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Statsocial:
The pope uses a Chartered Alitalia private plane with his entourage. Whether u like it or not doesn't change the facts.

Used for a while. Not the recent Pope. And the pope doesn't keep a private jet. Get ur info straight

SmellingAnus:
God is on your side.... Power is on your side... Favour is on your side... Somebody... Shout fireyayayayyayayayyayayyayay


With this mouth that I use to pray... I bless all the sons and daughters of the Apostle on nairaland.... In this new month... People shall be in a hurry to favour you... Those that say you will not see the end of this year, this year shall see their end.....

Waterererererererereterererer to quench the fire u invoked

Statsocial:
A Response to Freeze thread on private jets

/https://www.nairaland.com/4154132/freeze-im-after-prosperity-pastorsQuestion

and a question to him and his supporters by a Nairalander


By Ife Olaleye

Before writing on Why Pastors Use Private Jets can Freeze and his followers answer the question below for me as I see no difference between a private jet and a private car.


Can Freeze tell me the difference between a Private Jet and a Private Car?

My own response: To the people who use private cars, I tell you that you are of no difference from those who use Private Jets. If Freeze himself and his followers want us to take them seriously then they should sell off their cars to the poor and join the rest of us Nigerians to use BRTs. That is the only way they can prove to me that they are sincere about their crusade against Jets because who is to say Freeze won't buy a private Jet if he has the money to do so.

Now, If God would Judge Oyedepo and Adeboye for using private jets then don't be sure he won't judge you for using a private car when the rest of us are taking BRT. Why not use that money you use in buying Lexus, Camry and Toyota to feed the poor and simply use Danfo or BRT? (Sarcasm) It is amazing that even some Churches where they use Church money to buy Bus would come and criticize those who buy jets for international travels. The way today's people assess issues is strange. To them anything they can not personally afford must be unfair for the Church to procure.


WHY CHURCHES USE PRIVATE JETS
Pastors buying private jets with tithes and offerings is an exaggeration take to far

Out of the millions of clergymen who exist across the globe there is just an handful. Most likely less than 100 who own private jets. As a matter of fact the use of private or charter jets is usually restricted to top leadership of most ministries e.g Pope of Catholic Church, GO of RCCG etc. However the enemies of the church both within and without have made a storm out of a glass of water to create the exaggeration(lie) and make it seem all churches are just being self serving. Before I proceed into addressing the issue of private jets I would like to address another trendy statement


A Private Jet is Just a personal Vehicle like any other Private Car

A private jet is not necessarily or exclusively luxury like a yacht for instance. Corporations, Governments and Organizations do own it for operational purposes and a Church with significant presence in more than 20 countries should actually consider owning one depending on how centralized the leadership of the church is.

It would be unwise of Living Faith and RCCG to use commercial Air transport.

The issue of Private jets ought not to be a Controversy. If you have a local assignment then use a local means of transporation. The assignment of most Nigerians are within the country. Hence a bicycle/motorcycle would do for those in the core villages while a Car would do for those in the City. And for individuals like Oyedepo and Adeboye who have Churches to run in 65 and 193 countries then the use of private jets may just be imperative.

On my little research I discovered that Oyedepo travels about 5 times in a week and still makes it back in time for Canaanlands Sunday service. That can only be possible if the Church has a private jet. Now my own pastor was once stuck Abroad due to some issues with his booked flight hence he missed about two Sundays or so. However I am not saying my pastor needs a private jet because he only travels once in a year for his summer vacation and rarely travels for international ministrations as we do not have a branch outside Nigeria. But on the other hand RCCG owns about 700 branches in UK alone, the biggest church in East Africa is a living Faith Church. Other countries like Zambia also have huge Living Faith members. So why should a pastor of such a church not have a means to travel in a private jet.

I once saw Oyedepo at a 8:00 clock service in Landmark University in Omu Aran(via internet). So I thought did he leave Ota as early as 3AM or did he sleep over at Omu Aran? But I was told by an indigene of Omu aran that anytime there is an Helicopter hovering over town then they are sure Oyedepo is around(and he comes around Omu Aran often) so I knew he came with a Chopper that morning and left with a chopper that same morning. But imagine if he had to use a commercial airline for that. He would have to take a trip to Ikeja board an available flight to Ilorin(if they have an Airport) or Abuja and then begin a journey back to Omu Aran and hope there is an Available flight back Lagos. All that wahala for a 60 something year old man just because you want to preach in a 45 minutes service Kwara.

Five Churches that should actually buy Private Jets if they don't have.

RCCG
Living Faith
Mountain Of Fire Ministries
Christ Embassy
Deeperlife Ministeries.

