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@ehie007,

Lots of money, money in our churches. challenge God with this and that. but they can challenge God and help the less privileged. Most of these churches are irksome. However, to be fare enough, it seems Catholic is quite different.

The church uses tithe to extort money from people. They should stop deceiving people in the name of Christ. Always interested in material things.

I want to reemphasize that ebos is going to hit one of the best stories, if not the best so far in the history of Nigeria. Very interesting, entirely different. Why boasting? Not only that, have again over 20 hot stilts that can be converted into good movies.

Consequent upon the fact that you have continued to uphold your hard position on ‘back-to-sender’, my preceding proof against you still remain as it is.

Yes, quite alright we are taxed twice as much by our inability to learn, three times as much by our folly. Refusing to be trained ultimately erodes power. I don’t need to convince large numbers of people to change; instead, I need to put up the annoyance of a good example. I know a cloud does not know why it moves in just such a direction and at such a speed, however, what is me, is quite separate from the not-me, and yet we wonder why there are conflicts of ideas. The conflicts begin with minds that believe in crumbling and are ignorant of whole truth. Igbos will rebound, take it or you leave it.

Pilgrim, I don’t know if I will leave you for now to avoid stirring a sleeping lion? Before I go begin hear ‘na my own I dey jeje when dem no gree Pilgrim 1 rest. I get to flow with you well later on a good frame of mind. Because, if you set yourself in battle array right now – the kind of bomb you will drop will make that of Hiroshima or Nagasaki a child’s play. It will be devastating. Though, still appreciate you.

It’s like each time Catholic is mentioned, epilepsy go catch some people for mouth and hand. Dem no fit control their mouths again. Na carry go for their yarns, one way, ahead, ahead. But for their hands, dem no fit control it again for keyboard. No wahala, e no stop de love we get for una. But na only God go open una eyes, and heal the epilepsy wey dey make una mouth no close against Catholic.

Nigerians are only interested in supporting or imposing candidate(s) on Igbos and against our wish at state level just to cause confusion, but cannot back any Igbo candidate at Federal Level. We understand the game more the external forces.

However, if I claim to be a whole Nigerian and feel worried about any ugly remark against Nigeria, I must as well denounce any remark that will rubbish part of the whole.

Ultimately, the only way to be fulfilled is to constantly grow and to contribute in a meaningful way to other people, to the world. And in order to grow, all of us have to be willing to let go of our fear and let go of who we are, and we've got to set standards and we've got to challenge ourselves. What makes people leaders in life is their willingness to say, 'Raise your standard. Demand more from yourself.' That's what all leaders of any sort do: They call people to a higher standard. I think that causes people to grow. We need to grow.

Ebos is saying why they have to keep silent when Welcome 1 called the entire Igbos 419 and not Afrika 1. Did Afrika 1 call Igbos 419 in his post? It was Welcome 1 that branded the entire ethnic group with such remark. Though, I’m pleased that Igbos in this forum didn’t respond to him and Afrika 1. Some people are really mystified? It was Doyin 13 that really made a coherent analysis when he responded to my post. Doyin offered advice and went ahead to say that no particular tribe can be 100% united. So, I can’t understand why all these IGBO haters like to deceive themselves that Igbos are not united, as if they can point out to me any tribe that is united or speak with 100% one voice. Even in America today, not all of them supported the Iraq invasion. I never said back-to-sender when you were attacking and receiving counter attacks in the other thread, despite I’m from the same tribe you was assailing with your invective languages. I only called for peace. Right now, someone want to assert being more Nigerian than every other person in this forum, when actually he turned a blind eye and never felt upset to a post that condemned a section of this country, but was swift enough to get worried to a remark that rubbished this dodgy country.

Willy Willy has been making some good points, yet some people are sightless to see logic from what he has pointed out. What we are saying is let Nigerians pick one candidate of their choice from Igbo and support him - just the way they did to others. Let them stop telling us to produce a consensus candidate.

