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[quote author=sawyerrola post=54762177]Good day all, I just thought it nice to share my bitter and sweet experience with a coutonou Car Dealer from Nairaland here.
I’ll just do a date sequence and activity write-up. may not be extremely detailed, but will put details where i can. Its long o!!!!! my apologies. Read if you can.

Summary: Godspower Autos bit more than he could chew, so it choked him! but we resolved finally.
Lessons: Personally, I won’t trust strangers anymore (that’s personal, please trust them if you can). Then, when you know you’ve been scammed from a Nairaland bad guy, first things first, don’t come and shout in panic on Nairaland, people can only run, but they can’t hide! Do the needful and you will get results.

Feb 19th 2017: while going through nairaland as usual, saw this link https://www.nairaland.com/2112183/buy-cars-cotonu-cheap-rate
Called Mr Godspower on 08164586580. Told him I want a 2012 Camry, clean title, full legit duty and all I usually would mention. He mentioned will cost N5.3m. after all the long talks we pegged at 5.2m


Feb 20th 2017: Mr Godspower says he will want to take his Mechanic along to Cotonou. So I transferred N7000 for transport.

Same day he came with 3 options and pictures. All looked good but my vin check revealed accidented. So I selected one of the 3 which accident was bearable. I even send him pictures of the accident of this one I selected. But I asked him if the two airbags I see deployed have been fixed? He said yes confirmed. I asked him if he did a test drive, he swore yes, he said his mechanic dis a scan and found all okay. And everything is intact. I told him its only history I can know by VIN so I am relying on his judgment for the real physical test. Godposwer almost swore that the vehicle was used by Angels. And he even says for the next 5 years I wont fix a pin.

Transferred N1m to Godspower. And told him to make sure that the vehicle is really sound, since he is sure now I want to buy. And if for any reason vehicle is not okay, please don’t buy.

Feb 21st 2017: transferred N4.235m to Godspower (Total Transferred N5.235m). this is N5.2m for vehicle and 35k for registration.
He mentions vehicle has been bought today and clearing in progress. So vehicle would be in Lagos on thursday (it was a Tuesday today).

Feb 22nd 2017: he updates all is well and going according to plan.

Feb 23rd 2017: he updates the president of seme is doing something at the border and so border is shut. vehicle cant come in till Friday. Meanwhile I got autoreg sms confirming vehicle has now been registered.

Feb 24th 2017: he updates that he is sure the border will be open so vehicle must come in today Friday and I should not worry, they will deliver to me in ph on Saturday.
At night I called to ask, and he said yes vehicle had entered, soi said I wanted my inlaw to come pick up the car so he can deliver to me, Godspower almost slapped me for that suggestion! And he says his driver will deliver. But when I insisted, he now says I can send my inlaw to badagry by that 10pm at night. Since he knew it was impossible, he said his driver will leave early the next day to ph.


Feb 25th 2017: THE LONGEST DAY EVER!!!!!
I called 6 am, he says he is on his way to his driver (let’s call the Driver Kazeem). I called again by 7am, Godspower says Kazeem is bathing. And i should please not be calling like that.
8am I called again and Godspower says Kazeem is just leaving for Ph. That Kazeem is a PILOT and I should not worry. So I asked for kazeems number.
9am I called to say I haven’t received Kazeems number yet. Godspower sends me after 30mins a number he said is Kazeems number. So I call Kazeem and fone is off and I told Godspower.
By 10am I call Kazeem again and Kazeem picks and says he is approaching Ijebu ode and in the most rude manner on earth told me I should not call him that he will call me as he doesn’t like taking call when driving. And that he doesn’t like the way I call.
Up till 2pm no call from Kazeem, so I thought I should call as he may be getting close by so I can prepare to receive him. And then I call and he didn’t pick after 3 tries, and then he picks finally by 2:15pm and says he is at pre, that the car had a problem with the fan and they are looking for the fan to buy. That he will call when they finish. So I called Godspower and he refused to pick too for like 20 times (seriously 20 times), then he switches off his phone. And I sent an sms to know when he comes back on. And when he did abot 40mins later, I called again. And then I got the insult of my life. he started asking if its because of this my ordinary car he won’t rest. I asked if he knew about the fan issue, he says shey I have called Kazeem and wht do I want him to do. But I reminded him of his 5 year guarantee and i laughed. And I told him something is not right and I know it, but he should say the truth now that I am willing to listen otherwise after now I won’t listen again.
He got provoked and cursed the hell out of me and hung up.
5pm I call kazeem and then he says they are just about completing the fan repair and they would still come to ph.
EVEN ME IM TIRED OF THE LONG STORY AT THIS POINT!

