₦airaland Forum

Thomas a Kempis says, 'Habit is overcome by Habit'.A habit of not going to mass is only overcome by going to mass. Do not despair.Everyday is a new day with new opportunities.This period of Lent is an especially unique opportunity at reconciling with God, for the required graces abound.
Start this week by saying simple short prayers in the morning and evenings,you do not need to be a prayer warrior. Our father..,Hail Mary.., Glory be.. Occasionally read psalm 25 and 27. Also,read Johns gospel.
When the weekend comes attend the mass that suits you .If you fall dust yourself, go to confession,try again.
As your spirit grows in Christ,you will know what to do,because he will reveal it in your heart,

The Grace and Peace of Christ be with you.

iamgenius:
Only a verse from the Holy Book revealed to the last messenger of God, Muhammad (peace be upon him) , who is a brother to Jesus(peace be upon him) likewise all other Prophets explains your question.

Allah says:

Quran Chapter 5 - Verse 14

And we made a covenant with those who proclaimed we are christians they then forgot a large portion of the advices given to them we have therefore instilled ENMITY and HATRED between them till the day of resurrection and allah will soon inform them of what they were doing

As if though Muslims don't have a sunni vs shia full blown war going on in Syria and Yemen.Is that not more enmity and hatred than that of Christians?
Men will always corrupt divine things for their selfish temporal benefit. No teaching that comes up, that there is not a corruption or alternate. The Jews had the Pharisees and Sadducees sects as the main sects fighting over the interpretation of scripture .They have different sects now,so do Muslims and Christians.That should inform you that the spirit of confusion is in full swing.

BluntBoy:
People like who talked about it

1 Clem. 42:1 The Apostles received the Gospel for us from the Lord Jesus
Christ; Jesus Christ was sent forth from God.
1 Clem. 42:2 So then Christ is from God, and the Apostles are from Christ.
Both therefore came of the will of God in the appointed order.
1 Clem. 42:3 Having therefore received a charge, and having been fully
assured through the resurrection of our Lord Jesus Christ and confirmed in
the word of God with full assurance of the Holy Ghost, they went forth with
the glad tidings that the kingdom of God should come.
1 Clem. 42:4 So preaching everywhere in country and town, they appointed
their firstfruits, when they had proved them by the Spirit, to be bishops and
deacons unto them that should believe.
1 Clem. 42:5 And this they did in no new fashion; for indeed it had been
written concerning bishops and deacons from very ancient times; for thus
saith the scripture in a certain place, I will appoint their bishops in
righteousness and their deacons in faith.

1 Clem. 44:1 And our Apostles knew through our Lord Jesus Christ that there
would be strife over the name of the bishop's office.
1 Clem. 44:2 For this cause therefore, having received complete
foreknowledge, they appointed the aforesaid persons, and afterwards they
provided a continuance, that if these should fall asleep, other approved men
should succeed to their ministration. Those therefore who were appointed by
them, or afterward by other men of repute with the consent of the whole
Church, and have ministered unblamably to the flock of Christ in lowliness of
mind, peacefully and with all modesty, and for long time have borne a good
report with all these men we consider to be unjustly thrust out from their
ministration.
1 Clem. 44:3 For it will be no light sin for us, if we thrust out those who have
offered the gifts of the bishop's office unblamably and holily.

first letter of clement to the Corinthians.

from my previous post. '',.... In-fact ona was involved in both masturbation and contraception. I wont repeat that...''

Noun[edit]
onanism (usually uncountable, plural onanisms)

Masturbation.
Ejaculating outside the vagina during intercourse; (the performing of) c.oitus interruptus.

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/onanism


C.oitus interruptus, also known as the rejected sexual intercourse, withdrawal or pull-out method, is a method of birth control in which a man, during sexual intercourse, withdraws his penis from a woman's vagina prior to orgasm (and ejaculation) and then directs his ejaculate (semen) away from the vagina in an effort to avoid insemination.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coitus_interruptus

what you are calling adoption is not adoption,if you want to adopt find the right place to.

The natural method of family planing does not artificially/mechanical obstruct the sexual act in any way.


All of the studies involve the use of the ClearBlue fertility monitor along with cervical mucus monitoring. In general, the perfect use efficacy of the Marquette Method ranges from 1-2 unintended pregnancies per 100 women over 12 months of use, in other words 98-99% effective to avoid pregnancy when used correctly.
https://nfp.marquette.edu/efficacy.php

If 100 sexually active women don't use any contraception, 80 to 90 will become pregnant in a year. If used according to teaching and instructions, natural family planning methods are up to 99 per cent effective, depending on which method is used.
https://www.fpa.org.uk/contraception-help/natural-family-planning


Making things easy doesn't mean making them better.