Pilgrim, I’m fine and enjoying my weekend. Hope you too? Meanwhile, any assail against Lawyer is absolutely not acceptable. Lawyer has made some good points.

The above explanation to you is the end of my response to you

@ Laudate

I didn’t refer to you directly that you hate Igbos. I only tried to point out evidence that might nail you hence you demanded a sort of that. So, I felt that referring your hushed to a post that condemn the entire race (Igbos) could not be reconciled with your swift condemnation of my remark to a country which I’m also a citizen, followed your comment of ‘back-to-sender’. The very phrase that depict you mind. Why back-to-sender? A direct attack to me, yet you feel I have initiated attack against you. Hilarious!

Laudatte, did you condemn welcome 1 for calling Igbos 419? You can see the reason why I said you should not take it personal. I don't have to respond to you again.

quote author=welcome 1link=topic=76264.msg1472788#msg1472788 date=1189164892]
[quote][/quote]What makes a man a confirmed fool ?

Fact he told you the truth ? The igbo man has not made anything of himself today. Except 419. They are the only set of Nigerians not united.

Zik called himself Zik of africa. But when he died, the road to his village was not even tarred.

How can u be a giant of a nation, when your hometown is in shambles ? Beats me.[
What makes a man a confirmed fool ?

Laudatte, what did you say when welcome 1 called all Igbos 419? You did not condemn it. Now you quickly rose to condemn my curse. Is this not an envidence against you - your hatred against Igbos cannot change. What evidence do you want again?

Cgift,

What you do not ask yourself is this, who wrote those histories that condemned Catholic Church? The enemies of the Catholic (the true Church of Christ) wrote them. So, you don’t expect anything good from them. That is the very reason I don’t like reading them. Have you taken your time to read Jehovah witness magazine? They always write rubbish against Catholic Church – deceiving people. So, you have to disregard such books. They are evil.

@Lawyer,

I think we have to ignore any post(s) that insult Catholic Church, but anyone that truly want explanation on why this and that in Catholic Church should be given attention. Though, the person may not have to agree, but we will try our best to respect a mature mind.

I don’t like engaging in any debate in Nairaland because they can easily insult, but after my debate with Pilgrim 1 in one of the threads, I found out that she is different from most people who insult easily – though, she may not agree with your point(s), but at least her civility is what enticed me most. Cgift is another person that has displayed his maturity in any of our discussions. It was that scoundrel called Backslider & co who came and showed what they are made of – uncivil and scalawag to the core. The only site you can debate with people and be sure of no insult is vanguard poll. That is where I like to have a debate chiefly on politics and our contributions are published occasionally for Nigerians to read.

Sincerely speaking, I do not see Pilgrim and Cgift being rude, but know beforehand that Pilgrim’s chances of believing you is just 15% . The rest of 85% is NO GO AREA. I can offer explanation on Catholic faith and that of Papacy on a cordial discussions. It could be dangerous to remain 100% silent when Catholic is castigated, because we have some Catholics who doesn’t know their left and right, and these people can easily be deceived if no explanation is given to convince them. That is why I find it a bit difficult to keep complete silent.

Some people can change tactics – that they were Catholics but when they discovered the truth, they now left and joined the living church. But the truth of the matter is that, these people might not be Catholics even for a day or they were such Catholics of Sunday, Sunday medicines. Now check out the implication of that statement to fellow Catholics who doesn’t read their bibles – then keeping complete quiet may not be helpful.

@Cgift,

Do you think that Christ rebuked Mary and He still went ahead to do her request - turning water into wine? Christ didn't want to show Himself at that period, and that was why she said "woman my hour has not come." But because of Mary He had to perform His first miracle, and it was against Christ's wish. Yet He had to listen to His mother - demonstrating the obedient you are to give to your parents.

ok,

Hi Pilgrim,

I have not refused to respond to your posts as long as you want to know more on Catholicism. I can offer some good points as regards to my faith hence I only want just mutual understanding. If I want to be rascally, certainly not on the thread that will demoralize my fellow Catholics. If we go to jokes and politics etc sections - then my approach will change a bit.

