₦airaland Forum

siegfried99:
Hmmm..in those dark ages, yes

But not in this new century, it cannot happen. Believe me.

That generation still has some people alive.

And we are talking about 70 years ago not a millennia.
In a supposedly advanced Europe.

timunstopable:
Last time I checked asari dokubo is yet to apologise

Patience Faka Jonathan yet to apologise


now wait for this one

2013 Obi of Onistha cursed Apc, Chris Ngige he is yet to apologise

look at the comment of my fellow ibo brother on the Curse by Obi Of Onitsha ."Obi can't do any wrong cant apologise" so even in ur custom obis dont apologise

Did the Obi of Onitsha wish death on anyone?

Or are you hinging your argument on a side comment by a nonentity.

Your link does NOT show the Obi wishing anyone death in anyway so why do you bring this up to save face.


Accept that the Oba of Lagos is a disgrace and should be reprimanded and stop trying to paint another person evil to atone for his sins.

siegfried99:
Tell'em

I believe it's an issue of not knowing ur boundaries.

I'm not in support of what the Oba said but u cannot expect an apology from a king, other ppl have done that for him.

So let's live in peace, I cannot count the number of friends I have from other. Tribes.. I see all as Nigerians

#SayNoToTribalism

Our igbo brothers be not afraid our kings threat shall not come to manifestation.

I am sorry but history has it that genocides have been started with much less provocative statements by even less influential people.

" I ask nothing of the Jews except that
they should disappear. ”
—Hans Frank, Nazi governor for occupied Poland.

Well some months after and over the course of 3-4years 1 million Jews disappeared in Poland and over 6 million disappeared across Europe.

masseratti:
that is a big lie,the difference is as clear as 7up vs coca cola,

A Niger deltan will always do everything necessary to make sure u are aware that he is not Igbo,they are mostly humble and easy going,an Igbo man is much more noticed and business minded.

But this man calling himself the head of Ohaneze in Amino odofin,this are the people fueling this issue,the palace of the Oba has spoken that the statement was misconstrued and you are still demanding for a documentary, we didn't destroy your property during the war,is it because of Elections we would now destroy it?never has Igbos being attacked in lagos so why now?

Asking or demanding for apologies from the Oba which is a taboo in yoruba land,will never work because rather for the Oba to apologise they will rather commit suicide.

I thought you were from Niger delta then all of a sudden you start talking "we not destroying property".

You need not hide behind Niger delta when it is very obvious where you are from.

osikiabu:
Honestly speaking i felt really bad seeing the way the igbos were dragging lagos state with their hosts who has given them everything. I just pray that the yorubas will find a place in their heart to forgive them for the sake of peace and the love of God. And hope the igbos have learnt their leasons. Without any fear or favour I make bold to say that the yorubas are one of the best and most tolerant ethnic group in nigeria.

Did you also feel bad about these words by the traditional ruler of Lagos to the Igbos who came to pay him a courtesy visit.

"On Saturday, if anyone of YOU, I SWEAR IN THE NAME OF GOD, goes against my wish that Ambode will be the next governor of Lagos state, THE PERSON IS GOING TO DIE inside this water. I am not ready to beg you".

sweetgala:
Given what folks like Asari Dokubo , Obi of Onitsha , Boyoaf , Tompolo and Edwin Clark have spent the last 1 year threatening on behalf of Jonathan. These idiots did nor think of starting wahala

ICC ko JCC ni , the case would be dismissed rather quickly, even if abgaje wins do you think even he can look the king in the eyes. I'm sure he doesn't want his wife to become a widow.

Abeg drop this matter I'm sure the oba has learned

What did Obi of Onitsha say?

Did he threaten genocide on any tribe?

Stop feeding your brain with baseless hearsay.
The Obi of Onitsha is an erudite emeritus professor not some ragtag tout like Akiolu.


The Oba of Lagos is a despicable disgrace to the throne he occupies.

