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Romans 8: 35-39

Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? Shall trouble or hardship or persecution or famine or unclothedness or danger or sword? As it is written:
   "For your sake we face death all day long;
      we are considered as sheep to be slaughtered."
No, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him who loved us. For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.


Neither money nor lack of it can seperate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord

Romans 8: 35-39

Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? Shall trouble or hardship or persecution or famine or unclothedness or danger or sword? As it is written:
   "For your sake we face death all day long;
      we are considered as sheep to be slaughtered."
No, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him who loved us. For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

I think we should model our lives after this pattern:

Phillipians 4: 11- 13

Not that I speak in respect of want: for I have learned, in whatsoever state I am, therewith to be content.

I know both how to be abased, and I know how to abound: every where and in all things I am instructed both to be full and to be hungry, both to abound and to suffer need.

I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.

Missy B:
I am stil finding it difficult to comprehend what your
arguement is about.In one sentence could you tell me
what your point is?

First, I'm not here to argue so I dont have any argument here.
Second, i dont have to add anything to what I wrote there. If you have specific questions with regards to what I wrote, you should ask them.

Thank you

$$Rhino:
If the money was made iin a genuine way, who do u blame that the other guy has no money in his account.
i am not an advocate of laziness and neither am i telling you that brother shdnt help one another, however, please stop this nonesensical idea of "it is wrong to be rich" without money,even the gospel can't be preached.

I have never been one to say that it's worng to be rich. However i dont subscribe to the substitution of materialism for christianity. Christ did not call me into materialism but into freedom through Spirit. I dont care about what anybody has but I dont like anyone telling people that if they are believers, they cannot have needs.

Laziness is a different matter; the bible is clear on that.

$$Rhino:
I agree with you, that it is not just about material, but with so much other stuff added to it, the dsciple said, Silver and Gold i have not, because they don't have it, but even Jesus made a fish to give money, heaven we have been told is street of gold, so God will never want us to be poor, the bible said, the wealth of the unbleivers will be given to the faithful ones, so what are you talking about.
Laziness is one of the reasons why some christians are poor, like when some ought to be at office, they will be at achurch, and the bible says, the hands that doesnt eat, should not eat.

The fact that Jesus did not have an abundance of money locked up somewhere should be instructive. God will always provide for our needs without our greed.

Heaven is golden. . .heaven was created by God to be that way and we seek to go to heaven. Do we want to take over the power of creation from God by trying to create heaven on earth? or do we want to make the world our own heaven?
This world is not my heaven. Thank God Almighty I can look forward to heaven without thinking that I'm already in heaven in the midst of this corrupt world

God is more than able to provide for every one of our needs. However, we are always jumping to do things for ourselves and we have allowed greed to creep into the church. Why would someone have several millions in his account while his brother hardly has enough to feed or clothe himself?  

Is the Faith all about materialism?

The book of Acts should be our guide because that should set an example as to how we need to conduct ourselves as Christians.

Acts 3: 6 -

Then Peter said, "Silver or gold I do not have, but what I have I give you. In the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, walk."

Acts 2: 42 - 47

They devoted themselves to the apostles' teaching and to the fellowship, to the breaking of bread and to prayer. Everyone was filled with awe, and many wonders and miraculous signs were done by the apostles. All the believers were together and had everything in common. Selling their possessions and goods, they gave to anyone as he had need. Every day they continued to meet together in the temple courts. They broke bread in their homes and ate together with glad and sincere hearts, praising God and enjoying the favor of all the people. And the Lord added to their number daily those who were being saved.

What do you consider to be poverty?

Next time a policeman tries to frisk you, you know what he's actually doing

good arument going on here. Clearly RichyBlack is winning it.

However, could you both please cut off the insults.

Thanks

@ nuzo
Do you know anything that Toksy contributed in his time at the Senate except to become a multi-millionaire? Do you also know anything that he has done since becoming commissioner except to help with the purchase of the hotel (which I am sure will be dysfunstional)?

onyinye2:
HELL YEAH!!!!! all those who fall for Nigerian scams are greedy as hell. I remember one lady in houston left her five kids at home to marry some Nigerian man who told her to send 200,000 dollars so he could make the wedding arrangements. Of course when she came, the man was gone. And CPS took her kids.

That is why when i watch "I go chop you dollar" by Nkem Owoh with what some of what he says and laugh.

Is this not stupidity or at best her ploy to use and manipulate a guy she thought might help her out of her own loneliness?

She should be charged for stupidity or attempt to take advantage of a downtrodden man

There's nothing unusual about this. It happens in kost industries and in almost every country. If you're in a sales job, you have targets to hit and if you consistently fail to hit your targets, how do you expect the company to continue to fund your position?