Feel fine

I never directed my post to any particular tribe. So, Laudatte, you should not take it personal. What you sent revolve within you.

Hello Pilgrim, Cgift, Bigfred

I’m not annoyed that you observed some certain things concerning Catholic Church. You are entitled to make your contribution(s) but try to be polite. We are not teenagers. However, Pilgrim, apology is noted. It takes someone who is meek to do what she did.

I don’t know her age, but her responses portray her as a mature person. I love that.

Willywilly

I think you have just made some good points in your post. The fear of the unknown. Igbos’ position if the Federal Govt go into full military onslaught against Niger Deltans. Would Igbos turn against the Fed Govt? That is the fear.

All Igbos in this forum should not join issues with those who have imbibed unnecessary hatred against Igbos.

Listen, no Israelite can win any elections in the midst of Arabs, and the Igbos are like the Israelites surrounded by those who hate them and cannot win any elections in Nigeria. This hatred cannot be explained, just like the Arabs that surrounded Israel. Even if Angel Gabriel is an Igbo man today, Nigerians will prefer to vote a condemned criminal from other tribe – Angel Gabriel cannot win elections in Nigeria if he is an Igbo man.

They say Igbos are not united and cannot produce a consensus candidate. It is unfortunate that some Igbos have believed this nonsense.

In 1999, Obasanjo was not a consensus candidate for the Yorubas but the Northerners picked and supported Obasanjo and rigged the elections in favour of OBJ.

In 2007, Yaradua was not a consensus candidate for the Northerners, but the PDP Government picked and supported Yaradua and rigged the elections in favour of Yaradua.

Meanwhile, when it is the turn of Igbos, Nigerians cannot adopt any candidate from Igbo and support him. It is then they will say that Igbos are not united. They should produce a consensus candidate, knowing fully well that this is a democratic setting and bringing a consensus candidate cannot be possible. So, that story of Igbos not united is not new to us. We understand the game and this evil country will remain cursed until Igbos are recognized.

My mistake,

Bigfred has been one of those that ignoranlty attack Catholic Church unnecessarily. He's not being polite.

Every person is entitled to his or her own opinion. Why being hard to someone who just gave his or her personal view on how to make marriage last and wax in love. She has not cursed any person. I believe the thread call for contributions, and here someone has given her own contribution.

Hello Pilgrim,

What do you want me to say again? I said we don’t worship idols and you said no, Catholics worship idols. So, you know my heart and can tell me what I worship? This has been the position of your fellow Protestants despite reemphasizing that we (Catholics) worship only the true God. I have explained the meaning of the word ‘PRAY’ before. Though, it is only you (Pilgrim), Cgift and Bigfred that have adopted a polite way of conversing with us, while formerly, you remained the only person that have not accused Catholic of idolatrous. However, I’m sorry to say that you have failed to keep the status-quo which was the main point of entering into a debate with you. Now, I doubt if there is anything I can say that will change the way you see Catholics. As friends, I can still discuss with you as long as you see me as a true Christian and not as idolater, and you have failed to let me know your own church – which does not balance this very discussion. Nevertheless, I must say your responses so far have been nice even though you have not agreed in any point we (Catholics) have made. But your fellow Protestants in the other thread came and chased me away with their abysmal discourtesy.

Besides, I still maintain that you have every right to point out the areas you feel (personal observations) that Catholic Church has done wrong, and call for more enlightening. But, it is wrong to put it to me directly that I worship Mary or idols. What is difficult here to get my point? Haba!

There is a very big difference between someone who want to discuss and know more about Catholic faith and someone who is sure of what Catholic faith is. So, you already know Catholic faith? If you are interested in knowing why Catholics adopt so many things, it will be a different story. Though, your contributions cannot change anything about Catholic faith and I will NEVER NEVER have any doubt(s) in me concerning Catholic doctrines- we are 100% true Church of Christ. Again, you can be of help by telling one or two people there that Catholic does not worship idols. That is the only reason for this sharing, and we learn from each other. Each time I display my displeasure – especially when Catholic Church is accused wrongly, I always make sure I don’t direct it to any particular person. In this way, no one will accuse me of any personal attack. You know in Nairaland, some people can easily resort to insult in order to pass their messages, and we must avoid this. I didn’t want to engage in this debate or reply to person again, but calling in mind your responses in the 666 thread and the way you followed it all - it has compelled me to explain to you.

