₦airaland Forum

gidgiddy:
Sorry bro but you are wrong for the following reasons

(1) Whoever wins the Presidency will always send the Python after IPOB. OBJ sent the armed forces after Uwazuruike and MASSOB, so did GEJ to a lesser extent. So wether Buhari or Atiku or anyone else wins, they will always regard IPOB as a threat and send Python. That's how it is with all freedom fighting organisations in less developed countries

(2) Even if IPOB decided to be political and won every elective position in the SE/SS, they will still have to go to the National Assembly of Nigeria to ask for a referendum against 4 other zones and they will be voted down. So what's the point?

(3) You may think that the radio station and sit at home is leading nowhere but it has shown both the local authorities and the international community the incredible support IPOB enjoys amongst the people. Why do you think the international community rejected the Nigerian governments tagging IPOB a terrorist group?

(4) Nigeria is not structured in a way to play regional politics and the so called regions are only so on paper. Dokubo was busy listing separatist groups Such as Sien Fein of Northern Ireland, SNP of Scotland and CDP of Catalonia who all vote and play politics of their respective regions while seeking separation. What Dokubo does not realise is that Northern Ireland, Scotland are Catalonia are actual semi-autonomous Regions with their Regional Government and parliament, it pays to play politics there. The SE/SS are not Regions and are not even recognised by the constitution of Nigeria.

(5) note: there is no government that will not do what Buhari did especially in the face of such direct provocation by NK and the setting up of BSS. An Obasanjo would have done worse). Constituted authority cannot be messed with except through force, and IPOB has no force

This is barbaric thinking. What exactly did they do? They set up a radio station and used unkind language? Did they force anyone to listen to them? They set up Biafra secret service? Where they armed? Did they touch anybody? So The problem is just the name?

Only a barbarian would support military force on group of people that are unarmed and non violent.


I totally support election boycott, voting has not helped anybody in Nigeria for the last 20 years. The only thing voting has done is bring people who go on a 4 year looting spree. It is time for our people to forget disasterous politics of Nigeria that is designed to throw up charlatans focus on agitation for a referendum. People's power will get us referendum. We should agitate harder, come out in our numbers and demand a referendum!


TOTAL BOYCOTT OF ELECTIONS IN THE SE/SS IN 2019!!

dokie:
Kindly state the steps that will lead to the restoration of Biafra starting from the election boycott going forward, and give examples where it has worked in the past.

I am yet to receive a response for the question I asked (quoted above). Or should I take it that there is no answer?

And some unfortunate beings will still say Atiku sold everything to his cronies.

GSA01:
Trader Moni is not for big traders. it is for petty traders like those that Hawk tomatoes, Pepper. Kola. there are so many people in this country looking for 1k to start up something. please, all fingers are not equal.

Those who hawk tomatoes that will have their goods confiscated by KAI ba? Because there is nobody who has a shop that can be helped by 10k.

Let's tell ourselves the truth, trader money is legal vote buying.

TBH, it's a good political strategy.

booscy:
Ibu Nnoo Ezigbo Onye Nzuzu. So you actually took time to write here just to show us how low your mentality is? Bazaar keeeee you Dia!

Daalu nwanne.

spongeisback:
I love Nigerians and their selective outrage.
If adeboye or oyedepo had said or done the same thing you will see them arguing about the "context" it was said.
Catholic priests have been raping kids and Nuns have been abusing kids. Where's the outrage?!
I see people saying this "mbaka's act have made me ashamed to be catholic" so it's extortion that made you ashamed to be a catholic not the decades of child abuse that has been swept under the carpet.

Kept it up religious folks!

God bless Nigeria.

A sin someone who represents a belief system commits against that belief system in secret is more of an indictment on the individual when he is caught. A sin such a one commits in public and sees nothing wrong with what he has done and he is not reprimanded for it by the body he represents is an indictment on the body he represents.

That priests have abused minors and have been involved in various forms of sexual misconduct strains the church but does not affect the integrity of the church.

If the dark secret actions of individual priests can affect the integrity of the Church, then the betrayal of Christ by one of his selected 12 should affect the integrity of Christ and his mission. But of course it doesn't.

