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See as the youngest team in the history of the UCL is dominating Olympiacos  but why is Merida hogging the ball?

Wolfsburg should be ashamed if they find this backdoor route into the latter stages of the UCL, they rightly did not qualify due to their performances. I think UEFA has clarified that CSKA's progress in the competition will not be hindered.

Aint I the favorite liverpool forum pest now? perhaps I shld reconsider my ways. Anyways, we're getting ready to steamroll yu at Anfield on Sunday and we won't be taking any prisoners.

v3nom4eva:
Dear or dear!
Where's our mascot/good luck charm when you need her!!!
Murkinut!!

True word my brother, Mukinatu where you dey? or do we need to get some heavy chains to tie down that lecherous fella called dayokanu? hope he hasn't been pointing that horrible thing in your direction in his ecstasy over the Nazi's qualification?

maedan:
Aaw shoot!! He's back^^^^ .

Aint yu being a bit emotional? or is it just that yu're missing me already? 
anyways, hope you do well in your last match in the UCL for some time to come. 

@Sauron

Wolfsburg were pathetic yesterday, seems the occasion overwhelmed them perhaps jitters from a team not accustomed to playing in the UCL or just a below par performance a la Juventus on a day they needed to show up. The fact that Owen got an hat trick tells the whole story.

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=362333.msg5076049#msg5076049 date=1260315208]That is because your squad is thinner than a Congolese anorexic and any kind of mediocre rookie can step into it.
I look at your squad and i shake my head for Arsenal's future. The whole youth policy schitzo is not working for Wenger. It has never worked for him.
United's kids won the Premiership in 95/96. . . . . .Tell us what your squad of 400 teenagers have won?[/quote]A strategy that has produced players like Cesc, Bendtner, Clichy, Song now fully integrated into our first team and full internationals for their country all world cup bound and under 23 (apart from Clichy) isn't working? anyways its early days yet, the production line is going full throttle now and we shall all see. lets review your statement in a year's time.

We will finally see how Bartley does at a higher level tomorrow as he will definitely start along with Tom Cruise at left back. So we will likely see this team:

Fabianski

Gilbert - Bartley - Silvestre - Cruise

Ramsey - Coquelin/Randall - Merida

Wilshere - Vela/Walcott - Vela/Sunu

I would like Arsene to play Coquelin tomorrow as Eastmond has got the opportunity to impress already and I would like Le Coq given his opportunity as the others have clearly overtaken Randall. Vela should play wide left with Walcott playing central if he passes his late fitness test.




[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=362333.msg5075877#msg5075877 date=1260312654]Cesc Fabregas is a product of Barcelona Academy.
He never played in the Arsenal academy. . . .He never graduated from your academy.
Granted, he was 16 when you bought him but he never laced his boots for the academy. . . so find another player. . .Hopefully you will mention Owusu Abeyie. [/quote]You talk too much Sauron, the fact remains that manure cannot name an 18 man strong UCL squad with 10 teenagers in it. 
Fergie no get the liver or the confidence in his younger players to do it.

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=362333.msg5075700#msg5075700 date=1260310338]The question is. . . . .Can you mention one Arsenal player from your academy that is a world class player?

Which players? Mention them.
Which of them can compare with Giggs, Neville, Scholes, Beckham, David Platt, David Healy, etc.
Abeg, forget your academy.[/quote]What you on about mate? what of Ashley Cole, Tony Adams, Martin Keown, Liam Brady, Cesc Fabregas and don't you dare tell me Cesc is from the Barcelona Academy when Becks came to Manure from Tottenham as a 16 year old.

@biolabee

much as I hate to admit it, Dayokanu is supporting a Nazi machine that has immense mental strength. You never really give up on the germans, they always seem to find that extra bit required when the chips are down and were well worth their win. Not that this will make Dayo's gloating any easier to swallow though.

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=362333.msg5075411#msg5075411 date=1260307355]13 years of failure under Wenger.
It's not good enough.[/quote]In Sauron's opinion, the trophy cabinet doesn't say that last 4 years of rebuilding excluded.