Perhaps there are few global ministeries in the world that have planted Churches as much as these churches in modern Christian era and that is testament to the indispensable role that Nigerian Christendom has to play in the propagation of the gospel in the end times.
For these Churches they appear to run a very Centralized leadership and that is very good. Hence I would actually recommend the use of Private planes and Helicopters for easy conveyance of their top leadership.


On a final note RCCG as a Church is bigger than some countries (membership vs citizens) e.g Lesotho, Licheistein yet can we say that the presidency of such Nations disparages their poor by using private planes for Official purposes? If we won't, then why do we insist on assassinating the Character of these Noble pastors who never respond to people castigating them?


https://educationexplorersite./2017/11/03/why-nigerian-pastors-use-private-jets-and-a-question-to-freeze/

Lalasticlala

Pls to correct a misnomer. The catholic church does not keep private jet for the pope and does not hire one. Its is not that they can't but they don't. Leave the Pope out of ur bag of rubbish yearns

InternetGenius:
Wow this phone is powerful. I will surely get mine.

Yea but its a small fone

mrdickhead:
lol,it's like you are one of them,the ashaawoo husbands them

Like I said, who told u they were searching? Have u seen any thread where they said they were searching? Or have u seen any thread where I or others where looking for something? Na wah for some peoples

mrdickhead:
It is very hard to identify a married man in this romance section,our oga ilegend has been able to identify some married women because those married women own up.
it is not good for a married man to be dragging this babes with a single brother.
chai fear God na,you won't die if you own up

oga lefulefu
what do you have to say about this,seriously we need to know how many we are

Hilarious! Who told u they were searching

A stupid story I dont even know what to comment

drnoel:
I said it

The next person that gives a like, I will insult all ya generation.

TsaTrinity:
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Just imagine. Even this one got a like. Oshii

drnoel:
OP u are a scoundrel. U can now give me a like under

I said it

Only fools here, really. Before u know it this silly thread will reach 1000 pages

OP u are a scoundrel. U can now give me a like under

Am sure the OP will just give likes just so he won't pay that 1500

speaktome:
Just want to show how far I have gone with a 100 Metric tons per day capacity fully automated system palm kernel oil extracting factory project I go through Nairalander.

90% of the projects I have been handling comes from Nairaland!!!



Seun, Lalasticlala take note, you must be on the High table the day we will be commissioning the project in Edo State



Lalasticlala Abeg tel the world...

Wonderful project. Curious to know if you also intent to be extracting palm oil too.

Am new to the word Catholic evangelist cos it doesn't exist. There are not evangelists in the Catholic church. Anyways ur hiding ur ID says it all. Story is not believable.

obailala:
When the issue was reported few days ago, I pointed out that it was simply an error in speech which would certainly be clarified after the backlash of his goof gets to his ears. Just like I said, the issue has now been clarified, he meant N2bn not $2bn; and that should have been common sense for any discerning mind especially when you consider that the entire bridge project itself is roughly just $300million.

You are obviously ignorant of the meaning of the word 'hypocrisy' which you spew about; people just learn a new word and throw it about without having a clue what it means.

Oh, then I stand corrected. Didn't get the reportage on the change in price. If u have link please post it lets all learn from it. Thanx

obailala:
Saying that $2billion had been released for a project which everyone knows doesnt even cost up to $300million, only an unsmart person would not instantly realise that it was just an error in his speech, but would rather go about masturbating over a non-issue.

Cc: Thandiubani

Error in speech? U really are a hypocrite. Has he so far corrected this error in speech? Has he given a contrary view and begged not to be misunderstood? Does he not have handlers, advisers? Hypocrisy does beget some people really.

Thandiubani:
On Friday while campaigning for the All Progressives Congress governorship candidate in Anambra state, Vice President Yemi Osinbajo made a bogus claim that the President Muhammadu Buhari-led government through Nigeria's Sovereign Wealth Fund paid a whopping $2billion for the Second Niger Bridge.

Here are the facts:
The Second Niger Bridge was awarded to Julius Berger in 2014 by former President Goodluck Jonathan at the cost of N177 billion. The contract was based on a Public-Private Partnership arrangement.

Julius Berger‎ is to work on the project on the basis of Design, Build, Finance, Operate and Transfer (DBFOT), at a total cost of N108 billion. The money was reduced from an initial cost of N138 billion down to N108 billion by the Bureau of Public Procurement (BPP).

The Federal Government is to contribute N30 billion (28%) of the project cost. The remaining 72% will be raised by Julius Berger.

The project, which is divided into three phases, will bypass Onitsha and Asaba to connect the Owerri-Onitsha Expressway at Nkwerre-Ezunaka, and then cross Atani to the Asaba-Benin Expressway at Okpanam with a total length of 44 kilometres.

