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is that it. answering questions with questions
when yu face a question (a question on the basic tenets of your religion)like this that yu find yurself not being able to ansa. then it seems truth is staring at ur face but u r chosing to ignore it

first questions are asked because we seek ANSWERS
possible answers could be
1. i dont know (no idea)
2. i know (the answer is ......)
ok lets make a deal, lets answer this question and then we can answer ur own questions about Oyedepo and co. do u agree.


you guys have "falled" my hands o
this is jst a simple jamb question that requires an answer.
anyway forgive me the "asker" for not giving options
pls choose one of the following options
a. Mary did not direct us to pray to her (We are just doing ova sabi)
b. Mary asked us to pray to her (u no men now, they love their mother, they will not hesitate to ansa their mothers' request). u find this in the book of............
c. Mary would have said so, its just that.......

[quote author=LagosShia][/quote]bro, though related to my post. my question is quite different from dt guys. just incase yu ddnt get my question i wil repeat it.

did Moses talk to his people about Allah or not

one way yu could get around this is by saying
Moses talked to his people about a one God but he used thier hebrew tongue annd referred to that God as Yahweh. (In this case yu would be implying that Yahweh and Allah are same) or u cud say
he talked to his people about Allah specifically using the Arabic word, but then the Isrealites chose another God Yahweh.

from here we cn now move on
by now yu should c that am not here for argument sake. i seek clarity. thank u

LagosShia: please review this thread:
https://www.nairaland.com/993524/christians-god-yaweh-he-same

you sound like "Ayomivic";repeating past topics.

the fact that somone has asked the question before does not mean someone else should not ask that same question. Am not here to make arguments for arguments sake. when i pose a statement, i do so because i expect people who know better to either correct me or agree with me.when i ask questions i do so becos i expet answers and not to regurgitate arguments.

Now i would liken you to a teacher in a school whose students ask him a question and instead of giving them an answer he says "wait a minute, i think Bayo of 2006 set asked this question" then rushes in to his archives to get the recording of that particular Bayo's class to play it for the kids.my point is try to answer each new question. yu dnt have to give a long lecture. a short straitghforward ansa wil do. then u can then refer them to important sites or former posts. thanks

#Anyways, thanks for dropping by, how come yu left just like that on this thread
nairaland.com/1242521/lagosshai-vedaxcool-thaba1234-others-muhammad

991: believe me dude, i know a lot more about god(s) and angels more than you think.

dats gud to know, hope u dnt mind lecturing us

991: @OP- when i first read the topic, i knew it was Anti-Catholicism. nevertheless, i recommend you study more/ do more researches on religions and their origins before condemning one particular dogma by one particular denomination.
am not a believer of religion(s) but at least catholic as a denomination has its history dated back from time immemorial, even the founder of your current church is aware of that. the fact that your current church was founded by a nigerian man and his wife makes no room for blasphemy on Holy Roman Catholic Church. The problem is that religion has never been the same since Men has made it to depend on their own charisma.

is this an answer or an advice. am looking for answers.
wt do yu say abt d op

by d way can yu point out to me the condemnation u discovered in the post. thank u

in the last few days, i seem to have developed a form of curiosity on islam. but it seems muslims are not willing to educate others on thier religion
#anyways i stiill gat to ask my questions hoping one day a good shiekh will answer me.

my question is this
Muslims claim that Allah sent other prophets before Muhammed. and their message was islam and oneness of Allah. these prophets include Abraham, Noah and Moses.

If for example Moses talked to his people about Allah. how come there is no body not even one israelite that knows the God of thier fathers to be Allah. where did Yahweh come from to replace Allah

its either Moses talked to them about Allah or he did not

#deSika:I seek to know

Ollymore: Allah bears so many name like al salam, al raheem, al qudus, al jabaar. Etc

thanks
so can someone say Al salaam akbar

@ thorpido
these guys are not saying anything. perhaps they are stil consulting with their scholars and websites.
there is a place inthe is it quran or hadiths that say when truth comes falsehood flees.

