woman who wud respect u and appreciate the fact that despite ur tight schedule, u are still making her a priority. Cheap hoes will sell out to anything, dem go wash, clean, cook, chook, etc for nada, so dont buy that ish. Just my 2-kobo.

deemayjee:
Hello everyone. I'm sure many of you would want to know what happened after the whole episode. Things have surely happened, but i still don't know whether i should just leave the girl or forget the whole episode and accept her back like some of the latest posters have implied. I've really tried so hard to get her out of my mind, but i just can't.

During December, she sent me several text messages and "I'm sorry" messages to my box, pleading that i forgive her and at least listen to her. Her older sister i mentioned in one of my earlier posts too has been on my neck to forgive her younger sister and take her back.

Both of them even came to see me one weekend before sallah. I happened to be the only one at home that morning as my dad had gone down south with my mom(who just came in from the states) for the sallah and Xmas break. I had told them i'll be down with them before sallah.
I was watching a film on TV that Saturday morning when someone knocked on the door. i opened up and saw them both. When i saw the girl, my heart just went out to her as she had really gone so lean in just a month. I didn't want to show that i still felt something for her as i told her that she shouldn't kill herself because of me, as i had already told her that it was over. She started crying again that day. Although her tears really moved me, i tried hard not to show it, but my eyes betrayed me. Her older sister(she's about 15 years older than her) sat both of us down and had a serious talk with us. I don't want to bore any of you with all what she said, but she later made her younger sister kneel down and beg me. She just fell down in front of me and further burst into tears. She buried her face in my laps and wept."Deji, am sorry, Deji, im sorry, i promise i won't do it again, i love you so much darling, please forgive me, " she kept on sobbing. honestly i felt like bursting into tears myself at that point. i tried pushing her away but she held on fast to me.

At the end of the whole crying episode, I just had to do something, if at least to spare myself of the pain of seeing her weep so much. I told her that fine, i'm not upset at her anymore, but before i could think of taking her back, she'll have to prove it to me that she's really sorry for what she did to me. In other words, she'll have to earn my love and trust again if i was to consider taking her back.

Since then she's been at it oh!!! It even got to a stage that me sef thought of it and wondered "haven't i punished this lady enough? If we actually look at it, to err is human, but to forgive is divine." Such things do happen in this cruel world. I wouldn't know whether she's just playing me or not, but all what she's been through just because of a simple guy like me proves otherwise. I'm not rich, I'm just a Corper, I have just the basic things every comfortable young guy has(though i drive a small Toyota). She's a very pretty young lady who has several men on her trail begging to date her, but yet she refuses their advances and is going through all this just for a simple guy like me to forgive her and take her back.

i had to come back to work before xmas. When she heard from somewhere(where, i don't even have a clue) that i had returned, she left Lagos and came back. She literally spent the whole xmas and new year here with me, cooking all my meals, cleaning the house for me, and spending most of her time at my place. There was even a time then that she collapsed out of exhaustion when she was cleaning up my room. Luckily for her and will i say unluckily for me, my instincts were faster than my mind and i leaped forward to grab her before she fell. she landed in my arms. i looked into her tired eyes which were half closed from exhaustion, and before i could stop myself, i had started kissing her. I quickly came back to my senses before it led to another thing.

so peeps that's where things are at the moment. Everyone has said i should forgive her. Both my parents had a talk with my brother and I during the sallah break. You know there are things ones parents say which will make one's head swell and listen to them. i hugged my brother and told him i had forgiven him. My mom then said that i should take my time in thinking on whether i still want to date my girl again, and whatever i decide will be fine with her.

I'm still pulling back though. i know deep within me i love this girl so much and from what she's shown since, she loves me too, but something is still holding me back. Maybe i should still give it more time, or what do u all think?

seunbballo:
what ever the milleage is? i don't look at milleage. If the car is maintained well and a reasonable price, i will buy. (moto no bi house, na to just move about)I used a honda 95 with 160k milleage for 200pounds. so i expect a 1992/3 model with such milleage to not be more than 300k-400k in naira with all the shipping expenses and clearing with profit making. Ha!!!! money don spoil naija!!!!!. Naija people too open mouth. (Money 4 thought in naija-profit only making beings)

Slow ur roll bro. U had better start looking at the mileage unless u dont value ur money or u dont mind junk. 200pounds no be money sha but 20,000pounds, now u are talking. There's a reason why oyibo sell their cars based on mileage not just the year it was manufactured. The simple reason is that Cars are made up of mechanical moving parts and are bound to fail with age or mileage. That's why toyotas, hondas, etc are leaders in the auto industry cos they buid that parts with a much longer life span when compared to other manufacturers. Also, that's why warranties are based on age AND mileage.