It's a tough and harsh world

@Lepashadi, calm down o. I also studied in Scotland and I'm not ready to go back to naija yet. Some people will go back but not everyone is ready to go back. Everyone is at a different stage in their lives.
My wife wanted us to stay in naija but she decided that we should stay here after being in naija for only 3 months and seeing the way things are done there. Let's face it, it things are good nobody needs to be told to return to their country.

If Governor will not be too busy enforcing Chairmen on Councils and will rather put proper infrasctrucures in place, people will start returning home.

i'm used to jumping in the car at any time of the day or night; why would I want to go to live in a place where I will start living like a prisoner just for fear of armed robbers? or a place where I need generators to power electricity? let's be realistic; if you are used to driving BMW, you're not likely to enjoy driving a banger suddenly and you are not likely to make a conscious decision to dump your BMW and get a banger.

@OLAADEGBU, I like that and it's very relevant especially in western societies where there is concerted effort to try and suppress the truth of God's word

Respect is earned and Nigeria has surely not earned respect in the international community. However, there are times when you demand respect just because it might prop you up a little more. Nigerians never demand respect because they always throw themselves down and believe they should always be bottom of the pile in everything.

If you believe you are always supposed to be bottom of the pile, you're never likely to lift yourself out of it.

It's time we start demanding a little respect; hopefully we'll want to live up to what we are demanding and therefore change our ways

@Paulipopo, I see you have a grouse against Pastor Chris Oyakhilome.

Do you have any evidence that miracles performed at his gatherings are not veriafiable?

I understand, and agree with, your point about not just seeking miracles but actually seeking God. However, I dont agree that publicing anything done in God's name is against the word of God. We are actually to go and publish/spread it

God's word is clear on this.
Why should any man want trouble in his life by having more than one wife anyway? it's nothing short of stupidity to decide to have more than one wife, except if you dont want to love the women wholeheartedly. You cant love more than one person wholeheartedly

no mind the ex-poms jare. that's why she wants to go to Nigeria to try and find a man to marry. she is a nutcase.
No Nigerian will have her as soon as they find out what she is

of course your life is on the computer where you hope to find a naija man who may help you out of your misery.

kryptix:
dudu-bobo
hahhahhahahahhahahhahahahh for u being so stupid
i work with people like u. i send people like u to jail.
i defend the rights of those that cannot defend themselves;children,elderly,sick.
i take offense when someone thinks that molestation is just a joke.
where am from, we take it seriously, and for the rest of your life, u would have been be a registered sex offender--u can't work or live near kids. (where is that on the planet earth?)
it hits a nerve when u or anybody thinks that child molester or a rapist should go free whereas the child or the person being raped has to go through emotional trauma.
nobody should kill anybody,but there are d/f ways that u could deal with a child molester or a rapist.
in naija, they would probably bail themselves out of the prisons and live a normal live. that is when the jungle justice comes in.
am all out for that jungle justice in naija. but for another country that i know that they will pay the ultimate price, hand them over to the authorities.

as for dudu-bobo
i live,drink, sleep computer because it is my job.
i can't survive without it
don't just open your rat-hole for anything that comes out of it because it will get u into trouble someday in this life.
children are God's gift, please don't mess them up.they are just too innocent.
there is a God that watches over kids and elderly specifically.

when you have found out what your own rights are, you can start fighting for them and for your children in your struggle against their enstraged fathers. All the you have used in your past will cry against you before God. . . any wonder your life is so miserable?
Read your posts again. . . do they not show the incoherence and mish mash that your brain is?

Go back to your shrink as you are yet to recover from the visions of your past and they still haunt you everytime you see your children from different men.

kryptix:
dudu-bobo
u wish.
u have such a low and a little mentality.
thank God that am not even looking because i would rather die before marrying a naija.
my kids can feed u and your family
and my hubby can feed your entire state and give u a better paying job.

you will die in your misery and depression.
You mindset is very obvious to all and sundry. You think that your fatherless children's earnings concern anybody. No naija will marry you anyway. Naija men are too smart to be taken in by any nonsense from an ex-poms. If your children are richer than my state and my country, please tell them to buy you peace and joy for your miserable life. bloody depressed and psychotic loser

Some are on the way home. . .

UK Asylum Statistics: 2nd Quarter (April/May June ) 2008


Control of Immigration: quarterly statistical summary, UK April 2008 - June 2008
http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/rds/immigration-asylum-stats.html


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Persons detained solely under Immigration Act powers (Detention)


by place of detention as at 28th June 2008


* A total of 2,315 persons were detained. (90% of capacity)

* 2,240 were held at Immigration Service Removal Centres and 75 at Immigration Short Term Holding Facilities.

* 84 per cent of asylum detainees were male.

* 1,660 persons who had sought asylum at some stage were being detained in the UK solely under Immigration Act powers. This accounted for 72 per cent of all detainees.

