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raumdeuter:Indians would typically mob a Muslim for breathing wrongly. Historically, Indians have been having countless clashes with Muslims. Do confirm this. It's not unconnected to the Indian-Pakistani hate. Any excuse would do. Interestingly, from me holding fort for Christianity and juxtaposing its ideals against the irrational fanaticism of Moslems, you want me to hold forte for other religions too. You do not realise it but, somehow, in your ensuing arguments, you have inadvertently justified or rationalised Deborah's gruesome murder by the bloodcraving fanatics driven by Islamic ideals which have no place amongst civil. Somehow, you've justified any perceived disrespect to one's religious sect and the accompanied violence can be explained away as all you have to do is find precedence. ![]() |
Capaldi:To begin with, you and anyone (who isn't a muslim) here antagonising the Christians have probably attended more church or religious programmes in the last 12 months than I have in the last 12 years. I'd quote at least 10 posts of mine over the years reiterating this (that I'm barely religious) and troling those who reiterate what their pastors say. I'm barely religious but I am of the Christian faith. Religion and spirituality are different not the same. Not mutually exclusive but not the same. Religion is nothing more than a set of doctrines influenced by its custodians. That's why I don't reference and would never reference any pastor, priest or clergyman as an authority on biblical history or doctrines. All my arguments so far have been based on this. Funny though that Jesus the Christ whom Christians reference stopped a woman from being stoned according to Jewish laws. That marked the beginning of Christianity and a deviation from such doctrines. The same Bible which said for the children of Israel not to associate with unbelievers in older texts also tweaked its stance for everyone of all races and religions being loved by God and God showing them. Remember my earlier comment about Christianity reinventing itself? Now this what makes it a humane religion or, if you like, a humane faith. Over time, Christians have adopted such stances. |
raumdeuter:Whataboutism. I was very specific : "Hindus won't behead [or lynch you] for eating beef ". I was specific. Check the comment you quoted. Even in the west, cruelty against animals have consequences. You are supposed to put it to sleep before skinning it or anything. |
Capaldi:I'm guessing you are either a Muslim or an agnostic (not an atheist because there are really no atheists on Nairaland, just antagonising trolls). The good thing with Christianity and Judaism is, constantly they reinvent and tweak their doctrines and rules without deviating from what their faiths are based on. Judaism constantly changed its rules about women in religious places from the days of old to Deborah to the bible constantly mentioning women actively participating in religious activities around the time of Jesus. From being misogynistic to allowing certain rights to females. Christianity moved from whatever it was around the time of Jesus to having nun who could perform activities in Churches to women being allowed to hold certain activities in Churches. From crushing enemies to showing them love as even at the time of Jesus, Jews engaged in little wars and being more tolerant of others. That's why Romans and others could easily adopt the religion. Christianity and Judaism tweak their doctrines to fit with changing times but Islam has continued to be as murderous and insanely fanatical as it was 1000 years ago. Don't equate Islam with any other religion. Even Sango and Osun worshippers are more tolerant than Moslems. |
Capaldi:Maybe. To make it easier for everyone, don't fight for your God or gods and/or holy religious text figures. Judaism is sticking to this. Christians are sticking to this. Hindus are not beheading people for eating beef gotten from their revered cows. So, why isn't the most "peaceful religion on Earth" adapting this and just be civil? Yeah, your guess is as good as mine. |
larride:If this is so, do you realise Muslims always equating Prophet Isa with Jesus and referring to Jesus as just another prophet but not the son of God or divine is blasphemy to Christians? Do you realise the Christian faith is templated on Jesus being the Christ and constantly calling him a prophet is a complete affront on everything Christianity is based on? All Muslims should be arrested for blasphemy then, or if Christians were murderous, lynch all Moslems. That society has evolved now doesn’t give you or anyone else the right to start using today standard to judge those of medieval times.Really? Yet every time you lot refer to slavery, and the plundering of Africa and North America by Europeans even though it happened centuries ago, and still blame an entire race (Caucasians) for slavery? Yet reparations are still being paid to blacks or being discussed for something which was legal centuries ago? See how flawed your premise is? |
