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Yield: You're jumping ship here. Before she can stay away from Any RELATIONSHIP, she needs to let go of this 23-year old first. How can you advice her to stay away from any relationship when she's having a hard time leaving the one she's in right now? First thing first. Initially, you said her leaving him is "not a good option", now you're saying something entirely different. Why're you hopping about? And did you not read what I wrote? "Her life is just getting started and this's the time for her to make wise decisions" By that I wasn't merely talking about decisons pertaining to relationships, but decisons that would benefit her in the future and that includes her education. Her choices are all up to her. You can only advice someone here and it's up to them to take what they want out of it. She needs to leave this dude first and thereafter, if she wants to stay away from relationships and focus on her life, that is up to her. Again, first thing first.

Oh, I thought they've been dating for 6years, that's why I said leaving him for such thing was not a good option.


Don't know what's really wrong with all these virgin girls, if you can't give up your virginity,why not wait till you ready for marriage. Imaging at 18yrs, she expected 23yrs old guy to be waiting for that night(probably in d next 5/6yrs or more). The truth is that, only a few religious guys does that nowadays. Also, men in their 20's don't normally dates girls bellow 20 for a serious relationship.

Finally, I will advise her to stay away from him,at least for now.

Yield: Tried wetin?? They've been dating for 6 months, not 6 years!! Please reread the post again.

Leaving him is not a good option? Because?

Would you give your 18-year old daughter or female relative the same advice? To stay with a guy who tells her:
-He won't be able to love her without s.ex? And
-Without s.ex, they will not work?
-That instead of r.aping her, he with give her a sleeping pill? His reasoning's very, very st-upid, as he would still be committing the same crime. Justifying one bad act with another bad one! The Idi-ot! The fact that he even had the audacity to open his mouth to tell her this means he does not love her.

If the next guy she meets also demands sex, then she should do the same and tell him BYE BYE. A man who loves and respects her will not pressure her to do something she's not ready to do, simple! She even says she feels like he's going to r-ape her when they're together because of his pressures. And you're saying leaving him is not a good option for her, ehn? She's 18 years old. The last thing she needs at that age is a nuisance like him. Her life is just getting started and this's the time for her to make wise decisions, not ones she will regret.

Thanks, I tot she wrote six years.

As a lady,I expect you to advise this young girl to simply stay away from any relationship and focus on her studies. Since she was not ready to give up her virginity,I will advise her to stay away from any form of relationship until she mature enough to handle a relationship . I'm sure you're a mature lady,let be sincere with ourselves, majority of men these days will demand for sex most especially if the girl is sexy/beautiful. Men have realized that you ladies don't know what you really wants and can leave us the moment you get someone who's richer than us. As a result,men choose/prefer to enjoy ur comfort zone before you run.

She was even so lucky that the guy reveal what's in his mind to her. What if he had gave her a sleeping pill and do the thing.

Yield: Tried wetin?? They've been dating for 6 months, not 6 years!! Please reread the post again.

Leaving him is not a good option? Because?

Would you give your 18-year old daughter or female relative the same advice? To stay with a guy who tells her:
-He won't be able to love her without s.ex? And
-Without s.ex, they will not work?
-That instead of r.aping her, he with give her a sleeping pill? His reasoning's very, very st-upid, as he would still be committing the same crime. Justifying one bad act with another bad one! The Idi-ot! The fact that he even had the audacity to open his mouth to tell her this means he does not love her.

If the next guy she meets also demands sex, then she should do the same and tell him BYE BYE. A man who loves and respects her will not pressure her to do something she's not ready to do, simple! She even says she feels like he's going to r-ape her when they're together because of his pressures. And you're saying leaving him is not a good option for her, ehn? She's 18 years old. The last thing she needs at that age is a nuisance like him. Her life is just getting started and this's the time for her to make wise decisions, not ones she will regret.

Thanks, I tot she wrote six years.

As a lady,I expect you to advise this young girl to simply stay away from any relationship and focus on her studies. Since she was not ready to give up her virginity,I will advise her to stay away from any form of relationship until she mature enough to handle a relationship . I'm sure you're a mature lady,let be sincere with ourselves, majority of men these days will demand for sex most especially if the girl is sexy/beautiful. Men have realized that you ladies don't know what you really wants and can leave us the moment you get someone who's richer than us. As a result,men choose/prefer to enjoy ur comfort zone before you run.

She was even so lucky that the guy reveal what's in his mind to her. What if he had gave her a sleeping pill and do the thing.

Yield: Tried wetin?? They've been dating for 6 months, not 6 years!! Please reread the post again.

Leaving him is not a good option? Because?