* 55 people detained solely under Immigration Act powers were recorded as being less than 18 years old. 40 of these had been in detention for less than 29 days and 15 for between 29 days and two months.

Highest 10 Nationalities detained
Nigeria 300 (Asylum seekers 180)
China 195 (Asylum seekers 160)
Jamaica 140 (Asylum seekers 75)
Pakistan 120 (Asylum seekers 95)
Iraq 100 (Asylum seekers 90)
Afghanistan 95 (Asylum seekers 90)
Iran 90 (Asylum seekers 80)
Sri Lanka 85 (Asylum seekers 80)
Somalia 80 (Asylum seekers 50)
Ghana 70 (Asylum seekers 30)


++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++


Enforcement & Compliance (Removals)


* In Q2 2008, 15,470 persons were removed, departed voluntarily or left under assisted returns from the UK, similar to Q2 2007 (15,390).

* Of those removed, departing voluntarily and leaving under assisted returns in Q2 2008, 7,250 persons were initially refused entry at port (3 per cent fewer than in Q2 2007), 7,190 persons were enforced removals and voluntary departures after enforcement action had been initiated (9 per cent higher than in Q2 2007), and 1,030 persons left under Assisted Voluntary Return Programmes (22 per cent fewer than in Q2 2007).

* In Q2 2008, 2,745 principal asylum applicants were removed, departed voluntarily or left under assisted returns from the UK, 18 per cent fewer than in Q2 2007 (3,355).

* Including dependants, 2,930 asylum seekers were removed, departed voluntarily or left under assisted returns from the UK in Q2 2008, 20 per cent fewer than in Q2 2007 (3,655).

* 680 asylum seekers left under Assisted Voluntary Return schemes in Q2 2008 (620 principal applicants and 60 dependants), 23 per cent of the 2,930 total for the quarter.


Highest 10 Nationalities Removed (Refused sanctuary)
Afghanistan 300
Iraq 205
Turkey 195
China 185
Pakistan 175
Nigeria 150
India 135
Iran 135
Eritrea 95
Bangladesh 85


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Asylum Applications Quarter 2 (Q2), April/May/June 2008


* The number of applications for asylum in the UK, excluding dependants, increased by 15 per cent in Q2 2008 (5,720) compared with Q2 2007 (4,960).

* Including dependants, the number of applications to the UK increased by 13 per cent in Q2 2008 (6,840) compared with Q2 2007 (6,030).


Research Developments & Statistics (RDS)
http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/rds/immigration-asylum-stats.html

This man should tell the Chairman of Oshodi local givernment to vacate the seat before he talks to Nigerians abroad. . .
The American taxi driver who was invited to become Chairman has vowed not leave the position. The money don sweet him belle

or maybe the gov'nor wants other NY taxi drivers to come home and become LG chairmen

eminemkayc:
ITS VERY CRETINOUS OF You TO DESCRIBE AND INTUITIVE AND HARD WORKING GOVERNOR LIKE THAT!! ITS UNFORTUNATE, COS You LACK INFORMATION ON GROUND WHERE EVER You ARE!!

MEANWHILE I THINK THE YOUNG LADIES SHOULD BE NOSTALGIC AND COME BACK HOME!! I NEED TO GET MARRIED TO ONE OF THEM!!AM EXTREMELY SINGLE!!

True. especially becos many of our women are abroad living and desperate for any man hmmmmmmmmmmmm

allo allo
please dont come if you want to come and wear revealing dresses

he he he

Do we have the infrastructure and the hard working human resource to capitalise on this good news?
If investors come in and they realise that everything is done via bribery, will that make them have any confidence in the system?

Yongeze, help me remind dem jare.

@kryptic misfit
your plan to go to naija to find a man wont work. naija guys are not as daft as you think. you already destroyed your life, so live with it

@kryptic life failure
The way you post here shows the way your mind works; not just the content but the arrangements as well. You need help so go and find yourself a shrink and while you're at it, dont try to seduce the shrink as well.
Even your children will curse you when they grow up for the way you chose to live your life. BTW dont think naija boys will take you because you have come with foreign currency o. That trip you want to take to naija to find a man is definitely going to be a fruitless one. The way you laid your life's foundation is the way you're laying on it with misery and sadness. you never thought your past would catch up with you; now you have yourself to blame

Ewu motel

kryptix:
if u are gay,suit yourself.
but am straight, and i go for the opposite gender.
deep inside of u, i wish you married a prostitute.
i thought u were the Mr preacher around here trying to tell us what is in the Bible.
see how much of a fool u turned out to be.

The first thing for you to do is to gather the men for whom you had your children and collect your regular child support for your feeding. Seeing as you are having time on here now, it would appear that you are collecting more from the fathers to your children than they should be giving you. Ewu

I could never marry a prostitute; that's why my type will never marry your type.