I Wish You Well.

Hello Protestants,

Could there be more understanding now? I can't understand all the unnecessary attacks against Catholic Church.

Actually, Protestants are not full Christians until they join the true Church of Christ (Catholic). Pope really made a good point. If you baptize in any of the Protestant Churches, and come back to the Catholic Church - you have to be baptised again so as to welcome you as a Christian. But if you baptise in Anglican, Methodist and I hope Lutheran Churches and join Catholic, we only accept you back in the Catholic Church, no new baptism needed, and their Pastors are counted as anointed men of God hence we know them as Pentecostants when classifying them . The Protestant Pastors are not anointed men of God. I believe this was the point Pope was trying to make, and he is right.

All these Protestants should read what real Christians (Catholics) face everyday.  Not just making noise, enjoying Christianity after so many Catholics have died trying to establish Christianity in NO-Go-Areas.  We want them to join Catholics there.  Living Churches - na mouth.

Afghan converts to Christianity lead dangerous lives and must keep their faith secret to avoid persecution by police, Islamists or even their own neighbors. Members of this secret society have to constantly keep looking over their shoulders.

An Islamist demonstration in Afghanistan:  Christian have no voice here

Kabar converted to Christianity 20 years ago, when such a thing was not as taboo as it is today. "There were a lot of Catholic Churches, both in Kabul and in the country," he says. "Back then the two religions coexisted here almost peacefully." But that all changed when the Taliban came to power in the mid-1990s. Taliban Supreme Leader Mullah Omar ordered his men to raze churches to the ground, to lynch Afghan Christians and to kill or drive out foreigners who followed Jesus Christ.
Many of Kabar's friends lost their lives during this period. "They tortured prisoners until they got them to tell them the names of other Christians.   Most Missionaries who are mainly Catholics are killed almost every month, but this has not discouraged their efforts in any way.  Then the Taliban would kill them and go in search of new victims." Why he himself survived, he doesn't know. He was taken prisoner twice and interrogated for hours at a time, but his persecutors could find no proof. "I knew the suras and the prayers from the Koran by heart. So I pretended to be a good Muslim," he said, with something like pride in his voice.
Anything that could help  him as a Christian has been put out of sight, out of fear. He is afraid that what happened to Abdul Rahman, another convert to Christianity, might happen to him.

Persecution under the Taliban

It's difficult arranging meetings with people like Kabar. Time and again he postponed the appointment, then he asked that the location be changed. Finally the meeting takes place in his office. Brochures are lying about and a computer hums in the background, but nothing would indicate the subject of the conversation. There are no crucifixes on the wall, no Bibles on the shelves.
The case of Rahman serves as proof to Afghan Christians that they live in extreme danger, simply because of their beliefs. Despite the fact that international pressure prevented Rahman from being sentenced and perhaps executed by Afghanistan's justice system, Rahman's story illustrates the extreme stress that those who turn away from Islam experience every day. "We must recognize that freedom of religion, as promised by the Afghan constitution, does not exist," says Kabar, sadly. "But maybe it's good that the international community is now aware of that."

But the disappearance of the Taliban has not made much of a difference for people like Kabar. Converts continue to be hunted down, thrown into prison or even killed by their neighbors. The West was largely unaware of the situation, and it was only by coincidence that Rahman's case captured international attention. Afghanistan's 2004 constitution, which guarantees freedom of religion, is of little use to Christians. "Many in power in the judicial branch are imams or clerics who have little interest in the constitution," says Kabar.
Hide and seek

Kabar is forced to renounce his core identity every day. There is an Islamic name on his business card, although privately he carries the name of one of the apostles. Only his family and his closest friends know his secret. Sometimes, he says, he has to act as if he is praying to Allah. "If business associates come to my house and suddenly want to pray, I have to go along," he says, adding that he only hopes his God understands.