Humanistme:
if by natural method you mean calendar method method of contraception then you must know it is not effective because of changes in the woman's cycle and for some women their cycle is not even regular.

also sex between couple is not solely for procreation it is meant to be enjoyed. the bible said couples should not deny themselves.

so i was referring to use of contraceptives in marriage not for casual sex(casual sex/adultery is already a sin with or without contraception I do not know what your point is. )


why is coitus interruptus sinful?

my point about adoption is that they don't allow to adopt free like that. the processes cost money.

would you rather the child dies or not properly cared for in motherless/fatherless babies cos you do not want to part with some cash?

you are just bringing up irrevant point. my comments was not in anyway supporting child trafficking. there regulatory bodies for legal adoption in Nigeria.

so why does your god allow procreation in a woman that pregnancy will put at risk

why does he allow ectopic pregnancies that's the question you should be asking.

Point of correction,natural family planing is 95-99% effective,more than many a contraceptive.

Sex is meant to be enjoyed but it is not recreational,but procreational.

Firstly, I have already stated that interrupting the natural procreative process ordained by God using an artificial means is against Gods will hence a sin.so contraception is a sin no matter the status of those involved. In-fact ona was involved in both masturbation and contraception. I wont repeat that.
2. It desecrates marriage.and relationship between the sexes(read previous posts above).
3. It promotes promiscuity among married couples to a degree that threatens their marriage in ways not possible before.
4. Sex between married couples using contraceptive is not unitive,that is,it doesn't bind them but rather slowly makes the sex a sex based on pleasure not love. A pleasure that can be found outside marriage.

There is no such thing as cost of processing an adoption that is double speak for selling.Orphanages have never in times past required the children to be adopted for cash to sustain the facility.

God has never approved of disease in humans as a good thing,it is a corruption of the body. So also an ectopic pregnancy is a disorder of a normal pregnancy. In-fact,the Catholic Church teaches, if in a person that has an ectopic pregnancy the healing procedure leads to the unavoidable accidental loss of the child, it is not an acquired abortion.

Humanistme:
you said this "Any man who does not consider his wife's health or even his personal wealth when considering how many kids to have is completely irresponsible and dangerous. Period.
"

so how is use of contraceptives sinful?

are physical barriers such as IUD/condoms sinful also.

"God" was angry with onanism not because of masturbation but because he refused to impregnate his brother's wife as he was commanded.

in the real world i.e. in this our country Nigeria adoption is not free. in fact it is expensive that is why baby factories even thrive because they are cheaper.

so if a couple is childless in Nigeria they should die childless like that because adoption is sinful you are not serious.

If you are saying withdrawal method is sinful how will a couple then do their birth control give me examples of this your natural methods

how does a man masturbating to provide sample for the lab scientists in order to fix his sexual health commiting a sin? how does it affect the society negatively you have not answered that.

again where did the bible say thou shalt not masturbate?

I mean the bible was quite detailed in condemning murder and homosexuals how was masturbation missed if it was so sinful?

Are you reading my posts?
I have already explained to you how contraception changes procreative sex to re-creative sex,damages marriage and social cohesion between man and woman and you still ask how it is sinful? People are engaging in more uncontrolled sex outside of marriage both adultery and fornication, using contraceptives as the primary tool and you ask how is it sinful?.

On my quote where I said "Any man who does not consider his wife's health...." I was talking about using natural family planing. google it, and research.Educate yourself this is not a battle of wits.

https://www.google.com/search?client=opera&q=natural+family+planning&sourceid=opera&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8

Ona was punished by God not because he refused to impregnate his brothers wife but because he poured out his seed.

Noun[edit]
onanism (usually uncountable, plural onanisms)

Masturbation.
Ejaculating outside the vagina during intercourse; (the performing of) coitus interruptus.
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/onanism


Each marriage act (act of sexual intercourse) must be unaltered before, during, or after the act. No action may be taken to alter the act because each act must be objectively unitive and procreative in order to be authentic and properly ordered as God designed.

Subjectively that particular act may or may not be procreative. For example, if someone is naturally infertile due to time of the month, post-menopause, already pregnant, etc, then an unaltered act of intercourse is objectively procreative but subjectively does not result in conception. Condoms and IUD artificially prevent the procreative act ordained by God which is meant to result in natural conception hence, are sinful.