@NL Moslems
wat silence
there is nothing wrong in admitting that u have bin wrong all this while especially on this issue. common life still goes on.

am glad for this opportunity to pas this message across.

anyways Vedaxcool has just become my most respected muslim of the year. atleast for saying something but yu dd not finish with the points o. i no u r busy. so wen u r free drop bye.

i once saw Sheihk Thaba viewing this thread.
Salaam

991: the above statement makes religion irrelevant, all the figures/characters worshiped in religion are apparently dead.

lol, God is not dead, angels r not dead

we all know that Jesus made so many claims one of which is 'No one cometh to the father except by me", he is the messiah bla bla bla. and instructed on somany things.

Now can anyone give me reference where Mary or the saints asked us to pray to them or to honour her.

the reason i asked this is because people may just be doing thing they think is right as concerning Mary but never come to the shocking revelation that Mary never asked or directed them to do so.

so why do something when you ve not bin asked to do such. the one you were asked to do you ve not finished doing it.

back to my question.
were we directed to honour Mary, pray to her for assitance or intercession,make images of her bla bla bla. references from the bible or quran will be apreciated. thank u

keyword: directed, instructed

if you are looking for modesty and sanity, the place to go is the church but no not any more.

Just seeing some christian ladies on their way to or from church annd yu wonder wat they go there to do. especially in many new generation churches.

is it not included in one of your many moral laws.
i have neva seen a muslim dressed immodestly inside or outside their place of worship

salaam Aleikun
questions are usually asked to seek clarifications on issues so as to avoid wrong assumptions and also to gain knowledge. on this ground, i ask my question


what is the name of God in Islam. Moslems call God Allah. but am confused. because Allah means 'the-God' from Al-Illah. Now how can 'the-God' be the name of God. Just as you cant say 'the-Man' is the name of the man. So my question is what is the personal name of God in Islam thanks..

i asked this quetion to clarify some points i just couldnt reconcile
1. the new testament mentions some churches but neva identifies any as roman catholic church. so how could the RCC have existed b4 them.
2. Christ is the founder and centre of christianity. even though some apostles found thier way to rome later. the bible clearly tells us that the disciples met together to pray and study scriptures after christ departure. now what else defines church but this (coming together to fellowship). since Jesus did not migrate his followers to rome its only natural that they would have held their meetings in their immediate vicinities. ie israel

so i think the problem arises when we dont clearly define what a church is. perhaps to them chuurch is just organised structure of believers having buildings. so maybe we can start from here.

what do u think church means. To me, church means an assembly or gathering of beleivers. it can be under a mango tree or in my room

I want to know if this claim by somepeople is true or false

know Islam is here to stay and certain religions have died out

easy bro, am not contending this with you at all
my contention is the tittle of this thread. thanks for the advice anyway


#Am using this opportunity to invite all our muslim brothers to the discussion table. Especially Thaba1234 and Maclantunji

You were the same person saying the next Comforter would be like Jesus a man, does a man live forever, even the bible says the it is ordained for every man to die . . . So before u beg us we have to clarify with you, do u agree Jesus meant a man like himself when he refered to the comforter! And are you in essence saying this man Jesus spoke about would live forever (agreeing to this invalidates point 2, which means the comforter jesus spoke would be very much unlike Jesus who is not with us here on) in essence it would the entire prophecy useless and untenable!

my brother thats a gud question. am not the one to answer u on that. let the bible speak for itself.
but let me ask u another question. if the bible says the comforter who lives forever is like Jesus dont you think that it means that Jesus lives forever. just a question. this question raises yet another question if Jesus living on earth lives forever what does it mean. can a living human being live forever. is there something special about Jesus we have to find out.

my point is that a living huma being can not be said to live forever. Jesus in equating himself with someone that lives forever is trying to tell us that he lives forever. yet again only God lives forever. here again we find Jesus supposedly blasphemy. Either he is blashemy or he is stating a fact. i didnt say anything o. am just deducing from the christian bibles statemtent
i was sceptical in making this last post. because i ddonnt want us to derail the thread.someone might just feed on this and use it to take towards another direction. i just wanted to point something in regards to yr questtion. so pls let us kip to the thread. thanks for ur understanding

sory i meant to type
it cant be option b because we are taliking about a comforter that is an 'HE' HE shall abide with u forever, HE shall glorify me etc.

vedaxcool: 3. I couldn't get what u were saying!

