₦airaland Forum

Emmynator:
Who is this one? Wetin concern US with another country politics? Abi sovereignty no matter again? Giving moral grounds as excuse for US to destroy a country is stupid.
Saudi that is still under Monarchy are in bed with US, so your point is moot.
Better wake up, it's about interests, Nigeria is still serving their interests, so no need to sabotage Nigeria. The difference between the first set and second set of countries you mentioned is their willingness to serve a stronger nation's interest.

And Obama sugested building a military base in Nigeria in 2014 during the height of the Chibok girls issue in exchange for arms or military support. We told him to bug off so he didn't sell us arms citing "human rights concerns" all of a sodden.

https://foreignpolicy.com/2014/12/02/nigeria-to-washington-take-your-military-aid-and-shove-it/

That was obviously a backdoor attempt at getting close to our oil because the war was in the North East.

budaatum:
Shoot buda, diss. And don't worship Gods!

budaatum:
So says the god diss.troy.

Now jail me, why don't you?

Alright, this is getting worse. You've been quoting every one comment I make with two or three replies 30 minutes apart even before I even reply.

Something is going on, Budaatum, and you need to tell us. Maybe you think this isn't a safe space.

We need to check you into a rehabilitation center. You are angry, depressed, paranoid and schizophrenic all at once. You need help, man! Forget partisan politics now.

Don't do it, man. Hold on. Don't let go. It's not over. There's light at the end of the tunnel.

[quote author=budaatum post=110917741][/quote]Exactly! A feminized man. I'm sure you don't even mind being a house husband.

Ironically, you are the religious one here while I am barely religious and haven't used any religious defense.

When a woman conceives, it's no longer her body alone but another human involved. A human with a compete genetic makeup and growing tissues forming into organs with a biological stopwatch running a countdown to when it leaves her body.

When you take that human's life for flimsy reasons, you are a murderer. A state-sanctioned mass murder doesn't make it less of a murder.
And you are an accomplices to murder too.

Got more memes? Submit your pysche evaluation by Monday evening.

budaatum:
Yawn.

And here he is ladies and gentlemen; give it up for the one and only Buda the Luna!

budaatum:
It must pain you that you lack the authority to impose your sentence on buda, you poor powerless sod.

There's no need to throw tantrums.

Abortion or not, it's on record that you stated a wombed child is nothing more than an extension of his mother, with no rights as it isn't human or living at all.

It's Wednesday. Make sure you submit copies of your mental evaluation reports by Monday evening. And we'd vet the reports so don't bother shelling money to quacks for a fake report.

Monday deadline.

No. She just clung to low-hanging fruits

I can see the child she's holding who is at least 3 years old. You impregnated her
, she bore you a child and you both have been cohabiting with everyone calling her your wife.

So when you suggested making it legal after her hinting it, she just went for the quickest option which legalises the role she's already settled into and allows her wear a ring without seeming too desperate.

Happy married life. When financial success comes your way, have a proper marriage anniversary even once with friends and family.

Women cherish these things. It's not the money- it's the feeling of being wedded.

budaatum:
Anyway. A foetus gets its life from the body it lives in and if that body stops giving it life the foetus stops living.

In other words, according to Budaatum, as long as a child is still in its mother's womb, it is nothing. It is nothing more than a fingernail which can be cut off during manicure, a eyebrow to be shaved off even if it has a developing brain, heart, mouth and limbs which makes it a distinct human.

The prosecution has noted your testimony now. And after all the back-and-forths, here's the judgement being passed:


Budaatum, your head is not correct! You are hereby sentenced to 20 years with 3,000 therapy sessions with 419 psychiatrists.

budaatum:
Spin this however straight you want to justify your supposed righteousness, diss, the facts remain that in the majority of countries on earth abortion is not murder.

Whatever.

Again, Budaatum, is a foetus a ldeath thing or a living miniature human with unique DNA?

Yes or no? Stop being your cunning self. Yes or no?

budaatum:
Who are you to try to impose this on those who don't agree with it?

And where did you learn that the foetus is not getting its human life from the human body it is in?

No. You are manufacturing arguments.

Let's get this straight:

According to Budaatum, a foetus - a living being- with its own tissue and forming organs is nothing more than an extension of his mother? It's nothing more than a vestigial organ that can be cut away or sliced according to the mood of his mother, yes?

By implication, a child is nothing more than a disposable property of its mother so she can kill or enslave him if she likes?

So, let's say a wombed child and his mother are Siamese twins; so Siamese twins are not individuals and one twin treated like an organ?

Where do you manufacture your facts from?

Budaatum, is a foetus a living or a dead thing with different DNA?

Yes or no? Just answer this before the elongated replies.

budaatum:
What "malicious intent is established", diss, when someone aborts, and in what country?