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=362333.msg5075411#msg5075411 date=1260307355]British media hyping some buncha mediocre players and you are buying into it.
Your academy is chicken poop to what we produce at Carrington. U mention Tony Adams, i will mention George Best and Bobby Charlton(Ballon d'Or winners).[/quote]The day the british media hypes anything that comes out of Arsenal is the day the world will end, they hate us because in their opinion we don't play enough English players but we don't care. It has taken some time but attainment is just round the corner.
What concerns me with achievements of the 1960s and 70s that have no bearing in the present? we are talking about here and now and the fact that our academy has a track record of bringing players through.

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=362333.msg5075343#msg5075343 date=1260306579]Unfortunately, Arsenal's kids have never won anything at senior level.
No Carling Cup, No FA cup, No EPL, No UCL.
Your kids will be forgotten in the history books in few years to come.[/quote]How are you to know? are you a time traveller? we have done it in the past with the likes of Tony Adams in the pre premiership years, now it has taken Arsene some years to change the predominant English mentality to fit into the new premiership/UCL regime by developing a world class academy. Even the likes of Capello and the Stuart Pearce are now starting to acknowledge the quality of youngsters being developed in the Arsenal academy and we will soon start to see the results just you wait and see.

dayokanu:
Dayonatu would be here in 9months time.

the 2 weeks hiatus revitalised some things in our bedroom

Like what? a limp third leg?

The Squad list for the Olympiacos game is out. 10 teenagers included

Carlos Vela                              20
Theo Walcott                           20
Aaron Ramsey                         18
Alex Song                                22
Mikael Silvestre                       32
Jack Wilshere                          17
Lukasz Fabianski (GK)            24
Vito Mannone (GK)                 20
Fran Merida                           19
Kyle Bartley                           18
Francis Coquelin                   18
Thomas Cruise                     18
Craig Eastmond                   18
Jay Emmanuel-Thomas        18
Kerrea Gilbert                      22
Luke Ayling                          18
Mark Randall                        20
Gilles Sunu                           18

Avg 20.

Now this is what you call a team of youngsters, not Fergies Old men masquerading as youngsters and being hyped by the manure supporting English press.

Cristalz:
With hard core sinners like Debosky, Kit, Loyika, Edoyad, duduspace in it?? Blasphemy!!

Father forgive her for she knows not what she says.

No2Atheism:
Okay no problem thanks for the response . . . let me decide on wat to do.

No2Atheism, wetin happen? has god gone missing? you are not likely to find him on the Sports section nor is Seun likely to be of any help as he is an atheist.

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=362333.msg5067338#msg5067338 date=1260210091]Roast in hell, Duduspace.
Burn slowly and painfully, and may each day in hell be THRICE as long as the one before it(Amen).[/quote]No problem, I will willingly and gladly join yu and Dayo there as long as you don't come mess up our thread with yur yawa talk.

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=362333.msg5067338#msg5067338 date=1260210091]United have more than enough talents emerging @ Carrington so i can understand why Fergie pulled out of the deal.
I was gutted the deal didn't happen but we won't miss him.
We have got Eikrem, Gibson, Ravel Morrison, Possebon, Cleverley, Gray, Drinkwater, Petrucci, Norwood, Hewson, Norwood, Stewart, etc.
FFS, we even have the love child of Paul Parker and Didier Drogba(Paul Pogba).[/quote]Of all those boys yu mentioned, none of them comes close to Ljajic at his age. I specifically watched him at the European U19s earlier in the year becos he was coming to you guys, beleive me when I say Drinkwater is not as good a player, even our own Lansbury is not as good as this guy who was the main man for the Serbian team to that tournament. I can't rate guys like Gibson and Possebon who are (3-4) years older and I doubt the others you mention being better than Drinkwater apart from Cleverley who is doing really well with Lansbury at Watford. Anyway I'm happy manure aint buying the boy apart from the reasons behind them not buying him.

Another opportunity to see the upcoming generation in action and see players like Wilshere and Eastmond . I also hope Coquelin and JET get the opportunity to impress along with Merida and Bartley as Arsene will be playing the young guns. I'll take whatever result we get from this but I believe the young guns can spring a surprise.

