₦airaland Forum

Your generation had the golden opportunity to shape Nigeria and to develop it considering the population and wealth at the time. Now you've a lot of graduates with no jobs, so what do you expect smart graduates to do? You already created the right environment from yahoo yahoo, crimes and fraud. Everything rises and falls on leadership so if Buhari that has not improved himself since 1985, has no school he built, no book he wrote, no business he owns will improve the lives of 200 million people then we are expecting way too much! He cannot just give what he doesn't have.

After the civil war, rather than go back to where we were in 1966, we continued with a system of conquest even when we knew that was not what was negotiated by the ethnic nationalities at independence. We thought that if the other two main ethnic groups are having the spoils of war then it's ok but we did not look towards the future to know that such system of injustice would lead us to be the poverty capital of the world and the third most terrorized country. Unless we restructure, breakup is inevitable

drlateef:
Ahahahah! The leadership is not the only problem with Nigeria. Even the followers have done more damage to the country. Buhari is not Hush Puppy, Buhari is not yahoo boys. Buhari is not the bribe takers among the police, customs, every staff taking bribe in civil service. Buhari is not the spare parts dealer who sells fake products or the medicine dealer who sells fake medicine. Nigeria is on top when it comes to cyber crimes in the world. We are not the only impoverished people. Somalis are hungrier than us, yet they keep their dignity. We need a social re-orientation. When EFCC picks up someone from your village or church, do you not shout them down? Do you ask for the source of wealth of your village champions ? Do you ask where people get the millions they pay as tithes in churches? People were not this rotten in the early sixties and seventies. But the present generation is a get-rich-quick generation. They will not blame themselves but the government.

Tinubu's Lagos! Such a disaster considering her wealth

And yet you're pretending not to know what's happening in Nigeria? If truly you campaigned
with Awolowo then it would suffice to say that your generation failed Nigeria because having gotten independence, you squandered it to bring Nigeria to this pathetic state. If we were under colonialism till 1990, we would have been better. I'm sure you voted for Buhari, a monumental disaster!

The NASS is a fraudulent chamber esp this rubber stamp assembly. A new constitution that will eliminate this wasteful bicameral legislature is what we need

drlateef:
I probably might be older than you. To give you a hint, I was always attending Awolowo’s campaign. We’re you borne then?

If it's free then congratulations to the PDP!
The only national party

Arguing with you will waste my time. If you're sincere, you will use the indices of development to compare all administration from 1999 to date and find the % improvement or decrease in these indices including corruption then you will see how you were deceived by propaganda. The internet is there, use it!

ThatFairGuy1:
The Most progressive? You must be joking.

Someone was fortunate to be president when oil price was at its peak(ever in Nigeria history) but nothing to show for it other than looting and borrowing to pay workers' salaries.

Besides, tell us those problems he solved. Waiting to hear from you

GEJ was the most progressive president we had, he solved far more problems than almost other president except Obj and he could have done more if he was allowed to implement the confab

ThatFairGuy1:
You deliberately misquoted me due to what you had in mind already.

"One of the reason" Quoted.

Will you now say he isn't one of the reasons Mr critical and object thinker?

GEJ is the reason we are where we are today? So in your view all the problem of Nigeria started with GEJ? You lack objectivity and critical reasoning!

ThatFairGuy1:
Never will I vote GEJ again. People forget easily. He's one of the reason we are where we are today due to cluelessness.

His cabinet members looted all our money under his drunkard nose.

You see as you indicted yourself! You equated a 1 month snapshot as equivalent to 3yrs in a roll.
Read my comments again, GEJ never sold crude above $100 for even 2yrs. You might get few months above $100 but when you find the annualized average, it's less than $100.

This was how you guys were deceived in 2015 before elections that we sold oil for $140 throughout GEJ tenure when we didn't for even a yr!

blacknp:
Never abi?

Crude Oil Brent US Dollars per Barrel
Date Price $ Price €
July 2013 107.93$ 82.52€
June 2013 102.92$ 78.03€
May 2013 102.56$ 79.00€
April 2013 102.25$

https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&hl=en-ng&sxsrf=ALeKk03RpVw9Zt5j_J_m0pxmS__ya1M85w:1602082379347&q=Crude+oil+price+in+September+2013&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj2rfz43aLsAhXCQxUIHdFVCycQ1QIwEHoECBYQAg&biw=375&bih=553

Maybe General Buhari was President?

