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BlueRayDick:
None of Wike or Obi will win PDP’s ticket , if they do PDP will lose scandalously at the main election.

Wike doesn't want to be President. Gov. Udom doesn't want to be too. It's all a ploy to pressure the PDP to zone it to the South. And Wike pressured Udom to contest - they have been allies since 2016.

Obi's only 'flaw' in the North is where he hails from. If he were Igbo from the South South, he'd garner enough support in the North.

But Peter Obi is still the best candidate the PDP has contesting.
Of all the others, he's still the only technocrat who excelled tremendously in a previous elected position given the available finances, and he's the only one who has it on his record to have reversed the economic woes of his domain or at least bettered it.

Building bridges, stadia, and other infrastructure would not improve the economy, and that's what Nigeria needs - an economic turn around. That's where Peter Obi comes in.

if he (Peter Obi) gets the ticket, the only reason he wouldn't win is the voter apathy, in the South East especially.

In 2015, Akwa Ibom gave Goodluck Jonathan 953,000 votes and Anambra gave Goodluck a paltry 650,000 votes (I took time to paste the 2015 election results here https://www.reuters.com/article/nigeria-election-results-idINL6N0WW4UM20150331 ), yet Anambra is slightly more populated than Akwa Ibom ( here I am adding the population of Nigeria by states https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nigerian_states_by_population ).

The voter apathy is even worse in Ebonyi and Abia States. Throughout the South, actually.

Buhari won Goodluck by only 3 million votes. Compare the casted votes in the South East to the number of registered voters, and you'd realize how paltry it is.

Instead of listening to the intimidation by the North, if you properly analyse election results, you'd know the South's main problem is voter apathy. The Middle Belt vote our way, and they have the population too.


If it's not Peter Obi, Osinbajo or Fayemi, we are just voting for the lesser evil.
But for economic transformation (which is really Nigerian's main concern) if it's not Peter Obi, we are just shortchanging ourselves.

budaatum:
According to you perhaps. There are many countrys on this planet earth where you'd find it impossible to charge one for it, that's for sure, and you ain't anyone's god, disstroy.

But see what you did there. Not a murderer if, "only be when the foetus threatens the mother's life healthwise or in cases of rape", lol.

budaatum:
Spin this however straight you want to justify your supposed righteousness, diss, the facts remain that in the majority of countries on earth abortion is not murder.

Hello, my ''friend'.

Season's greetings from all the innocent children hence who would have otherwise been murderéd in Liberal-backed infanticide, but have been protected by law now.

VoteTinubu2023:
Bayern comeback king? For where. Comeback pass comeback o. Which top team 4 Europe Bayern don do big and unthinkable comeback against in recent years? Mention 1. You no Sabi anything.

I almost detailed the reply then I checked your username. Pointless really.

What's the point explaining to a single-digit-IQ young humanoid (there's no way you're human) who openly campaigns for an ailing geriatric pilfering autocrat when there are credible options like Peter Obi, Osinbajo and Fayemi? One who's madly in love with his own abuser?

Not worth it, really.

DissTroy:
If you follow the UCL closely, you'd know Madrid and Bayern are comeback kings. Never underestimate both in two-legged encounters. Any slip-up by City and it's over.

Like I said, I'm a Cule for all of time but
Madrid and Bayern are comeback kings. Never underestimate them in two-legged encounters.

Any slip-up and it's over.

kingscare1:
Internet favours ladies than men due to the fact that they can gain fans and influence from their sexual appeal photos and videos, that's why you see so many oloshos popular and unpopular ones all over the internet,

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That's because most of you men lust and follow these digital whóres.

I don't on any platform. If they are not adding any real value to the digital space, I won't follow or interact with their content; even block or mute those who post such content.

hopefulLandlord:
bro, you're saying a lot without saying much.

A winger that beats opponent defender(s), scores and assists would have limelight on him and rightly so. After all is said and done Vinicius would at the end of the season be rated very high. would probably make balon d'Or 30 list and would be regarded as one of the best in the world in his position probably top 1-5 in terms of left wingers while Pedri would keep beating him on "ESPN" lists or some lists nobody gives a rat's ass behind about but would not be regarded to be top 10 in his position in the world

- Vinicus is 22, Pedri is 19.