Defoe's penalty was a pass to Tim Howard trust the Spuds to lose their nerves when it matters. Imagine Manure B-team spanking them like small boys.

Seems the least likely person is starting to get tight fisted too? I really believe Manure will someday rue not signing this boy, would be all the more interesting if Arsene buys him next week (I wish).
I saw him in the European U19s and he looked in that CR7 and Kaka mould. would be a viable replacement for Rosicky in the long run.


From the Manure correspondent on Soccernet.
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[size=20pt]Ljajic snub smells fishy[/size]

Posted by Daniel Harris 2 days, 1 hour ago

To paraphrase Verbal Kint, the greatest trick that debt ever pulled was convincing the world it didn’t exist. Those who did believe in it were treated as cranks by the vast majority of those in the game and in the media, until the incontrovertible evidence of ticket prices rocketing in inverse proportion to transfer market spending left them looking decidedly Michael Fishy.

- On-pitch matters set up Tevez test

For those unfamiliar with great British weather forecasters, Michael Fish was the man who on October 15th 1987 told us the following: “Earlier on today, apparently, a woman rang the BBC and said she heard there was a hurricane on the way; well, if you’re watching, don’t worry, there isn’t”.

As it turned out, there was – the worst in almost 300 years – and following the sudden cancellation of the transfer to United of Serbian youngster Adem Ljajic, residents of M16 would do well to brace themselves for a storm.

Quite simply, aborting the deal makes sense only against a backdrop of severe financial difficulty. The official line is that there’s a coterie of “top young talent” already at the club, in the “attacking midfielder” position, but in fact nothing could be further from the case; along with pace up front, this is the single most glaring aspect in which the current squad is lacking.

If Ljajic is anywhere near as good as he’s meant to be – as good, say, as United thought he was a year ago, when they also thought there was a need for a player of his type – then this excuse is even more of a nonsense. He may not have progressed as expected, but United were undeterred from buying Gabriel Obertan last summer, despite a season far less auspicious than Ljajic’s.

There are, of course, two differences; price and economy. Starting with the former. Obertan cost £3 million, Ljajic between three and four times that. The apologists will say that he isn’t worth it, and maybe he isn’t, but that misses the point. This is Manchester United we’re talking about: the most popular club in the world, during one of the most successful periods in its history, in the aftermath of the most profitable summer any team has ever enjoyed, at a time when unimaginable riches are sloshing around the top end of the game; if they have to pay a premium, so what? If the player flops, so what?

In defence of this parsimony, the club preached that in the current market, it was impossible to obtain value for money, hilariously expecting people not to fathom the identity of the most significant beneficiaries of this cursed inflation. For years, Fergie has moaned about the United tax added to the value of any player, before quite rightly paying the necessary - and in the days of Kenyonomics, often necessary plus a bit more. Now, suddenly, he expects us to believe in him as ideologue crusader, acting for the benefit of the footballing community.

It’s not that I want United to chuck money around for its own sake – there’s something very vulgar about using financial might, even when legitimately earned, to liberate talent nurtured by others as soon as convenient. But if absolutely required, the money through the turnstiles demands the need be met, even if it costs more than it should. Instead, though, we’re told about United’s proud reputation for developing young players, something the club used to do because it’s important, but now does because there’s no other choice.

The arrival of this time – always likely given the aggressive tenets of the takeover – has been hastened by the economy. Ljajic had been budgeted for a year ago, and the club applied for a work permit as recently as October; it seems very much as though United expected to make the payment.

Their sudden inability to do so illustrates the effrontery of the “top young talent” excuse, as it’s impossible anyone has rendered years of scouting worthless by having a good couple of months - however well Cleverley’s doing at Watford. I’d suggest the real reason the deal has been pulled is that the recession has hit the Glazers harder than they’re letting on; either a planned refinancing is no longer possible, or they require the Ljajic money for something else; perhaps both.

Frighteningly, that something else needn’t have anything to do with United – the Glazers are free to siphon cash out of the club and into any interest of theirs that needed it; verily money ain’t got no owners, only spenders. And who knows what they might do next time they need some capital?