Who are the majority? Uneducated people who vote according to what their elites tell them? If Bubu tells the North to vote for Atiku after him they will. If Tinubu tells the west to vote for Peter Obi, they will so then who are the real majority? The elites are the majority

blacknp:
I know to you I guess the majority is wrong, whilst the minority is correct?

Let's restructure the country and forget all the cosmetics called PIB. Any policy or bill before restructuring is going to favor the North 70% like other similar bills in the past so what's the point?

Nigerians keep making the mistake of anyone else is better, that's how we landed with the disaster called Buhari. Pikin wey dey cry dey see road! We need to open our eyes to look for competent people who can move the country forward!

meditator:
Any other option is better than Jonathan

When uneducated people determine who becomes president. You my friend is uneducated! Compelling indeed

kabillionaire:
So by implication, you're compelling Johnathan with Buhari.
Don't do that, though I'm not a Buhari fan but, compelling them is like compelling Trump (Buhari) with Samuel Doe (Johnathan).
Johnathan failed.

In this internet age where data and info are available at your fingertips yet you're so blind! GEJ never sold oil above $100 even for 2 yrs.
You're just wasting internet!

peacekante:
I will never vote for a man who sold oil for $140 for more than 3years and could not improve our infrastructures, build our economy or save for us. Instead he allowed his people to loot our biggest oil boom ever and went again to borrow to pay salaries.

If we are in China according to Peter Obi, he will be executed .

No I will not make such mistake I made in 2011

It's either you're new in Nigeria or you're playing the ostrich. I don't have time to waste, goodbye

drlateef:
If you believe that your Rep is fraudulent, whose fault is that? Did you not vote him? And I don’t believe all Reps in the North are against restructuring? And even if that is so, why can’t your Reps from south expose them so that everyone knows those who are against progress in Nigeria? Let your Reps move the bills first and let’s see who will oppose them. That’s where to start from.

Tinubu will go the way of Awolowo. You've got it coming!

maasoap:
Go and check where they belong to. OPC, Afenifere and co. They're all PDP members and sympathisers. We're not surprised at all, Operation Python Dance III is awaiting all the trouble makers be it East or West.


You turned Jonathan against those who fought for him, all of a sudden, he became your son. All the insults pre-2015 are still on the internet.
And no be VP slot PDP dash una too later? Talk another thing, VP is better than being betrayed.



Osinbajo still remains the most active and visible VP since 1999. Although he made mistake like when he confirmed the mega corrupt judge as CJN, aka Mr rice importer.
Nothing new, he made statement but sons of hate twisted it.

I am from Delta state and I cannot say I'm in the same ethnic nationality as Urhobo. Niger delta is just a collection of many minority tribe that are not one people. So if Nigeria breaks up, it would be foolishness to think Niger Delta as presently constituted will form a nation

IkwerrePikin:
Who told you?

I’ve told you stick to your boundary and stop your attach by force.

Our father rejected your biafra in 1967 and we the generation of today will continue to reject it.

We Niger deltans will gain nothing to join Igbos for biafra absolutely nothing.

Niger delta republic for South South alone is far better than join igbos for biafra.

Can your biafra Enugu, onitsha, aba and owerri be compared to Port harcourt city, Benin city, Calabar city, Uyo city, Warri and Asaba?

Stay your lane and fight for your Igbo biafra

It is finished. Carry go our coordinating minister of the world economy

Niger Delta Republic is just a mirage! Nobody is even agitating for it

IkwerrePikin:
Know your boundary

Oil is the only thing holding Nigeria together!That's the reason so many unsustainable states were created

Coldie:
There's lot of things oil can be used for more than petrol/fuel.