It's not new.
I'm a dealer myself and this is a common practice among us and I'm so happy you handled it the way you did BUT I'm not happy with the fact that you released Godspower the next day. He was supposed to be there for at least 3 more nights.
This is the best practise as far as my operations are concerned. VIN number will first be sent after the customer must have approved the picked car. If it has a clean history, we make final payment and next is Customs Duty. Here, dealers get smart and greedy. We're not satisfied with the service fee and want to hit the dangerous big money by bypassing this MOST IMPORTANT stage. The VIN alone would do the magic for the customer as you only need to go online and get the Customs SystemRoom's number and the rest is history(after he must have informed you of completion of Duty process)
Don't give a go-ahead for the car to be brought if you've not cleared this aspect.
Dealers selling in Lagos are known to be more involved in this game than those bringing in because unsuspecting customers feel more relaxed with them knowing they're already in Nigeria and thus, their papers should be intact but reverse is the case most times.
The police is always eager to take up these cases cos they know they stand to gain some change so it should be the next step if anyone finds him or herself in this situation.
GREED IS A CANCER. Have you had yourself checked today ?




Feb 26th 2017: 8am out of the blues someone calls me and says he is the driver bringing my car from Lagos and he is in just arriving warri on his way to me (let’s call this new driver ADEWALE).
9am Adewale calls again he is now in Bayelsa
10am Adewale says he is now in choba. So I told him to meet me he said I should get out. that I just like looking for trouble. I started begging him o! hopin

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If you want to move into your home by then, you can save costs by saving money on the wood with some advice shared by the OP about getting 2x12 wood and then cutting it into 2x2, 2x3 and 2x4 sections. From me, i think you can go for the cheapest roof now (you can change it later when you are financially bouyant), complete plumbing work for kitchen and 1 toilet and if you can the electricals. Once you have done this, the house is livable. You can take your time to do the rest once you move in.

God bless you.

TheAngry1:
When a man is about to self-destruct, his reasoning is temporarily suspended and he is altogether given over to a reprobate mind. I am really sorry for Freeze...

Be sorry for yourself.

Oyiboman69:
Serving God is by choice,paying tithes is by choice but as for me that don't pay,i always envy most tithers,the way they derive joy in paying. The disappointing thing is that,tbh,they are even financially balanced than I am

So you believe.

Please go and check what constituted the tithe in those days.




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There's express commandment of tithe in the Bible but you all claimed that it's for the Levites but One thing you forgot to know is that the duties of these biblical Levites in the temple that prompted the tithe are bn taken care of by some people in todays present church who are also being taken care of by the church through tithes etc.[/quote]

malvisguy212:
YES, it is my heaven, my home. you are free to join me, it will only cost you your favourite sin.

Why do you bask in the euphoria of your own deceit ?

