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The Yorubas on the whole are arguably the least tribalised of the 3 most populous tribes. I've stated that in preceding months and years on this forum.

But it comes with a caveat: If you speak the language and adopt the cultures in some ways, you are more likely to be accepted an accorded more rights in communities than in other two regions.

You are less likely to experience tribal-fueled prejudice in Ogun State than in Abia State.
Maybe it's because of the proximity to Lagos and the close to a century of it being an administrative/economic capital of Nigeria.

Gbenga Daniel had SAs from other tribes when he was governor. Same in Lagos too.

Being the least tribalistic of the 3 doesn't make you not tribal - you are just as guilty of tribalism. But there are many exceptions in this for the worse.
Exceptions like the Oba of Lagos threatening genocide on Igbos if they don't vote Tinubu's choice - no Igbo, Fulani/Hausa traditional ruler has ever been silly enough to say something like this.
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Since the reason for supporting Tinubu of the options isn't based on merit - He's old, sickly and has question marks in every stage of his past which are not presidential traits anywhere in the world - the only other plausible reason is tribalism. Tribalism is the enemy of logic.

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I can love the EPL with all my life then troll other EPL clubs with vindictiveness while loving only one of the clubs.

Two truths can exist.

Itsrm:
ASUU should GTFO.

I'm with Keyamo on this. If they can't do the work they should resign. This nonsense where employees can decide to hold their employers to ransom at the detriment of students must stop.

Coming from someone who defended Abba Kyari the fraudulent policeman and wanted Wike to be president simply because Wike is thuggish, this is rich and tells even more about you.

Itsrm:
This is not true at all.

There's nothing in the document that proves Kyari knew the exact nature of the Job Hush was talking about. You have always leaned towards illegalities and vices.

Itsrm:
This is exactly why we need Wike. If he had sacked all of them in 2013 and replaced them, we will not be having ASUU strike today.

El Rufai did the same in Kaduna and heaven did not fall

donjazet:
These tribal bigots being led by their black Hitler himself keep thinking everyone is like them.
They keep thinking that everyone generalizes a whole people solely on the basis of tribe.

Foolish bigots.

Politics is more than getting upvoted in this virtual echobox.

For two months now I have asked them to show me one APC candidate in the South South and South East especially who is rooting for Tinubu, they can't.

There are 36 states and since canvassing is also local, I have narrowed it down to ask them to show me one candidate in Akwa Ibom who is attaching anything Tinubu to their campaigns, they still can't. Even one.

All they are saying, including the ones I get to talk to, is, "All man for himself". They know Tinubu is unsellable. The same people campaigned for Osinbajo over even Godswill Akpabio who's from the same state and has very credible records as governor (including myself, not forgetting here on Nairaland) and nobody batted an eyelid. Everyone saw PYO as that unifying diplomat.
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Even Osinbajo's campaign manager, Richard Akinnola, is refusing to campaign for Tinubu and taunts him everyday on Facebook. Including the whole team.

The Akwa Ibom State APC governorship candidate, Akan Udofia, is refusing to campaign for Tinubu or attaching anything Tinubu to his campaign. Same man was rooting for Osinbajo.
Akan Udofia is a billionaire and a close associate of Godswill Akpabio.

All the senatorial and house of representatives candidates are refusing to attach anything Tinubu to their campaign. Some of them were rooting for Osinbajo. I know one who funded the Osinbajo billboards in some parts of the state.
Even Godswill Akpabio has kept mum about Tinubu since the primaries.

Both Osinbajo and Tinubu are Yorubas. One loved and the other a poster boy for vices.
An unsellable candidate is an unsellable candidate, whitewash as you may.

Nobody has termed anyone a tribalist for supporting Osinbajo.

Osinbajo has billboards of him aspiring to be president which are standing in all state capitals in the South-South and South-East.

When you can't template your support for your candidate based on antecedence, credibility and integrity, then the only other reason is tribalism since he is from your place.

The Igbos didn't support Dave Umahi or Nigige . Ngige especially, who like Peter Obi, is a former governor of Anambra but unlike Peter Obi, he's not credible.

