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wat exactly is the govt. doing about these tinapa now,is the place to fully functioning and all the govt. wahala gone?

This is a great question, but my concern is not even what the govt. is currently doing with the place, but if the govt. has a well structured strategy in place to maintain the place for the next 30 yrs.

The Fed Govt. doesn't see anything beyond their nose. It is all about what the place looks like today, but the future has no hope just like other big projects.
The only Fed Govt. property that is being maintained on a regular is ASO ROCK.

Nothing in Nigeria will be great until we seriously start implementing long lasting plan to maintain all these big Fed Govt. projects for many yrs to come.

@poster:
It is always nice to be optimistic, but the crap you've posted says nothing about this beautiful place called Tinapa Water Park. What you've posted looks like somebody's mansion in the village.

There is no need to rush, I think you should take your time to find better pictures to post.
You have degraded the place.

Over 20m job opportunities can not be created because of poor power supply.
What do you expect and why are you so surprised?

Very poor power supply, no regular water supply, no jobs, poor education, poor leaders, extremely poor medical standard, bad roads, and weak security for the citizens.
With all these deficiencies, what exactly do you guys expect? 20% below poverty line?
Please do not be surprised.

The only way to elevate the poverty level in Nigeria is by giving citizens access to simple things like water supply, good security, constant power supply etc.
I was told that Nigeria is losing almost 500m dollars a day because of poor power supply.

I think 92% is incorrect, let us try 98.5%.

What's the difference btw Mustapha and Ribadu?

There was no difference btw Mustapha and Ribadu. If there was any, it would be be Ribadu being a little bit more louder and wanting power badly.
But mostly their functionality as Fed Govt officials was closely the same.

If he believed the Jos police wanted him dead, travelling out of Jos as soon as possible makes sense

You got it wrong.
If he believed the jos police wanted him dead, it would have been a suicide for any sensible person to attempt to travel by road out of Jos.
After going through such a situation, it doesn't make any sense to travel by road out of jos. Do you know how many police check points are there between Jos and Abuja?
The right thing to do is to create as much as possible attention, have a lot of people around you and fly out of Jos as soon as possible.

You just don't travel by road alone at night in Nigeria (btw 6pm and 8pm) when you know that you're wanted dead.
Ribadu's story makes no sense as usual.

Ribadu is an hero to foolish people who also have no respect for law.

SideNote: to be against Ribadu's action doesn't mean you hate the guy, it simply means you want more for your country. And what Ribadu has shown us is not what we need for this country. I have confidence that Nigeria has others who can simultaneously get the job done accurately and also acknowledge the law of the land.

Why should we settle?
Settling only gets less than half of the job done, which usually result into long lasting low standard in everything.
Instead of wasting time analysing all the things Ribadu did correctly or incorrectly, I think we should start using our energy and time on discovering others who can get the job done correctly. And these individuals may even be among us.

Time doesn't wait for anybody or any country, please let us move on.

I love this guy. They said he was declared wanted, they also said the wil extradite him. Now the guy willingly on his own, visited the country, went to a very open and public place (Gani Fawehinmi's house) and then Abuja before going back to the US.

I do not hate the guy, it will be a waste of time.
But if we understand 1 or 2 things about the way things go in Nigeria, we wouldn't be quick to give so much credit to Ribadu for showing up again.

What is going on here is called political game, and Ribadu is part of the game. Even though, he was forced into taking part because at first he did not totally understand the game, but do not let us be fooled, he's now a major part of the Nigerian political game.

FYI: They knew he was coming (because he made the arrangement in advance).

SideNote: Ribadu is also my guy, but I hate to be taken for a fool.

Capital "NO"

@topic: This will be very interesting

These ridiculous people who have been programmed to believe that wealth should concentrate and remain in the hands of a few Nigerians, while others should not even have a chance. What creates that kind of a mindset in Nigeria? Did anyone know Fashola was so capable until he had a chance to prove himself?E gba mi o.

Instead of beating around the bush since yesterday, you should have come up with this statement right from start. At least we now know where you're coming from.
I do not care who produces stable electric supply in this country, I'll just love to see it done asap.

Reading all these comments, I see 2 groups:

Group 1 seems to feel that our power supply problem is created by the existence of greed, politics and lack of will power. This group feels that once the politics part is eradicated, it will be a matter of discovering an individual that understands success and has what it takes to be successful to bring Nigeria out of darkness.
Group 2 focuses more on the political problems that are preventing us from coming out of the darkness.

Personally, I think both groups are saying the samething we have been saying for many years.
My question is: what should we do to stabilize power supply in this country. I will appreciate a real answer this time and not just wasting time tell us about all the problems surrounding power supply. I think we've heard enough of it.

Am i lost?, Whts the Topic?

Exactly, I'm lost too.
I believe the purpose of the topic is whether Mike Adenuga could use his magic to implement a plan that will solve our retarded electric supply problem.

To answer your question:

From what I've listed, what do you think is missing?

This is the list of missing things: Lack of natural bullheadedness, lack of pure dedication, lack of prodigious vision, lack of gigantic stamina and lack of immense wisdom.
Also lack of genuine leadership.

@Topic: I totally agree.

Just few months ago the former CBN boss assured Nigerians that everything was ok. What happened?
The loans which were given away by all these banks were in-fact not properly managed or were not properly given. We've also been told that some of these loans were more than 3 years old.
Soludo was clearly in-charge during the time most of these loans were given. So how come nobody is talking about Soludo being arrested or at-least being questioned?
The question we should be asking is: Should Soludo be held responsible for any of the current banking sector mess?