The foetus is a human life! Argue what you want. Malicious intent is taking that human life that has formed because you can or you find it irritating or an impedance when it isn't a threat to you.

If you shoot a person who simply stole a mango which fell from your car, you would be tried for murder. If you shoot an armed robber who invaded your house, it's manslaughter.

Unless that growing child pose a medical threat to you, aborting it is murder. You took a life for flimsy reasons without exploring other options.

Countries which ban abortion do so because it puts the mother at risk (multiple abortion does) and it's killing a life. Mostly templated on morality. Letting the mother die to save the child is considered less moral so that law is laxxed.

Many women having indiscriminate sex just wake up to abort. What's the justification for that? You are taking another life. Just because it formed in you doesn't make you own it. That's why mothers can lose custody of the children they birthed.

MNDY:
I am totally disappointed in Yoruba's. They look on as ritual killing take over their region.

I'm guessing you are Igbo? The Igbos are also guilty of ritual killings but to a lesser degree.

I stated that factually, not to start a tribal war.

The Yorubas are still the most detribalised and liberal of the ethnic groups in Nigeria by a long stretch.

If it's for ritual killings, it didn't start today.

I did mention the South West has a ritual killing problem in details last year at some point and many gave emotional responses. https://www.nairaland.com/4508641/american-politics-thread-joe-bidens/2936#107587091

The ritual killing problem in the South West is so bad that it has two popular TV programmes dedicated to ritual killings and others like witchcraft for over three decades.

Labe Orun and Nkan Nbe. These programmes aired on LTV (Lagos State Television), OGTV ( Ogun State Television), MiTV and Galaxy Television.

This is away from the usual Nairaland tribalistic nonsense. It's not uncommon to find mutilated corpses on main roads in the South West, particularly Osun, Ogun and Oyo States.

It beats me how the most liberal and most detribalized region in Nigeria ranks that high for ritual killings.

budaatum:
According to you perhaps. There are many countrys on this planet earth where you'd find it impossible to charge one for it, that's for sure, and you ain't anyone's god, disstroy.

But see what you did there. Not a murderer if, "only be when the foetus threatens the mother's life healthwise or in cases of rape", lol.

Abortion is valid only when the mother's life is threatened. It's not murder but the humane choice.

If someone points a gun at you and keeps shooting and the last option to neutralize him is to kill him, you didn't commit murder. You were defending your life.

The foetus threatening the mother's life isn't murder.

Murder occurs when malicious intent is established.


Even in places where abortion is forbidden, a threat to the mother's life by the foetus as a last option by abortion can be sanctioned by it's father or the health official. Go check.

You wouldn't know this because deductive thinking isn't your strong point. So, yes, go ahead - 'LOL' like a simpleton, typically.

sanpipita:
But most conservative laws don't give this exemption, in Poland a woman died despite the fact the pregnancy was a threat to her life, Texas and Florida are making strict anti abortions and people are not seeing the problem.

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2022/jan/27/protests-flare-across-poland-after-death-of-young-mother-denied-an-abortion

Conservative laws are partly driven by religiosity. Even religious doctrines are being adjusted based on modern realities and new information.

Abortion should be legal under certain circumstances (hsrf choice to save the mother's. Just the same way euthanasia doesn't mean freedom to kill elderly or sick people at will.

I have an issue with Liberal agreeing to legality of abortion under ANY circumstance.

donjazet:
But I don't see folks like you highlight the positive impacts of America on the globe too. You only focus on the extremities. America has been a force for good much more than bad. I'm not absolving them of their sins but they represent better values than any other nation.

America's foreign policy is not the same as Americans' impact on the world or companies owned by Americans.

Nigerian music and movie industries are the best in Africa but the Nigerian government and its policies are trash compared to many African countries.

Two truths can exist independent of each other, man. One doesn't have to negate the other.

donjazet:
So which is better? Is Russian authoritarianism or Chinese communism better than western democracy??
Given the choice of countries, which Will you choose to go to between Russia, China, North Korea, and united states'and it's democratic Allies?

That's what you don't get. We are debating the foreign policies of countries, not their internal policies. The U.S. internal policies are better in contrast but its foreign policy is the worst in the world.

There are 8 billion people in the world so just because the U.S. treats its 330 million residents better than China and Russia doesn't absolve it of the shitstorm it causes world over.

Evans is a kidnapper but a loving father. Abba Kyari being a loving sibling doesn't make him absolve him of the evil he perpetrated.

Amoto94:
If Russia were to be as powerful as US they will be more devastating and brutal their communist past has shown that given power they will be deadly.