Few people would have accused you of being tribalistic if you rooted for Fayemi who's credible despite being in the APC and has a track record of fighting for human rights, including being the main consultant for the Oputa Panel.

Few people would accuse you of being tribalistic if you rooted for Osinbajo. He's loved in all States in the SS and SE, and had visible organic campaign organizations.

But most of you wanted Tinubu from the onset. It tells more about your personalities.
Supporting a sickly geriatric drug mule who has cognitive issues when they are better candidates reeks of everything you try to project on others. You are on the defensive because it pricks you.

Own it. Accept it. Accept who you are which is an unrepentant tribalist instead of seeking to defend or salvage your nonexistent claim to integrity. YOU ARE TRUBALISTS.

Obrigardo:
You are not wrong. The error of Obama admin in Libya gave more fire to the Insurgent Militant and Armed Boko Haram. Anyone who thinks it's a fantasy can quote me and i'll show you the trail of how it happened.

Stop acting like you are positing anything new. For years on this thread since 2020, I argued against Obama, posting evidence and analyses of him being the worst POTUS to happen to Africa and being responsible for Boko Haram.

Throughout that time, you Leftists defended him. Now you have turn around to reiterate the claims I made.

DissTroy:
You have selective amnesia or worse? Obama as a comparative saint to anyone?

Same Obama who destroyed and fueled the destruction of the Middle East using the Arab Spring bait?

Same Obama who killed Ghadaffi?

Same Obama who allowed USA soldiers die needlessly in Benghazi when they could have been saved because he didn't want to offend his ISIS friends?

Same case Killary Clinton had to testify for when she was caught deleting emails and her emails were leaked making her and Obama complicit in these crimes?

Same Obama who was paying Iran billions of dollars and didn't tame them from making nuclear weapons?

Same Obama who has admitted that he made a grave mistake dabbling into the Middle East isuues and Libya was his greatest mistake?

Same Obama who refusing to call ISIS, Al Qaeda and the likes terrorists?

Same Obama who is directly and indirectly responsible for Boko Haram moving from being a ragtag group to the second most dangerous terror group in the world because of the weapons he allowed militia groups have access to from the pillaged Benghazi and arming these terrorists?

How dare you lie about a fact that has been admitted over and over again on the internet and in the media in this age of global connectivity and quick access to information?!

DissTroy:
The worst reaction was Obama last night. Predictably, last night, Obama, the man who led the invasion and destruction of economic powerhouse and successful country, Libya, tweeted to advice world powers and ask Russia to act with "decency, respect, and international laws".

Obama invaded and ruined Libya even after Russia, China and neutral countries begged him not to, but he's lecturing others. It's like Babaginda tweeting about free and fair elections, and coups. The height of hypocrisy!

Anytime you read of Boko Haram and ISWAP killings, just know Obama and Hillary Clinton, via arming Libyan militants, caused us this pain. Goodluck and Buhari only mismanaged the fallout, but both were never the cause.


Same Obama who confessed years later in 2016 before leaving office that "invading and destroying Libya" was the worst mistake he ever did: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/apr/12/barack-obama-says-libya-was-worst-mistake-of-his-presidency.

There were no such terror groups as ISIS and ISWAP before Obama became POTUS in 2008. Yet he was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize.

Even the Nobel Secretary admitted awarding Obama was a mistake: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34277960 .

Why is Obama still treated like a hero? Why do the media still worship him? Because he's an establishment puppet with the gift of the gab?

DissTroy:
Accûrsed newt! Boko Haram was a radical group from the 90's, but it wasn't a terror group. When it got sophisticated arms and weapons which Obama unwittingly gifted it indirectly via arming militants during the Arab Spring (from 2010), it became a terror group.

Here's Reuters reporting in 2012 how militant groups in West Africa were having access to Libyan weapons (including the ones Obama was gifting to rebels) for regime change.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-libya-un-arms-idUSTRE80P1QS20120126

You sure do have a shunted brain.

