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The Hustle to spread propaganda is real; the battle for the hearts and minds of Nigeria inside a Boiling Recession is hot (and it is not even election year yet, 2019 still dey front front.... )

Congrats to the US for doing a sting operation; abi na bite operation....

Unfortunately, here in Nigeria, we just became a democratic country once again and for the past 16 years it has been so.

The question is simple, does Nigeria law - and not American law - permit what the
DSS did??


The answer is a firm no!! Period....


Whether they are guilty of corruption or not is simply a matter of opinion.

Until proper procedure for their dismissal and subsequent prosecution takes places, as far as Nigerian law is concerned they are as blameless as Rotimi Amaechi (who has collected never bribe one day in his life).

In any case, the cases aren't the same and don't even have the same antecedence.

The Judges arrested in the USA weren't arrested in connection to the handling of cases in which judgement has already been passed or were handled.

The US case had to deal witj the conduct of Judges outside a courtroom/court proceedings as opposed to arresting a judge for allegedly collecting bribes to issue judgements or influence cases.........

Nice try but, kole werk...........

winningwinner:
In a recent online publication on how much a Nigerian soldier earns and how much an officer in the Nigerian Police force earns, nost people were alarmed at the huge difference.

The question that arose bothered on why Nigerians condemn the police for some of the things they do. Today, we shall shift our focus to see how much a Nigerian senator earns.

True, there have been much debate over the monthly salary of a Nigeria senator but with our recent findings, we have put that out below for you all to be the judge on what a Nigerian senator salary looks like.
Note that the figure listed here is the true report from the National Institute of Legislative Studies released for public consumption and shows how much a Nigerian law maker earns (the 109 Senators and 360 members of the Nigerian House of Representatives).

A Breakdown of Nigerian Senator Salary Structure:

1. Basic Salary

Nigerian Senator annual basic salary – N2,026,400,00

Nigerian House of Representatives annual basic salary – N1,985,212, 50

2. Allowances
Nigerian Senator – N12, 902, 360.00annually

House of Representatives member – N9,525,985.50 annually.

The allowances are on: Vehicle fueling/maintenance, Constituency, Domestic Staff, Personal Assistant, Entertainment, Recess, Utilities, Newspaper/Periodicals, Houses Maintenance, Wardrobe, Estacode, and Duty Tour with another special amount in every four-year period on Accommodation, vehicle loan, furniture, and severance allowance, which make every Senator to pocket N24,090,000.00 and a House of Representatives member with N23,822,00.00 within the same period.

When you compare this with how much other country’s law makers, you will see the difference.

Philippines annual basic salary – $4, 497,957

United States of America senate – $3,409,422

US House of Representatives – $1,429,909 annually

Kenya – $968,013 annually

Australia – $646,230

United Kingdom – £494,285.43

India – $474,484

Singapore – $253,469,

Tanzania – $230,961.

The Nigerian government has been spending a total of N150 billion per year on the NASS but was forced to reduce it to N120 billion this year following cries that the lawmakers are milking the Federation Account aggressively.

Just wondering why a Nigerian Senator Salary and a Rep’s salary will be more than those of the Military and the police. What a country!

Nigerian Senator annual basic salary – N 2,026,400.00
Allowances Nigerian Senator – + N12,902,360.00
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Total N14,928,760.00/356 equals $41,935

@356 equals 1$

Now sincerely compare that amount to all the figures in other countries. Are they not church rats compared to countries like Tanzania??

Na we dey use our mouth dey spoil our own country.

baresywood:
#RevolutionLoading

Recession: What recession? If you think Nigeria is broke, then you are living in another planet. Now, please read the information below and tell me why Nigerians crying of hardship are comfortable with the bold looting of their collective wealth by the politicians. #RevolutionLoading

A SELF DECEIVING COUNTRY CALLED NIGERIA

Twenty-one senators currently receiving pensions from government as ex-governors and deputy governors.

The current senators who once served as governors are Bukola Saraki of Kwara, Rabiu Musa Kwankwaso of Kano, Kabiru Gaya of Kano, Godswill Akpabio of Akwa Ibom, Theodore Orji of Abia, Abdullahi Adamu of Nasarawa, Sam Egwu of Ebonyi, Shaaba Lafiagi of Kwara, Joshua Dariye of Plateau Jonah Jang of Plateau, Aliyu Magatakarda Wamakko of Sokoto, Ahmed Sani Yarima of Zamfara, Danjuma Goje of Gombe, Bukar Abba Ibrahim of Yobe, Adamu Aliero of Kebbi, George Akume of Benue and Isiaka Adeleke of Osun.

The former deputy governors in the Senate are Ms Biodun Olujimi of Ekiti and Enyinaya Harcourt Abaribe of Abia. Danladi Abubakar Sani served as the acting governor of Taraba state.

Many former governors are also in Buhari's Cabinet as Ministers. This includes: Ngige, Fayemi, Amaechi and Fashola (SAN).).

In Akwa Ibom State, the law provides that ex governors and deputy governors receive pension equivalent to the salaries of the incumbent. The package also includes a new official car and a utility vehicle every four years; one personal aide; a cook, chauffeurs and security guards for the governor at a sum not exceeding N5 million per month and N2.5 million for his deputy governor.