Or that's what the Western propaganda machine would have you believe. Obama and Bush started and/or instigated more wars/conflicts than all heads of states in Europe and Asia combined this 21st Century. And thats just two U.S. Presidents. If you doubt it, let's do a run down of conflicts/wars in the 21st Century.

if devastation and brutality were a football league, the U.S. would be Bayern Munich.

budaatum:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-43073424

In today's world of advanced medicine, abortion should only be when the foetus threatens the mother's life healthwise or in cases of rape, else it is murder. There are contraceptives to use.

No matter how you spin it, if you take a life for no justifiable reason at its basics, you are a murderer.

chopnaira:
Ya ah calls yaself tech expert Buti ya ah nat knows dat a seach engine ah bring results based onu da reflection ofu ita users

No Wanda Naijaeriya ah enta gutta everyday

Kikikikikikiki

You are stupid. All were searched for in incognito mode and caches cleared.

No, I don't call myself a tech expert - I am one in my field who makes a living off tech with a verifiable portfolio on the internet which you can see by just searching my full names.

Basilico , here's another real-time proof of Big Tech bias like Google and the rest in favour of the Left.


If you search "Hillary Clinton lied" for news about her mails and testimonies;

On DuckDuckGo - which is not biased, it shows search results of neutral and right-leaning websites and the left too on the frontpage. https://duckduckgo.com/?q=hillary+clinton+lied&t=h_&ia=web . These analyze the situation logically.

On Google, it prioritizes news articles from Leftist media and even from junk Left websites while it pushes others to lower pages. https://www.google.com/search?q=hillary+clinton+lied These websites defend Hillary's actions and praise her as a "strong woman". So anybody who searches on Google would think she did no wrong and go with the narrative.

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First screenshot in black: DuckDuckGo .

Second screenshot in white: Google.

And that's the junk Leftist litter all over social media as factual opinion when they are just programmed puppets.

Manipulating the SEO.

budaatum:
But that's not the point here diss. The article I posted shows how they hounded drumpthfg and lost. Basically, egg on their face, but your "obvious bias" blinds you to that fact it seems.

Characteristically, I would hit the nail continuously instead of hitting many nails and securing none.

Your responses so far show you think Trump is in the wrong - given the nickname you term him. Whether he is or not guilty isn't my issue but the validity of the news source you quoted.

Give me an Al Jazeera news article on "them" hounding him and we are good. Whether we think it is for or against, CNN isn't a valid news source for partisan issues because it always has a skewed agenda.

I'd repeatedly explain it to you. I mean, I'm not going to discriminate against you due to your IQ. I can tolerate challenged people too, sometimes. Just be honest and point out the parts you don't get, and I'd get someone to translate in gugugaga for you, I promise.

budaatum:
You obviously missed the conversation or you'd realise they had to eat humble pie with that particular article about cases against drumpthg being dropped.

By your reasoning they would have buried that information instead.

You are missing the point.

If I have previously stated on another thread that I hate you and want to see the end of you, the day a brawl happens on this thread involving you and some other guy, and I am called upon to testify; the fact that I have admitted an obvious bias against you in the past means my testimony is not admissible in this public court.

What you did or didn't do isn't the point then, but me lacking the standing to bear witness in the issue because I have a premeditated bias which would taint how I testify against you.

New York Times, CNN and those who have admitted hatred for Trump are not credible news sources for a testimony against him. Bring me Al Jazeera or the seemingly neutral likes.

You don't get it and it beats me that you don't. I expect more from you, Budaatum.

basilico:
Hey Diss

There seems to be a ruling elite behind the scenes. Against conservative views. And its worldwide. In my opinion it seems like a coordinated effort to stem dissent.
media has been fully made compliant,
I think that Goolag Google/Facebook is the major driver behind these machinations. Ad revenue is where money is made. He who controls the money controls the mind.
I believe you are a Search Engine Optimization expert. Because thats where mony is.

As a neutral who isn't involved in the ongoing USA/U.K. versus Russia proxy war, if you ever were in doubt about the bias of big tech and the media, they way they have reported the details of the Ukraine crisis would open four eyes.

It's been common knowledge that search results are manipulated and some contrary news sources outrightly refused to be indexed by Google and the likes.

That's why many people are increasingly using alternative search engines like DuckDuckGo.

In fact, it is very easy for a Leftist to remove a search result showing a Right-leaning opinion. All you have to do is add "discriminatory" or "homophobic" or trash points like that and your query would be quickly replied.

The supposed bots are programmed and vettted by people who are biased to begin with.

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Please find out the number of times GoDaddy has seized and deactivated the domain names of Right-leaning websites (I could give you popular examples), but such domain hosting companies are supposed to be neutral.


The elites control these companies who control the search results for their agenda.