Would you give your 18-year old daughter or female relative the same advice? To stay with a guy who tells her:
-He won't be able to love her without s.ex? And
-Without s.ex, they will not work?
-That instead of r.aping her, he with give her a sleeping pill? His reasoning's very, very st-upid, as he would still be committing the same crime. Justifying one bad act with another bad one! The Idi-ot! The fact that he even had the audacity to open his mouth to tell her this means he does not love her.

If the next guy she meets also demands sex, then she should do the same and tell him BYE BYE. A man who loves and respects her will not pressure her to do something she's not ready to do, simple! She even says she feels like he's going to r-ape her when they're together because of his pressures. And you're saying leaving him is not a good option for her, ehn? She's 18 years old. The last thing she needs at that age is a nuisance like him. Her life is just getting started and this's the time for her to make wise decisions, not ones she will regret.

Thanks, I tot she wrote six years.

As a lady,I expect you to advise this young girl to simply stay away from any relationship and focus on her studies. Since she was not ready to give up her virginity,I will advise her to stay away from any form of relationship until she mature enough to handle a relationship . I'm sure you're a mature lady,let be sincere with ourselves, majority of men these days will demand for sex most especially if the girl is sexy/beautiful. Men have realized that you ladies don't know what you really wants and can leave us the moment you get someone who's richer than us. As a result,men choose/prefer to enjoy ur comfort zone before you run.

She was even so lucky that the guy reveal what's in his mind to her. What if he had gave her a sleeping pill and do the thing.

@op, what of if you leave him and the next guys you meet are also demanding for sex, what will you do then?

I don't says you should sleep with him but leaving him for such a thing is not a good option for you.

chiteny: Perfect. Thanks for the clarification. For those paid gold and silver for their services how do they pay tithe?

Since I was not there, I assumed they took 10% of the total Gold or Silva received to God.

chiteny: Can you give any reference whatsoever that these guys paid tithes in gold and silver or any non agrarian produce? No such thing like trade by barter dear. Deut 14:22-25 summarizes as follows:
Bring 10% of your agric. produce to God. If the place he appoints is too far, convert the produce to money (to reduce the stress of transporting large agric produce over long distance) and then convert the money to produce or anything eatable or drinkable u like when u get to the appointed place to redeem your tithe.

This passage has nothing to do with bricklayers paying money or doing trade by barter to pay tithe. Pls re-read that passage. Pls dont forget verse 26.

You misunderstood my post. What I was saying is that, those Bricklayers,Carpenters or Goldsmiths,got paid by the means of "trade by barter" and not by paper's money as you initially claimed. Eg Gold,silva,crops, animals etc.

The bible verses that followed was a respond to the questions asked by you. Please check your previous posts.

solbil: its exactly what i am trying to say. THE REASON MEN DO NOT TURN DOWN SEX IS BECOS; THE SOCIETY HAS TOLD THEM TO BE OUTGOING WHEN IT COMES TO SEX. SO THEY DONT BOTHER TO CONTAIN THE URGE WHEN IT COMES. If niit for the orientaion the society has given to the ladies, they would have been in the shoes of men today. And it is changing. Women are becoming more open when it comes to sexuality.

You needs more knowledge man. Inability of the men to turn down sex is innate and not what society dictates. The urge for sex in men is so strong that every men,irrespective of stutus can fall for it.

chiteny: D sage, even in the so called "Agrarian" economy, people still were engaged in other profession and made lots of physical cash from their services/skills. Except you want to tell me that there were no carpenters, bricklayers, goldsmiths, jesters, etc who got paid money directly for their services. So the question to you is this, why did God not command these people to pay up their tithes (10% of their income) as well? God is not foolish. He had a reason for that and they were stated in the same passages where he told them how to tithe. Good enough you said "i think tithe should......" There is no biblical proof to this assertion. The only thing that gets me all worked up is that the pastors tell you this is what God says instead of what they think about the situation.

I for one (and some others i have met) give more than the so called tithers. I don't base my giving to the church or God's ministry on 10% (and yes i give to the church or pastor, but based on my conviction and not on coercion). I personally fancy giving to a course i can see how my "hard earned" money is being utilized like to give directly in kind or cash to widows, orphanage homes, flood victims, strangers in need, etc. I know they need my "hard earned money" more than the pastors, as they are usually forgotten in today's modern christian religious practices.

Sorry i wrote so much. was writing as it came to my mind.

Although there were carpenters, Bricklayers and Goldsmith then, but their major occupation was plantation or animals rearing. And these people you're trying to refers to, were paying in form of Gold,silva,crops,animals etc (trade barter).

As for you questions, Deut 14:22-25.

bilms: result: acn, 287, pdp,296, lp, 420

The result is not too bad for the Mimiko's opponents.

dahonestboss: impotency is not a choice, its just a misfortune. impotent people want to marry and live a good life, but circumstances might prevent them. and there is also no medically proven method for p.enis enlargement.

Who says p.enis cannot be enlarge?

