₦airaland Forum

Amoto94:
What inspired Igbo celebrities like Peter and Paul Okoye (P-Square), Chidi Mokeme and Okey Bakassi to declare support for Peter Obi isn’t different from the reason Yoruba celebrities like Brymo, Jide Kosoko, Yinka Quadri, and Femi Adebayo endorsed Bola Tinubu.
Unfortunately, one group is marketed as “patriots” and the other aggressively ridiculed as “sellouts.” When you are done participating in this hypocrisy, you may get to grasp the relativity of your moral principles. Gimba Kakanda

Maybe. But in your case, we can certainly tell your support for Tinubu is for the Muslim-Muslim ticket and an ensivaged 'Shariastan' given your history of supporting Islamic terrorism/extremism and recently justifying the gruesome murder of Deborah.

Joezinho:
Is Lagos state the only state in Nigeria? Or do you think states like delta and bayelsa won't do everything possible for PDP to win including hiring thugs?

Northerners travel down to the north during election periods to cast their votes. If there are perceived reasons of unsafety in Lagos state, the igbos should travel back to the east before election day to cast their votes. At least they have been screaming they can make any sacrifice to get Obi to the seat of power...

Yorubas are tired of getting emotionally blackmailed..

But you claimed days ago the Egun people (who make up 15% of the indigenous population of Lagos State) are not Yorubas so all of which Yorubas are emotionally blackmailed again?

Funny how most of you who aren't indigenously from Lagos (a former FCT) lay claim to it because you are ashamed of the enclaves which are your actual states.

Like Abuja, the voting direction of Lagos is no longer entirely decided by its indigenous tribal affiliations. That's the price you pay for being an administrative capital over time.
Calabar indigenes would tell you same story.

Oasis007:


Una dey try so hard.... LOL!

Exposing hypocrites comes easy to me and in your hubris, you helped post the screenshots of you mocking other tribes unprovoked and anyone can see the context.

I'd might anything but hypocrisy? I'd shame you for it with glee.

Oasis007:
I Trying to instigate or incite religious or tribal violence ain't gonna work with me.

"Trying to instigate or incite religious or tribal violence ain't gonna work with me." OASIS007

That's rich. But here you are in the quoted comments;


1. Implying the Igbos are the ones destroying Nigeria.

Oasis007:


Thought they said it was a lie?!

I really find it hard to understand the People of a certain Region in Nigeria!

They love it when the Country is in shambles, but hate it whenever the Country is picking up?!

Why?!

https://www.nairaland.com/3314842/militant-leader-commanders-killed-rivers#48866633
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2. Mocking Ojukwu's death and attempt at remembering him.

Oasis007:

See massive Crowd?!
Ojukwu is indeed a Hero!!!

https://www.nairaland.com/3493575/5years-ojukwu-died-no-special#53662458

But, hey, you don't like tribal spats.

abobote:
Very fresh and beautiful at 47.
Her freshness de make me reason like say my wife used football age. How can she be 31, but look older than Rita Dominic that's is 47.

Happy birthday forever Young

It's what you see, the illusion.

Drumload of make-up, powerful camera studio pictures and excessive editing.

Never refer to these people as beautiful until you see them without the makeup and editing.

Haven't we all seen Eniola Badmus look ugly in live videos then look presentable in studio pictures?

You wife might be more beautiful than Rita naturally, and I only rate a woman beauty if it's natural.

Joezinho:
Oga Kay, he's not Yoruba. Is kogi Yoruba?
They bear Yoruba names and can speak Yoruba but theirs is different...

Stop this revisionist nonsense because Hundeyin attacked your drug lord candidate.

Yoruba is a group of subethnicities, a tribe with similarities in language and culture.

Until less than 250 years ago, there was no such thing as Yoruba. There were ethnicities which share similarities. Egûns of Lagos and Ogun are as Yoruba as the Aworis of Ogún State. The Ife people are just as Yoruba as the Illajes of Ondo State. Yoruba is a tribe made up of sub ethnicities.