Ralphlauren:
How many kings in the north cautioned or stopped their subjects when they were killing the Ibos in the north? How many kings in the north have apologised over the death of numerous Ibo men, women and children killed by their subjects?

Imagine that their crime was keeping mute at evil. Then compare that with encouraging genocide publicly.

theAtheist101:
Who is god?

Is it god that would file the law suit? Or is ICC the quarters of god? All I can see man runs anything god. Why is that?

Don't be paranoid, no one is harming anyone. The oba erred and they have told you "pele". Still you want to be forming victim. The man talked and una don talk back, so sefini -- case settled.

One has every reason to be paranoid since genocides have been started on less flimsy statements by less influential people who remained obstinate.

Ilekeh:
Yorubas are neither filled with Love or hate. They are strategic.
They choose sides for their self-interest. They act for their self-interest
Yorubas were not filled with hate when they harbored Igbos and kept them safe their the Biafran war. Remeber how you came from the North down to the West?
Were Yorubas filled with hate when they welcomed you to their land after the Biafran war?
Were Yorubas filled with hate when they gave you high positions in Yorubaland?

How quick you forget.

Yourubas harboured Igbos during the Biafran war?

Please which war are you talking about?

The one that every light skinned person in Lagos was discriminated against on the assumption of being Igbo even before it started.

Igbos returned to all parts of the country after the war and started afresh. From Kano to Kaduna, Lagos to Potiskum

Did Yorubas give out free land or food or shelter to them?

They started from scratch with nothing and diligently worked their way up and it has nothing to do with Yoruba love.

Ilekeh:
Igbos voted OBJ, not for Yorubas, but to satiate their hatred for anything North. Ibos hate North more than they hate Yorubas.

Yorubas love Igbos that is why they keep telling them that they are a defeated tribe and can never be president. That is why their Oba said they will perish in the lagoon.

Yorubas love Hausas that is why they keep calling them illiterates.

Yorubas love Ijaws that is why they keep calling Jonathan a clueless Otuoke fisherman from the abandoned land of fishermen.

Yoruba love Ibibios and Anangs that is why they keep calling them house boys

Yorubas love themselves so much that is why they keep assassinating one another politically, Bola Ige was killed out of love.

Yorubas are filled with love.

theAtheist101:
So kings don't make mistakes that cannot be corrected? What he said is wrong and his subjects have apologized on his behalf. He wouldn't never apologise even if the sun was to consume the earth. Just live with it.

Only God is above apology.

The last time I checked Oba is not God.

If you claim he is above apology then you are awarding him the status of God.
He may be your god but he is not mine.
He will continue to receive condemnation and law suits and will eventually end up at ICC if he refuses to do the needful.

Luckily he may not be as heady as some of his followers.

Origin:
I just recently watched Chinamanda's film and was so moved that I researched the Biafran war. This finally took me to the origin of the matter - the first Nigeria coup.
Chinamanda is obviously biased and may be prejudiced by her people's ordeal during the war but she did not fully represent the matter in its true light in her movie.
Please feel free to research this.
I feel the Oba said a prayer which I say regularly " the people who do not want me to succeed will not succeed". Any inconvenience is deeply regretted.

You feel that the Oba said a prayer........ in his"prayer" he said that if the Igbos do not vote for Ambode they will perish in the lagoon.

What kind of prayer is that?

theAtheist101:
Yes, igbos would live in Lagos, but do you think it would be like before?

Virtually everyone has castigated him for his statement, myself inclusive, and you guys over flogging the issue is responsible for the feud. Some Igbos are expanding the insult from the king to his tribe or one political party. The man talked for himself, not anyone or group.

Finally, no one is indispensable.

That is the point you are missing.
As an Oba he is a king and and a representative of his people.

He is no ordinary citizen and his words and action are weighty and cannot be equated to that of other citizens.