- Vinicus is a winger (a forward), Pedri is a central midfielder.

- Vinicus has played for Madrid since 2018 in 113 games scoring only 22 goals; Pedri started playing for Barca in 2020, in 49 games scoring 6 (only in 2021 did he become a starter too).

- Vinicus has just 3 individual awards (only one is at top level and that's La Liga player of the month); Pedri has 6 individual awards (all at continental and world levels).


Pedri has achieved more than Vinicus individually despite playing in a deeper position, being younger and playing way less games than Vinicus as a forward.

Facts don't lie. Facts don't respect emotions.

Say hi to your colleagues in Clowntopia for us!

ChristoBam:
Lol, France is getting to at least the semi finals of this world cup. No way Bezema is not winning this thing.

Deputy Jesus. Vice Krishna. Assistant Obatala.

donjazet:
You made a good point but must you always insult the person you are chatting with?? Do you have no single sense of decency?? Every single post of yours is laced with vulgarity and insults. Can you just never have a peaceful exchange of ideas and discourse with someone?? TUFIA!!

This is ironically hypocritical coming from Donjazet, the guy who is notorious for seething hatred, holding grudges spanning years - even back to 2013 ( case in point, the Nihilist squabble with you), making a thousand references derogatorily to random people's family members on this thread, and for fighting just about every single person who has ever been active on this thread.

It's like Portable telling Kizz Daniel to comport himself in public.

EmmanuelScott1:
Remove penalties from Benzema goals in League, he only pass mane with 4 goals

Their top striker in farmers league

Spanish League is a farmers' league?

We check head-to-head records Spanish teams versus English teams, check the number of transfers directly from each league to the other and the impacts the players have had in the league they moved to, and it becomes obvious the Spanish league is better.

Go down your street and veer off to Mama Musbau's shop then ask her to give you any tomato to stick your nose in. You are a clown!

homesteady:


I just tire. This is the best they can do considering the opponent. They even did well beyond my expectations.

If you follow the UCL closely, you'd know Madrid and Bayern are comeback kings. Never underestimate both in two-legged encounters. Any slip-up by City and it's over.

budaatum:
Saudi Arabia must have played that dump, or Kashoggi might have been a problem.

This is the very reason you really should submit your mental evaluation report.

I stated the Saudi's and key Leftists have been revealed to have significant stakes in Twitter, and pointed out the relation to trend suppression of the Saudi regime atrocities and Leftist bloopers, but your reply is about Trump taking pictures with the Saudis on official state visits.

You need help, and quickly too.

BasedUsername:
You should have brought up the various instances of creepy touching that we've seen from Biden over the years.

The kissing thing is not a big deal. Just most likely a cultural difference.

Are you being sarcastic?

French-kissing your granddaughter is NOT a cultural thing. The closest to that is pecks to the cheeks, not a buccal cavity assault.

No where in Biden's culture or that if his family is it cultural for his people to French-kiss relatives. Nobody even tried to defend it with this and it wouldn't sail.

Biden is an incestuous paedophile, and that's it. People who support him should live with their reality on their morality.

The more pressing issue about the Twitter debacle most people are missing is, Saudi Arabia and key Leftists have large stakes in Twitter which explains trends suppression and mass targeting of Right-leaning accounts on Twitter.

Also, it explains why there are never trends about the horrors by the UAE and Saudi government. All of these is coming after Elon Musk began asking questions on Twitter.

Not to forget that Saudi Arabia backed a Joe Biden presidency and the leftists are in and with them.

ShaqFu:
Is there a video for the bolded bro?

I've posted it here several times and these Leftists have either tried to explain it away or avoid the issue.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IB64NaY-4w

Just google "Biden kissed his granddaughter". There are several videos on YouTube , Facebook and Twitter.

They are supporting a geriatric incestuous paedophile.

budaatum:
I'm sure I was here hating drumghtbpf long before covid, ben, so how can I possibly only hate drumpthgtp because of covid?