4. You were the same person saying the next Comforter would be like Jesus a man, does a man live forever, even the bible says the it is ordained for every man to die . . . So before u beg us we have to clarify with you, do u agree Jesus meant a man like himself when he refered to the comforter! And are you in essence saying this man Jesus spoke about would live forever (agreeing to this invalidates point 2, which means the comforter jesus spoke would be very much unlike Jesus who is not with us here on) in essence it would the entire prophecy useless and untenable!

I would u advise u choose ur next words carefully!

Muslims uderstand this words to mean the teachings of the next comforter would abide forever, as u would know Islam is here to stay and certain religions have died out!

aha ye we go again. i need clarity on this issue.
who or what do yu say the periclytos is
a. Mohammad or
b. teachings of the Mohammad (the next comforter)
if u ask me i wud say the answer is non of the above
it cant be Mohammad, why dats wat i hv been trying to say in this thread
it cant be option b because we are a comforter that is an 'HE' HE shall abide with u forever, HE shall glorify me etc.

am not here for argument sake. after showing yu why Mohammad is not the comforter, then we will move on to who the comforter is. so lets not jump the gun uhn.

vedaxcool: 3. I couldn't get what u were saying!

4. You were the same person saying the next Comforter would be like Jesus a man, does a man live forever, even the bible says the it is ordained for every man to die . . . So before u beg us we have to clarify with you, do u agree Jesus meant a man like himself when he refered to the comforter! And are you in essence saying this man Jesus spoke about would live forever (agreeing to this invalidates point 2, which means the comforter jesus spoke would be very much unlike Jesus who is not with us here on) in essence it would the entire prophecy useless and untenable!

I would u advise u choose ur next words carefully!

Muslims uderstand this words to mean the teachings of the next comforter would abide forever, as u would know Islam is here to stay and certain religions have died out!

my third point is this
John 14:16 says And I will pray the father, and he shall give you another PARACLETE, that he may abide with you forever.
muslim scholars say no its
And I will pray the father, and he shall give you another PERIQLYTOS, that he may abide with you forever.
Which means
And I will pray the father, and he shall give you another MOHAMMAD, that he may abide with you forever.
I hope u get it now. my question now is who was the Mohammed before this Mohammed(neva mind that some muslims say Mohammed was the first to bear the name,they may be lying)
the point is if there was no Mohammad before Mohammad then it nullifies that statement.

are you stiill with me

vedaxcool: 2. Ur second point is quite laughable the word allos means so many things that the muslims interpretation will hold regardless:

allos: other, another
Original Word: ἄλλος, η, ον
Part of Speech: Adjective
Transliteration: allos
Phonetic Spelling: (al'-los)
Short Definition: other, another,
different
Definition: other, another (of more
than two), different.

biblesuite.com/greek/243.htm

Now Jesus clarifies an important difference between him the current comforter and the next:


John 16:7-14 "Nevertheless I tell you the
truth; It is expedient for you that I go
away: for if I go not away, the Comforter
will not come unto you; but if I depart, I
will send him unto you. And when he is
come, he will reprove the world of sin,
and of righteousness, and of judgment:
Of sin, because they believe not on me;
Of righteousness, because I go to my
Father, and ye see me no more; Of
judgment, because the prince of this
world is judged. I have yet many things
to say unto you, but ye cannot bear
them now. Howbeit when he, the Spirit
of truth, is come, he will guide you into
all truth : for he shall not speak of
himself; but whatsoever he shall hear,
[that] shall he speak: and he will shew
you things to come. He shall glorify me:
for he shall receive of mine, and shall
shew [it] unto you."