His seat is traditional and thus representative of his tribe or clan. That is why there is an outcry in the first place. If his words were said by some political tout on the street or online (worse has been said on nairaland) no one will even notice.

futprintz:
it's rather unfortunate n appalling dat an Oba culdnt have envisaged de ramifications of de words dat proceed frm his mouth, atleast by virtue of his occupation of dat exalted stool. the Yoruba nation hav no right watsoever to blame the Igbos for their reactions or to dictate to them how to react in de face of such unwarranted n witless threat! One wuld expect dat they atleast show their acclaimed enlightenment n civility by holding Oba Akiolu responsible for his careless utterance and duely punish him for such unbecoming behaviour n for bringing such infamy, shame n disgrace to the sanctity of de stool by unsitting him! BTW,wat bizness has an Oba with mingling so deep in politics?!!! nigerians shuld learn to hold ppl responsible for their actions! Oba or no Oba NONSENSE!!!!! RUBBISH!!!!! dat's wat i expected of dis Oodua of a ppl...nt coming here to reel out jaundiced history dat no one really cares abt

On point

Is Lie Mohammed disrespecting the Oba?

Hausa are becoming ungrateful visitors.

bomijuwon:
This Igbo people will not learn. I warn that this issue should tread softly. This was how many northern/Igbo mayhem starts. The Surdana Sokoto said it. The Igbo likes to migrate but will want to dominate their host communities interest.

You sound insecure.

What exactly is this "domination" you speak of?

Sanchez01:
Please don't get me wrong. When things happen and I don't feel it directly, I try to imagine myself in the "feeler's" shoes. I bear no ill will against anyone just that bigotry sickens me. I still believe the movie was never needed still.

I disagree with you.
History must never be swept under the carpet.
Half of a yellow sun was necessary.
It is a reminder for those at present and in the future that they should never tow a certain part.

Over 6 million Jews died in the holocaust and their story has been told countless times and will continue to be told no matter how bitter it is to the Jews or how it demonizes the Germans.

It is unfortunate that today an Oba is making similar statements to that the Nazi made.

Sanchez01:
He should have apologized. I'm no Yoruba and I don't know IF their culture permits an Oba to do so. Regardless, people have disassociated themselves from him. Even a press release was released claiming the "Lagoon" mention was only an adage. We all know this is false but we shouldn't prolong this issue further.

One cannot hide behind cultural practices to commit atrocities.

If not killing of twins, FGCutting etc would perfectly legal.

You cannot hide behind the stool of Obaship to utter genocidal statements and then expect the law not to apply to you.

Statements from coming from a traditional ruler who is a custodian of the people's culture MUST be guarded at all times.

Similar and in fact less inciting statements have led to genocide in the past.

The Oba is yet to tender an unreserved apology, he is the one responsible for his actions.

Sanchez01:
I religiously followed Chinua Achebe was a man I saw as the broken link between the Igbos and other ethnic tribes. I revered him and his works not until he wrote "There was a country". The so-called autobiography was uncalled for as it described what Achebe had nursed over the years. I saw him as someone who cared less about critics and only wanted to write to finally lay claims that he has not forgotten the struggle of his people. I could remember Wole Soyinka said the book was uncalled for as well and it was 'shocking' his good friend could round off his hard work with a disturbing autobiography.

As if that was not enough, Ngozi Chimamanda Adichie wrote "Half of a Yellow Sun" and the movie adaptation clearly revealed that a young lady who was obviously not born during the war managed to write a 'detailed' epistle of the war. I could remember I submitted a review saying "This movie and the book should not have existed". Being a sensitive fellow, I cried at some point in the movie and I thought "how would an Igbo man react to the movie?"

I've never been a fan of Ngozi Chimamanda Adichie and I was obviously not disappointed at the bigot adaptation, rather I blame Chinua Achebe for this. But like Chimamanda started with in this article, we're all born with prejudices. True, we might be born with them but we should be able to live above it. If people around Chimamanda cannot make her forget or shove aside the words of a disgruntled Oba, then she should take to the streets with whoever to protest. We're way past this issue. NCA is relevant and is already a giant in the literature sphere but thinking this piece would make her more relevant is saying black when an object is obviously white.