I wont speak on contraception again because it is a derailment of the OP's topic.

The real world is not the "Real"world but a corrupt one run by money and greed.Are you really a humanist to think that child selling is acceptable? That giving a price to human life is o.k.?If you are not aware child selling is called child trafficking and is an abominable crime in many parts of the world.
The Hague Convention on Intercountry Adoption is a treaty which bans the buying and selling of children and attempts to impose controls and regulation on inter-country adoption, which gives rise to the practice.[65]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child-selling.

Any method of the so called sexual health that involves masturbation is a sin.

Humanistme:
where in the bible is thou shall not masturbate written?

If the man's wife helps him to extract the sperm is it still sinful?

if a doctor suspects low sperm is the cause of infertility and wants to conduct tests is it still a sin for the man to masturbate in order to provide doctor the sample he/she needs to confirm the diagnosis?

also is adoption now a sin since authorities /owners of the motherless/fatherless homes profit from it?

so a married woman who her life is at risk if she has more children or a poor family cannot use contraceptive and breed like almajiris in this our overpopulated shithole of a country with limited resources? ok

I repeat you hate anything that makes people's life better.

this is how some fanatics will suffer poor women to give birth to children even at the age when their life is at risk because contraceptive is a sin. zealots.

go and check the statistics of maternal mortality in this our shithole.

Nigeria is a mess because we are not a meritocratic nation. People do not value education and reward it,neither do we value its application, hard work and industry and the groundwork required for it e.g. infrastructure. The Greater nations of this world notice and reward you for your effort by giving you more opportunities and leadership roles.Here it is suppressed to maintain the power status quo of a selfish few,so stop blaming our population.In the 80's when our population was about 80 million where we an advancing merit-based society? Even now our population is less than the U.S. and China and just larger than Russia- all superpowers,our landmass is much smaller than theirs but we are still at the back end of the world because we are not merit driven, not because of numbers.

Masturbation is a sin, Genesis 38:8-10 Google onanism. From the scriptural person ona and research intensively.

Adoption is meant to be free,we don't sell babies.That is cheapening of human life. Making humans a product on the shelf.If you want an orphan you should just register and get one. We don't want baby factories.

There are already alternative natural methods of planning a family. Do your research.

Any man who does not consider his wife's health or even his personal wealth when considering how many kids to have is completely irresponsible and dangerous. Period.

Any process of masturbation that simulates sex or attempts sexual arousal leading to masturbation is sinful irrespectful of those involved.If a man on his own can sin against his body when masturbating then it is possible with others involved.

I oppose what worsens society even if it makes a persons life easier(not better).

Humanistme:
artificial insemination is not the reason for singleness /divorce. you can still have sex without getting and become a baby mama /baby daddy.

misogyny and patriarchy is as old as ever. and it is entrenched in your religious books. it is not caused by artificial insemination.

and you didn't answer my second question

is artificial insemination also a sin in a marriage where the couple cannot conceive through natural method?




and how. does contraceptives cause misogyny /misandry. there is nothing I would not see on nairaland.

you guys hate anything that will make people's live better.

Hate is in the eye of the person that perceives it. A child can hate the father for not allowing him to eat poisoned food.That you do not understand a knowledge that limits you or opposes you does not mean it hates you.

Within marriage AI is a sin,especially if 1.masturbation is a first step to AI. 2.if it involves an external person who has no responsibilities to the child and has broken the marriage covenant(mechanical adultery)3. such a person has profited financially from it and hence turned human life into something that can be bought and sold.In these cases the marriage has been wounded.This does not mean any scientific method of aiding conception without mechanically interfering in the primary act is sinful. E.g. drugs.

Contraception changes the natural social and primary role of sex from procreation to recreation.This dramatic shift leads to less marriage as more people want to have more sexual partners, and see no reason to form a life long bond with a single person. This,socially,separates the sexes.There is no permanent life long neutral meeting point between man and woman(marriage) in society,or many strong examples of it, and no mutual dependencies between the sexes.Sex hence becomes a short term contract with no permanent emotion attached.Once they(man and woman) are totally independent of each other and do not have any permanent benefit from a relationship with each other, misandry and misogyny is the next natural logical step. The increase in such discrimination would be in exponential proportions.

Humanistme:
from this op the women doesn't think marriage is not necessary. she only opted for artificial insemination because she feared she won't be able to get married before menopause calls.

scientists didn't develop methods of artificial insemination because of divorce or battlefield of the sexes stop yarning dust.