Happy sunday to every reader of this piece.
I feel there is the need to make certain clarifications as to the recent Daddy Freeze/Pastors/Tithing controversy on ground.
To the best of my knowledge, Freeze has been labelled an anti-Christ by some quarters and that tag is spreading like a wildfire but i feel people should try as much as possible, to first, understand his arguments before joining in calling him an antichrist. I personally wonder why he would be tagged an anti-Christ when on the contrary, he has even been preaching Jesus Christ and his teachings in most of his releases. One thing we all need not intentionally shy away from is his main point which is "The Doctrine of Tithing".
This, people have taken to mean something not intended by him. Let us all look at what he advocates. Freeze never asked anyone not to give tithe but how people have been made to believe the concept of tithing is his main concern. For instance, in one of his videos (on Linda Ikeji TV) he gave in details (according to the bible) how tithe was being paid and had all these things backed up with scriptural quotes. The main point however, is to whom the tithes are being paid and I believe this is the bone of contention and it is turning uglier by the day as various stakeholders have come at him even to the point of cursing but we would all agree that he has over this issue, been very "unDaddyFreezelike" by not firing back because he knows it is a very sensitive issue and would not want to be quoted doing those avoidable things.
The one thing that baffles me remains the inability of Freeze's opponents to come up with biblical quotes which neutralize his points. Or would anyone tell me that as religious as Nigeria is, there is no biblical scholar strong enough to convince Freeze otherwise?
As much as we would all, at one point or the other, feel the need to comment on this subject matter either at a physical gathering or on social media, I urge us all to be careful of our choice of words as I feel it would be too extreme to label Daddy Freeze an anti-christ even if we feel his beliefs on the Doctrine of Tithing is not the same as ours.
Thanks a lot.

Say Jesus Christ our lord (Amen Amen Amen) In the name of almighty Lord (Amen Amen Amen) I go many places, many place for Africa Pastor's house na hin dey fine pass
I waka waka waka

wagazala:
Game recognise game.

Hoes do too

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Hello
I have a Note 2 with a non responsive Wi-Fi and Bluetooth. So there's no way I can use the Hotspot/Wi-Fi/Bluetooth facilities on this phone

When using my Airtel sim on it, it's the best phone in the world as it goes on all 4G and downloads like magic. BUT
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So these are the 2 issues I'm having with the phone.

Any recommendations would be tried.
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THE RESEMBLANCE IS ALL I SEE. JUST TOO MUCH. HE NEEDS TO SPEAK ON THIS.

......someone who has run a successful business........
then dont say youre not an Atiku fan.
Pls goan vote him.
yours is just a vote and nothing more
I'm not hell bent on voting for Buhari but if Atiku is the most qualified candidate from the opposition, I'd rather vote PMB again.
Atiku seems too selfish.
FryingPan better pass fire.








quote author=SalamRushdie post=62923984]

I have never been a supporter of Atiku but rather a supporter of Buhari but after what I have seen Buhari I must say no leadership can be worse or more purposeless than what Buhari is delivering today ..I am wiser and will only vote someone who has ever ran a successful business and not an empty useless sloganeering herdsman with and IQ of 20 and the blood thirstyness of a school of piranhas.[/quote]

olihilistic:
Respected my foot. Here in Makurdi I don't even regard him talk more of globally..

YOU ?

This is enlightening enough.
Very interesting.
My people need to know they're being used.



post=62919973]Pastor Jones jailed for telling members to tithe 10% of their incomes.

Courtroom exchanges between a Judge of the Law and Pastor Jones.

The truth about tithing
(unknown author)

Judge: Mr. Jones you have been charged with multiple counts of extortion. Your crime spree covers 20 years and thousands of victims. You have defrauded people out of their money with fear and manipulation, telling them they had to tithe 10% of their income as per the LAW to your Regd. organization (called Church) and that God would bless them if they did. You also told them that if they didn't tithe God would curse them.
How do you plead?

Mr. Jones: I plead not guilty your Honor,
I have done nothing wrong. I have only preached what the Bible says. In the Bible Abraham tithed to Melchizedek and God blessed him for his faithful giving. The Bible even says he was rich in silver and gold.

Judge: Is it not true, Mr. Jones, that in Genesis chapter 13 verse 2 the Bible says Abraham was rich with livestock, silver and gold?