Jesus says he has many to say but they cannot bear that the comforter will guide them to all truth meaning this coming comforter will be bring messages that would differ significantly than what he brought hence here Jesus is already highlighting difference between him and the next comforter!

Hence we can quibble with words and it will get us no where allos means another of the same kind, Jesus has clarified this point!

bro y did u not paste the full information on that site. you pasted a part and left d most important part. why did u leave out the main definition why agiain i ask y. here is the site yu pasted.
allos: other, another Original Word: ἄλλος, η, ον Part of Speech: Adjective Transliteration: allos Phonetic Spelling: (al'-los) Short Definition: other, another, different Definition: other, another (of more than two), different. 243 állos (a primitive word) – another of the same kind; another of a similar type.
take notice of the last sentence.
anyways if yu say that the periqlytos has a diferent message from Jesus then it means yu are proving your muslim scholars wrong because all of them say that Mohammed is like Jesus.
my question remains:
is Mohammed similar to Jesus as in Johns gospel or not similar to him as can be seen in Deut 18. answeer needed

@Bro Vedaxcool, seriosly i really appreciate ur responses, and tnks for dealing with the op.now to your posts

vedaxcool: I understand the father in Jesus statement to be an alternative to saying Lord/God, hence when Jesus says I will pray the father sends . . .to mean I will pray the lord . . . As Jesus often uses Lord and father to mean the same person God!

I will address your other points one after the other!

am trying not to misconstrue u. are u saying we can use the term father to mean God. nevertheless i think we would be saying the same thing. ie God is father and as a father must have offsprings (or you saying God cannot be father as per having offsprings but can be referred to as father ie father is another word for God)
now this confusing.why call God a teacher when he canot not teach, why call God a President when he does not preside in the same way why call God father when he does not "father".
whether u try to use metaphorical interpretation or not u would still be arriving at the same thing which is that ANYTHING REFERRED TO AS FATHER MUST HAVE SOME ATTRIBUTE WHICH THE WORD FATHER HAS.
my position is this: father means father(a relationship). so its either God is father and should be referred to as that or he is not and should not be referred to as such. i would oblige u to choose one

guys pls no foul language. we are all here to learn

vedaxcool: Peace



Let me first explain what we muslims hold to be the truth about the bible and the Islam.

1. We muslims take the words of the Qur'an as the absolute truth requiring no validation neither support from any book! We decide validating the Qur'an mainly to non - muslims. Using what appeals to their logic! Hence the prophet hood of Muhammad pbuh for a muslim is clearly 100% truth, I don't need to believe verses in the bible to accept that fact, my belief in his prophet hood is 100% from the Qur'an. So when muslims prove to you that prophet Muhammad pbuh was talked about in the bible, they do so to convince you not themselves!

Another thing, bro
Agreed, you are trying to convince non muslims. if the quran does not require validation as u say, dont you think you will be erring when you DECIDE to validate it for any reason whatsoever? if it does not require validation then it does not require validation for whatsoever reason (what u are saying without u knowing is that the quran needs validation to an extent to the non muslim.so pls watch wat u say,ur choice of words it can be used against u). thank me later

vedaxcool: Peace



Let me first explain what we muslims hold to be the truth about the bible and the Islam.

1. We muslims take the words of the Qur'an as the absolute truth requiring no validation neither support from any book! We decide validating the Qur'an mainly to non - muslims. Using what appeals to their logic! Hence the prophet hood of Muhammad pbuh for a muslim is clearly 100% truth, I don't need to believe verses in the bible to accept that fact, my belief in his prophet hood is 100% from the Qur'an. So when muslims prove to you that prophet Muhammad pbuh was talked about in the bible, they do so to convince you not themselves!