I am not ashamed to be a catholic because priests are misbehaving (they are humans susceptible to weaknesses and wickedness, like Judas, and all Christians). But I will be ashamed if the church says there is nothing wrong with what they have done. Same with this Mbakas case.

Niceman4u:
u are absolutely correct and that is the reason I laugh at Nigerians especially the young ones whenever I see them hailing PDP or APC. There is no difference btw these two parties.
I can't fathom y they cant see beyond these two parties that have impoverished them
We have young, vibrant and articulate guys in Moghalu, Sowore, Oby and the others but we won't give them chance.
I think we deserve we get

Please don't think too much. Most Nigerians fall into the following categories : illiterates, impoverished, faith fanatics and tribalists.

These qualities removes authentic objectivity from our decision making regarding politics. Over 70% of the electorate only know of 2 candidates: Atiku and Buhari.

Even if 70% of objective Nigerians decide to vote one of the supposedly refined and better candidates, their votes will not ruffle the big guy who wins. For this reason, many objective people will queue behind the candidate of either PDP or APC that he/she is more comfortable with in a bid to reduce the votes of the other big player.

Until illiteracy and poverty is significantly reduced, we cannot have these parties win any election in this country.

I am voting Atiku not because I think he is a better candidate than Moghalu or FD, but because I know that there is no way on earth that they can win in the Nigeria of today. So I will give Still my vote hoping that it will help him win because I believe he is better for Nigeria than Buhari is. That's the same mindset an enlightened Buhari supporter will have as well.

Pruwa:
I just love Aisha Buhari.She says things as it is!!!Buhari no doubt has the vision but some cabals will not let the vision materialize.

No one can stop a man with a vision. Especially when you are the most powerful man in the country

Buhari has no agenda. If he does, but they are not allowing him to execute it, then they must be blackmailing him with something.

Racoon:
Ganduje the babanriga dollar bribe receiver crook? Chai! Anyway Buhari have already canonized him and Mbaka is Buhari's ally.So you should understand how the tide flows.

Meanwhile Fr.Mbaka is a complete shame & disgrace to the Catholic church.I disagreed with Rev.Fr.Onaga when he relocated him from GRA Enugu to Emene but now I see.Pls the church should derobe this man.

He can't be derobed for this.

The most they can do is to send him on a long retreat that could last about 3 years either in Rome or in a monastery.

But when you consider the huge funds adoration ministry contributes to Enugu Arch Diocese, and the fear of what becomes of Mbakas followers, Onaga may just look the other way.

Let's wait and see.

Sizuabanze:
. for those Criticising the Catholic priest act,
will you be honest enough to provide answers to the
following questions?

1, Are you Criticising the priest because the person
involve is your party VP candidate going into the next
election or because you view his action to be against
the teaching of God

2, Will you react same way if the priest has acted
same way to eg, Rochas okorocha or Tinubu or
Ngige or even president buhari?

3, What was your reaction when OYEDEPO BISHOP
KUKAR MINGLED WITH ATIKU, OBASANJO AND PDP
LEADERS?
What has been your reaction when OYEDEPO accused
president buhari of being cloned?

4, What was your reaction when pastor eneche
insulted PMB and called him a bastard.

This should also be the other way round. Those who
feel sympathy for fr mbaka because of the recent
critism should ans the following question.

1, Do you feel sympathy for him because it was not
your party mem he acted like that to or because even
though he is a man of God, as a human he is also
prone to mistakes?

2, How did you react when Pastor OYEDEPO and
bishop kukah was frolicking with Atiku, OBJ and pdp
leaders? did you condemn them like those
condemning mbaka is doing?

3, How did you react when Oyedepo accused PMB of
being a cloned president. Did you condemn him? If
you do, just like those condemning the priest, you are
a hypocrite.

We should be very careful not to attach bias towards
our judgement.
PEACE

Mbaka went against Christian teaching. The bible says: Nobody should give under compulsion for God loves a cheerful giver (2 Cor 9:7).

Mbaka tried to manipulate Peter Obi to give. That's highly unchristian. By doing that, he denigrated Christianity.