Again, whataboutism and needless rhetorical questions to hide his hypocrisy.

The question is, at the peak of Covid-19, you blamed deaths and dwindling economy on Trump, but now, with Covid-19 tapering off and deaths increasing and the economy dwindling under Biden's watch, you don't want to blame the man who french-kissed his granddaughter on stage for health and economic woes.

Your hypocrisy always shines through.

hensben:
You are the idiot here. I didn’t talk about being rich for Barca, I said they have a good squad plus messi before pep. M u g u.

Deranged hermit!

Here's your comment implying that Pep in 2008 had a Barça with "safe finance" and "good squad".

hensben:
So it’s not a big deal winning ucl with peak messi led barca team. Pep is a smart and cun man, he purposely go for team that is safe in terms of finance and squad unlike some of his colleagues that take risky jobs.

I countered with evidence that Barça wasn't even that rich compared to the contenders (Arsenal was richer), and there were no superstars in the Barça team (except Ronaldinho who got showed the way out immediately).

Yet you pivoted with a lie that you never referred to Pep relying on 2008 Barça finance?

May drugged piranhas have a feeding frenzy on your bloated body!

Singapore1:
[/quote]First off, anybody with a phone can make claims. You should learn from me by always putting up verifiable evidence (including links) to back up claims.

You go on about earnings to 2019. The issue in point is, Barcelona was not top 7 richest clubs in 2008 when Pep Guardiola took over as even Arsenal was richer. That is a direct response to Hensbrain's claim that Pep had access to an already-made team with unilmited access to cash.

I never make arguments I never back up with evidence anyone can verify, whether in politics or football.

Whataboutism and muddying the waters aren't logical way to argue. Facts only and I'd respond.

[quote author=Jodera post=111684935]Lol, you know what I said it's true and you couldn't find anything to counter it so no need with this your examples.

Again, muddying the waters. The issues are about Pep's coaching abilities vis-à-vis Messi's rise and influence in winning games on his own, coach regardless. Let's stay on point not to muddy the waters by deviating into Salah, so I wouldn't dwell on it.

hensben:
You know nothing about your club then. Your club and Real Madrid are most corrupt club in history of football, they monopolized la liga. Stop chatting sh1t, Barca won ucl and was having a good squad before Pep, they were infected with indiscipline via Ronaldinho’s behavior, was more like a virus to the team which affected the team structure and fell out with Rijkaard. Messi was destined for greatness when the world saw his unbelievable talent at the under 20 wc. Messi and Kante are special king of player that influences teams to trophies.

Knuckledheaded dimwit, if you had half the intelligence of a cuttlefish, you'd realize my position here and over the years is, Messi is one of a kind and Guardiola is a master tactician. Two truths can exist without negating each other.

I reiterate that Barcelona wasn't super rich when Pep took it to greater heights. Here's a list of the 25 richest football clubs in 2008 (when Pep took over):

https://www.forbes.com/2008/04/30/valuable-soccer-teams-biz-soccer08-cx_jg_pm_0430soccer_land.html?sh=fa4d1e24ca36

https://www.goal.com/en/news/9/english-football/2009/04/10/1202037/manchester-united-declared-the-worlds-richest-club-ahead-of-real-
This lays to waste your argument of Pep coaching Barça when it was super rich. Facts only!

Man. United, Madrid, Bayern, Liverpool, AC Milan and even Arsenal (Arsenal!) were richer than Barcelona when Pep took over in 2008. Barça wasn't even top 6 richest football clubs.

Yet in your hubris and insane attempt to formulate arguments, shift goal posts and drive into 'whataboutismville', you just resorted to "Barça and Madrid are the most corrupt clubs in the world" nonsense. How does that help your initial stance of Barça being the richest club when Pep took over and Pep having millions to shell out?
Do you want me to show you the net spend Pep made in his first year coaching Barça yet he won the Treble?

You have a reputation of being the dumbest active poster on this thread, and if Séun were to implement recaptcha as requisite for posting, you'd be nothing more than a viewer. You'd be too dumb to figure out the authentication puzzle.