Kimbeast:Really? For all of your trolling you present one CJNews which is some trashy website or a clone at best and you couldn't do well to post links because you don't want to show the whole context. This is the only CJNews online and it's the same screenshot you posted. Local-searching on it doesn't bring up any article like the one you posted: https://thecjn.ca/?s=jewish+marriage. --- 1. Typically, children could be betrothed at a young age, and sometimes, even at birth, even though it is not consummated until the marriage rights are completed. It was forbidden for parents to actually give out their children in marriage until they reach the age of full maturity which is at least 16 to 17: https://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/10435-marriage-laws . They were considered women then, and even the United States makes exceptions for this even today. 2. The University of Dayton made an attempt to answer this and here is what it says: " At one time, Joseph was assumed to be elderly when he married Mary. However, now we believe that Mary and Joseph were both in their teens when Jesus was born, around sixteen and eighteen respectively. " This cancels the nonsense by one of your comrades that Mary was a child bride married off to an old man. https://udayton.edu/imri/mary/a/age-of-mary-and-joseph-at-jesus-birth.php Also, the marriage was not consummated until 12 months later, that's why Joseph was 'surprised' Mary was going to be pregnant because they had not consummated it yet even though she spent time in his place. You know, like a fiancee visting her fiance. Still thinking child marriage? Let's go on. 3. The Jewish Virtual Library posits that no talk of marriage must happen unless the boy or girl was about 13 years old. That's when betrothal can happen which is essentially an expression of interest in the girl or boy by either family. Engagement happens many years later. And the engagement must last for 12 months before actual marriage when it can be consummated by sex: https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/marriage-in-judaism. https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/marriage-in-judaism Typically because they were considered minors until they were around 17 to 20 which is when the consummation of the marriage happens. 4. Also, they were many Judaism sects even when Jesus was born. Jesus was born of the Rabbinic Jewish sect. Here's what history has to say about that: " In Rabbinic Judaism, males cannot consent to marriage until they reach the age of 13 years and a day and have undergone puberty [when they can be betrothed]. They are considered minors until the age of twenty. The same rules apply to females, except their age is 12 years and a day [when they can be betrothed]. It's the first thing you'd find when you google "Child marriage in Jewish culture". Credible sources only. |
Kimbeast:Oh, I am "boss" all of a sudden? No more insults? Drop the niceties. Take up the dare. Imagine what it would do for you to be the one to make me eat my words and the humble pie? Are you going to pass up on this golden opportunity? Nairaland is the second highest ranking website in Nigeria on the internet. People see what we post in search results and it would be an injustice to those naive people if I let you get away with lies and false revisionism. Take up the dare or forever hold your peace. |
Kimbeast:Good. I have you exactly where I want you - against the wall and the spotlight on you. If you can bring irrefutable proof (from reputable sources) that marrying girls off at 12 years old was a custom and rampant, I would tender an apology to you before deactivating this account. If you can't, you would deactivate your account and all your known alternates and never comment on this thread again forever. If I go one step further to provide proof that child marriage wasn't Jewish custom, you'd add a 1000-word apology letter to the Christians on this thread before deactivating all your accounts. I never debate what I don't have evidence for. But might withhold to draw you out. Are you game, Kimbeast? ![]() |