TroubleMaker47:
My brother! My brother!! My brother!!!
This wisdom God gave you shall never depart you and your children!
I weep bitterly whenever i hear igbos ipobs shout "election day= sit @ home day"
I begin to ask myself when did some of my brothers become this foolish!
To think they are following a man whose wife and kids are safe in far away UK,
who sneaked his father out of Nigeria,
escaped arrest while telling his brothers to defend him, In the cause of that, OVER 40 WHERE KILLED,
365days went without a word from the crook,
Thereby leaving his surety in dire case!
Then the fool returns online to mourn his dog Jack and 40 other people (nonentities)! Killed
IPOBS umunem please be wise!!

To the prayers I say Amen and I wish you the same.

The election boycott matter just makes me dislike ipob. Its plain senseless.

Kahujadekadura:
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Thank god u are still imaging.... Experience is d best teacher and from my experience Vote don't count and no man will win election that we claim that it was d help of IPOB voted.
I strongly believe in boycott.

Nsogbu adiro

Continue believing.

gidgiddy:
Sorry bro but you are wrong for the following reasons

(1) Whoever wins the Presidency will always send the Python after IPOB. OBJ sent the armed forces after Uwazuruike and MASSOB, so did GEJ to a lesser extent. So wether Buhari or Atiku or anyone else wins, they will always regard IPOB as a threat and send Python. That's how it is with all freedom fighting organisations in less developed countries

(2) Even if IPOB decided to be political and won every elective position in the SE/SS, they will still have to go to the National Assembly of Nigeria to ask for a referendum against 4 other zones and they will be voted down. So what's the point?

(3) You may think that the radio station and sit at home is leading nowhere but it has shown both the local authorities and the international community the incredible support IPOB enjoys amongst the people. Why do you think the international community rejected the Nigerian governments tagging IPOB a terrorist group?

(4) Nigeria is not structured in a way to play regional politics and the so called regions are only so on paper. Dokubo was busy listing separatist groups Such as Sien Fein of Northern Ireland, SNP of Scotland and CDP of Catalonia who all vote and play politics of their respective regions while seeking separation. What Dokubo does not realise is that Northern Ireland, Scotland are Catalonia are actual semi-autonomous Regions with their Regional Government and parliament, it pays to play politics there. The SE/SS are not Regions and are not even recognised by the constitution of Nigeria.

(5) note: there is no government that will not do what Buhari did especially in the face of such direct provocation by NK and the setting up of BSS. An Obasanjo would have done worse). Constituted authority cannot be messed with except through force, and IPOB has no force

This is barbaric thinking. What exactly did they do? They set up a radio station and used unkind language? Did they force anyone to listen to them? They set up Biafra secret service? Where they armed? Did they touch anybody? So The problem is just the name?

Only a barbarian would support military force on group of people that are unarmed and non violent.


I totally support election boycott, voting has not helped anybody in Nigeria for the last 20 years. The only thing voting has done is bring people who go on a 4 year looting spree. It is time for our people to forget disasterous politics of Nigeria that is designed to throw up charlatans focus on agitation for a referendum. People's power will get us referendum. We should agitate harder, come out in our numbers and demand a referendum!


TOTAL BOYCOTT OF ELECTIONS IN THE SE/SS IN 2019!!

Kindly state the steps that will lead to the restoration of Biafra starting from the election boycott going forward, and give examples where it has worked in the past.

chiagozien:
no reasonable biafran will vote come 2019,
who should we vote for,Atiku or buhari?
Tell me the different between both.


Come to think of it,what if after voting the same buhari you are fighting to remove win,you will come here to shout biafra.


Between buhari and atiku none is good for us,freedom remain the best.

And you think you will get freedom by simply shouting give me freedom? Keep deceiving yourselves. Wait till Buhari wins a second term, you will see nke toro Beatty.
Phyton dance will be like child's play, and note, no nation , no Israel is coming to help you, even if Buhari kills 1million biafrans. How many Shiites have been killed in broad day light? What has happened? Is Buhari not still meeting world leaders up and down the whole world? Did anybody arrest him?