Hensbrain for a reason.

popizaino:
The fact that Mourinho couldn't win UCL with prime Ronaldo should tell me you are only capping.

Which is you reiterating what everyone knows: Messi-led Barça dominated that era so much there was little chance for anyone else.

Ironically, that prime Ronaldo won 4 UCLs without Mourinho (who hasn't been in any UCL final since 2010). If anything, it's an indictment on Mourinho than on CR. But I don't want to hold brief for the later. The focus is Pep and Messi.

Godx:
K

This is déjà vu. Some nitwit quotes me with someone anus-generated alternate fact, he gets whitewashed with verified statistics and documented events, next he resorts to quoting me with single alphabets in defeat.

Deranged barely-literate hermit!

Godx:
K

You should learn to arm yourself with facts and figures before quoting me. This is the very reason your father isn't allowed to speak in your village council because he ends up making a fool of himself. Now you are continuing the family tradition.

The next time you quote me with unfounded arguments, may God x you!

Jodera:
Oga, this was MSN era na.

Salah is a good example. Chased away from Chelsea even when he had WC potential.

Bringing up Salah in a debate about the impacts of the greatest players (s) is like sneaking in the Nigerian Civil Defense Corps in a conversation about military might where the Nigerian Airforcd and the Navy are slugging it out.

We get it. He also carries guns and can shoot well but don't push it.

Godx:
Keep mute Messi didn't win sh.itt for Enrique. Enrique assembled and created a well balanced team with the fulcrum being M.N.S. Why didn't Messi win the treble for Tata Martino or the numerous coaches he had ever since?

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Accursed offspring of a mutated newt, Enrique wasn't special.

Barça scored 158 goals in all competitions in 2014/2015 and Messi alone scored 58 goals and provided 18 assists.
He was the top scorer in La Liga and the UCL.

In comparison, Neymar and Suarez scored 39 and 25 goals in all competitions.

Under Pep, everyone scored. Under Enrique, only 3 players headed by Messi carried the team. Messi even scored more goals under Pep than Enrique and he didn't have the support of the MSN then.

But you'd never know this. Your head would be the perfect gangan since it is empty.

Jodera:
You're just the follow up of those earlier arguments na

If you don't know that it's good coaches and clubs that makes players great and mostly not otherwise. Many players have entered doldrums or haven't reached the expected heights because of the kinda coach or club they met

Pep didn't make Messi. Pep has never publicly or privately taken even the smallest credit for Messi's greatest. Instead, Pep would continually tell you he is in awe of Messi and Leo being the greatest player he has ever seen; and has kept saying this even at the other club(s) he managed/manages.

Nobody makes players like Messi, Ronaldinho and CR (as much I love to troll him). They are icings on the cakes of any decent coach and team.
Messi won an average and drab coach like Luis Enrique the Treble.
Simeone would have more trophies with peak Messi, Ronaldo or Ronaldinho. That truth is as certain as Will Smith simping.

hensben:
So it’s not a big deal winning ucl with peak messi led barca team. Pep is a smart and cun man, he purposely go for team that is safe in terms of finance and squad unlike some of his colleagues that take risky jobs.

Barcelona wasn't a super rich team in 2008/2009. Barça came third behind Villareal and Madrid. Pep's only experience was coaching Barca B team.

The irony of a Chelsea F.C. fan going on about finance when your club has been bankrolled by a billionaire oil merchant for two decades.

Barça has never had billionaire owners, or owners for that matter. No free billions to experiment with; worse even in the 2000's. Yet Pep made that team the most dominant of the decade; making superstars of mostly academy boys. All in just 3 years. Messi, Xavi, Iniesta, Pique, Alba, Valdez, Pedro, Villa...

I'd go with Peter Obi and Moghalu.

Both are proven technocrats who have recorded successes for themselves before politics.

Moghalu especially has no stain to his name or perceived enemies within and without tribal demarcations.

Itsrm:
We have tried the ones with the Diplomacy and finesse of Lekki, this is where we are.

That Oshodi underbridge thug might just be all we need.