What single individuals do and think,and what scientist discover and apply are not important in the overall world view.It is how the general society reacts to or is affected by it. As i have said before,the family is the smallest uniting unit of the social group/society,not the individual and marriage is the uniting bond of the family. We learn by observing and copying what we see despite our different conditions in life. To the unmarried AI is a reason not to marry in the long run (a freedom from spousal responsibilities).To the married it is an opt-out point if you no longer feel the need to remain in the relationship as more people divorce and celebrate their singleness.

The fallout of a society deep in the mud of IVF,AI,Contraception and other mechanical procreative practices,is less marriages (resulting in lower birth rates) higher divorce rates among married couples(to have the empowering 'sexual freedom' of the unmarried) and a demeaning of the opposite sex ( misandry/misogyny) which is the opposite of the uniting power of family units in society.

The growing misandry,and misogyny is the fallout of the scientific processes' mechanical interference in natural procreation. Men and women are beginning to demean and hate each other more because the don't share any lasting love and see less examples of such in society.(life long unions/marriages)And mechanical procreation/contraception is a negative force that advances that hate.
Because it is not wide spread here yet does not mean it won't be soon, just look to the west for examples.

Anyway this thread is meant to be from a christian POV,the fact that masturbation is an important first step in AI (artificial insemination) has already made the process sinful from the start.

KeenMind:
What sort of illogical claptrap is this?

Just a collection of incoherent sentences wound around slippery slope fallacy.

Artificial insemination is making society worse? Why don't you do away with the other inventions of modern medicine too and livebin your "perfect society"?


Of course, marriage is NOT NECESSARY - whether to a man or a woman.


No, the Bible is not a tenable proof that marriage is necessary.


Learn to look further than your nose. The world doesn't revolve around your beliefs.

If you believe marriage is not necessary for procreation there is no need for us to debate on this particular issue neither can you understand my earlier posts. This thread was directed at Christians.

Edit.
since your profile name suggests you are a deep thinker,let me asks a question. In a society,with little or no marriage and rampant divorce combined with alternative means of procreation outside of marriage. Do you think a point will come when men and women will consider each sex as a hindrance to their happiness and success hence a gender war? Will children be considered and un neccesary baggage to attaining success and liberty? pls, use you deep thinking abilities.

Seun:
It saddens me to observe that religion seems to oppose anything which can make a woman’s life better. There should be no need for this debate at all. I am grateful to the Christians who have picked the right side.

Making society a better place is more important than making either gender happier. Artificial insemination is a danger to marriage and the family life on the whole.Remember,the family is the smallest binding unit of any society. This very case shows an example of a woman's act that suggests marriage is not necessary.
Such acts lead to large scale divorce rates,the unwinding of the family unit ,one of the results happens to be enmity and a battle of the sexes as is occurring in the West where each sex says; 'Thanks to technology we don't need you'.This is one of the first stages in the collapse of human order.

For Catholics.

The Catholic Church teaches that among humans artificial insemination constitutes such a violation of the dignity of the person and the sanctity of marriage as to be contrary to the natural and divine law. Catholic teaching on artificial insemination (among humans) was summed up by Pope Pius XII in an address to Catholic physicians (September 29, 1949). The various dimensions of the immorality involved include: in donor insemination (insemination with the active element of a donor); the third-party invasion of the exclusive marriage covenant in a kind of mechanical adultery; the irresponsibility of the donor fathering a child for which he can fulfill no paternal responsibility; and the deordination of his masturbation in order to thus donate his paternal seed. Even if insemination could be artificially achieved with the husband's semen properly collected (without masturbation) the papal teaching still points out that any process that isolates the sacred act of human generation from the beautiful and intimate conjugal union of the marriage act itself is inconsistent with the holiness and intimate personalism of that two-in-one-flesh union which alone is appropriate for the generation of a child. As long, however, as the integrity of the marriage act is preserved, various clinical techniques designed to facilitate the process are not to be condemned.

https://www.catholicculture.org/culture/library/dictionary/index.cfm?id=31983

U.S. council of catholic Bishops. UCCB.