Note that the entire Second Niger Bridge project is to cost N108 billion after the review by the BPP.

Osinbajo's claim
"In fact, I am being reminded that just two days ago, the Sovereign Wealth Fund paid$2billion for that same project [Second Niger Bridge ]. So we will definitely see our Second Niger Bridge. We will not make promises we cannot keep.” VP Osinbajo said on Friday in Anambra.

The claim by Osinbajo is not just false, but also very deceptive. It can best be described as a political statement meant to deceive those clamouring for the construction of a bridge that was awarded in 2014 which has now become a subject for political campaigns.

First and foremost, there is no way $2billion translating to N712 billion can be spent on a project that was awarded for N108 billion. If we are to go by Osinbajo's statement, it means that the project will gulp an additional N604 billion apart from the contracted amount.

It is either Osinbajo didn't know what he was saying or he intentionally decided to mislead Nigerians on national television to create the impression that the Buhari-led government has the interest of people from the region at heart.

Another fact:
As at September 2017, Nigeria’s Sovereign Wealth fund stood at $2billion, according to the Managing Director and Chief Executive Officer, CEO, of the Nigerian Sovereign Investment Authority, NSIA, Uche Orji in a report by Bloomberg.

So, it is preposterous to say that the government released $2billion for the Second Niger Bridge which is the exact amount in the SWF account.

In June 2017, the Chairman Committee on Media and Publicity in the House of Representatives, Rep. Abdulrazak Namdas revealed that the Minister of Works, Housing and Power, Mr. Babatunde Fashola refused to spend a Kobo out of N12 billion appropriated for the Second Niger Bridge in the 2016 budget.

Conclusion
It is clear that Osinbajo's statement is absolutely false. It should be disregarded. Three years since the contract was awarded by Jonathan's administration after boasting to complete the bridge in 48 months, the completion of the bridge seems far-fetched.

‎The reality at hand shows that the bridge may likely be completed in 2020, according to Orji.

-Alexander Thandi Ubani is an Editor at tori.ng
thandiubani@yahoo.com

Source: http://www.tori.ng/news/77615/fact-check-osinbajo-claims-2-billion-paid-for-seco.html

Well said. I had some respect for Osibanjo which I have slowly lost. I mean, when u make political statement, dont play with people's lives.
That he outrightly lied is preposterous but then our journalists will not question them. We really have junk journalism in naija.

Aonkuuse:
Bro men of God nowadays thinks they have reach the peak of spirituality but don't worry they will be surprise on the day of judgment. The same thing in Catholic churches, a man will leave his brother at home which he has wronged to come and confess in church for him to be prayed for. If you are confessing for a reverend father to pray for you then who is the reverend father confessing to, to be prayed for. Or reverend fathers no de sin?

Reverend fathers confess to reverend fathers who confess to themselves. Ur comment was not well thought of and spews of hypocrisy and ignorance cos u wanted to attack the church which u knew nothing about.
The topic though is very important and matured. I have no scruples telling them, pastors and priests when I feel they are wrong. Its one thing to be an adult and listen, its another thing to feel pompous and not. Who looses, the person that is being adviced and failed to learn nothing. No one knows it all. No one holy pass.

dareenglish:
I am writing this in reaction after reading about the NDA guy who found out his girl was cheating after smelling condom on her.

A few months ago, my friend Tade(not real name ),called me , it was late a night and he was hysterical over the phone, I didn’t understand what he was saying at all, he ended by saying he was coming over. So how gets here and am surprised because this guy would never leave his house after 8:30pm. He just blurted out to me that he was HIV positive., that “she “ gave it to him, I was already giving him the usual distance one gives to a diseased animal. I thought my guy don go play away match. But then he said its shade oh, I found it hard to believe him.i mean I know the girl{she’s the standard to which I hold all girls to, if a girl can beat that she’s fucking awesome.}

Tade narrated how he started feeling pains while urinating, so he want to the hospital and the doc started asking him if he was having sex regularly, he said yes and, long story short he had gonorrhea and chlamydia. The also asked him to go for an AIDS test which he did and behold POSITIVE. He had never cheated on his girl in the 6 years the dated, even the first 3 that she denied him sex claiming virgin, tho she was actually a virgin when he finally enter the place. The have marriage plans together, they share atm cards, they are basically married in all sense but the word.

When he got back, he confronted his girl and of course she denied, then the test results came out except anything to do with aids.

She started to tell him about one guy she visited, that it was only a few times the had sex, she later told him that a friend of hers she visited, Tade lost it here, he wanted to kill her, beat her, he didn’t wait to hear the rest and that’s y he came to my place so as not to do anything he will regret to shade.