Mr. Jones: Yes, you are exactly right, that's what I just told you.

Judge: Ok, we read about Abraham being a rich man in chapter 13 but it is not until Genesis chapter 14 that we read about Abraham's tithe to Melchizedek. So Abraham was already a rich man before he tithed to Melchizedek, wasn't he?

Mr. Jones: Yes, I suppose you are right.

Judge: So his riches were not the result of his tithe to Melchizedek?

Mr. Jones: No.

Judge: Mr. Jones, you also say God blessed him for his faithful giving. How many times is it recorded that Abraham gave tithes to Melchizedek?

Mr. Jones: Well, just once.

Judge: So the Bible never said that he gave week after week?

Mr. Jones: No it does not.

Judge: Where did Abraham get the things that he gave to Melchizedek?

Mr. Jones: Well the Bible says it was from the plunders of war?

Judge: So you are telling me that he gave from the plunders of war?

Mr. Jones: Yes that's what the Bible says.

Judge: So he basically took things that were not really his in the first place and gave them as the tithe?

Mr. Jones: That is what the scripture seems to indicate.

Judge: Is it recorded that he ever took anything from his own possessions and tithed them to Melchizedek or anyone else?

Mr. Jones: I guess not

Judge: You guess not, you are a teacher and you are only guessing, is it or is it not written that he ever gave any of his own possessions as a tithe to anyone?

Mr. Jones: No it is not written anywhere that I have seen.

Judge: Is it recorded as to what exactly Abraham did give Melchizedek?

Mr. Jones: I believe it says plunder?

Judge: So plunder could be any number of things?

Mr. Jones: Yes, I suppose

Judge: It could have been food, cattle, sheep, the people's possessions or any number of things. It does not say it was all money correct?

Mr. Jones: Yes you are correct, it does not say just money

Judge: As a matter of fact money is never mentioned in that account at all is that correct Mr. Jones?

Mr. Jones: Yes your Honor, money is never mentioned just goods and food and people.

Judge: So there is no way you can say with any certainty that Abraham in fact gave Melchizedek any money at all?

Mr. Jones: That is right.

Judge: I only have one last question for you Mr. Jones, did God command Abraham to give this plunder tithe to Melchizedek?

Mr. Jones: No, it appears that he did this voluntarily.

Judge: So are you trying to tell me that because of this voluntary, one time gift by Abraham, that may not have even consisted of money, all Christians everywhere are obligated to bring 10% of their weekly paycheck to a local Regd.Organization-church?
Considering all the evidence I would say you are beyond any shadow of a doubt guilty of deliberately trying to make the scriptures says things they have not said for financial gain.

Mr. Jones: Ok your Honor, I can see how foolish I was to try and use the story of Melchizedeck to try and get the people to tithe money. But there are many other verses that will support my belief on tithing. Jacob said he would give God 10% of everything. I think we should follow his example.

Judge: Let's see what Jacob said. Please read the verse you are talking about for me Mr. Jones.

Mr. Jones: In Genesis chapter 28 starting at verse 20 it says. Jacob vowed a vow, saying, "If God will be with me, and will keep me in this way that I go, and will give me bread to eat, and clothing to put on, so that I come again to my father's house in peace, and Yahweh will be my God, then this stone, which I have set up for a pillar, will be God's house. Of all that you will give me I will surely give the tenth to you."

Judge: You said we should follow Jacobs example, is that right Mr. Jones?

Mr. Jones: Yes that is right, he vowed to give a tenth and we should too.

Judge: Let me point out one thing for you Mr. Jones, Jacob said he would Give God a tenth, ONLY if He blessed him first. So as you said previously, we should follow Jacob's example and tell God that we will only give him a tenth if he blesses us first. Is that right?

Mr. Jones: That is not what I meant.

Judge: What did you mean then?

Mr. Jones: That we should give God a tenth also.