You want to know what Wike is like at the national level?
In 2013, Wike was Minister of State for Education then Acting Minister of Education. ASUU had gone on strike and the FG called them for the usual (futile) negotiations.

Instead of negotiating with ASUU leaders (even with bogus promises if you can), Wike commanded ASUU to resume. Commanded and demanded with threats.

ASUU leaders stormed out of that building, and it led to one of the longest strikes in Nigeria: 6 months.

MC Oluomo has more diplomacy and finesse than Wike. An arrogant thug at that.

Itsrm:
Powerful speech by Wike. Sentiments aside, he's who we need.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAZHcqr_7CI

Wike has the diplomacy and finesse of an Oshodi underbridge thug.

He's the kind of president who would ask a reporter, "So you can't say good morning, Your Excellency, first?" on live TV then proceed to pinch her cheeks as a reprimand.

A kingmaker? Yes. But he shouldn't sit on such a throne.

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GloriousGbola:
you are free to believe what you want to believe.

Oh. And South West isn't as homogenous as the South South and South East so they won't just vote any South West candidate due to regional loyalty.

This isn't being confrontational or showing off but I am involved in a way.

The deciding factor for Northern presidential candidates is the Northern votes as they vote uniformly. Northern votes would be split for both Northern VPs.

If Southerners are vying as Presidents, the deciding votes would be from the South.

And if you think a third force doesn't exist, then it shows how detached you are from the political schemings of 2023.

I just gave you the date of their meeting and two involved. Go find out. Check out the names of the persons involved then you'd realize it's a consortium of political parties.

Moghalu is also involved.

But you can either make random Nairaland speculations or take it from someone with firsthand information.

GloriousGbola:
I am sorry but the last two elections made it clear, all you need is the north and sw. Numbers in the SS and SE are symbolic but ultimately don't count. Tinubu has the SW locked down.

He is actively toasting and building alliances up north. This is why even if anyone in lagos wanted to sort out the okada menace, they will not because that will be political ammunition for the opposition. Nothing will be done about okada until after the election

Peter obi rat bleeped fashola on this when beggars were deported from Lagos to Anambra. Tinubu has seen this and will do nothing about the okada menace

Really? I don't think you've ever been involved in elections at such levels.

Here's the number of registered voters per region as at 2019 released by INEC:

NC:13.36 million
NE:11.29 million
NW: 20.1 million

SW: 16.29 million
SS: 12.8 million
SE:10.06 million

SE and SS: Combined is 22.86 million voters to SW's 16.29 million voters.

https://www.pulse.ng/news/politics/this-is-state-by-state-breakdown-of-total-registered-voters-across-nigeria/4nr0720

SW has never voted one Presidential candidate since the 4th Republic. Never. Even when Obasanjo (a Southwesterner) was on the ballot. (Do confirm this.) SW vote is split.
Tinubu has more opposition to his candidacy within the Southwest to begin with.

The best shot the Southwest has of selling its candidate to secure the votes of the SE and SS is Osinbajo (and, to a lesser degree if he contests, Fayemi).

The hatred for Tinubu is seething in the SS and SE, especially due to his utterances (and those of his loyalists) to both regions post-2015.

Amaechi would rather die than see a Tinubu presidency.
Akpabio would rather be decapitated than see Tinubu be the GCFR. And these are just a few APC heavyweights in both regions.

The Southern candidates in both the APC and PDP would pick northern VPs so Northern votes would be split.


Tinubu has consulted everywhere but he is avoiding consultations in the SS and SE. Ask yourself why?

Osinbajo would easily fill stadiums in both, particularly in the SS. He's seen as the lesser evil, particularly from the APC corner.

I am no longer a fan of tinubu, but the truth is unless he kicks the bucket like abacha, he is inevitable. Pdp has nothing to offer, and there is no third force

There's a third force - a consortium of some sort. Their most recent meeting was on the 8th of March (this month).

The problem is, the money bags of the third force are deeply entrenched in the system and are holding out their cards for opportunities, while the actual drivers who are also technocrats (though very influential) are not very big money bags to fund elections of these magnitude.

Pat Utomi, Femi Falana et al are a part of that third force. A very small part. Formed in 2020.