I no wan pour san san for inside prsin garri sha but guys beware. I sell export premium SUVs to Naija and sell them so I'm in the auto bizness.

Anyway, just my 2 cents on this sale is that it raises alot of flag. One thing for sure is the car is re-painted; that's not the orignal paint. There's no way a 14yr old car (halla or Beemer) will have paint in such pristine condition which begs the question, why was it painted? Obviously, the car was auctioned at a point, hence the "Auction sign". 149K clicks on a 14yr old car? So what did the original owner do? Buy the car and put keep it in his garage for 14yrs? Folks, draw ur conclusions; it may be in a pristine condition but I'd urge the seller to give some history on the ride.

BTW, I thot cars older than 7 yrs aint allowed in the country any longer? No?

So where are the happening spots this Christmas for Lag, Abj, Warri, Benin and Ph? I see Calabar is an option, I just enter Naija for some waka but my Christmas window is still open with flexibility. So, I wont mind some info, and any ladies way wan join my waka, holla; Sugarmamas included

How about you start by posting ur "Resume" and Picture.?

mrpataki:


Listen dolt, who cares what and where your life revolves on. Hyperventilating over nothing shows how much frustration you live with. Get a good life and also get your tenses right. It is annoying reading highly incoherent statements from you, as it offends intellectual reasoning and thinking. Silly wannabees.

I don't blame you though, but making ignorance and stupidity your maxim is a shame, your generations will be ashamed of. My first post was not directed at you, wonder when it became an attack on you. Silly and ignorant gnat.

I have honored you enough with my response. No more will I condescend to your stupidity to harangue you.

Enough said.

Wow, I like that Mr Kpata; finally, u can string a cpl words together even tho it's still apparent ur mother gave birth to u while standing. Keep it up son; very soon, ur status will be elevated to "Village 1diot". What a self-servicer!

Ho Ho Ho, seems Christmas came too early for some peeps.

Like someone said, there's alot of desperation in the Nigerian society, it's not even funny. I guess it's as a result of the pressures of the society. A decent girl in her twenties suppose don marry or planning to; hence to keep status quo, she tries very hard to cling onto anything not to feel left out.

Tell her to stop eating Eba in the mornings. As for her stomach not being flat, maybe she's pregnant

On a more serious note, gyms are there for a reason. If she can't afford it, she can jog around your block a few times a week. Good and cheap way to keep fit.

mrpataki:
You just registered today, and all you did is to direct insults at me with your 3rd post on this forum How many times have you been banned?

If you are frustrated in life, take it out on those who were responsible for your upbringing. If you so decide to recline to incessant stupidity and foolishness, your days are numbered again on this forum!

Whatever dude! Yeah, go ahead & Ban me, I'm shaking like my life revolved around this forum. 1st post, 1000th post makes no difference; I pray to God everyday to give me patience for fools like u; till then, I don't suffer stupid mofos like u kindly. It's funny how some of u biatch!es come here to attack people's personalities and when u get someone to stand up to u, u starting moaning. And by the way, if u knew anything about upbringing, u wont be a b1tch today.

There's a reason why this is a "Dating and Meet up Zone"; it's either the webmaster was intelligent enuff to think up such a good idea or you are a zombie. Methinks both of my assumptions are right. The funny thing is you came into this forum to do what? Perhaps to date men otherwise u'd also be suffering from the same complex problem u accused the poster of.

Lady Dee, I'm feeling u, let's rub mind

amynat:
thanks guys because the person am dating doesn't value it, he is always like virginity doesn't mean anything this days but i love this guy and i want to keep my virginity for him.

U want to keep it for him or from him? If it's the former, aint u with him? Anywayz, mabe he values it (but that's not the issue); the dude just wants to hit the sack, that's the only reason he's trying to "devalue" ur virginity. The truth is ur virginity is only of value to u!.