The earlier u also realize that the glue holding Nigeria together is more than oil the better for u

The reason you are not seeing innovativeness to generate new sources of revenue is because there is a feeding bottle. Same way ND oil discovery killed groundnut pyramids in the North, cocoa in the SW, palm in the South and East, coal in Enugu ,timber etc. How much is a liter of groundnut oil and how much is a liter of petrol? The Netherlands that's not bigger than Oyo states generates $20 billion annually from agriculture alone, this is more than 50% of our annual budget
Also not that with cars not dependent on oil, demand will reduce drastically and supply will far outweigh demand driving price to less than $5/barrel

Coldie:
Tell me the resources FG is controlling in Enugu or Ebonyi?

Or the one they tried to develop and FG stopped them?

Also know that restructuring or breakup is inevitable. Oil is gonna be almost worthless like coal in 2030. Most developed countries have already set a timeline for phasing out petrol/diesel cars so we either direct the restructuring process or it will be forced on us, just a matter of time

Coldie:
Until now u can't give me a specific thing In the SE u want to see restructured, doesn't this tell u anything...

Think o

You still dont understand restructuring, we are not saying restructure anything for a specific region. We are saying restructure the federation so that state control their resources. They control their destiny. Restructuring does not mean all Igbos should go to SE, far from that. It means all Igbo state like every other states determine how they want to manage their resources

Coldie:
Until now u can't give me a specific thing In the SE u want to see restructured, doesn't this tell u anything...

Think o

When we were in regional govts, were we poor? Or you think there was allocation from the centre?

Coldie:
Nigeria is a blessing to us o, if u no know know now.

To me what's the use of saying u want whether restructuring or Biafra then u all relocate from the region to another?

If Igboland present SE was a country of it's on, considering it's present location, I assure u the SE will be very poor, take it from me. I am an avid reader and researcher.

Benin republic and Togo is larger than the SE land mass and has access to sea yet it's as poor as poverty, togolese are one of the poorest in the world.

Sierra Leone and Liberia almost same size with SE with sea access they are very POORRRRR, govt of Liberia is always begging Nigeria for aid.

Not to talk of Niger republic that's like times 10 of Biafra, look how they suffer...

LoL... Make short sighted thinking no go make I'ma make big mistake o

It's very hard to restructure through the national assembly! The North do not want restructuring and they have more lawmakers so by voting its already dead on arrival. Secondly, restructuring will affect the earnings of those fraudulent lawmakers so there is no motivation to do it. Think beyond the surface Mr man

drlateef:
Some people just like to fight with their keyboard. Look for where your Rep is and order him to go to the National Assembly and pass bills to restructure Nigeria. What’s hard in that? Why do we just argue aimlessly? Use your Rep and Senator to make the change you want.

Because the poor ones are acting as deadweight to the strong ones. We are not even talking of leaving, we are talking of restructuring to what we have in the US, Canada, UK etc. Do you think all province in canada or USA are equally rich? How many US states are as rich as California and New York? Will they now merge everything together because of states created by military fiat? Most of these states in Nigeria are illegitimate created by illegitimate govts. There were no referendum to create these states, the motivation was to get more allocation from the centre whether they contributed to the allocation or not. Is this a viable reason to create state by military dictators? Any state that cannot survive should be merged! Restructuring should also involve redrawing of some state bothers to include their nationalities in other states

Coldie:
So what's the relationship between what u said and restructuring?

Ask yourself the reason why the strong ones are always the ones leaving a union, no vulnerable, unstable and poor state will think of leaving the EU

Many state will be generating more revenue than the paltry allocation of today. You make it seems like if not Nigeria, the Igboland would have been poor. I really don't understand you! Nigeria does not generate money, the money is gotten from lands of the states.

Coldie:
U and I know that SE can't bank on agriculture neither can we bank on mineral resources.

Maybe technology but the others I am not sure

You think because the Igbos are hardworking and can survive anywhere means if a Ferrari is tied to a 911 trailer, the Ferrari can speed up? Do you know what deadweight means? When tied to people who have different aspirations from yours? Do not be overconfident, UK recently left EU because they considered EU becoming deadweight to them especially as they've been bailing some EU states and the constant sharing of refugees from middle east

Coldie:
This is a poverty mentality for u to say this really we as igbos have fallen.

A true igbo man before the fall can never say this and I believe this thinking has a lot to do with the civil war.