No one knows how many Afghan converts there really are. Because there are no churches, there are also no records. Everything is carried out in secret; only Christians know other Christians. Kabar says he knows a couple of hundred in Kabul and in many other Afghan cities, estimating that there are probably in total between 1,000 and 2,000 people of the Christian faith in Afghanistan, against a Muslim majority of nearly 20 million. Christian Web sites put that number at 10,000, a figure which seems exaggerated.
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Even Christian foreigners in Afghanistan feel the oppression brought down by the larger Islamic society. While Christians in Kabul, who mostly come from the Philippines, can hold masses in Kabul, they have to do so in secret. The head of a small foreign congregation, an ophthalmologist from the United States, declined to talk about the issue last week. Christian groups are often suspected of being missionaries; therefore it's better to keep a low profile. His own church is completely unrecognizable as such, apart from a (relief of a) fish on the outer wall.

The persecution and the constant danger have turned the community of Afghan converts into a closely knit underground organization. Ironically, the oppression has strengthened the faith of many.
Nothing can happen in the open, and Kabar and his fellow believers hold their worship services on different days of the week. "It would be too dangerous to do it on Sunday, because it would be easy for them to observe us." Converts are contacted just before a service is to take place, often by innocent-sounding mobile phone text messages. "We're having tea at 11 o'clock," is one that Kabar reads.

The locations of services change constantly as well, and they are always held in private homes, where everything has to be prepared well in advance. The household staff must be away; neighbors mustn't notice anything; and everyone has to have the 100 percent trust of everyone else. It is too dangerous to even have a Bible at most services, says Kabar, who knows his prayers by heart. Police have come and searched his house three times already, but failed to find anything incriminating. "They know I'm a Christian," he says. "But I won't give them any reason to put me on trial."
Even though Afghanistan has dismissed its case against Abdul Rahman, this is a cold comfort for Kabar. He and his friends fear that anger among Islamists over Rahman's release could spur them to take matters into their hands and act even more brutally toward converts. "Abdul Rahman's release is a good thing," he says. "But the international community needs to keep its eyes open."

According to Kabar, the worst thing would be if the resolution of the case leaves the impression that everything is now OK for converts living in Afghanistan. If that happens, he says, the case would have done more harm than good. "We are going to stand by our faith," he adds on parting. "Any kind of support would help us a lot."

All these Protestants should read what real Christians (Catholics) face everyday. Not just making noise, enjoying Christianity after so many Catholics have died trying to establish Christianity in NO-Go-Areas. We want them to join Catholics there. Living Churches - na mouth.

Afghan converts to Christianity lead dangerous lives and must keep their faith secret to avoid persecution by police, Islamists or even their own neighbors. Members of this secret society have to constantly keep looking over their shoulders.

An Islamist demonstration in Afghanistan: Christian have no voice here

Kabar converted to Christianity 20 years ago, when such a thing was not as taboo as it is today. "There were a lot of Catholic Churches, both in Kabul and in the country," he says. "Back then the two religions coexisted here almost peacefully." But that all changed when the Taliban came to power in the mid-1990s. Taliban Supreme Leader Mullah Omar ordered his men to raze churches to the ground, to lynch Afghan Christians and to kill or drive out foreigners who followed Jesus Christ.
Many of Kabar's friends lost their lives during this period. "They tortured prisoners until they got them to tell them the names of other Christians. Most Missionaries who are mainly Catholics are killed almost every month, but this has not discouraged their efforts in any way. Then the Taliban would kill them and go in search of new victims." Why he himself survived, he doesn't know. He was taken prisoner twice and interrogated for hours at a time, but his persecutors could find no proof. "I knew the suras and the prayers from the Koran by heart. So I pretended to be a good Muslim," he said, with something like pride in his voice.
Anything that could out him as a Christian has been put out of sight, out of fear. He is afraid that what happened to Abdul Rahman, another convert to Christianity, might happen to him.