In 1987 the Sacred Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith issued a document known as Donum Vitae ("The Gift of Life" ), which addressed the morality of many modern fertility procedures. The document did not judge the use of technology to overcome infertility as wrong in itself. It concluded that some methods are moral, while others—because they do violence to the dignity of the human person and the institution of marriage—are immoral. Donum Vitae reaffirmed an obligation to protect all human life when married couples use various technologies to try to have children. Without questioning the motives of those using these techniques, Donum Vitae pointed out that people can do harm to themselves and others even as they try to do what is good, that is, overcome infertility. The fundamental principle which the Church used to assess the morality of various means of overcoming infertility was a rather simple one, even if its application is sometimes difficult.

Donum Vitae teaches that if a given medical intervention helps or assists the marriage act to achieve pregnancy, it may be considered moral; if the intervention replaces the marriage act in order to engender life, it is not moral.

www.usccb.org/issues-and-action/human-life-and-dignity/reproductive-technology/begotten-not-made-a-catholic-view-of-reproductive-technology.cfm

Note to all Christians. Masturbation may be a step in the process to artificial insemination.

It is a sin. As a christian,sex and conception is restricted to matrimony and should be the product of the love shared by two individuals .
Artificial insemination turns the human child and indeed humanity in general into an object that can be obtained and sold for the selfish desires of humans by a non human process. Once humans can be procured in ways outside of natural conception the human person has lost his dignity and is subject to further corruption for selfish ends. We end up being no better than a bottle of vodka on a shelf, and a culture of death ensues where if it is easy to create humans mechanically(that is with aid outside sex and marriage) then there is no scruples in mass murder because mass production is possible.Humans basically no longer have value because they can be mass produced .Hence,insemination while possible, is against the culture of life that protects all of society instead of satisfying the wants(not needs) of a few.I say ''want'' because not all individuals need to breed to protect society.
On the issue of cases similar to Mary.Proper investigation and the application of Christian compassion and mercy would suggest that a real Christian church will judge if the child is out of wedlock,if found so,would require the persons involved to repent and then apply forgiveness for the penitent one.

In summary, Artificial insemination objectifies and cheapens human life,opening the way to a culture of death.
If you are looking for a biblical explanation you wont find it because there was no artificial insemination in those day.What is clear though is that any method of conception outside marriage is a sin.

For Christians, love between 2 people should be the only method of bringing children into the world.

beethoven:
While I am not in support of Buhari's adminstration. Have we ever thought of the fact that fleeing Boko Haram members could be responsible for these killings (can you tell d difference btw a Boko Haram member and a Fulani herdsman?). Or perhaps some cabal who are desperate for power in 2019 might be responsible for this? (Our politician don't care about peoples' lives so long as the end justifies the means.

Just saying...

Note: I am not a Buhari's supporter neither do I support open grazing by Fulani herdsmen.

Bokoharam are all kanuri people.

The Cattle headers are Fulani.

she (the lady in question) is basically carrying over the rules and regulations of one organisation ( Islam) and enforcing it to and against the rules of the other (NBA). The moment you accept one organisation , you are bound by its rules.
If you freely accept Islam,your rights are curbed by that organization,except the fundamental human right.( in this case, the right of association.) which guarantees you the right to exit and form yours/ join another. It is same if you freely accept the NBA.

The court has no jurisdiction over association rules because she freely entered and can freely leave. Hence she has no right to enforce the rules of one organisation(Islam) on another(NBA)

The issue is that they sneak out in their military uniform . They then go to some Fulani gatemen around the academy......

Around the academy not manning its gates.

The Army pilots must definitely be rotary wing(helicopters) not fixed wings (Airplanes/Fighter jets) which is the preserve of the Air force. Army pilots do CAS ( Close Air-Support) work,and short range Search and Destroy/air-Interdiction work ahead of, and for the GI ( Ground Infantry). The reporter should have been more specific about the air assets involved.

The devil is a spirit and like all other spirits was infused with all the knowledge they require at the moment of their creation.(Read the Summa theologica).All the knowledge they require for existence they had instantly from God as spirits,hence were perfect creations for their position from day 1.They don't struggle to gain knowledge the way we do.
With that perfection-and devoid of human sensual corruption-they made their choices,as a result they can't repent.It is impossible.This is because repentance is based on error in judgement as a result of corruption in acquired knowledge or the human passions overriding knowledge.

This should help.
https://www.nairaland.com/1308557/starting-oil-palm-plantation

j1mmy:
You still have no idea what education is or what I am talking about, I guess it affects you too so you don't know otherwise.
what a pity.

You have just done exactly what the PC brigade do. The very thing I said they always do.Degrade personalities with little or no fact attached. As an aside Education is multifaceted. I am speaking about both moral and intellectual education.

j1mmy:
Let me educate you and as result you will understand the "education" I am talking about.
Nigerians have more university degrees than other black communities in the world, that education however is devoid of basic commonsense-education!

