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Sorry,

this is not for you because you can only live the Christian life through the  Spirit.

The carnally minded cannot live that life.

Nonsense! , makes no spritual sense.

TB Josuah speaks here:

http://www.newswatchngr.com/editorial/allaccess/bob/11108124235.htm

I just went through the angry comments of those sho were caught in the traffic. There were some opinions that were quite objective. Among other opinions which i agree with, i just copied that of a certain FRSC oficial:

JULIUS OZALO Unit Co-ordinator, FRSC

The cause of the hold-up is impatience and indiscipline on the part of the motorists. Those going out of Lagos left their lane to follow the other lane. They are just impatient. That is why the hold-up has lasted this long. The road network is equally not okay, the road is narrow. The government should do something about it. We can only thank God that there has been no casualty

click here for News article:

http://odili.net/news/source/2006/apr/16/18.html

larger_20,

I feel u,

but u see, a christian isn't someone who just repented.

To repent means to change your way of thinking.

A charistian is a lot more than that. He is actually a partaker of the

divine nature. He is a possesor of eternal life and of heaven and earth.

When you fully understand this, you will see your christian life as an

active vibrant adventure in faith.

When you are involved world evangelism, there is a freshness you will

constantly experience each time you see souls turn to the Lord.

God will continually refresh you through His Spirit and promote you with

His gifts and with his presence.

Each time you cast out devils as you pronounce that name of

Jesus' you are exited; each time the sick are healed through you, you

are exited.

Never let these things become common to you. For many seek to see

these things that you see and have not seen them.

Never get used to God for there is always something new with God,

always another level to get to in Him.

I wish i gave my heart to Christ a lot earlier in life 'cos by now i would

have known God's Word a lot more.

I might have had several visitations of Jesus as He appears in my

room, talking with me face to face.

I might have had several visons and revelations of heaven, and even

translations into the hevenlies.

Arise and shine for your light is come and the glory of God is risen upon you!

Praise the Lord!

Some people think it is the Spiritually immanture that walk in the freedom of christ. But that is not the case.

The spiritual man knows that in christ nether circumcision or uncircumcision means anything, headties or no headties, earings or no earings; but faith which works by love.

But i know there are some who are weak in faith and the mere sight of a girl i trousers will cause them to sin.  There are also those who never feel the prsence of the Spirit if their hair is uncovered. My advice to you in the name of God is REMAIN THERE O! -in deper life or Assemblies of God (or where ever) so that you do not come into condemnaton for whatsoever is not of faith is sin. Stay there and be taught God's Word until you become mature enough able to handle the Word of truth in the liberty of Christ.

I will never forget my experience with one of the leaders of a deeper life church in Calabar. By mere contact with Him, i could experience the love of Christ and the joy of the Holy ghost which he so lavishly expressed. The man coming out of his car was bubbling with life, smiling and responding to every greeting with a happy God bless you, stopping to chat and leave a word of exhortaiton from time to time with those he met on his way to his office as i followed him.

He was a lecturer and I came to meet him to borrow a projector which my group in church needed for evangelism. I felt as though i was with a member of Christ Embassy.

He attended to me so warmly even though i think i was dressed in a T-shirt, combats and boots, and of course, i told him i was from Christ Embassy.

We later drove out to his church where we saw some bretheren  in the premises who looked at me as though i was just comming from a pub with a bottle of gin in my hands.

I remember attempting to say hi to a sister who looked rather sad, down and out (as was the normal look for a 'holy' woman) as we climbed unto the front of a block of offices; oh the way she ignored me, shrinking away as though she was saying: may i never be seen in any way with with you.

Well, at the end i was told that the projector was in use and boy! , was i glad to be out of the premises.

That explained the difference between the babe and the Spiritually mature.

And do I not have a right to defend whoever and whatsoever i please?

I think, we all should be more corteous when trying to make complaints or air our views because its one thing to lay complaints its another to try to castigate one's character.

I myself was caught up in the traffic as well. And my heart really went out in pity to those whom i saw stuck in the traffic for so long. I wished we could, if there was a way, repay them for the loss they might have endured but Saying: Pastor Chris caused untold suffering for Nigerians during that period totally contradicts the purpose of that event or of Pastor Chris' ministry as a person.

Those who came for the program were Nigerians, people like u and i who necessarily weren't members of Christ Embassy.

Did you expect me to support you and your message that all that was achieved for the program was suffering for Nigerians?

That is because the conscience of carnal christains as well as their atheist counterparts will not let them rest.

I believe God is both male and female.

Man was first made that way(possesing male and female xristics) until God seperated the female characteristics form him in forming eve.

That is why God can weep and nuture and all of a sudden appear as a man of war.