You all spent most of your time here whitewashing Hillary and Obama now you want to turn around to reiterate the very things those against them stated and denied?

DissTroy:
Amoto94 has always been a terrorist apologist and extremophile. When I refer to him as 'Shekau-lite', it's not a taunt but the truth.

The ironic thing is, he's from Kogi State and Ebira tribe precisely. His state is one of the very centers of Fulani herdsmen murdering spree and his people get killed daily in their farms and homes but he is defending and whitewashing the very group killing his relatives.
https://www.google.com/search?q=kogi+fulani+clashes

While the halfwitted Shekau-lite was on this thread defending Fulani herdsmen and whitewashing them, the same herdsmen went on a murdering spree killing policemen and vigilantes, invading farms and wrecking havoc yesterday:

https://www.nairaland.com/7255542/suspected-bandits-kill-three-kogi .

OkpaNsukkaisBae:
Dis AMOTO guy is funny.

u blame BBC 4 doing their work!

oya go ban bbc as una nak twitter ban during endsarrs.

u don carry ur blame game reach RUGA....

Amoto94 has always been a terrorist apologist and extremophile. When I refer to him as 'Shekau-lite', it's not a taunt but the truth.

The ironic thing is, he's from Kogi State and Ebira tribe precisely. His state is one of the very centers of Fulani herdsmen murdering spree and his people get killed daily in their farms and homes but he is defending and whitewashing the very group killing his relatives.
https://www.google.com/search?q=kogi+fulani+clashes

onyemaair:
Totilo.pussylick
Naija.Royalty, Mada.mVanessa
Peng.muin2, Smim.thkafors, Co.olsperm
colorsofr.ainbow Pete.rObi4LP, Anamb.ra1stSon
Your services are needed here. People's brains are being raped by agbado urchins steadily. Your country needs your services before fence seaters are led astray.

You should be doing this on front-page where such shallow things happen and the lack of intellectualism is why I don't engage with front-page politics threads. Predictably, these people would just post memes and nothing more.

The people rooting for Tinubu hwre would barely be convinced otherwise. The next thing is to counter any perceived lie with facts anyone can reference. That's what either side has been doing here, for most parts.

The monikers you mentioned are digital mobsters who barely contribute anything new to debates. We'd see nothing more than "Yoruba Muslim" and such flood the thread. It's just like mentioning MannaBBQ.grills and Helinûes to come defend Tinubu. They'd never debate beyond "Ipîgs" and such things.

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You mentioned you're a civil servant. That's a pool of references to pick instances of bad governance under Buhari or the APC from. Mention the corruption in the bureaucracy you've noticed and how Buhari's might be complicit. That's a dent on him and Tinubu as the later claims he wants to continue Buhari's legacy.
Mention any religious or tribal favouritism you might have noticed in your ministry.

Illimitable, I read your takes on taxation in Nigeria and Nigerians barely paying tax. That's true but you are forgetting to faction in the aspect of governments at the state and LGA levels deliberately refusing to digitise taxation (payments, recurring payments and valuation).

Except Lagos state in recent years (and partially so), all other states have rebuffed the idea of digitisation of taxation. Most of the taxes paid to via other means are not accounted for.

Asides Lagos, the only other state which has a portal for everything taxation is Rivers State but the website is deliberately left at that. Beautiful but not functional. That's a factor you are forgetting.

Imagine have a centralised online portal for each state and/or payment via USSD.

ToyinDipo:
Health will certainly affect performance, but there are some people with health issues that you will pick ahead of some healthy people for leadership role. Yaradua vs Jonathan

Yar'Adua wasn't a saint or necessarily better. We have a culture of idolising and whitewashing the legacies and pasts of leaders in the distant past and canonising them.

Yar'Adua was a weak leader and his presidency was marred by corruption and illegalities.

Here's an LA Times op-ed on Yar'Adua, for example: https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2010-may-07-la-me-umaru-yaradua-20100507-story.html .
ASUU went on strike twice under Yar'Adua (when he wasn't hospitalized) and at a point for 4 straight months in 2009: https://www.pulse.ng/communities/student/all-the-times-ASUU-has-gone-on-strike-since-1999/5jtb8cs .