Similar to .NG controlled by the FG, and I avoid buying .NG domains for certain reasons.

budaatum:
If you'd bothered to follow the conversation from its inception you'd understand the irony of posting a positive outcome for drumpthgp to prove my point, but of course that would mean work on your part which is not to be expected.

The truth is drumpthgp did not cop a plea for a crime he claimed he did not commit, and it would have been stupid if he had copped a plea.

You got caught in a web. You used a news source that has openly declared hatred for a man as evidence against the very same man. Even in a law court, an established history of bias against a defendant standing trial already nullifies the credibility of a witness or a prosecutor.

New York Times and CNN have stated obvious seething hatred for Trump which negates their credibility in issues about him.

budaatum:
That's the news that fit my agenda so I've used it.

Now you put it correctly: It's your agenda negating the actual truth.

Post like yours are the ones which should actually have the fact-checkers' label as false information.

budaatum:
This is what happens when you refuse to cop a plea for a crime you claim to have never committed.

New York Times and CNN or the Leftist media are no dependable sources for news about Trump as those outlets have repeatedly admitted their hatred for him over the years since he became POTUS.

It's like using Daily Post Nigeria as a news outlet source about Igbos - they are obviously biased towards Igbos and have a Fulani/Hausa-centric agenda.


Al Jazeera would be more credible.

Truthisunique2:
Port Harcourt no be Kano mate for infrastructure or average human capital

Dude, why do you folks like propaganda? If you've been to Rivers State, you'd know even as far back as 2013, the flyover was already complete. And it was by Amaechi.

Wike only redecorated it.

What's with you folks and lies? Same CFC where Corpus Christi Church is located?

LordReed:
And for for all the many words you type you are pretty dumb. Boko Haram became a terror group after radicalisation. And it was not the availability of weapons that radicalised them but a dundee united like you will link 2 unlinked events like the bumbling idiot you turn out to be.

Accûrsed newt! Boko Haram was a radical group from the 90's, but it wasn't a terror group. When it got sophisticated arms and weapons which Obama unwittingly gifted it indirectly via arming militants during the Arab Spring (from 2010), it became a terror group.

Here's Reuters reporting in 2012 how militant groups in West Africa were having access to Libyan weapons (including the ones Obama was gifting to rebels) for regime change.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-libya-un-arms-idUSTRE80P1QS20120126

You sure do have a shunted brain.

gambojimeta:
Contexts Isa neededs

Don't do that - don't try to be smart by half.

You highlighted the statement credited to the Nobel Prize secretary but screenshotted and posted Obama's reported comment.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34277960

LordReed:
Your logic is just as faulty as those who blamed Trump for corona virus so no buddy the infant here is you. Boko Haram's radicalisation was not because of Obama, just as corona virus spreading had nothing to do with Trump. Only kindergarten level thinkers would link such events to who is president in the US which it seems you are one.

You are extremely stûpid! Boko Haram as a name literally means "No to western culture", which makes it literally a radical group.

IPOB is a radical group. Odua People's Republic is a radical group. Feminist Coalition is a radical group.

Boko Haram became a top terror group after weapons from Benghazi and which Obama gifted Libya rebels trickled down south. These things are in the public sphere.

I pointedly mentioned terror group but you twisted it to radical group because you are devious.

Boko Haram would never have become this deadly without the weapons Obama gifted Libyan rebels and him destroying Libya (including Benghazi).


'Lord', read! Read!

LordReed:
I addressed the ISIS component of your statement. Also what did Boko Haram becoming a terror group after Yusuf's death got to do with Obama? Was it Obama that ordered the killing of Yusuf?

You are a child if you don't see the correlation between Obama and Boko Haram.

When Yusuf was killed in 2009, Boko Haram wasn't a terror group.

During the Arab Spring, when Obama invaded and destroyed Libya, and armed militant groups to cause mayhem, stockpiled arms from Benghazi and US arms moved down south into Northern Nigeria.

This was late 2010 to 2011. That was when Boko Haram became a notable terror group.

There are thousands of articles and thinkpieces detailing how that action of Obama militarized West Africa, and gave rise to ISWAP (and armed Boko Haram). I have posted some over the months and a few today here, but LordReed from Nairaland is hell-bent of rewriting history to suit his skewed narrative.

So bad, even Nobel regretted awarding Obama the Peace Prize.

LordReed:
You sure about that?

Selective amnesia?

Boko Haram was never a terror group until 2010 after Yusuf was killed. It existed for years for then but wasn't a terror group. extremists? Yes.

The indirect actions of Obama bolstered it with the Libyan arms which trickled down south.

Interestingly, you avoided all evidence which nailed your Lord Obama to pick at straws? See how predictable you lots are?

You even avoided evidence of Obama admitting Libya was a mistake or the Nobel Secretary regretting awarding Obama the Peace Prize.