Are you asking me?

We are exited about Jesus and his presence in our midst.

We know how to celebrate the Lord for his wondrous works in our lives.

We do not want to ever take his acts as common.

You have not seen anything yet,  we will make so much noice about his miracles and his goodness that satan will  weep in agony for his defeat.

Gloryyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Halleluyaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

selah,

I see that some people do not need the Holy Spirit to be Holy. They are naturally Holy. They do not even need Jesus to die for sin, they can live right by themselves. They are already too holy for the blood or the Spirit.

Well, i believe in the God that justifies the ungodly,

and i also believe the scripture tha says:

i will put my Spirit within you and cause you to walk in my stautes, and you shall keep my judgements and do them.

For it is God who worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure

I praise God for his miracles in our lives!

Hey brothers, i got some secret to share,

When u feel the pressure , as f all is falling apart, just put ur hands in your pocket, lift your head up and sing this song:

Aman halleluyah, Amen Halleluyah Amen

and watch the adversary bow and the mountains crumble b4 u

papa,

u can check this link 4 my testimony
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-8093.96.html

nubian:
- True talk. - i was going for an occasion in inadan.Me ,wife, 3 year old son ,mother in law ans sister in law SLEPT - i reapeat SLEPT in our car.We left lagos by 5 pm and got to ibadan by 4pm the next day!!!!!! - i was terrible punishment

And some one arrogantly tells me off when i complain about it.

Is that the way you would complain if RCCG organised the program. Will you use that tone and langguage for your pastor? If you would, i am sorry to say that we have more respect for sacred things and for God's annointed than that.

nubian:
Many other churches hold crusades along that expressway - they don't make innocent travellares spend the night on the roead.

All i said was christ embassy should learn about crowd control from other churches that use that expressway.I attend redemmed conventions and know the redemed church has gotten its act together as regards traffic control.

You should have simply told us to consult your church, RCCG for coaching, that would have been more understandable.

nubian:
Some stranded people where so incensed they were suggesting Stroming the convention and giving pastor chris a good beating for making them spend the night in their cars- that may be going too far, but tempers where really high.All i expect the christ embassy ambassadors here to do is apologise and accept that this was their churches first convention along that road and they need to organise better traffic control. NOT TO TELL ME TO GE TO HELL, !!!!!.Or suggest that all stranded people should simply have joined their crusade!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.

Those stranded people who were cursing and insulting the church and the man of God includes you, i guess. Funny , Why did they not come to beat him up, that is if they will get past the police station we had on ground or the crowd of millions of worshippers without being apprehended or mobbed.

nubian:
Pastor Adeboye of my church was treatened by the govT, years back , that his conventions will be banned if he always makes traffic a nightmare for others( the church was officialy petitioned to the fedral govt).He got his act together , and that is my church

PS - there where no broken down trailers - none at all - just cars of worshippers parked in such a way that they reduced the expressway to half of one lane.
That road is one of the busiest in Nigeria!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I am not telling you what i was told but what i saw. All the cars were at at stand still so you wouldnt notice even if there were broken down traillers.

I saw two of them abbandoned in the middle of the road (in the direction of lagos) on saturday afternoon as cars  struggled to get past them on either side.

Trucks were abandoned on the roads, travelers were leaving Lagos in large numbers and you can only see Christ Embassy to blame for the traffic jam.

When reinhard Bonkke or Benny Hinn holds programs, all the pastors in Nigeria come together to make it a success. But pastor Chris calls for a program, that is when they remember that there is a day called good friday on which they too can hold their own programs.

Well the results will tell if God sent who.
God knows those whom he has called and actually sent.

If they will only pay more attention to God's prophetic move in this day and hour, things will be better for us. The police would be more prepared and ready.

We are a force that cannot be ignored in this country and around the world. It is not our making but God's.

Haleluyaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!
Gloryyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!

O boy! Its been a weekend of Power!

We thought we had seen most of it when Pastor Chris on friday night announced the beggining of the crusade against wickedness in our nation; calling the entire nation (as he addressed the mammoth crowd in attendance) to repentance. Insisting that we have to begin that change within ourselves so as to affect the entire nation.

He condemned, bribery, robbery, corrution, selfishness, immorality, greed etc stating that these vices find their roots in wickedness which he said God will visit with his judgement upon the nation if there is not change.

After the crowd present confessed their sin on behalf of themselves and our nation Nigeria, asking for forgiveness, the miracles began to happen. The blind saw, the deaf heard, wheel chars wer lifted up as those bound to them were set free by the power of God.

It was a glorious night as the power of God settled upon the people. O! was i blessed!

At the CRC that followed on sunday, the presence of Jesus was so tangible in the place where we were. We were all drunk with the Spirit as the Word came forth from the man of God.