Judge: There you go again, trying to make the scripture say what you want it to say for your benefit. I would also like you to tell me the scriptures that say that Jacob kept his vow with God. I would also like to know where he gave the tenth to because there was no temple or levites to give it to at that time.

Mr. Jones: I can not think of any scriptures that say where or if he ever tithed after his vow.

Judge: It seems fairly obvious to me that Jacob made a voluntary and conditional vow to God. This in no way can be used as a reason to demand others to bring their income to you or any other place.

Mr. Jones: I do have a few more scriptures that I believe will show that we are supposed to tithe.

Judge: You have not said anything yet to convince me one little bit that people are obligated to tithe money to the local organizational institutions -churches and that you were justified in what you were doing. You have taken scripture and misapplied it to your beliefs and for your gain. But in order to be fair to you I will allow you to present more evidence.

Mr. Jones: In the book of Malachi chapter 3 starting at verse 8 it says, will a man rob God? yet ye have robbed me. But ye say, In what have we robbed thee? In tithes and offerings. Ye are cursed with a curse: for ye have robbed me, even this whole nation. Bring ye all the tithes into the store-house, that there may be food in my house, and prove me now with this, saith the LORD of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it. So you see your Honor, we are commanded to bring the tithes into the storehouse or God will curse us.

Judge: Answer me this Mr Jones, Who was God Speaking to here?

Mr Jones: To the People of Israel

Judge: Can you please read Malachi 2: 1 Please Mr Jones

Mr Jones: Now This command is for you O PRIEST !!

Judge: Did God stop talking to the Priest in chp. 3 Mr Jones?

Mr Jones: No your Honor!

Judge: Answer me this Mr. Jones, were you aware that God never required anyone to tithe money?

Mr. Jones: No I didn't know that.

Judge: The tithe spoken of here was always edible products never money.

Mr. Jones: well your Honor that is because they didn't have money at the time so God had them tithe food instead.

Judge: Not true, money is first mentioned in Genesis and Malachi was written hundreds of years later. God had them bring food in so that the levites, the fatherless and widows may eat and be satisfied. The tithe was used mainly to take care of people. Also notice it says in the verse you quoted, that there may be food in my house. The food was the tithe. How do you completely overlook the word food in those verses?

Mr. Jones: I don't know

Judge: I also want you to know that these verses speak to nation under the Old Testament law. As you may or may not know Jesus fulfilled the law, it is no longer binding.
Once again you have tried to completely take a scripture out of context and apply it to others for your benefit. Can you give me a single scripture where God changed the tithe from food to money?

Mr. Jones: I do not know of any.

Judge: So if God never changed it from food to money who did?

Mr. Jones: Man must have.

Judge: So far all you have done Mr. Jones, is take Old Testament scriptures out of context and try to apply it to believers under the New Covenant. Is this all the proof you have?

Mr. Jones: I do have a New Testament scripture that will show that Jesus told us to tithe.

Judge: Ok let me hear it.

Mr. Jones: Jesus said in Matthew 23:23 "Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you tithe mint, dill, and cumin, and have left undone the weightier matters of the law: justice, mercy, and faith. But you ought to have done these, and not to have left the other undone. See Jesus said we should be tithing.

Judge: Let me ask you a question, who was Jesus talking to?

Mr. Jones: The scripture says the Scribes and Pharisees.

Judge: Are you a scribe or Pharisee?

Mr. Jones: Of course not.

Judge: Jesus also said in that passage, you have left undone the weightier matters of the law. Are we under the law Mr. Jones?

Mr. Jones: No.

Judge: Why not?

Mr. Jones: Because Jesus fulfilled it.

Judge: When did Jesus fulfill the law?

Mr. Jones: When He was crucified.

Judge: So the law was still in effect until Jesus death?

Mr. Jones: That is correct.

Judge: I think you know where I am going with this don't you?