Same way we canonise Zik and Murtala Mohammed.

Some of us dig into and do comparative history, including of sociopolitics.

But Yar'Adua was just the lesser evil so far. He had barely 2 years to fully manifest as good or bad.

ToyinDipo:
But what could Bihari have done better if he was healthy.

GMB plunged Nigeria into recession as a young healthy man in the 1980's and was an absentee GCFR. The naira against dollar plunge was steeper when he came to power.
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Willpower to actually lead right isn't only templated on age. Age is a factor but it's just one of the factors.

But one needs to be healthy to actively lead.

Segedinho:
A pry 6 pupil will laugh at this yardstick..

How about your ancestor concern's about exchange rate?

do you believe he was joking or there is an iota of sense in it

When you see such person's copying and pasting lengthy nonsense for propaganda, you ignore them since the main essence of the lengthy nonsense lifted from other places is bamboozle, not to argue.

Plagiarism is their stock-in-trade that's why they'd lift and paste lengthy nonsense without quoting the source or actual author. Reminds me of Buhari's plagiarized speech scandal.

A dîmwit supporting a drug dealer who also illegally taxes Lagos to death deserves whatever collective fate befalls him and his.

Ihebu4chelsea:
Why not include the UCL?? Mediocre Team!!

Barcelona: 5 UCLs, 5 Supercups.

Chelsea: 2 UCLs, 2 Supercups.
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Number of UCLs won in the 21st Century:

Barcelona: 4.

Chelsea: 2.

You came all the way from the Chelsea thread to come disgrace yourself here.

obonujoker:
Zidane ucl exploits bigger than any iniesta ucl exploit...

As players;

Zidane: Only 1 UCL trophy.

Iniesta: 4 UCL trophies.

Given YOUR premise for comparison, Iniesta > Zidane.
But a Joker wouldn't realize this.

raumdeuter:
If you check that thread you will see that As expected the ObiOma crew have poured all types of curses on Adeboye just because he told people to vote whoever they want.

"ObiOma" is supposedly a tailor in Igbo. Being a "tailor" is legal; after all, that's Yomi Casual's claim to fame. There's dignity in labour.

I'd choose being part of the "ObiOma Crew" than in a drug-trafficking crew anyday and all day.

Wishing you agbado and light.

Android17:
Nigerians were generally in support of subsidy removal, the issue with Jonathan's govt was that things had worsened under him to an unmanageable level, there was zero accountability such that marketers got paid billions without importing a drop of refined crude products, Jonathan wanted to abruptly remove it completely without setting palliatives in place to cushion the effect of such a removal and Nigerians did not trust any of the people he appointed in position to execute this project.

Don't forget too that this same Tunde Bakare, under the Save Nigeria Group fought for Jonathan to be sworn in as acting president when Yar Adua was sick and incapacitated.

This whataboutism is ill-timed and misdirected.

Facts are facts.

Bakare swore and fought against subsidy removal - this year his manifesto was to remove subsidy removals.

Tinubu said he didn't believe in "One Nigeria" - today he wants to be president of "One Nigeria".

Abba Kyari swore against and jailed drug pushers - today he's a jailed drug pusher.

Facts are facts. Revisionism is always lost on me. Trying to take back what you said or deny your past is dishonesty.

The same Bakare who, in 2012, was at the forefront of the campaign of calumny against GEJ who proposed removing fuel subsidy campaigned this year as part of his manifesto to remove fuel subsidy - the very removal which he campaigned against.

https://www.thecable.ng/thecable-qa-ill-do-transparent-and-phased-removal-of-subsidy-says-bakare/amp

The same Bakare who has continually failed in his hallucinatory prophecies about Nigeria and elections, and claiming he'd God showed him he'd be president in 2019 and 2023 is the one these happy-go-lucky folks reference?

Portable has more credibility. At least with Portable, you can predict he's loyal to the money source and doesn't defraud using supposed divinity.