I witnesses as those with one deaf ear were asked to stand on their feet wherever they were around the arena. As the man of God prayed, their ears were opened up instantly with some falling down under the power. What a glorious sight it was.

Some who called their sick friends and relatives at the time of prayer were amazed as their loved ones recieved their miracles wherever in the world they were at the time. Telephone miracles , hahaha Gloryyyyy!!

As if that was not enough, we all witnesses as the man of God stilled a storm which was threatening the venue where we were. We were asked to lift our hands towards a particular direction, almost immediately, the storm seized.

Oh what a mighty Jesus we serve! He is alive and is in our midst at Christ Embassy.

Gloryyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Can somebody shout halleluyaaaaahhhh!!!!!!!!!!!


****Endeavour to get the Good friday miracle night tapes. There is a message there for every Nigerian.

Olex,

To answer your question, let me remind you of the words of scripture that says, 'when sin abounds, grace did much more abound.'

It is because of the sin in prevalent in our nation, that God has raised ministries and apostles to combat the evil.

I cannot bear to imagine what this nation would be like without these 'sent ministries'.

For instance, in most of our outreach meetings, we have criminals who surrender their guns and weapons at the alter.

Some have become preachers today.

Bolex,

Yes, a non- christain is as sinner, no matter how good and kind he may seem. Because sin is more than an action. It is a nature, the nature of satan. This nature can only be replaced by faith in the work of christ on the cross for us all.

nubian:
Chrisat embassy had a miracle night along the lagos - ibadan expressway

it was the first time christ embassy was doing a convention/programme along the expreesway

many new generation churches now hold programmes on their camp grounds along the higyway - following the example of the redemmed church of God, and hoping for the kind of succes the redemmed church has at its high way camp ground.

Are you calling Christ Embassy one of those 'new genenration churches?' If so, you are very mistaken.

nubian:
pastor chris caused untold suffering with his easter miracle night

his church caused a terrible traffic jam along a major traffic road - on a public holiday weekend when lots of people where travellinb

The program i believe, pulled the kind of crowd that road had never seen before for any program on a single day. Before the program, over 2.6 million people had signed up for their seat reservations; so you should know what kind of crowd we are talkin about here.

Besides, the Christ Embassy program was not entirely responsible for that traffic Jam because there were broken down trailers that blocked the roads, esp. the one leading towards lagos.

nubian:
pastor chris needs a lesson in traffic control - he should ask the other churches how the handle and control traffic, he also needs a parking ground and more than just one entrance

Can you imagine? Not only are you speakin about a respectable man of God in a manner that is insulting, you are simply displaying ignorance of clear facts: First being that Our ministry holds the largest programs around this country and as such should be a reference point for traffic control xpertise. 

Secondly, i should inform you that we had truck loads of police and traffic wardens deployed to the venue in addition to the several hundreds of traffic control workers our ministry trained for the program. We have enough parking ground and more than one entrance thank you.

Inasmuch as we regret the inconveniences the program caused travelers, you cannot hold Pastor Chris responsible for the traffic jam?  Afterall, he did not force the people to come out to meet him at the express? Were there not several other 'good friday miracle night' programs in Lagos? You should  understand that like in any country around the world, it is not our responsibility to take care of traffic but that of the police. So if you want to blame anyone, blame the Police.

That night will for ever be remembered for the Powerful Word that came forth for our Nation Nigeria; and for the mighty miracles, healings and salvation witnessed by many who attended.

Lord i thank you for your grace that was so lavishly poured out upon us during the program and also for the 500acre piece of land you have given to us to the amazement of many and the envy of some!

God bless you too Dr. Mike.

Yesterday evening in church, while wathcing AFM via projector, the atmosphere in church where i was so electrified .

We watched as he asked for a lady to be brought up who was lying on a stretcher. he led the congregation in singing the song,

in the name of Jesus send the light,

Boy! the power that was released as we watched athe power of God demonstrated; the lady rose up from the stretcher and began exercising her body. Boy, it was a glorious sight!

I can't wait for tommorow to be in that wonderful presence once more at the good friday miracle night.

Olex,

I realy feel for you because u do not seem to understand the doctrine of righteousness.

It is not just a theory for many all over the world are becoming strong through the righteousness of God.

Righteousness is an ability. It is the nature of God that is imparted to our spirits giving us the ability to stand before God without guilt inferiority or condemnation. It gives us the ability to live right.

If you do not have this righteousness of God (not self), all you will experience is a life of strugggle, fear, weekness  and defeat. You will be a slave of sin.

So first and foremost, understand who you are and how you came about the righteousness you have for it was not of your works but it was the free gift of God. Understanding this will put satan permanently under your feet.