Persecution under the Taliban
Kabar converted to Christianity 20 years ago, when such a thing was not as taboo as it is today. "There were a lot of churches, both in Kabul and in the country," he says. "Back then the two religions coexisted here almost peacefully." But that all changed when the Taliban came to power in the mid-1990s. Taliban Supreme Leader Mullah Omar ordered his men to raze churches to the ground, to lynch Afghan Christians and to kill or drive out foreigners who followed Jesus Christ.
Many of Kabar's friends lost their lives during this period. "They tortured prisoners until they got them to tell them the names of other Christians. Then the Taliban would kill them and go in search of new victims." Why he himself survived, he doesn't know. He was taken prisoner twice and interrogated for hours at a time, but his persecutors could find no proof. "I knew the suras and the prayers from the Koran by heart. So I pretended to be a good Muslim," he said, with something like pride in his voice.

It's difficult arranging meetings with people like Kabar. Time and again he postponed the appointment, then he asked that the location be changed. Finally the meeting takes place in his office. Brochures are lying about and a computer hums in the background, but nothing would indicate the subject of the conversation. There are no crucifixes on the wall, no Bibles on the shelves.
The case of Rahman serves as proof to Afghan Christians that they live in extreme danger, simply because of their beliefs. Despite the fact that international pressure prevented Rahman from being sentenced and perhaps executed by Afghanistan's justice system, Rahman's story illustrates the extreme stress that those who turn away from Islam experience every day. "We must recognize that freedom of religion, as promised by the Afghan constitution, does not exist," says Kabar, sadly. "But maybe it's good that the international community is now aware of that."
Persecution under the Taliban
Kabar converted to Christianity 20 years ago, when such a thing was not as taboo as it is today. "There were a lot of churches, both in Kabul and in the country," he says. "Back then the two religions coexisted here almost peacefully." But that all changed when the Taliban came to power in the mid-1990s. Taliban Supreme Leader Mullah Omar ordered his men to raze churches to the ground, to lynch Afghan Christians and to kill or drive out foreigners who followed Jesus Christ.
Many of Kabar's friends lost their lives during this period. "They tortured prisoners until they got them to tell them the names of other Christians. Then the Taliban would kill them and go in search of new victims." Why he himself survived, he doesn't know. He was taken prisoner twice and interrogated for hours at a time, but his persecutors could find no proof. "I knew the suras and the prayers from the Koran by heart. So I pretended to be a good Muslim," he said, with something like pride in his voice.
But the disappearance of the Taliban has not made much of a difference for people like Kabar. Converts continue to be hunted down, thrown into prison or even killed by their neighbors. The West was largely unaware of the situation, and it was only by coincidence that Rahman's case captured international attention. Afghanistan's 2004 constitution, which guarantees freedom of religion, is of little use to Christians. "Many in power in the judicial branch are imams or clerics who have little interest in the constitution," says Kabar.
Hide and seek
Kabar is forced to renounce his core identity every day. There is an Islamic name on his business card, although privately he carries the name of one of the apostles. Only his family and his closest friends know his secret. Sometimes, he says, he has to act as if he is praying to Allah. "If business associates come to my house and suddenly want to pray, I have to go along," he says, adding that he only hopes his God understands.
No one knows how many Afghan converts there really are. Because there are no churches, there are also no records. Everything is carried out in secret; only Christians know other Christians. Kabar says he knows a couple of hundred in Kabul and in many other Afghan cities, estimating that there are probably in total between 1,000 and 2,000 people of the Christian faith in Afghanistan, against a Muslim majority of nearly 20 million. Christian Web sites put that number at 10,000, a figure which seems exaggerated.
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Even Christian foreigners in Afghanistan feel the oppression brought down by the larger Islamic society. While Christians in Kabul, who mostly come from the Philippines, can hold masses in Kabul, they have to do so in secret. The head of a small foreign congregation, an ophthalmologist from the United States, declined to talk about the issue last week. Christian groups are often suspected of being missionaries; therefore it's better to keep a low profile. His own church is completely unrecognizable as such, apart from a (relief of a) fish on the outer wall.
The persecution and the constant danger have turned the community of Afghan converts into a closely knit underground organization. Ironically, the oppression has strengthened the faith of many.
Nothing can happen in the open, and Kabar and his fellow believers hold their worship services on different days of the week. "It would be too dangerous to do it on Sunday, because it would be easy for them to observe us." Converts are contacted just before a service is to take place, often by innocent-sounding mobile phone text messages. "We're having tea at 11 o'clock," is one that Kabar reads.
The locations of services change constantly as well, and they are always held in private homes, where everything has to be prepared well in advance. The household staff must be away; neighbors mustn't notice anything; and everyone has to have the 100 percent trust of everyone else. It is too dangerous to even have a Bible at most services, says Kabar, who knows his prayers by heart. Police have come and searched his house three times already, but failed to find anything incriminating. "They know I'm a Christian," he says. "But I won't give them any reason to put me on trial."
Even though Afghanistan has dismissed its case against Abdul Rahman, this is a cold comfort for Kabar. He and his friends fear that anger among Islamists over Rahman's release could spur them to take matters into their hands and act even more brutally toward converts. "Abdul Rahman's release is a good thing," he says. "But the international community needs to keep its eyes open."
According to Kabar, the worst thing would be if the resolution of the case leaves the impression that everything is now OK for converts living in Afghanistan. If that happens, he says, the case would have done more harm than good. "We are going to stand by our faith," he adds on parting. "Any kind of support would help us a lot."