Android17:
Tunde Bakare brought SKODA to Nigeria which made him a very wealthy man in the early 90s. He even got a private Jet in 1993 or so perhaps the first of any Christian minister in Nigeria at the time and that could never have come from Latter rain Assembly or Citadel as it is now called.

Maybe; but then again, maybe not. The ONLY reference to Tunde Bakare and SKODA on the internet is him claiming in a 2009 Sahara Reporters that he brought the company to Nigeria. No specifics about how much of SKODA Nigeria he owns, how much it was worth, the value now or any other source stating this. None.

That's how Tinubu got away with claiming he earned millions of dollars as a Mobil accountant for years until we found out he was paid less then $3000 monthly. And the millions from other less than noble sources.

Wisely, since then Tunde Bakare doesn't re-echo that line, especially now. Don't set him up for digging during this period.

izzou:
[color=royalblue]DissTroy abeg.

Which one be Pulpit bandit ?[/color]

If you are part of those waging wars which sideline the very religion you milk to amass wealth and holding adherents of that religion political captive and handcuffed to injustice given the current sociopolitical dynamics in exchange for ransome (which comes as political patronage from Tinubu or Buhari), then you are a pulpit bandit.

This is what Mr. Tunde is. Plain and simple.

Ihebu4chelsea:
Class is winning any competition in front of you!! Sevilla Plays in the champions league year in year out with nothing to show...... We conquered Europe Twice!!

Why is your anger directed at me? If class is Chelsea winning a loser's cup twice then Sevilla is a whole school and above you. Or you want to imply you're CLASSier than Sevilla?

BlueRayDick:
A “man of God” who can’t pay his debt is no man of God. Even Lannisters while at war pay their debts !

Snide remarks are not the way. Go head-on in debates so it's easier to reference for people in retrospect.
These kids gloves you guys attack the lies peddled by these Agbadovillians isn't effective.

Everyone knows Tunde Bakare is a Rev. Mbaka with more sophistry. The pulpit bandit who protested fuel subsidy removal in hopes of being Buhari's VP only to lost his voice in way of Buhari's woeful performance and supporting the sidelining of the very religion on which alter he acquired his pilfered wealth? Who takes Mr. Bakare seriously these days? Not even Buhari, the APC or the delegates do.

Ihebu4chelsea:
I Played there 2 times
..Guess what?? I Won it 2 times too. (CLASS)

If winning the Europa means Chelsea is class then Sevilla is a whole school and above you.

izzou:
[color=royalblue]Coursera

Meta owns the course[/color]

I figured so.
If you intend to master frontend development, these MOOC coding courses are too rigid.

Try FreeCodeCamp YouTube page to download all such videos and the website. More handy and project-focused. Has certificates too and it's more respected in the tech industry. FREE too.

Try Mimo app and Sololearn app. You can use Sololearn offline too when you download the course repositories. You can learn in transit even with no network reception. You'd learn faster and build more real-world projects that way.

izzou:
[color=royalblue]I say make I earn one tech certificate on the sides.

I start one Front End Dev course online.

Omo, I never even finish the first module, e be like say the whole world dey my head

HTML5, CSS, Bootstrap....

Javascript still dey forward, I go still learn React.


Person no go give up like this?[/color]

What platform?

"Show me where I supported Deborah's killing".

May 14, 2022: Check below.

Amoto94:
The narrations on apostasy/blasphemy are well known and accepted by me just like committing treason the punishment is death once every condition has been met, I'm unapologetic about the stance of Islam on these issues. There are no truths in what the opponents of Islam have said they take isolated cases and specific issues to generalize without taking into context what warrant certain rulings.

Amoto94:
Are you afraid of the curses laid on your head and your ilk? From saying I supported the murder of Deborah you're now trying to shift the goalpost to divert attention away to your initial claim how dishonest and deceitful can you be.
If supporting capital punishment for the highway robbers, adulterers, kidnappers , rapists, slanderers, bandits, as instructed by the Lord of Seven Heavens and Earth and all that is between them gets you bothered then I don't give a hoot about you and your entire existence.