2. No offence intended, Muslims do not consider the bible the true word of God, as we believe that the bible currently in existence have been severely altered that the True message of God was lost, and that it though it contains little of divine message, the bulk of it are the words of men! Hence not every word ascribed to Jesus do I accept to be his words!

Now that being cleared I will address your points little by little, bat actually low!


1. We can say he was speaking allegorically, and using Jewish idioms, as jesus told the Jews in the verse (sorry can be quoting verses replying from my fone) where the Jews accused him of blasphemy and his response was that "is it not written in your scripture that yee are gods" it seems he was refering to Pslam, anycase in the above verse we see Jesus agreeing with the Jews (religious preist) that they are gods, now if you insist that the verse is not metaphorical and Jesus was speaking to his father (he actually said I will pray the father - with out possessing the father as in I will pray to my father) then you would have to accept that the Jews priests are gods and the implication of having multiple gods on earth, hence my point is Jews then including Jesus spoke in metaphors and this was just one of them!

bro, thanks for responding. but my question is what is the metaphorical meaning of father as used by Jesus. since you say we should not take it literally.so what do you understand father to mean. also wat do you think about the other points in the op




@LagosShia, thanks for your response but i will appreciate if you relate with me directly as in pick the points in the op and deal with dem rather than quoting your past discussions. thanks for your understanding.



#still awaiting the input of Sheikh Thaba, Maclatunji and others
Salaam aleikun

brother am finding it difficult to understand u, pls correct me if am wrong. this is what i think you tryying to pass across
1. the holyspirit is not the paraclete
2. the spirit of truth is a prophet as u hv shownn frm d bible
now ds does not address the points raised in the op. as am not arguing about the holyspirit being the paraclete and the spirit of truth being a prophet.
pls address the points raised in the op. thank yu

. We can say he was speaking allegorically, and using Jewish idioms,

pls can you explain the alegorical or metaphoric meaning of the statement

(he actually said I will pray the father - with out possessing the father as in I will pray to my father

whether the father or my father, there is still father inside. now what or who does that mean.
thanks for responding

Uch74: Everything the Bible said has always come to past......Christianity is life, light & reality...Every miracle that happened in the Bible has been repeated in my day by the desperate faith of men just as Jesus said.....Over 2,000 yrs after Jesus ascended into heaven,God's word is still changing lives & situations.....If ur religion is not changing lives for good or bringing succor to the hopeless, then it's fake.....

so you saying that the right religion must change lives for good.
do you mind sharing with us the right 'brand' of christianity.
the last time i checked there were a lot of christian sects all having different doctrines

@thorpido
just trying to show them that putting Mohammed into those verses does more harm than good to islam. just imagine, they dont believe that God begets yet they belive that Jesus was going to pray to a God that begets to send Mohammed (Periqlytos)

muslim brothers wat you guys have to say. am waiting for your rebuttals or acceptance

i tried spacing out, but it just didnt work.

this question applies to everyone theist,non theist and atheist.

what guarantees do you have to show that the path you are following is the right one.
how can you convince someone who is searching for a stand to take on religion, that the stand you are taking is the real deal.
if you say religion,then what are the qualities of the right religion
if you say atheism, why

Salaam aleikun
If there is any verse that talks about Prophet Muhammad in the bible, the book of John should not be among them. I am bewildered to see that the Muslim world thinks otherwise. If only the muslim scholars who explain the comforter as Muhammad knew they were shooting themselves in the foot and committing shirk, I doubt if they would ever take such a disastrous position.


Muslims Scholars say the word translated comforter in John's gospel is paraclete which was originally periqlytos meaning honored one, admired one or praised one and that this corresponds to Muhammeds name in greek.


Ok now lets agree that Jesus intended his comforter to be Muhummad, since periqlytos means admired one or honored or praised one which actually is Mohammed's name. We will discover that this only brings up a lot of problems for us. let’s begin


John 14:16 says And I will pray the father, and he shall give you another comforter, that he may abide with you forever.