Honestly she has a point. But the questions is that, can impotent man even thought of getting married in the first place? Can't erectile dysfunction be care or a small penis be enlarged?

ayo jango: What do u discuss wit d girls politics or football, ur post sounds so boring.u knew u had a GF yet u wanted dem to fall for yu.

Y let ur girl decide ur DP. U no b player abeg. Mallam mugu

What if they fall for me? Or where did you read in my previous posts that I asked them out?

As for my GF,do you think I'm that dumb to allow her deciding my dp? She's been accusing me of cheating on her before, so if I don't allow her that moment, she would definitely think otherwise. I've already inbox her on facebook this evening and I hope she reply me when she read it. Not that I wants her back on my bbm but just like to say sorry if I actually hurt her feelings toward me.

Cleanman: SANYERI IS the most funniest dude i've ever seen on Tv...only his expressions gets me cracked up even before he opens his mouth to speak...non yoruba guys wont understand cos the subtitling wont tell u much.

Honestly, looking at SANYERI alone make laugh.

@Ranoscky and MRbrownJAY. Though I told them I was not yet married but don't expect them to believes that a full grow man like me would not have at least a GF.

I don't normally care if someone delete/ignore me but these ladies are different. They are intelligent,classic and very fun to chat with. We gained a lot from each other through chatting,especially the one that deleted me.

berylLOL: and even if she deleted u cos of sumthn else how are we to know?

I don't think I did sth wrong to them before and that was why I beliv it's because of dp.

carefreewannabe: I bet ...

And to be honest, they did the right thing!

Right what? Remember they are just friends and not real GF.

carefreewannabe: what's wrong with you?

Nothing! Just don't know whether she deleted me cos of dp or sth else.

Although I had many female friends on my bbm but used to chat with these two girls almost everyday. At times, we engaged in romantic/sexual chats to d extent that I knew they might had actually fall in love with me.

On saturday,my GF visited me and put one of our romantic pic we took together at d beach in my dp. Actually we were kissing in that pic but guess what.

To my utmost surprise,one of them deleted me yesterday and d other one doesn't replies as before.

Please guys, hav u ever being deleted or ignored over the same matter before? I don't really understand these girls cos it's strange to me.

@op, for ur friend wife to ask u something like a car,i suspect you guys must be very close or she really wants u to do her. well it depend on your friend(her husband) if u know he's reasonable person of course u can buy it for her. But if not my friend,run for ur life.

@ifyalways,

See madam, it's not just about the kind of course or GPA you had that would guarantee jobs these days. The fact is that, demand is greater than supply ie(more graduates were produced every year with limited or very few available jobs).

You're talking about professional course,I laugh. Do you aware that thousands of people out there has their master degree,ICAN etc and yet still find it difficult to get a job? Whereas I know some people who recently secured a good jobs with HND and B.sc certificate respective.

lanreni: consider a graduate's story of hussling from day one he leaves school. from one promise to another,from test to test,from interview to interview with no success.even offering to work for free,but to no avail.before he realizes,years roll by.what can he do?.quit job seeking,go into business fully? are they companies/recruiting firms willing to give such a person a trial in Nigeria? consider his financial position at this time.please i need your candid opinion,suggestion and information if any.

That is what happen when one think his/her paper certificate is enough to be successful in life.

My brother don't panic,there's still a hope for you. Since you can't find white collar job,then you have three options;

1. You acquire a vocational skill
2. You go into the business.
3. Farming.

The choice is your because as a man you can't continue searching for what's not available.

JakeLouboutin: Hello mates, Please I'm an undergraduate. I need advice & suggestions on which country one can easily go to school & also study in europe. Give me reasons for your suggestions. Thanks a lot brothers.

Why do you think traveling abroad is the best option? Beside you still an undergraduate,which mean you might probably wants to finish your degree.

If you have enough cash in your account, you can apply to study in UK or switzerland.

What message you are trying to pass across please?

bisikeys: I just pray this coach gets it right. After over a year, we still don't have a first team and we have played over 10 matches plus friendlies. Him talk say na home base players go plenty for him team but look now, na foreign based players plenty pass. I knew he was joking... Have u ever been to the training facilities of an English team? They are better and more standard than our main football pitches. U need to see the one at Camp Nou.......The day i saw it, i felt like playing soccer. Even Amodu had something going for him. He had a Plan B. Look at most of Amodu's matches, when we were down, either Kanu or Obinna come in to make the difference. But now, my coach has turned the national team to a joke. We are playing with no brand no class. We don't even have a starting formation. Compared to Siasia, i have to say we have gone backward in our football. During Siasia's time, at least we were playing some really exicting football that showed promise. Now we are just playing like secondary school children........................ May God help us. One question..... IF KESHI FAILS, WHO DO WE HIRE?