Kimbeast:Mary wasn't a minor. She was betrothed to Joseph. It was even mentioned that older cousin, Elizabeth, was childless which would make Elizabeth in her 40's and Mary not older than 23 or 24, but not a minor. In fact, in Jewish culture, marriage under the age of 17 was considered illegal, and people are considered minors until they reached the age of 20. Do your research and stop being ignorant. Also, in Jewish culture, engagement was as good as marriage. I double-dare you bring proof that child marriage was rampant or condoned in Jewish culture. You should at least study biblical and Jewish history (which much of the Bible is based on) before you criticize it. |
Kholiwe:Maybe. But when the fanaticism becomes the hallmark of a particular religion then it's become a peculiarity. Hindus are battling Muslims have little tolerance for them. China is even less subtle and wants to wipe out its Muslim population (extreme and I don't support it), but it is what it is. Russia has zero tolerance. Here's the Global Terrorism Index which I was going through over the weekend. Download it - it's 10MB and 90 pages, but it's a good read: https://reliefweb.int/attachments/b3784db8-b480-31ae-acee-f4be06255a16/GTI-2022-web.pdf . Interestingly, India, China and Russia are not amongst the top 30 for high impact terrorism. But the U.S., the U.K. and, of course, Nigeria are top 30. You know what's the common denominator amongst all the top 30 countries on the GTI (Nigeria included)? They all make exceptions for Islamic fanaticism or condone them - Sharia law and allowing such exclusive fanatiical communities. I'm presenting facts you can confirm. |
Kimbeast:Maybe; But then again, maybe not. But you can be sure no Christian or Yahweh apologist is going to behead you for this question or lynch you for daring to ask IN THIS AGE AND TIME. The worst you'd get would be insults or ostracism - being shunned or ignored by Christian, because, for what it's worth, is just what it is - a question, a statement of your opinion which harms nobody. And that is exactly what every rational person is saying - why did Deborah have to be killed for making a statement which harms nobody physically or psychologically? That is the bone of contention. That's what separates religionists from murderous fanatical extremists. |
A001:Like I stated, I created it. "Gyno" : female; "Minor": not adult or mature, and; "Phile": loving or keen attraction for. So, Gynominorphile - sexual attraction for female minors or underaged females. You can do anything with the English language if you understand and follow the rules. |
donjazet1:Let me create a word they might be comfortable with : "Gynominorphile" - One who is sexually attracted to female minors. At least the word is not stipulated as a crime legally. Call him a gynominorphile. That might be an easier pill to swallow. |
Empiree: Empiree:You degenerate offspring of a raccoon! Punch earlier posted its investigation revealing the tribe of the okada riders who burnt David Umoh, the sound engineer, but deleted it. Vanguard is sticking to the story. They are northerners. Hausa-Fulani-Kanuri precisely, and Vanguard is putting it mildly but sticking to them being Northerners even hours ago. https://www.vanguardngr.com/2022/05/how-okada-riders-killed-burnt-sound-engineer-david-imoh-beat-2-others-over-n100-band Eye witness accounts and confirmations of the ethnicity of the riders who operate on that spot confirm their tribe. Even the NURTW workers there confirmed it anonymously, of course. Your Taqiyya doesn't work here. |
Empiree:Yesterday evening I posted the quoted comment below. "She (Empiree] has weaponised victimisation, barefaced denial and her gender while spewing the most extremist comments." DissTroy:https://www.nairaland.com/920248/official-chelsea-fan-thread-champions/14110#112893724 My comments are never random but to keep proving earlier stances. Now comes the victimisation game then denial. What's it called again in Islam? "Taqiyya". And it's on full display now. You've been the lab rat in this virtual experiment. ![]() |
Empiree:Maybe. But now is more fitting to stoke your pain. This morning in the Hausa-Fulani Emirate you bragged about, a suicide bomber blew up tens and more of your children to smithereens. https://www.facebook.com/422973705297097/posts/895738001353996 Whatever high you had from lynching Deborah has quickly been replaced with the arduous search of the body parts of your children in the school rubbles. I bet one or two of them would have rejoiced in Deborah's murder. And more importantly, the rational South have largely ignored the news. Suffer your pain alone. Life comes at you fast, doesn't it? ![]() |