OK, I got your point, but please be kind enough to pay attention, read and understand statement before diving in.
Number 1. I haven't accused the fed govt for doing anything, I have only stated that fed govt needs to be careful not to make any unnecessary mistake that would jeopardize this case.
Number 2. I am not defending or accusing Ms Cecilia because  I do not know what really occurred during her time as CEO.
Number 3. If you go through all the posts on this topic you'll notice that posters here have already concluded that Ms Cecilia is a thief and deserves every single thing she is currently going through.
Number 4. My conclusion says:Regardless of the crime or who has been arrested, all we are saying is for the fed govt to completely acknowledge the human rights law through out this process.
This is the only way the outcome of the process or prosecution will be favorable to Nigeria and everyone of us.

So player, what are you talking about, what is wrong with you and where exactly are you from?

This is not good at all. It saddens me that we are so so so far behind on basic human right in Nigeria, isn't all suspect innocent until proven guilty? if you detain a person, He/she becomes your responsibility and it is your job to ensure she is not dead by the time she goes to trial! If that means getting a mosquito repellent so be it.
If a "powerful" woman can be treated so, I feel for the ordinary citizen.

Thank you for posting this statement.
It is sad indeed that many of these kids can not see beyond their nose.
When I read some of these childish posts on this topic, I see lack of foresight, and a quick envisioning of only the immediate event and nothing else.

We have to grow to move forward in this country.
How this lady is treated may actually affect many of us directly or indirectly, but it is unfortunate that most of us can not see it this way.

If she is guilty, she should be punished, but she should also be allowed to defend herself in a court of law.

I hope you people understand that as a Nigerian, one doesn't have to be a bank CEO or a politician or a corrupt citizen to fall into the same trap or experience what Ms Cecilia is currently going through.
Once your human rights is taken away from you, you're less than an ordinary street goat.

Regardless of the crime or who has been arrested, all we are saying is for the fed govt to completely acknowledge the human rights law through out this process.
This is the only way the outcome of the process or prosecution will be favorable to Nigeria and everyone of us.

We can not be acting like bunch of lawless barbarians and expect this country to be productive.
Instead of making fool of ourselves, may be we should redirect all that energy into focusing on evidence and making sure that she gets her chance to defend herself in a court of law.

Ms Cecilia is another Nigerian citizen and how she is treated regardless of her crime could indirectly affect each and everyone of us.
We must clearly understand the importance of acknowledgement of Human Rights law through out this process.

Good one, Sam
Nobody should be guilty unless he or she is proven guilty in a court of law.
The problem here indicates that people are tired and hopeless to the point of crucifying anyone in Nigeria that is accused of corruption without any evidences.

And it is possible that this lady could be guilty of all charges, but let us simply chill-out and allow her to defend herself.

We have to grow as a society before we can move forward.

What she is doing (whether it's true or false) is what is commonly done among people at her level. It is now up to the court to determine if her situation in detention should be revised or not.
As this process goes on, her lawyers are paying extra attention to human rights law, and in-fact would prefer this law to be violated.
There was a reason why she handed herself over to EFCC directly from the hospital.

She should be back home by Friday.

@Depilot
What does handle correctly mean?

@youngies: You seem to be fairly cognizant of the law, why don't you go ahead and tell me?

If she is guilty she should be punished, but at the same time fed govt must acknowledge human rights law or else this case will result into another rat race scenario.

@youngies: do you know that her lawyers are wishing for this lady to be mistreated?
All I'm saying is for the fed govt to pay attention to the past and follow all necessary steps to avoid mistakes.

If Balogun and Alams cases were handled correctly, both parties would have still be eating beans today.

Nigerians are confused.
Back in those days when Ribadu arrested and treated corrupt government officials like shit, these are the same Nigerians that cried foul play. And till today this confusion or unstable state of mind of Nigerians has placed most of these cases in disarray.
When are we going to learn that rofurofu doesn't produce anything fruitful?

I honestly believe that mistreating these people will only produce another unfavorable outcome just like in the past. And poor invisible Nigerians will continue to cry louder than yesterday.
So, why can't we promote taking the right steps and stop thinking backward?

Nobody is guilty until proven guilty in the court of law.

we must then stop acting like lawless barbarians and encourage fed govt not to miss a single step in prosecuting all these people.

Pay attention, please!

We should learn one or two things from the past.
If positive outcome is what we are wishing for, we must then stop acting like lawless barbarians and encourage fed govt not to miss a single step in prosecuting all these people.

Regardless of her crime, while she is detained I hope the fed govt fully understands that they are responsible for her well- being.
There is no need to make any unnecessary mistake at this point, they must obey the human rights and treat her with respect. She should be provided with any necessary medical attention if that is what she wants or needs.
Nobody is guilty until proven guilty in the court of law.

I think this is the only way Nigeria will witness positive outcome.

senani:
what do you expect mark and his pdp chop chop croonies to say , clinton said it as it is , efcc no longer functional anyways.

I think David Mark has taken the appropriate steps any leader (corrupt or not corrupt) would have taken. Americans would have also stepped up to defend their country if you call the republican new political tactic racist.

News that Abachs's kid is going to be involved in Nigerian politics (after all this family has stolen from us) shouldn't have been welcomed at all, something drastical should have been done immediately the new got out. But noone is bold enough to stand up.

If you take a close look at things in Nigeria, you will know that people like Ribadu or Farida can't solve our problems, they will only make some noise for some time.
Our problems can only be solved by all of us coming together to fight corruption from the bottom to the top.