Mr. Jones: Yes your Honor. Since Jesus had not yet been crucified and the law was still binding the Pharisees were required to tithe because it was part of the law. Once the law ended, tithing ended also.

Judge: I want you to take a look at that verse again. Also tell me, what were they tithing?

Mr. Jones: The scripture says it was mint, dill and cumin.

Judge: Is money mentioned?

Mr. Jones: No it was not.

Judge: Once again it was edible products that they were tithing, not money. Do you have anything else you would like to say?

Mr. Jones: If people only tithed edible products like the scripture says, then how would the church survive? We have our mortgage payment, utility bills, staff salary and a host of other things that we have to pay each week. We depend on the money from the people.

Judge:By "church" you mean your organization isn't it Mr Jones ?
-The need does not justify the means. In other words, just because you have all these debts does not give you the right to twist and manipulate scripture and cause people to give under fear of being cursed by God to meet your needs. Does It Mr Jones?
In closing, let me recap a few things for you Mr. Jones.
-The tithe was never money;
-The tithe was an Old Testament law, which is no longer binding. When it was binding the tithe was used to take care of people, not buildings.
- We are under a new covenant now.
Paul instructs the Corinthian believers how they are to give. He says in second Corinthians chapter 9 verse 7, Let each man give according as he has determined in his heart; not grudgingly, or under compulsion; for God loves a cheerful giver. So each believer is supposed to give as he or she has determined in his or her heart.
If they determine to Give 10% well and good, If they keep aside some every week to meet this more better.If you are trying to make people give under the threat of being cursed or any other reason even blessing, you are wrong. Someone can not give cheerfully if they are being forced to give. If 'your church can not survive on freewill offerings maybe God is not part of your church at all.
Mr Jones, Do you intentionally put your people under a Curse or a Bondage?

Mr Jones: Of Course Not !!

Judge: Can you Read in context Gal 3:10-11 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them ....
AND
Gal 5:1-4 Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage....

Mr. Jones: I never realized all these things, I have always been taught that we had to tithe money to the local church and that is what I have always taught. I can see now that I was completely wrong. I did not study the scripture for myself, I only took mans word for it.
Yes ' am guilty. I will not teach this error anymore.

Sentencing....... All Arise .......

Let here ur take on this?......[/quote]

chesterlee:
shame unto Freeze (The Anti Christ)

P.O.C:
He's not anti-christ.
On the contrary, he even encourages you to read your bible as expected so that your parents don't feel stupid for giving you education all to be swindled by some MenInSuits.
He's against your being poor as a result of your being dull enough to being brainwashed by your jet-flying Daddy/Papa.

HerTickle, why are you just telling us ? You had to fall out with his party to do this. BTW, the cause for his is better than yours. All the same, I'm not safe wit u. You just proved how much of a mole u r. Please coman be going. OlofofoAgbalagba. [b]HerTickle, why are you just telling us ? You had to fall out with his party to do this. BTW, the cause for his is better than yours. All the same, I'm not safe wit u. You just proved how much of a mole u r. Please coman be going. OlofofoAgbalagba. [/b]HerTickle, why are you just telling us ? You had to fall out with his party to do this. BTW, the cause for his is better than yours. All the same, I'm not safe wit u. You just proved how much of a mole u r. Please coman be going. OlofofoAgbalagba.

so everyone who adds 'God Willing' to his/her sentences doesn't die abi ?
Btw, R.I.P to the dead.

[i].......is getting unbearable.........
for who ?
You ?
You Is Funny.

Kulas:
So Obj is now God that gives Power or what?.This Obj hatred and hardened heart over Atiku is getting unbearable,part of it being that Atiku opposed Obj third term agenda which we all were happy over the step.Atiku should ignore [/i]Obj and ride on.Its God that giveth power and any stumbling block on Atiku way to success being placed by Obj..,Holy Ghost fireeeee!!!!.

na keyboard error
or his phone did that to him retaliatorily.

biacan:
Why didn't he knelt down

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