The Abakalikis of Ebonyi have language distinctions from the Nwewis of Anambra and the Awaras of Imo but all are Igbos.

Even until 180 years ago, the Oros and Efiks all identified as Ibibio. Gov. Udom Emmanuel is from Onna LGA in Akwa Ibom and their language is distinct from the main Ibibio stock which I hail from but Gov. Udom is no less Ibibio and no Ibibio man would castigate him as such. Each Ibibio sub ethnicity has slight language distinctions from the other but all are no less Ibibio.

The Eguns are just as Yoruba as the Egbas.
I dare you to say Eguns are not Yorubas on Twitter.

Nobody has ever insistently referred to the Eguns as non-Yorubas but because David Hundeyin exposed Tinubu, you've began a revisionist descent to targeted neo-tribal cleansing against the Eguns out of nowhere.

Focus on the issue! Tinubu is a drug pusher is the issue.

Theflint1:
I've noticed that the true ethnic Lagosians have an intense hatred for Tinubu.

Maybe. But David Hundeyin exposing Tinubu isn't fueled by him not being an ethnic Lagosian. The Yorubas aren't that clannish when it comes to Yoruba state divides.

After all, David exposed Akpabio (for alleged complicity in organ harvesting) who's his mother's relative in May, 2021. Akpabio and David's mum hail from the same axis in Ikot Ekpene, Akwa Ibom.

Joezinho:
No true south Western will ever vote Obi the clown..

We will teach them a lesson that you don't abuse our hero. How dare this dysfunctional simpleton label MKO a drug lord? Thank you David, we will vote Tinubu enmass..

They should better go to their SE for votes...

Joezinho:
He's not Yoruba bro.

Obi has no past right ? He's a saint. Funny how all igbos are rooting for him...

The ironic thing is, David Hundeyin is from Badagry, Lagos (actually, more of a Lagosian than Tinubu) and he's Yoruba.

So, you're going to "teach an Igbo man a lesson" Igbo man because an independent Yoruba journalist exposed two Yoruba men? Make it make sense!

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By the way, Osinbajo's campaign DG, Richard Akinnola, isn't supporting Tinubu and has kicked against aligning with Tinubu along with members of the Osinbajo campaign team like Lara Wise and the likes.

homesteady:
I don’t believe this. The South is not divided to the extent that the SS and SE will vote for another 8 years of Northern rule. Not just another Northerner, but another Fulani man.

Even if Tinubu will be a hard sell, I don’t see this happening.

There might be an element if truth in what he posited. The South East and the South South have always voted the same pattern and championed similar causes (and even the federal legislative members back similar causes in the National Assembly).

If you get the people of the SS to love you, the SE would follow suit; and vice versa.

But if the APC had chosen Osinbajo vying against Atiku, the SS and SE votes would be split in 40:60 or 35: 65, even with a SS or SE vice for Atiku.

The hatréd for Tinubu isn't necessarily about his party affiliation - certainly not his tribe since Obasanjo and Osinbajo are accepted - but his person.

Osinbajo was always the first on my list before Obi (my comments on Nairaland as far back as March on the Chelsea thread would confirm this), and for many APC and PDP faithfuls in the SE and SS too. Nobody would have unified Nigeria better than Osinbajo.

Only Tinubu's dubious supporters have made it about his tribe yet keep mum when we raise the Obasanjo and Osinbajo question.

ShaqFu:
Hmmm. Whatever that document say. I still want to know if he (Tinubu) was ever arrested, prosecuted and jailed for the so called offence those document say he committed.

Or isn't it innocent until proven guilty by a competent court of law? I still wonder...

This is not a case of innocent until proven guilty. He was proven guilty that's why he agreed to forfeit the money in his account and testimony in exchange for a suspend jailtime. It's there in thw very records uploaded. It's stated that he was culpable in managing drug money.

A "picker" is just as guilty as the Yahoo boy in the eyes of the law. He's an accomplice.

[quote author=seankafor post=114864028]I don't get, can something someone said on the internet be used against him even when there is no evidence?