Shove aside the words of a disgruntled Oba indeed.

How about an unreserved apology for trying to incite genocide.

Ymodulus:
I think I will start by trying to be Anthropomorphic, as it will bet express my heading.
Its really sad when insanity realizes that he has a mental disorder then he is as good as cured. The moment a people come to terms with their complex problem which often place them at loggerheads with their host communities the better for them.

I seem not to fathom how a tribe claim to have suffered humiliations and deprivation from other ethnic nationalities. This allegation should be consider very weighty even though it was not substantiated. Nonetheless, this aggrieved ethnic nationality needs to ask herself what is about it that could be responsible for the purported hostile acts of other ethnic nationalities toward it.

One problem I have with Chimanda is all her articles tends to quote Chinua Achebe, even when its evident chinua actions are wrong. The sane mistake she made, about his book "there was a country". Now she is trying to say that the Igbo's were murdered in early 1960's for political reasons? Who started the war? Was it the Nigerian Arny or The late Ojukwu ? I see Chimabda is biased. And she is just a staunt re-echoer of Chinua Achebe's belief.


I liked the fact that she related the massacre of the Ibos in different parts of the country before the civil war. However what I do like to ask her is this,

1. chimanda was there nothing that led to the massacre?

You can't deny that the tendency to dominate in another man's land which is being exhibited now by taking the Oba to court is what led to such. Tell me when you come back from court if the people of Lagos will still have a good relationship with the Ibos.


Chimanda while trying to play a neutral ground at the surface, is been biased deep down. I am sorry to say but if Chimanda spent her time writing this, she wasted that time. As this just further lowered NY respect for her as an internationally recognised writer. Novel is her thing not politics.

Just imagine how shez is spreading lies about 1960s massacre. Posterity Judge you.

When Chimamanda lashed out against Jonathan's short comings she wasn't biased.
Now she speaks about a horrifying genocidal statement from an Oba she becomes the devil.

Please read the article again and you'll see where she refers to folks like you.

olatunji21:
In as much as Jimi is my preferred candidate, i can't possibly ignore the fact that he divided us along ethnic lines..Lagos state which pride itself as a home for all, is now battling for Supremacy between the Yoruba's and the igbos. that is really pathetic...Jimi destroyed our Lagos, My lagos, your lagos.. History will never forget him..

Your Oba divided Lagos along ethnic lines not JK.

Hold your Oba responsible.

Great Igbo ladies making waves the world over.

APC always brings evil along with it.

Trash

zeongeon:
Its not that igbos are not accomodating, the problem is that most tribes are not as courageous as the igbos when it comes exploring, taking risk and adventure. That is why the igbos are scattered all over nigeria becos of that adventurous and courageous spirit to succeed. But other tribes are always scared, scared of the unknown for reasons best known to them.

Most pple calling igbo names have never lived in any igbo town or stepped out of there region.

Secondly, with all this tribalism flying around it is clear that some pple go to school but don't educate there minds.

Please nigerian youths change ur mindset about one another and break free from the chains of tribalism..tribalism didn't take our fathers anywhere and it won't lead we the young ones anywhere too

When u step out into foreign lands they don't know u by ur tribe they know u by ur country which is NIGERIA...

This country will experience change for good when everyone starts to see himself as a NIGERIAN and not yoruba, igbo or hausa.

Over haul ur MIND.

Excellent!

Is this how Buhari will end up?

1shortblackboy:
even in Nigeria. sombody will be dying doctor will be asking for police report first. my friend was a victim. it was so annoying e be like say my blood wan over boil evapoorate !

Sorry about that but when did this happen and was it a gun shot injury?

So what has APC's Fashola been doing for the past 8 years. and Jagajaban the 8 years before that.

We really need change in Lagos.

Very careless statement by Kunle.

Is he avoiding Rochas' hug in the first picture?

Why is he being so mechanical or does he not want anything to do with these folks?