When you know who you are, you will act that way.

The reason many preachers are confused about this sort of teaching is that they do not understand the doctrine of righteousness. They say such teaching will cause God's children to sin. That is not true for this message brings men out of the slave metality, where they can know God for themselves; walking according to the Spirit and not according to 'some man-made commandment'. For the bible says, 'walk in the Spirit and you shall not fulfil the works of the flesh.'

All they should do is preach the true gospel of liberty and allow the Holy Spirit to do His job of perfecting His church.

This makes all God's children equal before the father. There is no room for boasting.

We who are God's kids have the same righteousness as Jesus has, praise God!!

Heaven is for all, true.

All those that do the will of the father, true.

And what is the will of the father[i], believe in the one whom he hath sent, Jesus.[/i]

Those who claim to be christains and yet say thet there are other ways to the kingdom do not know what it is to be a christian. I dare say, they have not known Jesus. I am saying this as a matter of fact. They might have heard of Him, but they do not know him.

Because to be a christian means you have been born fron death, and have been translated in to the Kingdom of God. It is not a religion. You actually recieve eternal life (the divine nature of almighty God) which was with the father and which was manifested in the son; without which you remain in bondage to sin and death.

Jesus is the very LIFE. For he said, 'I am the life'

He that believeth not is condemned already,

He that hath not the son hath not life,

Believe in the sacrifice that God made of His son to redeem the world, and live!

When the sons of God gathered, satan came in the midst of them. Occultists always take advantage of the voiced ignorance of carnal christians to condemn what they do not understand.

Inasmuch as I have seen some well writen and resonable opinions like that of wellborn on this thread, I will not glorify the opinion of the first post by responding.

Multioptior,

It is good you have expressed that opinion of urs here. At least it can be dealt with openly.

Point of Correction: 'everything goes' is the wrongest phrase to use in describing Christ Embassy. Where the Word and the Spirit are exhalted above any other thing.

In Christembassy, we put absolute faith and trust in God's Word and the Holy Spirit to build a man. We do not think it is our responsibility but the Holy Spirit's to shapen a man's character and present Him Holy and unblamable before God.

Inasmuch as people are brought in to the true liberty of christ, there is a prevailing atmosphere of Love and the fear of the Lord which the Holy spirit pours in our congregation.

That is why anyone looking at us from afar will wonder how we exercise order in the House of God; It is by the Spirit.

Let me talk about myself, I first went to church in jeans, a jacket and an earing in my ear and a cap on my head. As far as I was concerned, i needed God  and i came to him just as i was.

Not long after i joined church, certain changes could be noticed in my appearance.  I began to dress for the job,  Clean and Presentable as the reality of my being an ambassador of the highest order finally dawned on me. No one ever talked to me about my dressing then. I was only led of the spirit. This sholud not then cause me to begin to teach that a christian should not wear this or that.

Like Jesus, our hands are opened and our gates ajar to welcome all who are weak, sin-sick and weary. We teach them until Christ is formed in them. We make them become what they never thought they could become.

[i]Just for the records, [/i]We do not get sexually aroused in church at Christ Embassy. That is not possible because of the presence of the Spirit that is so tangible. Or did you have any such experience attending church at Christ Embassy or while wathcing  on TV? That will have to be dealt with as a personal problem.

You do not need to come to church to lust. It is an inside thing ok?  If you do not deal with it, you will still use your imagination to lust even if  women dressed like lagbaja.


I think our congregation looks just like the one Jeus had. Not a set of people who have been made to look in a certain way by a man.

To give a man a set of rules will not cure him of the problem he has within him. The work must begin from inside first.

That way, when God does the building through his Word and his Spirit, u will never settle for less; whether you have bretheren around watching you or not.

In our congregation, just like Jesus', the rich, dignitries, the poor, beggers, harlots, drunkards, young and old, all come to drink of that same Holy spirit.

In my own opinion though, i sincerely think we are the best dressed congregation around.

Did you follow the story of the guy who was recently released after his being sentenced to death for converting form Islam to Christianity? It has been on CNN.

These items were a store of value for them. These were their assets.

Its 10% of all your increase according to the bible; material substance or money.

Kola ,

you're a funny chap

Nice to have,

i enjoyed reading your contribution.

A man's life does not consist in the abundance of the things he possoses,  The Holy spirit is more than enough, He's all a man could ever need. He is the spirit of faith and love,  He brought us the kingdom. 'Blessed is He who is not offended at my teachings'.

Mrlawng,

Thank you and God bless.

Trust in the Lord,

, in Him only shalt thou trust,

, Then Shall they know that ye are my disciples; because ye love the bretheren.

, this is my song to you.