Cultism: Police to Investigate Portable over formation of One Million Boys
Sequel to the trending video of one Habeeb Okikiola aka Portable where he claimed to have formed the One-Million Boys cult group terrorising some parts of Lagos State, the IGP has ordered pic.twitter.com/9t4Ry0fOFr

— Prince Olumuyiwa Adejobi (@Princemoye1) July 18, 2022

are probable causes to try and even jail portable based on his own WILLFUL admissions.

1. Read the Cybercrime Prohibition Act 2015, Section 24. It's about using the internet to transmit messages leading to unrest or admitting causing it.

Punishment: Fine of #7 million and/or 3 years imprisonment.


2. Read Section 516 of the Nigerian Criminal Code Act (Conspiracy to commit felony).

Punishment: 7 years imprisonment.


3. Read Section 518 of the Nigerian Criminal Code Act (Other conspiracies), specifically:
Conspiracy to cause injuries to persons.

Punishment: 2 years imprisonment.

The only defense to that would be plead insanity and that'd mean Portable being committed to a mental home.

User09:
That character isnt Ghanian.

I was being sarcastic with my post

Apologies for misjudging your intent then.
Maybe it's because I've seen too many Nigerians do that on Twitter to opinionated foreigners on Nigerian issues.

User09:
Kofimoses....lol

What do you have to say about Ghana's imminent debt default. I was looking at some data yesterday and you guys Debt to GDP is one of the highest in the world at 85%.

Infact your 5 year CDS spread is around 21%. The future economic outlook of your country is really bleak and this is putting it mildly.

Interesting how you are most worried about our political dynamics

As long as he's being logical and factual, there's no qualms.

It's interesting how you guys have an opinion of world sociopolitics; of Israel, the Middle East, the U.K., the U.S. and beyond. It's interesting that the dynamics of the political dynamics in those climes are discussed by us but you are projecting a veiled xenophobia on him for having opinions about Nigerian politics which are in the public domain.

And even more so, what affects Nigeria would shake the West African subregion. He's right to be very concerned about what happens in Nigeria.

The world is a global village - it's not your place to tell people what sociopolitical issues to comment on.

Commentor:
Wasn't his property to start with.

Just like a bank holding Hushpuppi's money.

The bank isn't complicit, it simply needs a court judgement before a forfeiture can be carried out.

Case itself was a CIVIL and NOT a CRIMINAL case.

Dimwitted newt!

Money laundering in itself is a crime in the U.S. and in Nigeria. Check the Criminal Code.

Being an accomplice to drug dealing is a crime in the U.S. and Nigeria too.

Yet you have the audacity to call criminal cases civil case?
You think this is a dispute between husband and wife?

Harebrain!

sageb:
OBA have left PDP for YPP.
Do you believe he can cause a surprise in the governorship polls?

OBA is a thug or comes across as one. Too unruly. A populist but he'd be worse than Gov. Udom. And given the humongous monies available to Akwa Ibom State Udom has underperformed.

I hold TWO definite grudges against Obong Bassey Albert (OBA) which many Akwaibomites and Niger-Deltans don't know about.

OBA is the Chairman of the Senate Oil and Gas Committee. The Petroleum Information Bill (PIB) which shortchanged oil-producing communities of the Niger-Delta (which includes our state) passed through his hands and he didn't kick against it.

Secondly, OBA is a magnet for hoodlums. His assent to being governor would mean chaos and the state becoming a haven of violence caused by gangs. This is the main reason we didn't support the former deputy governor in his bid to be governor in 2019 - he's sort of cut from the same cloth as OBA.
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On the side, even though he isn't on any ballot, I hold a grudge against Godswill Akpabio too and which is genuine regardless of achievements as a governor. In July, 2021, Godswill Akpabio said it doesn't matter what the content of the PIB is, it should be passed hastily.
Weighty statement since he:s the Minister of Niger-Delta Affairs.
That's one of the reasons oil-producing communities

Godswill is from Ikot Ekpene which doesn't have oil but many of us are from oil-producing communities/LGAs and we know what that means. He's very populist but he'd have to answer that question someday about him supporting that injustice.