I remember him crying saying again and again” she has killed me, after all the love, 7 years, she literary killed me,” he even laughed then cried again. I dint cheat on her once in 7 years, do you know how hard that is, even when a friend brought it I didn’t Bleep.

Tade started saying how he should have killed her there and then, that he wants to hurt her bad, I calmed him down, told him to chill, that there r worst things to do to a girl.

It took a while but I told him we will deal with her so I put down a plan for him to forget hitting or beating her and just destroy her life, sleep with her friends and her little sister p.s the sister has a boyfriend too. Now this sobered him up, he said he was going to hunt any lady that had a boyfriend he will Bleep her and share the “blessing “his girl gave him. Tade is not a ja boy{bad ladies guy} so I didn’t see his good chances of success with this. But his body count these days is mad, he hits girls with b.f without condoms, others he takes it off when the girl is enjoying the shit.

He also nailed the little sister VERY WELL. I have pics sef.
And shade probably does know shes a carrier, I doubt she did an hiv test.

Anyways to guys out there be careful, I have begged tade to stop but his vendetta is crazy, he nails upto 3 different girls a week, including married women and especially girls with boyfriends. He sends me pics sometimes.

Guys if your not sure of the girl ditch her oh, condom dey burst anytime. There’s a nairalander who found out the hard way.

Girls who cheat around are probably distributing “blessings”

I feel bad for not advising Tade to just beat shade to a pulp now the matter has become something else.
Girls be faithful, this might just save your life oh, guys don’t humor bitches, dispose of her, you might think you are slaying a slay queen, it might just be you humping a bad of diseases.

No matter how bad a situation is. Two wrongs never make a right. Ur advice was costly. Imagine ur sister, ur niece, ur aunty meeting such a person as ur friend? The reason why, when u advice on vendetta, always consider ur relative being across the crosspine.

libertyhope2017:
Typical afonja, an mention of Igbo in a positive light, they rear their ugly heads, using red herring to undermine the news. See as him take style include Ibibio. Shameless people with inordinate envy for Igbos

U really be idiot I swear. Not every person that rebukes falsehood is yoruba. Last I checked my dad was igbo, what does that make me? I doubt u are igbo but if u really are then I have this to say, Igbos with ur mindset are problems for the rest.

contactmorak:
She has an impressive backside

See all the photos here>> http://m.af1234.com/Af1234/details/kenyan-female-lawmaker-kicked-out-of-the-assembly-over-indecent-dressing

How did u see the backside? U see pix of front, u are talking of backside

Josephjnr:
There are things greater than mere religious belief.

Bruh, same reason those northerners will remain backwards.

Inova:
Keep Waiting

It'd come faster than u realise.

hatchy:
Nnamdi Kanu messed up the opportunity he had pursuing personal agenda of making himself a demi god than pursuing the Biafra agenda through diplomatic means,even though Biafra is not totally achieved, there should have been restructuring and renegotiated Nigeria based on equality and social and economic justice to the South East.

He's gone into hiding instead of standing his ground as he boasted.
Nothing can reverse that proscription and the terrorist tag on Ipob no matter the pressure from any country because this is our way of preserving our country
from break up.

Careful, its not done yet.

MhizzAJ:
Jesus is Lord

For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son that whosoever believes on him should not perish but have ever lasting life..John 3:16.

FortifiedCity have u accepted Jesus as your personal Lord and Saviour? That's the only way to be free from God's wrath

U sound like a broken record

erico2k2:
U can only be my elder if you are 50 years old
if you are indeed 50 and u are still a f*ol at 50 then you are a f*ol for ever !

Yes u are correct. Fo*lish enof to still be replying u, though only cos I thought I could dave u from ur own fo*lishness. We are all fo*ls, u most of all. I will inform ur father what sort of son he has. I won't reply ur stupidity anymore. Cheers

Cladez:
I could vivdly remember when Buhari made that "other room " statement, people were too quick to tag him a chauvinist.

Now the truth is staring at them.

Find out who her husband or father is. U will understand that people where not wrong to tag him that

erico2k2:
My father is very proud of me, last time I saw him guess what, he was praying for me, shame same cant be said about yours!

Good for u. Just ask him to teach u how to respect ur elders. Cheers

erico2k2:
Oga go jump inside suckway pit where you and your lot belong

Pix u posted talks about ur lack of sense. Ur father should be ashamed

schoolboij:
do you have a brain? did the government send her to UK? why can't she come on her own?

Ur comment, ur opinion however myopic and ignorant it sounds. Get a life