Aha! Shekau mini finally masters the courage to quote me. But I baited you by withholding one of your incriminating comments.

Here is Amoto94 justifying the gruesome murder of Deborah in May 2022 and insisting on it.

Amoto94:
I can't prevent a basket from leaking water because it wasn't meant for storing water likewise I can't help you out in your delusion and confusion because this has been your hallmark and modus operandi. I'm not interested to what history has to say about because history has rarely been objective, my stance is what happened in Sokoto is wrong but I support the penalty for blasphemy sodomites, adulterers, rapists, highway-robbers, defamators and other vices in line with Islamic injunctions. This is my belief

Cue the ensuing comments and even moderate Muslims on the Chelsea thread condemning him.
https://www.nairaland.com/920248/official-chelsea-fan-thread-champions/14116#112912308

Like Aîrmárk mentioned then, it's the classic Taqqiyya tactic of terrorists to deny.

Amoto94:
Check my threads refuting BH and my posts sharing Islamic resources countering extremism. May the curse of God be on all those who said I support the killing of Deborah.

Shekau-lite, but you've always supported killing for Islamic reasons and other such barbaric acts.

You were called out the Chelsea thread this year and have been called out over the previous years.

In fact, here's just one of my comments on the Chelsea thread regarding that and posting links of you doing so:

DissTroy:
A quick local-search of " Amoto94 kill" here on Nairaland reveals he's always been an Islamic extremist and a terrorism apologist.

Many of you have called him out for his pro-Islamic-extremism views over the years, but the problem is you all seem to forget after he posts a few Tweet quotes of Chelsea FC activities.

Like here where he was implicitly defending Boko Haram last year: https://www.nairaland.com/920248/official-chelsea-fan-thread-champions/12214#104665240 .

Just because he's literate doesn't mean he's educated.
Literacy is knowing how to read and write, and translate to actions. Education is being refined in thoughts and completely pragmatic, and literacy is just a subset of it.

For anyone who wants to follow Afro-Osama's exposure, follow this link:https://www.nairaland.com/920248/official-chelsea-fan-thread-champions/14105#112883134 .

Others might be supporting Tinubu for other reasons but for you, Amoto94, we know it's in expectation of Shariaistan234.

Joezinho:
Simpleton said I am not from Lagos... .. The way you tell lies with confidence is amazing and should be studied...

You must be moving mad..Ori gbogbo yin ti daru.. O da pe e ti shiere tiran tiran...

Who cares if you speak Spanish?

Blah bleh skrriiii ..... GTFO, ode...

You've always referred to me as "Oga Kay" or form a cordiality by referring to me by my more popular Nairaland moniker. That wouldn't change now.

You aren't from Lagos. Worse even, you are dumb and culturally ignorant. You don't even know the ethnic composition of the South West where you are from and it needed me to teach you about your own tribal affiliations. You don't even know your history or when the term "Yoruba" came to be or linguistic variations of Yoruba subethnics. I taught you freely.

Nobody has ever been able to find out lies in my claims or me being hypocritical despite the number of arguments I go head-on on this forum. I do my research and I'm well-grounded in facts.

In fact, my claim to fame on Nairaland is templated primarily on my ability to argue based on fact and dig up facts.

You? Not the same. Joezinho, you are just a cameo in every act on this forum, a vestigial appendage of the functioning body of Nairaland or this section, a forgettable knucklehead only as impactful as the lines drawn by a diseased turtle on a seashore only to be washed away in a split second by waves like you never happened. You less than the shadow of a fly on a this wall.

OkpaNsukkaisBae:
Amoto94....

Can you respond? Dis wan na serious allegation. He no talk am 4 ur back!

He dares not. It's on the Chelsea thread. The whole thread condemned him and he went underground for a while with everyone shaming him for justifying Deborah's murder.
It's not a one-off. Over the years, he's been called out on the same Chelsea thread for defending Islamic terrorism.

We all know why the Shekau-lite supports Tinubu. He feels Agbadoman embodies Shariaistan given the posturing.