Change can only come from within, it can never come from the outside. As powerful as Jesus Christ is, his only way to stop the deadly persecution of Christians in the early days was to convert the Roman Emperor Constantine to christianity. So from the political system of that time, Christianity became accepted and persecution stopped.

Having radio shows where you abuse people, demonstrations and 'Sit @ Homes' will lead no where. If IPOB is not interested in national politics, they should at least be interested in regional politics. Take over the south east politically, what is bad in that? Then fight the battle from there.

Imagine if all the Governors, senators and house of reps from the South East were ipob members, do you not think the mission would make more sense and promise land closer, or is ipob afraid that if its members taste power, they will forget the struggle?

How can someone galvanize such force and want to waste it by saying he doesn't want to be part of the politics of the nation, when in fact his lack of participation is an indirect way of participating to his own detriment?

Nnamdi KANU is either plain stupid or an agent the Fulani is using to see to it that a large chunk of Igbo youths get killed by government forces. (And note: there is no government that will not do what Buhari did especially in the face of such direct provocation by NK and the setting up of BSS. An Obasanjo would have done worse). Constituted authority cannot be messed with except through force, and IPOB has no force, all na mouth.

Continue following him like a fool, till Python swallow you.

Note, NK is in a safe haven. Its you and other sheepish followers that would be used as shooting range practice by the Army.

Ndi nzuzu.

blackfase:
Don't mind d buffoons. They'd bliv anything they read on d net. This is too preposterous even from a backwater church priest. This particular tabloid is famous for criminal propaganga. Its stinks of mischief to hades. Only d discerning will know....

*Modified- Actually saw an audioless video where hes purported to have made the comments, well if its true, wonders they say will never cease especially in some zoo called nanjiriya...

I'm sure you've seen the videos.

Mbaka did wrong.

Adekdammy:
where do we classify this donation?
bribery
conscience buying
tradermoni/pastoralmoni
job well done money

Help me ask mbaka o.

Mbaka just shot himself on the head.

Buhari will disgrace him, and Atiku will never go there.

He complained that the Catholic Church sent him to a bush after what he said in 2015, he should start getting prepared to go ti Rome for a retreat. I don't see the Catholic Bishops Conference allowing this one to go.

Mbaka is on his way to Rome.

Mbaka shit for church.

I couldn't even watch the video to the end. Its madness.

Imagine mbaka asking ganduje if Buhari couldn't take up the permanent site project as an fg project? As what? As what? Under what ministry's budget will it be captured? Has he gone mad!

Peter Obi showed himself to be a true christian, and a man with a strong character.

Mbaka is the one who should bury his head in shame, if he understands what a shameful act is.

nifty60:
The writer has a motive of tanishing Mbaka's image. Let say Mbaka have these intentions. He will not be this raw in his speech, he will be very logical. He is way too intelligent for this careless speech.

I don't think the writer is wrong o. I've seen an 11m clip. Seems its true. I am just unable to upload it here. Its from a WhatsApp group chat.

AdeniyiA:
Pls quote me when you see it. I can't believe wat i read on d net these days and i refuse to speak on wat i haven't confirmed myself or speak against a man of God(true or not)

I've seen a clip on a WhatsApp group chat where he was practically telling peter Obi to announce to the parishioners the project he and Atiku will carry out in the adoration ground, if not they will fail.

This one is too much for me o.

izzou:
Biafra has their logo, currency, and blue prints. They already divided it into provinces already. And what's the rocket science in establishing diplomatic ties? With an influential figure as a foreign minister, it wouldn't be difficult

Let the government just conduct a referendum.

Or won't the 5 geo political zones survive if the south east leaves?

Abi o

All mbaka sermons are on video.

Until I see the video of this bizarre speech, I refuse to believe.

What option do they have? Support Buhari and believe Buhari will make one of them president in 2023? They must be crazy.

Even if APC choses not to give it to SW, what happens to Amaechi who has been with APC since inception, and funding it massively? Or they think Amaechis ambition is to die a minister? What of Ngige, Okorocha and Obiano? Will they all not be past governors at the time, but at the present full blown supporters of PMB?

They have no political future in APC its as simple as that.