Raph82:
If there's any good legacy I'm be leaving behind after ur tenure as president, it's going to be this electoral law which u have signed. I congratulate u on this Mr president.

The law is not very strict on vote-buying and there's a level of unwillingness to prosecute culprits. APC and PDP both votes in this election, each not wanting to be outdone by the others.

Vote-buying was how Tinubu emerged instead of a credible, younger and more sound Osinbajo. The Electoral Act didn't address that.

afrodoc2:
No be the guy move be that?

He will first tell us how he has never lost a debate in the history of NL (like there is a championship belt for that). Then he will give us the low down of all the award winning debates he has organized for men of timber and calibre. Then he will end it by daring people to post their names, CV, bank account details e.t.c for people to choose the winner.

Na that last one i wan avoid so i don give am champion.

Tell your guy to do so. I was off here for almost a week. Imagine if I made some bet, all I had to was deactivate and that's it - all gone.

Drop the anonymity. All that nonsense of you lots project yourselves to be everything and more ended with the exposed fantasies of Coogar and Siena years ago on this forum.

If you claim you are something and it's legitimate and above-board, why hide behind the mask of anonymity? It didn't start with you - I do in all debates which require authenticity. I have no problem with removing the masks.

We've all made claims. It's time to remove the masks and stand in the light.

afrodoc2:
Very true. Because Tinubu is running for VP.

I know you are undefeated in debate in the history of NL. And you organized 2,3567.4 debates in Ikot-Ekpene and Calabar for numerous candidates including Atiku and others. So i can't try to step to you in terms of debating.

Of course, you can't. No, I organised governorship debate and I ran a governorship campaign to top 4 of 45 candidates, all in Akwa Ibom. And I'm sure you've seen me post receipts in March this year.

I also tell you in all confidence that APC candidates in the South South and South East are not campaigning for Tinubu, at least not openly. The senatorial district and federal house of representatives candidates were all rooting for Osinbajo. He was very sellable in the south. I have openly challenged that anyone in these areas should point out just one APC candidate who is campaigning for Tinubu openly. Just one.

I should know since I've been contracted to develop digital media files by one or two, and I relate directly with a couple of them.

But stick to your emojis.

Roland17:
Tinubu and SW APC can not afford to lose any state in the SW during the presidential elections, it will be very dangerous. It’s less than one year to the presidential elections, this result has serious implications and has to worry APC.

Tinubu's candidates in presidential have never ever won all South West states since the return to democracy. And the places where they win have never been completely sweeping.

He didn't win with Ribadu in 2011.

He didn't win all South West states with Buhari in 2015 ( the Buhari fever regardless).

He didn't win all South West states with Buhari in 2019. Federal might regardless. In fact, he lost two states - Ondo and Oyo, and the victories in other states weren't sweeping.

afrodoc2:
Because Adeleke is not their son too. Or because Atiku and Obi are also their sons.

Yet in 2019, when their son contested as VP and backed by Tinubu, another son of theirs, he lost Oyo and Ondo States to Atiku and Obi. And could only muster 310,000 vote margin which is less than the votes casted in Bayelsa, the state with the smallest population in Nigeria.

Facts trump emotions, trolling and emojis.

https://www.nairaland.com/7186774/epl-chatroom-all-discussions/77#114518307

DissTroy:
Bode George, Seyi Makinde, Adeleke... I'm just mentioning a few anti-Tinubu power houses (I expect a whataboutism comment about who is who instead facing the presented facts) who were initially tilting for Osinbajo but are now put off by Tinubu's greed.
The high population of bonus pith westerners swing votes too.

Even in 2011 when Tinubu fielded Ribadu on his ACN platform, he LOST woefully all but Osun State; and the losing margin was very wide https://www.electoralgeography.com/new/en/countries/n/nigeria/nigeria-presidential-election-2011.html

Tinubu has never controlled the presidential election outcomes of the South West, unlike Buhari who has his territory on lock even during the Obasanjo era.

But political neophytes who can beat their chest to state specifically what roles they played in any such elections are on Nairaland masturbating about how Tinubu would win when he can't outrightly win the South West which is the only place he has any influence to begin with.