Foreign coach. But if that would be too expensive for NFF,then they should go back to AMODU SHUAB.

bisikeys: I just pray this coach gets it right. After over a year, we still don't have a first team and we have played over 10 matches plus friendlies. Him talk say na home base players go plenty for him team but look now, na foreign based players plenty pass. I knew he was joking... Have u ever been to the training facilities of an English team? They are better and more standard than our main football pitches. U need to see the one at Camp Nou.......The day i saw it, i felt like playing soccer. Even Amodu had something going for him. He had a Plan B. Look at most of Amodu's matches, when we were down, either Kanu or Obinna come in to make the difference. But now, my coach has turned the national team to a joke. We are playing with no brand no class. We don't even have a starting formation. Compared to Siasia, i have to say we have gone backward in our football. During Siasia's time, at least we were playing some really exicting football that showed promise. Now we are just playing like secondary school children........................ May God help us. One question..... IF KESHI FAILS, WHO DO WE HIRE?

Foreign coach. But if that would be too expensive for NFF,then they should go back to AMODU SHUAB.

Goshen360: 1. The bible makes it eternally clear that "money" existed from Genesis BUT our God was very specific and NEVER commanded tithe to be taken from money.....how then do you tell God's people they should bring tithe from "money"

2. Thank God it is YOUR OWN PERSONAL VIEW, NOT GOD's OR BIBLICAL VIEW.



Hebrews 7 is the answer. We/I didn't just come to that conclusion.

Hmmmmm, ****SIGH****

Goshen360: Good kweshion. There is NOTHING like willingness IN THE COMMANDMENT OF TITHING - YOU MUST BRING IT. However, there is willingness in Giving and that goes beyond tithing which is according to specific percentage. When you talk about tithe, you specifically talk about "crops and animals". When you talk about giving, then you talk about ANYTHING and that can include money. God is wise to change the law from tithing to giving.

Sir, like I said earlier in this thread,we are no longer in agrarian society,so tithe in my own personal view should be given in form of money. Beside, how do you arrived into the conclusion that God has changed the laws from tithing to giving?

Most of you guys especially Goshen360 are so stingy with money.

The reasons behind this thread is unwillingness of op and his friends on this thread to release/pay 10% of their hard earned money to church/ God ministry.

Goshen360: Let's begin to put your statement under the lens of the word and allow scripture to validate it.....

New Living Translation (©2007)
When God speaks of a "new" covenant, it means he has made the first one obsolete. It is now out of date and will soon disappear.

King James 2000 Bible (©2003)
In that he says, A new covenant, he has made the first old. Now that which decays and grows old is ready to vanish away.................Hebrews 8:13

Does your statement, "Whatever! Scripture is scripture whether old or new testerment" validate in the face of Hebrews 8:13 OR does it validate in the face of the second witness am calling to testify against you,

New International Version (©1984)
He has made us competent as ministers of a new covenant--not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life. II Corinthians 3:16



Backing it up with scriptural verses doesn't make it sound doctrine. If in truth it is, they should have also taught the church members this scriptures,

New Living Translation (©2007)
"You must set aside a tithe of your crops--one-tenth of all the crops you harvest each year. Deuteronomy 14:22

OR

New International Version (©1984)
Eat the tithe of your grain, new wine and oil, and the firstborn of your herds and flocks in the presence of the LORD your God at the place he will choose as a dwelling for his Name, so that you may learn to revere the LORD your God always.

New Living Translation (©2007)
Bring this tithe to the designated place of worship--the place the LORD your God chooses for his name to be honored--and eat it there in his presence. This applies to your tithes of grain, new wine, olive oil, and the firstborn males of your flocks and herds. Doing this will teach you always to fear the LORD your God. Deuteronomy 14:23



Tithe as it is in scriptures is.....as COMMANDED, NOT as CONVENIENT sir.

The phrase "when convenient" as it was used in my previous post, indicates that church members shouldn't be intimidated as regards to tithe paying. Now my question to you;

Base on the numerous bible verses you have already quoted here,in your own view, should the churches continue to collect tithe from willing members or just look elsewhere for the money to finance the ministries/institutions of God?

frosbel: and what about :

" And thou shalt bestow that money for whatsoever thy soul lusteth after, for oxen, or for sheep, or for wine, or for strong drink, or for whatsoever thy soul desireth: and thou shalt eat there before the Lord thy God, and thou shalt rejoice, thou, and thine household " - Deuteronomy 14:26

What are you trying to prove by above writeup please?

Though,i agree that some pastors used the bible verses to exploit their congregation but that doesn't negate the validity of the tithe.

Pastor Kun: The book of leviticus is addressed to the children of Israel and NOT christians as christians are not under the law. That aside the tithes written about in Leviticus is agricultural produce which is totally different from the man made monetary version being preached today.

Since we are no longer in Agrarian society, I think tithe should be measure/paid in term/form of money.