All Igbos in this forum should not respond Afrika 1. He is a confirmed fool. Though, I have to demean myself to inform Igbos here. Let us watch his next post(s). It will expose his foolishness more. Please, Please, no Igbo person should respond to this fool.

The so-called living (Protestants) churches should forget about Europe, America and some African Countries where there are safe haven for Christianity - Catholic Church has already spearheaded the way in all these places. They are only interested in the places they will make easy money, afraid of persecution and death. I think they should try Rwanda, Burundi, Somalia, Palestine, Afghanistan. They should go there and tell the Talibans what they are doing is not in the bible. Even in most parts of Lebanon – let them come and preach Christ in all these places and make a noise with their loudspeakers, if they are lucky enough, a kind and brotherly warning of 24 lashes will be given to them as penalty for public disturbance. But if they are not lucky enough – their heads will be blown into pieces. We have Catholic Church(s) in all these places mentioned and they facing the challenges as true Christians. The Protestants can only come in and make a hell of noise after Catholic has watered the ground. It is not enough for redeem, and co to open churches in almost every street and make noise about it. Christ knows His true Church and those faking themselves – they are only interested in extorting money from their easy-deceived followers – claiming to possess the truth. No single Protestant church in Palestine, Afghanistan etc. Let them go and be fishers of men there and stop using Catholic Church as their ocean to catch fish. Catholic Priests, Missionaries etc are killed often time and we keep on sending more missionaries. Christianity means carry your cross and follow Christ. No Cross, No Christianity. The early Apostles carried their crosses, going to all those risky places. But, the Protestant Churches are only in Nigeria, South Africa, Ghana, Australia, America, Europe etc claiming to be doing the work of God.

Please, my fellow Catholics, never you listen to them, and DON’T REPLY again any post(s) that insult Catholic Church. But anyone who is interested to know our faith and channel it in a polite way should be given attention.

Personally, I will NO LONGER respond to any post that insults Catholic Church except those that politely want to know our doctrine(s). I can’t imagine myself responding to all these insults again.

I will post this to all threads that deal with Catholic Church – in this way, my fellow Catholics will learn how to IGNORE those Satan has caged.

I will post the above to all threads that deal with Catholic Church – in this way, my fellow Catholics will learn how to IGNORE those Satan has caged.