Meanwhile, Fergie – who unforgivably welcomed the Glazers in the first place, even though his opposition could probably have kyboshed the plan – skives his weekly press conference, safe in the knowledge that he can be boozing and spieling a merry retirement by the time we’re in real trouble, probably around the period Ljajic fulfils his potential.

It’s possible that Ljajic will turn out to be another Celio Silva, and United go on to spend the money on a better, similar player. But until they do, the evidence does not look good. Promoting himself – sorry, I mean England’s World Cup bid – the other day, David Beckham referred to the Premier League as “the most exposed in the world”. However you interpret it, he’s not wrong.[/quote]

May the good lord bless this new thread and keep away our sworn enemies like Cristalz, rodents and house mice like Sauron and Dayokanu, may their biased wisdom be turned to folly when they try to post on this thread, may their hard drives crash, their keyboards develop stuck keys and their Monitors turn off when they want to start their rubbish talk on this new arsenal thread, father give them troubles in the clubs they support so they don't have time to mess up our beautiful new thread. Amen and Amen and Amen.

mazaje:
duduspace how far? Two days? hope you are god out there. . . .

I'm good my brother, been more active in the sports section in recent times but I still pop in here every now and then.

viaro:
Let us even grant, for the sake of argument, the denial of God's existence - no Ultimate Designer, no Creator, no Uncaused Causer. .and thus, no 'free will'. . nothing, nada, zilch. Right? Now, the denier has some work to do: he would have to tell us how the Universe sprang into existence on its own. At least, no one has blamed the Universe for 'free will' or the fact of evil in our world and experiences; so start from this basic question to fathom any mathematical or philosophical deductions for a cosmos that just sprang into existence on its own. That would indeed take away your own fear and help you to be less concerned about what theists think.

Is there anything wrong with saying we don't really know how the cosmos started? and that all assertions about its existence are possibilities with some making more sense than the others based on the evidence? which is basically what science is all about?  

A true scientist can only be agnostic because he opens himself to all possibilities.

Why should anyone blame the Universe for free will or evil when the proponents of a spontaneous cosmos generation (if they exist) never made such grand assertions as are made in the bible and the various holy books about the so called creator/god?  

So its Anfield next, no shaking I believe the boys are up to the task afterall they beat a team including Stevie G, Fowler, Alonso and Bellamy when they were barely out of their teens.
Why is Bendtner's return so far away, we need him as soon as possible even though Arshavin gave us something to smile about today. If Eduardo needed a reminder of how to play the striker role in our formation he got one today.
I've also been impressed with Traore's performance ever since coming into the left back role, he has been giving stellar performances

With Chelsea's loss to City, we are back in the mix once again. Now we only need to keep up the drive and not slip up. This team reminds me of the 2006/07 Manure team that needed that little bit of luck to finish above chelsea in the league and then go on to cement their legacy as champions with 3 in a row.

edoyad:
Traore is back on Dudu

good to hear, can't afford to lose another left back. We're short enough as it is.

My brother always said Ramsey had goals in him, figures the major difference between Cesc and Aaron in the long run is that Aaron will be more of a goal threat due to his physical attributes.

So I hear o, I've been following on skysports site, I hear even Traore too is injure now.  

Ed, we dey o, just dey siddon look. how are the lads doin today?

Interesting thread by Banom, his new found friends should keep an eye on his spiritual growth until he has another meditation that convinces him god doesn't exist. Anyways, as long as Banom is happy with what he has found there is no problem after all some people preferred to stay in the Matrix after their eyes were opened to reality.

Arsene has said all that need be said. He has the right to choose who he shakes hands with.

dayokanu:
Chelsea is not on their 4th trophyless season Assanal is. Chelsea won the Carling cup Gayyners didnt.

Chelsea won trophies in the last 4 years Assanal didnt. So where does the comparison come?

Wetin concern me with what happened in the last 4 years? why stop in the last 4 years and not the last 40 years? we are talking about this season and this competition.

Which one Dayo dey self? we still get better things to hope for this season but wetin do una? Chelsea sef don jabo for the Carling Cup despite not playing youngsters but old papas like Belleti and Ballack