If they don't want to support Atiku, its their prerogative, but any attempt to support pmb will be the end of their political careers.

Look at what Saraki, Tambuwal, Kwankwaso and even Atiku are all going through at the moment because they supported Buhari.

They can try sha.

mrvitalis:
That means it's bigger Than camp nue

Its not impossible.

OreMI22:
Buhari should continue giving Boko Haram millions of dollars in ransom and not equipping our troops.

One day, there will be no solder left to protect his evil regime and Boko Haram will sack him from Aso rock villa

He would have xcaped with his FAM.

iammo:
At least they are not drug dealers, cheap prostitutes in a ghetto brothel or Evans the kidnapper... Dunderhead

His do you know they are the ones in the brothel? Or should we take it that you are their customer da da

Racoon:
This should be no issue but it's the APC that foolishly turned it an issue.

Exactly.

Well good for Nigeria.

Good one.

Ordinarily this shouldn't be an achievement if not that APC made an issue out of it.

Now it has backfired.

I wish Nigeria the best in 2019.

gurunlocker:
I read this post and I can't do anything but laugh

Someone can be this daft

See how you are contradicting yourself

Are you talking about "pig trump" that want to sell arm to this government to aid fight against insurgency?

These ApC supporters onNL are brain dead I tell you.

buhariguy:
Nigeria is the giant of Africa and the police of Africa as US is the police of the world.
So Malawi is too small to cough

Giant what?

Scum you mean, and no thanks to Buhari.

TVC is a joke.

Hot can they carry this as news?

Originakalokalo:
If the Following can be Proven, then atheists Should Be worried About their Belief.

Existence of powers like juju, blood money, fortifications against bullets,

disappearing from one location to another and other activities that transcends physical abilities.

Let me share some Examples of Cases that defile physical laws..As an eye witness.

1. someone being flogged in the dream and there are marks all over the body when the person wakes up...This is more than just a dream and I have seen this one firsthand....she was my girlfriend back in school.

2. . Someone was shot in the dream after he got promoted in the office....six months after the dream, he could not go to his office

...and when "special prayers" and baths were done for him, some local bullets dropped off his body....( I have seen this too, firsthand.)

3. This one is funny. An aboki was fighting a man from Ogun state on the ist of January of a particular year..

.It involved a family friend and I was in the house at the time...

The aboki took an iron rod to hit my friend's uncle ...he moved back and entered his car, slipped a ring on his finger, and tap the aboki on the head .. .

Then the aboki fell down flat...he stood up and fell again...this time, he was shaking violently on the floor...

People ran away.....this uncle then approached the aboki and tap his slightly on the chest....the guy stood up, got his balance...

and left. It almost degenerated into a street fight.

If these activities can be proven, then they supports the existence of another realm that is unseen....which can influence the physical world.

That realm is spiritual.... and there must be laws to enforce order in that realm...else there will be chaos and things will Fall apart

Now, if there is order in the spiritual world, it must be put inplace and enforced by a ruler who has ultimate power(God) ...

else, a spirit may just decide to destroy a whole country in seconds..

The ground may be poisoned and all the produce becomes poison....and everyone dies..


Take a look at the physical world.... Laws of matter, gravity, light etc ensure sustainability....

These laws keep everything in cycle and ensures continuity.... Else, a creator will have to be creating every second...

The moment these laws cease to exist, there will be trouble. Engineers produce engines to work in cycles...

to an extent for continuity.

The creator of the heavens and earth is not stupid...

Laws of rotation and revolution brings day and night and seasons and weather. He doesn't have to declare them into existence every time these phenomena are needed.

In conclusion,

If there are powers that suggest the existence of a realm outside the physical,

There is God....

Why are you wasting your time trying to convince Atheists?.

The bible says that it is only a fool that says there is no God. A fool is someone totally devoid of wisdom. The person can have knowledge sufficient to make him the greatest scientist, but lacks common sense, so remains a fool.

Dismember a wrist watch and put all the parts in a handy box. Pick up the box and start shaking it from now till forever, it can never form the wrist watch it was.

Yet someone will say the whole of existence is accidental.

No be last Ode be DAT kin person.

Don't waste your time abeg.