Facts and evidence prove Ondo, Lagos and Ekiti are swing states that could go anyway. And now Osun under the Adeleke influence.

Facts don't lie. Facts don't respect emotions. Statistics trump sentiments always.

DissTroy:
With Peter Obi on the ballot in 2019, PDP won Oyo and Ondo States, and lost:

Osun: only 17,000 votes;
Ekiti: 75,000 votes;
Ogun: 87,000 votes;
Lagos: 131,000 votes.
https://www.vanguardngr.com/2019/02/presidential-poll-state-by-state/

APC won South-West with only 310,000 votes at the height even with the power of incumbency. The 2015 election was simlar. Less than the total votes cast in Bayelsa, the least populated state in Nigeria.

But go ahead - keep projecting and speculating based on your illusions while facts like the ones I present hit you in the face.

Like I stated less than 2 weeks ago, facts don't lie. There are always voting patterns, and Tinubu has never ever successfully won the Southwest directly or through his cronies.

You argue emotions, I base mine on antecedence. I also did tell you we'd see the results. And that APC candidates are sacred of promoting Tinubu in the South East and South South because they know they'd stoke the ire of the electorates. I've been with these people. I've seen them up close. I know many who are quietly pushing for Obi and why you can't find a Tinubu billiboard in these areas. But you want arguments based on emotions.

2023 beckons.

FirstbornWds:
How the hell the guy is still walking freely is a mystery. That guy should be in an isolated prison in the middle of nowhere.

Kilishihunter:
In South America his life will be in grave danger day by day, Made a whole FC Barcelona to be the laughing stock of the world financially especially in England for years

Even in some parts of Europe, in Italy. The Ultras have done bodily hárm to even low-level players for losing crucial penalties. But Spain seems more moderate.

BlueMann:

I love this!

www.nairaland.com/attachments/15763632_fxzcfclaaaakuw_jpeg_jpeg58ab032d2badc6ac3ba83f6d6a055f5e

It's like a love interest you were crushing all over getting married then your ex who's married teaming up with another of your married love interest to the newlywed for choosing right by not falling for "yeye time-waster".

Jokerman:
Cheatlona.... how una take dey sign these players??

Football World needs Ronaldo to Bayern for statpadding reasons...

Barça is the 4th most valuable sports team (not just football) in the world, with a valuation of ~$5 billion. Plus it's owned by its supporters. There'd always be many income streams. Managing it is the problem.

Again, there'd be a special place in Hades for Bartomeu. Even Hell doesn't exist, it has to be created.

jpmoriarti:
It is for the US audience. It will air 5am CET. I guess also 4am WAT.

Who can watch it at that time?

It's a Classico - the greatest rivalry in club football, the most popular sport in the world. Sure, people would watch in all timezones. And it's on a Sunday too.

larride:
Lmao. Omolara ko, omodehinde ni. Deluded clown.

Dont worry, keep running around when nobody is chasing you, that thing you are looking for, you will find it.

Omolara, good. Hubris is something to count on to bait a fool to his own demise, virtual or physical.

It's a Saturday morning. The #500k bet is still on, right? I'm good. #500k or #500k equivalent. This is where unbridled bragging gets you - into a corner.

First, you have to upload your details:

Full names;

Social media names and handles;

Sociopolitical influence or engagements (with proof, hard evidence).

Of course, that goes for me too.

You do this, then the bet is on. I gave you 24 hours to decide. See, I can be nice.

There's no roping yourself out. The illusionary maturity card won't count here. Let's do this and give these guys an epic show. Let those you've insulted over the years see us for who we really are off Nairaland.

I'm deliberately not going ballistic on you so you don't make this about insults. Don't run.

Omolara A.K.A. Mr. 500K illusionary bet on Tinubu winning the election, it's 24 hours and you still haven't responded.

Of course, you knew I was baiting you to disgrace yourself. I already have all the details about you I need to ruin you. I just want you to set yourself up.