Me as an igbo man am hoping that Africa would decide it's destiny one day, we would be able to do away with colonial borders, I even sometimes muster the thought that Niger republic should join Nigeria

What do you mean Africa is Africa? Are we unique to failures? Do you know that indigenous Canadians do not make upto 10% of Canada, the rest are immigrants even if it means immigrating 100yrs ago. Bottom line is that the European colonised us for failures by joining different nationalities in a 'soup' of confusion while they partitioned themselves along ethnic nationalities. It's the overwhelming mix of nationalities that's impede Africa development. That's why we are saying that we should restructure to a loose federation so that different nationalities can pursue their aspirations in a common border!

Coldie:
You keep mentioning Canada Canada.

Africa is Africa, u can never change that o.

Africa is Africa that's why South Africa that was once a developed country with nuclear war heads are right now shouting foreigners are taking our job, yet Canada opened their borders for foreigners.

It's not cause of this or that just know Africa is and always will be Africa

Not really, they are viable because they believe they have the human resources to succeed.
Agriculture can sustain any people who have lands as a basic while technology, manufacturing, mineral resources etc will make them richer. But agriculture is sufficient in itself! We cannot continue to depend on Niger Delta oil, before oil we were prospering

Coldie:
Reason alot of European countries have an advantage with regards to federalism is that alot of EU country's states are now viable enough to sustain themselves, before they reached this level it took centuries U AND I KNOW THAT

Restructuring is taking us to federalism where the states control their resources and pay a percentage to run the federal govt who will be concerned with immigration, territorial integrity,
military, supreme court etc. We are not restructuring based on regions. This geopolitical region is a fraud as it has no govt or parliament. We are giving the states autonomy to succeed or fail if they choose to!

Coldie:
Having control over education, you and I know these lies are now sth of the past states have full control of most of the things u said up there.

We have state school and federal schools, do u think federal government controls state schools?

Same goes with your healthcare, has the FG stopped any state from setting up state of the art health care facilities?

Has the FG stopped any state from setting up emergency Management?

I won't lie to u, if quota system is removed you are opening the igbos to full time legal marginalization.

All in all, you didn't give me any point of what I asked you, u just gave me general view.

I ASK AGAIN, WHAT IN THE SE DO U WANT TO BE RESTRUTURED

Competition among states will be the biggest motivation for them to develop. It's happening in Canada, they dont have two heads. You talked about Hope Uzodinma abusing is power as governor to make laws tru the house to give him more power to abuse but part of restructuring is to fix the electoral process where misfits can't be governors or easily booted out through credible electoral process.

Coldie:
Mostly decided by northerners right. And u want it to remain so?

So in your thinking if Abuja is less attractive states will start developing?

U and I know this is a lie.

Alot of states are receiving much money and nothing has changed you think it will change over night?

If Abuja relinquishes some powers some states will become no go areas cause it will be plunged back to 1970, look at hope uzodinma who made IMHA pass a law that gives him the power to arrest anybody in the state for as long as he chooses, imagine if more powers are given to governor's like that?

I hardly hear about FG owing salaries but u and I know states owe salaries like mad, imagine where there's state police and some states start owing police men 10months salaries. U are setting up a time bomb cause all those police men will turn to full time armed robbers.

The list goes on.

Ur location says Abuja and am surprised u think like this, am currently at Abuja, do u like the economic situation of our people at Abuja?


Your kind of thinking is full blown cowardice, people like u would go to a place instead of fighting for your right, u would go and live under Miserable condition just to avoid competition.

If we as igbos have this thinking we have failed the next generation of igbos, when they look at list of Nigeria president when Nigeria is 100years and find out only Nnamdi Azikiwe was close to power, I guess people like u will be happy.

U would tell them we don't need president

So you left the developed countries of Canada,
USA , UK, Australia etc to be benchmarking with Ghana? This is what is called comparative tragedies. You comparing yourself with another failed state instead of comparing yourself with European countries or North American countries. Be ambitious!

Coldie:
What do u call what Ghana practices?

Nigerias system is even better than Ghana.

Almost all the decisions about Ghana and it's regions are made in accra