1. What! which father are we talking about here. What happened to Sura 112:3 that says he is neither begotten nor is born. Allah is never mentioned in the quran as father). If you agree that Jesus was talking about Muhammad here, then it means you are accepting that he was to pray to his FATHER to send Muhammad.
The problem here is that, Jesus here is committing shirk by referring to God as father. And by agreeing to that statement you are unknowingly committing shirk (associating partners i.e sons to him). Or what else does shirk mean? But if there is a father, then there must be a son. Question now is, who is the son of the father Jesus was going to pray to?


2. And he shall give you another comforter
Another, here is translated from allos which talks about another of the same kind, meaning another comforter like Jesus. Inserting Muhammed’s name here shows utter desperation by muslim scholars. First in Deuteronomy 18 they claim that Jesus and Muhammad are nothing alike (implicitly; they say that Jesus is not like Moses and that Muhammad was), but now all of a sudden Jesus and Muhammad are very similar! They can’t have their cake and eat it too! If Jesus and Muhammad are alike enough that Muhammad can be the one prophesied in John 14:16, then they are similar enough for Jesus to also fit the qualifications to have been the prophet of Deuteronomy 18. They can’t have it both ways. Its either Muhammad is like Jesus in John's gospel or he is not like Jesus in Deuteronomy. Which one is it? Talking from both sides of the mouth uhn!


3. We cannot just insert Muhammeds name here on the basis of name interpretation. So Just because Muhammeds name means honored one or one to be praised and periqlytos/periclytos means the same, should we take that verse to mean Muhammed?


We can only take this position if the verse read "And i will pray the father and he shall give you another whose name is honored one" but the verse reads "And i will pray the father and he shall give you another honored one" that is to say "to give you another Muhammed". Here we have another problem in our hands.
Reading this verse to mean another Muhammad which is what the muslims scholars are asking us to do will therefore mean that there was a Muhammed before the promised Mohammed and that Jesus is this Muhammed. Let me break it down
One whom people praise exceedingly = periqlytos
one whom people praise exceedingly = Muhammad
Therefore Periqlytos = Muhammad
So if we say ' to send you another periqlytos' then we can say 'to send you another Muhammad'
Am sure you get it now. Who is this Muhammad before the promised one. Definitely not Jesus whose name means God will save or God saves.


4. That he may abide with you forever.
Sorry brothers do you mean an eternal Muhammad, oh pls, try something else. Of all the reasons why we should not be talking about Muhammad in this verse, this one actually drives home the point. Did he meet the criteria of 'foreverness'.
Now some people out there will say Mohammed’s teachings are still with us today. They dont realise that they are adding more fuel to the fire. That statement talks about an "he".when did mohammed's teachings become an "he"?.


5. Verse 17 says Even the spirit of truth whom the world cannot receive, because he seeth him not, neither knoweth him;but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you and shall be in you.


This verse shows the criteria for the comforter which Muhammad clearly did not meet. Muhammad could be seen and did not dwell in any person


6. Now lets go over to John 14:26 "but the comforter which is the Holyspirit whom the father will send in my name."


Now lets pretend we didnt see holyspirit there. But wait a minute! Is there something you are not telling me? Muhammad sent in Jesus name! Muslim scholars are so desperate and will i say ignorant that they dont know they are causing a great disservice to Islam and many muslims especially in nairaland will subscribe to their reasoning. To them it matters not as far as Mohamed can be shown to be in the bible.


If you accept this verse then it means that you agree that Jesus is a higher authority and operating on a different level than Muhammed. Lets consider this example. A minister cannot send the President in his(the minister’s) name to represent him in a function, rather it’s the President that sends the minister in the Presidents name. The name signifies authority that must be responded to even in the President’s absence. The minister acts on the king’s authority not on his own authority.