24 hours and you've ran away from a deal to upload all your details as well as me doing same.

That's how you know those who live fantasies on Nairaland. #500K bet when you have no dignified source of income.

It's no surprise you root for Tinubu since you both have dodgy histories.

You signed up for hounding. You brought tbis on yourself. When you get off this, you'd learn to pick your battles next time.

Omolara? Fitting that you have a feminine name. Stûpid cûnt!

larride:
Lmao. Just say you dont have money to back up your useless analysis and rest, nobody will beat you.

Now run along.

I'm the onwho's willing to put everything one the line.

One web app that I build (which anyone can find on my portfolio online can take care of that money).

This same Nairaland where someone claimed for years he was a multimillionaire but he was exposed as nobody?

This same Nairaland where a person claimed he was in Chicago and was exposed?

Let's post our details then bet the money.

You can't just bet then deactivate with no money or assurance.

Let's post our details then the next can take place.
Are you scared of your own shadow?

If you are a Tinubu guy who has connections to him why hide?

I want assurances so the people here can haunt either of us if we default.

Until details are revealed, no bets.

We only do this my way.

Maybe part of the reason I have a soft spot for Peter Obi is because he's first a businessman and an employer of labour. I have a disdain for political jobbers and sit-tights.

If you know where I am from and the LGA particularly, you'd know better. I have turned down offers from those in the corridors of power consistently as a matter of principle.

If you search "DissTroy Allocation Akwa Ibom 2019", you'd find me exposing my state governor and revealing little known details of corruption on this platform and even attacking government aides misrepresenting facts.

I'm no PDP man. I'm a individual-capacity person.

Obi's popularity wouldn't have been widespread if Osinbajo had been fielded.

I got contacted by a SW governor's SSA early enough in December to push the governor for the presidency, I got linked with the governor. I did background check he was good with achievements in human rights but when I discovered he was in collusion with Tinubu secretly, I left the discussion table.

I am not worried about where my next meal would come from so I can be blunt, even in the face of potential personal gain.

Let's both post our details as I stated so we can confirm our claims. Let's drop the Larride and DissTróy cloaks so see who we both are.

larride:
And oh, if you want to know who I am, I stay in Lagos, if you are not in Lagos, you can come down to Lagos, we set location and time so that the thing you are looking for, you will find it.

Nonsense. Is this conversation holding in Lagos? I'd go visit an anonymous street urchin?

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Added to all I stated, let's do a video call on Telegram. Group. Others can hide their faces but we both display our faces.

Drop the anonymity and come at me.

Deranged hermit!

larride:
You are trying to run away as usual.

There are alot of respectable people here that can serve as boardmen. You can easily send the money to them using them as escrow. That way nobody runs away when the time to fulfill the bet comes.

Put your 500k where your mouth is Dissclown.

You are no more unintelligible than a doorknob. Anybody can deactivate. I've seem it happen a billion times.

There are no guarantees when you hide under anonymity.

Let's both:

Upload our pictures;

Upload our full names;

Our social media names;

Our sociopolitical engagements.


Right here, right now.

No anonymity so anybody who defaults can't run away.

I'm not here to brag about money but I'm a comfortable tech guy and there are so many PPP website projects to my name and on my portfolio.

But first things, first - no anonymity.

That or no deal. You brought this on yourself.

larride:
Bla bla bla

Dissclown, put your money where your fingers/mouth/analysis is.

Let's stake 500k.

Tinubu will WIN all the SW state comfortably. Any state that he fails to win by less than 100k votes, you win.

Jodera ibime nihilstjnr raumdueter blueraydick oasis007 afrodoc afrodoc2

We need witnesses.

Bet with who? You? Same Nairaland where people bet and ran away?

Ever seen me involved in betting?

Let's take it a notch further:

We'd do the following:

Post our pictures, post our names, post our verifiable political engagements here on this page. Then when our everyone has successfully linked our offline information with our Nairaland personas, then you go ahead with what you want to do.

That's the deal.

Our pictures.
Our full names.
Our political engagements.

Deal?

Let's all let loose the supposed anonymity cloak.