It is not suprising to find nigerian degree holders (including PHDs) who still believe in santa, juju, evil owls, flying witches, polygamy and circumcision! How many nigerian degree holders practice family planning when they know they cannot feed and cater for the children.

How many Nigerian degree holders can tell the difference between right and wrong? you have a country filled with degree holders who cannot wait to practice the same rubbish their 6th century ancestors did!

The level of educated-literacy and semi-literacy among Nigerians is alarming, majority of Nigerian educated people can be fooled by uneducated pastors into buying private jets. Majority of Nigerian degree holders believe the jobs they have came from the juju or from a god they have no evidence of.

Nigeria is actually listed as country that imports intelligence and expatriates to manage Nigerian-educated degree holders!

Go read the language and comments Nigerian degree holders use daily to disgrace the entire nation on internet, they are a reflection of Nigeria and what they do affects the entire country's reputation!

Most chinese secondary school kids are smarter than doctors and engineers in Nigeria!

Read my post again, I said the most educated----foreigners---living in the U.S. I am glad you talked about right and wrong( moral education) even the west we praise so much admit they have alarmingly fallen into moral relativity. That is where the idea of 'PC' or political correct people came about,where things are right or wrong solely based on the trend of the day.Hence morality is a fashion dictated by those with the best oratory skills,something we even withness here on nairaland.

Modified.
Here on nairaland the better you are at insulting or degrading people while adding a few 'factual points' the more your social and moral standing. Hence morality is trend and fashion.

A few decades ago,the white man came to our continent,they saw us naked and called us primitive backward natives. we cursed our backwardness and shamefully worked to improved ourselves. Fast forward a few decades,the black man goes to the white mans country and sees naked natives and protest,his fellow black men blasts him for his backwardness at not recognising modern life. HABA?! When will the black man stop attacking his fellow black man and be proud of himself?.
whether you like it or not. These white natives are primitive and backward. Q.E.D.

A disproportionate percentage of black students at elite universities are immigrants or children of immigrants. Nigerian immigrants have the highest education attainment level in the United States, surpassing every other ethnic group in the country, according to U.S Bureau Census data.

Nigerians are not interllectualy backward,let that fallacy stop.

j1mmy:
6th century mentality meets 21st century
Another Nigerian illiterate goes International...humiliates self and nationality.

The more the world advances, the more freedom of thinking and expressing progresses, the more primitive a lot of Nigerians get. Soon there will be literacy and commonsense test for Nigerians to get VISAS

That is factually incorrect.Nigerians are one of the most educated foreigners in the U.S. and indeed the western world,conversely,the white locals of the United states are not doing well education-wise. Infact, the population and technological advancement in the U.S. is increasingly dependent on its immigrant population.

If your farm is well mapped out with pathways.You can always use Okada(bike), without an exhaust, to chase the birds,revving as you go. However, you will have to be in a relatively remote area.

Hmm,what a tragic loss.I would suggest you do not expand on rice yet but rather shrink the land size till you have mastered the art of rice farming. Grow other crops you are sure of,while experimenting with rice so as to maintain some degree of financial strength.(Unless of course, you have serious financial muscle)
On the issue of birds,a few scarecrows combined with a wailing siren may work.

Just my 2 kobo.

bloodofthelamb:
DID GOD ASK THEM TO BOW AND PRAY WITH IT?...WHAT WAS GOD'S INSTRUCTION TO THEM? TO LOOK AND BE HEALED.

so virtue was attributed to the serpent by Gods word wasnt it? That is the point.
If you understand,methodology (bowing,kneeling,looking upon) means nothing.The grace God attributes to the image is everything.

bloodofthelamb:
BRO, BOWING TO AN IMAGE/STATUE IS WRONG...WHETHER, IT IS THE PROTESTANT OR THE CATHOLIC CHURCH THAT DOES IT...THE LORD SAID I WILL NOT GIVE MY GLORY TO CALVED IMAGE...I DON'T CARE WHO OWNS THE IMAGE OR STATUE.

so what of the bronze serpent that God told them to carve?

Mehyour:
Hi,
Please I have 1000 layers bird gotten from farm support. They are 23 weeks going to 24 weeks by Monday. I only have 20 birds laying out of them.... please I need an advice. I'm Scared. I fed them with 4 bags of topfeed layers mash daily. There average weight is 1.7kg at 23 weeks.

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