ShaqFu:You shouldn't even bother trying to prove anything to these extremists like that thing you quoted. Just shame them for the murderous religious fanatics that they are and leave them to wallow in the filth of their subhuman bloodcravings. Any other quote should be shaming them for what they are, and drawing them out of the shadows of that Islam For Islam section or threads on the fringes of the Religion Section. And wherever you can, expose their identities so everyone takes note. Dangote's son-in-law openly supported Deborah's killing on Twitter, and has been rightly shamed and disgraced with more consequences. He'd have gotten away with it on Nairaland. These people can and would successfully plan Jihads on Nairaland or declare Fatwas, and all because Seun created a digital sleeper cell for them on Nairaland. |
ShaqFu:Arguably the top 5 Muslim advocate on Nairaland. Here's Empiree referring to Christians as "infidels". https://www.nairaland.com/5723066/man-trying-tell-us-something/1#87319262 Where else do we see such references? Yes, broadcast videos of Al-Qaeda and Boko Haram. |
Here's a particular moniker that spews hatred for Christians and Christianity unprovoked unchecked for years on Nairaland. She's a female and seething hatred for Christians is her stock-in-hatred, and she reigns supreme in that section. She has weaponised victimisation, barefaced denial and hef gender while spewing the most extremist comments. You want to see extreme religious hatred in text without having to leave this forum? Let me introduce you all to Empress of Extremistan herself - Empiree https://www.nairaland.com/empiree . |
Lukgaf:Gentlemen, please welcome our Nairaland resident Extremist-In-Chief, Lukgaf. |
donstan18:Goalpost shifting? I'm still game. But you'd have to give something in return. Here's the deal: Would you post a 1000-word apology letter here to everyone of the Christian faith on this thread whose sensitivity you have offended if I post 5 comments or posts of Muslim attacking Christians and Christianity unprovoked on Nairaland? I'd throw in an extra 3 of such posts/comments to represent the shirt on the Chelsea FC shirt as a sign of goodwill. Are you game, Donstan? |
donstan18:He doesn't need to answer- I'd do so. I'd do you 2 better and name 4 Muslims [verified Muslims] who continually slander Christians and Christianity on Nairaland. Ready? I am too. 1. 'Apostle Suleiman represents pastors and all are 't0t0 sniffer". Jesus couldn't perform any miracle, and he couldn't save himself from being crucified.' https://www.nairaland.com/7057652/muslim-skip-fasting-he-nothing/2#111564894 . Nairaland moniker: Gawu1. 2. '[Jesus] is neither God nor son of God as claimed by some.' https://www.nairaland.com/6908707/return-prophet-isa-jesus-peace#108771319 Nairaland moniker: Lukgaf . 3. 'Why can't you call Jesus the son of Angel Gabriel since his the one that they blew air into the Virginia of marry.' 'But to achieve you lies... You associate Jesus with God, you over hype him.' https://www.nairaland.com/6908707/return-prophet-isa-jesus-peace/3#109161810 Nairaland moniker: HeeBraHim2 4. Local-search "pastor tithe" and you'd see Muslims having a swell time insulting Christianity and Christians. https://www.nairaland.com/search?q=tithe+pastor&board=44 I could go on and on. Muslims slander Christianity daily and they are protected with a separate section for them. They mostly go unchallenged because not everyone wants to swear that oath of allegiance to Allah before commenting in the Islam for Muslims section. |
A quick local-search of " Amoto94 kill" here on Nairaland reveals he's always been an Islamic extremist and a terrorism apologist. Many of you have called him out for his pro-Islamic-extremism views over the years, but the problem is you all seem to forget after he posts a few Tweet quotes of Chelsea FC activities. Like here where he was implicitly defending Boko Haram last year: https://www.nairaland.com/920248/official-chelsea-fan-thread-champions/12214#104665240 . Just because he's literate doesn't mean he's educated. Literacy is knowing how to read and write, and translate to actions. Education is being refined in thoughts and completely pragmatic, and literacy is just a subset of it. |
andrewbaba44:. Responded like a proper Cule. Not forgetting Pep Guardiola is the youngest of the 6 coaches to have won a treble, and he did it in his first season as a rookie coaching a senior team. |