So my brothers, accepting this verse as speaking of Mohammed is tantamount to accepting the fact that Mohammed was to act on Jesus’ authority and not on his own, since he was sent in Jesus name. This is the position you put yourself when you put Mohammed’s name in that verse. This has a greater weight, for if Muhammed is sent in Jesus name then Muslims ought to deeply find out about this Jesus on whose name their great prophet is sent. (I didn’t start it o, you guys were the ones that said that your prophet will be sent in Jesus name)


7. John 14:26 continues "He shall teach you all things and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you. Question is, can you tell me the things that Muhammad said that Jesus said when he (Jesus) was on earth. Am talking about Jesus’ teachings.


8. Finally, If we are to accept that Jesus was speaking about Prophet Mohammad in these verses, are we not saying that Prophet Jesus must be a weird guy. Or how else can you explain a prophet who promises his disciples a "periqlytos" only for this periqlytos to show up in a differnt location about 600 yrs after the disciples had died. Except maybe by chance his disciples migrated to Saudi Arabia and lived there over 600 yrs. This must be a miracle.


Wow what a long write up.
Notice that i presented my arguments based on the Islamic scholars’ position and disregarded the claim by Christians(those guys could be confusing sometimes) that paraclete means holyspirit.


FINAL WORD: its either Mohammed is talked about in John's gospel or he is not. If he is, then i put it to you that you are guilty of shirk, for the one who is being prayed to for the gift of the comforter is a God father (as in a God that begets and his offsprings have become partners with him)


Its either Mohammad is similar to Jesus in John 14,15 and 16 or he is not in Deut 18. Which one is it?


CONCLUSION: Muslim scholars and their nairaland counterparts in trying to authenticate Mohammad’s prophetic status want to see his name in the scriptures of other religions. But they fail to do this with reasoning and never consider that they may shooting themselves in the foot.
If their lies have been exposed on Johns gospel then they cannot be trusted with interpretations on Deuteronomy and others.

Meantime, Mallam Sanusi identified corruption as the bane of the development in the country. He said: “Corruption is a big issue in the country today as in other parts of the world but why are they eradicating poverty and Nigeria isn’t? It is not just corruption. It is the failed interventions that are procured with the proceeds of corruption. Everyone agrees that corruption is bad. It has economic cost if you take a bribe and pay subsidy to someone who hasn’t delivered the required goods. “In Nigeria, people collect money for contract and they wouldn’t fulfill their own parts of contract and nothing is done about it. This is compounding the state of corruption in the country. What is destroying this country is that people are corrupt and nothing is done about it. “We need to be asking the civil societies what they are doing to ensure that this act is checked for the development of the country. “Some parts of Lagos are getting cleaner because of the sewage process in LagosState. These are some of the questions that we should begin to ask our public office holders today. How can someone be governor for four years and he or she fail to provide the needed facilities for his people?”
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Berating President Jonathan for the worsening waves of insecurity, he said: “My problem with the government, especially the president of this nation is that he does not seem to realise, he has not taken into consideration, into cognizance that by now the president should be addressing the nation, giving details explaining why this nation is at war.” To avert a second civil war, Soyinka said Nigerians should not see the Boko Haram insurgency as a regional problem, but as a national one. He said: “Certain things have to be done to ensure that this nation is pulled back from the second round of what is leading towards a civil war. By now, we should be tightening our belt, we should not see what is happening in the North as being confined to the North; it is obvious all along that this is not a northern affair. No! We heard that recently that some cells have been found in Lagos, that is not new, it started years ago. Boko Haram, a national problem “Everyone should understand that the problem we are facing right now is not regional it is national and a human problem. It is called Boko Haram. That is the kind of language I believe the leadership of this nation should be imparting on Nigerian citizens.” The Nobel Laureate, while commending the youths for utilizing the platform to make known their ideas said, “I was delighted when I learnt that the younger generation wanted to use this platform to voice their ideas. I want to thank the younger generations for utilizing whatever platform to reinstate our consciousness by speaking, I expect more, beyond politics, beyond mergers, beyond political parties, beyond partisanship, beyond regionalism and Roll call of personalities