BlueRayDick:Wike doesn't want to be president. Udom doesn't want to be president. Both are PDP governors who have been bankrolling the party since 2015 so feel they should decide who flies the party flag in 2023. They want the kingmaker positions, and want it zoned South. Wike has publicly stated his grouse with Atiku and Saraki which is, both (the later especially) turned against his boss (GEJ) and orchestrated GEJ's defeat in 2015. That's his grouse. According to him, those who left the party to die while he was building it have no right to come seek the throne. There are new kings now. Wike didn't put his might into campaigning for Atiku in 2019. He and Udom didn't fund any of the different state Atiku Campaign Organisations. And Wike has no real grouse against Peter Obi. The only thing he's said is, Obi likes "speaking grammar and cramming statistics" which is a compliment in a weird Wike-esque way, if you examine it. Nothing close to the Tinubu and his protégés and their supporters battles. The only person Wike outrightly detests is Atiku, and I can understand why. Everyone can. In fact, Atiku wanted Wike as his running mate but Wike turned him down. https://businessday.ng/politics/article/2023-atiku-dumps-obi-picks-wike-as-running-mate/?_e_pi_=7%2CPAGE_ID10%2C2940458947 It was a sly attempt to make Wike his sidekick instead the kingmaker that he currently is. Wike didn't get involved in the Ondo State election in 2020 because he didn't want to to share the glory with Atiku and Saraki who had picked the candidate. Peter Obi's billboards are untouched in Rivers State. Given who Wike is, if he disliked Peter Obi, all those billboards would be down or damaged. |
izzou:There is a Third Force but it is funded by relatively quiet moneybags from the old stock. Prof. Utomi, Falana,and the likes are the faces and the structure, but moneybags until recently was partly Kwankwaso who stopped the funding because he wanted to be a consensus candidate. There is but it doesn't have the financial warchest.[/quote] People like Obi should have started his movements right from 2019. He could have started building up structures back then. He could have been selling his values to regions other than the East.Obi did but the Tinubu media hirelings exaggerated that Pandora nonsense to draw him back. He took close to two years fighting to wash off the corruption dirt to regain his relatively saintly image. And he did so with no help from the PDP like Wike who was still nursing a sore of being schemed out in 2019. Peter Obi should be a Southern project to force down the throat of the North, but Wike is a dickhead who has the finesse of an Oshodi underbridge thug. I know Obi has the South South by default outside Igboland. And he'd beat Amaechi even in Rivers State. |
donstan18:I guess Reno is banking on Jonathan not contesting under the APC so he won't eat his words. Also, Reno is rooting for Atiku and Peter Obi (the later being my own preferred), so he has an option to fall back on. Added to that, Jonathan's media aide has debunked the rumour this morning. I don't think he'd stoop that low. |
donstan18:Reno Omokri answered the question straight on when asked.. He tweeted that Jonathan won't decamp to the APC, but in the event that GEJ does, he (Reno) won't decamp with him. https://www.vanguardngr.com/2021/09/jonathan-wont-join-apc-if-he-does-i-wont-go-with-him-reno-omokri/ Reno waited till he confirmed from Jonathan that he won't run before declaring his support for Atiku (who happens to be his first boss during the OBJ administration) before Jonathan picked him. |
Elon Musk is reconfirming what we have always known of the social media giants - Facebook, Twitter and Instagram. Twitter favours the Left, and inside information has revealed it prinarily employs those who knowtow to Left-wing ideas. Any independent or Right-leaner who's opinioned get banned or shadowbanned. https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1523653429410770945?s=20&t=ZYzfueDaSOgxw7O9uHpUbg
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Best test of the hypocrisy of blacks. You emigrate to other climes and seek elective political offices but you do no want others born here despite their skin colour to do same. Blacks have always been the hypocritical race. |
PDPGuy:That's the thing - the South would always hinge such self-induced shortcomings on excuses which are immaterial on election days. We'd always play the victim game instead of being proactive. Last month, INEC made two weighty proclamations: 1. There are about 1.8 million new PVCs to be collected. https://businessday.ng/politics/article/inec-unveils-1-854m-new-pvcs-voters-begin-collection-tuesday/ 2. Over 45 ℅ of PVC registrations are invalid. 3. Hundreds of thousands of uncollected PVCs from previous registrations waiting to be picked. https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2022/03/24/651551-uncollected-pvcs-still-with-inec-says-rec/ The North is collecting and registering en masse, the South are on Twitter trending hashtags. The South East doesn't care about such issues. 9 months to the Presidential Elections. |
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