In Rivers, the law provides 100 percent of annual basic salaries for the ex-governor and deputy, one residential house for the former governor “anywhere of his choice in Nigeria”; one residential house anywhere in Rivers for the deputy, three cars for the ex-governor every four years and two cars for the deputy every four years.

It is alledged that in Lagos, a former governor will get two houses, one in Lagos and another in Abuja, estimated at N500 million in Lagos and N700 million in Abuja. He also receives six new cars to be replaced every three years; a furniture allowance of 300 percent of annual salary to be paid every two years, and a N30 million pension annually for life.

This is the reality for all the 21 ex govenors and deputy governors who are currently serving as senators. This same is also true of ex governors who are now serving as Ministers.

NOW I ASK:
How many years did these guys serve their states as governors and deputy governors? Is it more than 8years? Is that a reason to be entitled to pensions for life? Even if they are entitled to pension for life, must it be so outrageous?

As if that is not enough: HOW on earth can any public servant with conscience collect salaries and allowances as a senator or minister, and still have the audacity to claim pensions equivalent to the salaries of a serving governor in Nigeria?

IT ISN'T ROCKET SCIENCE......

Once you are elected a senator or appointed a minister, you must forfeit any pension accruing to you from government at any level until you vacate office. This should also apply to senators collecting military pensions like former Senate President David Mark.
Yet these senators are in the Senate that is inviting the current finance minister to discuss the recession of Nigeria's economy. A senator pockets approximately 30 million naira monthly as salary and allowances. Our "honourables" are not interested to make laws that could restructure our country into economically autonomous federating States/Regions to save the country from sectional agitations that is threatening to destroy Nigeria.The sad and hopeless situation is that the rest of Nigerians are busy arguing based on party, ethnic and affiliations while these enemies of state continue to rape us.

Do you know that it costs tax payers 290m Naira yearly to maintain each member of our National Assembly in a country where nothing works & 80% of population earn below 300 Naira a day ? A working day earning of a senator is more than a yearly income of a doctor; it's more than the salary of 42 Army generals or 48 professors or 70 commissioners of police or more than twice the pay of the US President or 9times the salary of US congressmen.
Please say NO to looting of Nigeria in the name of democracy by sending this text to at least 5 others.
I think the country must have a referendum on salaries of senators. This must happen very quickly.

If the government can't we the masses must do something.

Please stop this propaganda..............................it geting stale already.

The controversy over the monthly salary of a Nigerian lawmaker has finally been laid to rest with a formal disclosure of what the legislators earn. The National Institute of Legislative Studies, NILS, apparently worried by growing public outcry against the Nigerian lawmakers, on Friday released a set of documents, showing what constitutes the earnings of the 109 Senators and 360 members of the Nigerian House of Representatives.

The documents, which were made available to Vanguard in Abuja on Friday, indicated that the Nigerian lawmakers earn perhaps one of the least salaries among legislators in the world, as against the notion that their pay was outrageous.

Apart from releasing global comparative figures drawn from nine countries, the NILS also gave a breakdown of what constitutes the monthly take-home pay of each Nigerian lawmaker. The figure shows that while a Nigerian Senator gets an annual basic salary of N2,026,400,00 a member of the Nigerian House of Representatives goes home with N1,985,212, 50 per year.

But beyond that a Senator takes home a bouquet of allowances which hike their salary to N12, 902, 360.00 while their House of Representatives counterpart goes home with N9,525,985.50 annually.

Thus, for the four-year tenure which the lawmaker stay in the NASS, the Nigerian government spends a total of N1, 406,357,240.00 as basic salary on the 109 Senators and N3,428,994,780.00 on the 360 members of the House of Representatives.

The breakdown of the allowances are on: Vehicle fuelling/maintenance, Constituency, Domestic Staff, Personal Assistant, Entertainment, Recess, Utilities, Newspaper/Periodicals, Houses Maintenance, Wardrobe, Estacode, Duty Tour, which attract more money available to the lawmakers than their basic salaries.

Beyond that, the lawmakers earn special amount in every four-year period on Accommodation, vehicle loan, furniture, and severance allowance, which make every Senator to pocket N24,090,000.00 and a House of Representatives member to go home with N23,822,00.00 within the same period.

Thus for every four year which a lawmaker stays in the NASS, the Federal Government spends N2,625, 810,000.00 on accommodation, vehicle loans, furniture and severance gratuity on the 109 senators and N8,575,920,000.00 on the 360 House of Representatives members. This payment brings the total expenditure of the government to N33, 992, 360 for the senators and N33,347, 985, 50 on the members of the HoR.

The figures are lower when compared to what their counterparts in eight other countries earn. But the monies Nigerian lawmakers earn from their oversight functions and other sources make them big earners.

A global comparison released by the NILS shows that lawmakers in the Philippines earn the highest annual basic salary of $4, 497,957, followed by their counterparts in the United States of America where a Senator goes home with $3,409,422 while a member of the US House of Representatives takes $1,429,909 home annually.

This is followed by lawmakers in Kenya who earn $968,013 per annum followed by their counterparts in Australia who take home $646,230 while those in the United Kingdom go home with £494,285.43.

The list is followed by lawmakers from India, who earn $474,484, Singapore with $253,469, and Tanzania with $230,961. It will be recalled that the Nigerian government has been spending a total of N150 billion per year on the NASS but has been forced to step it down to N120 billion this year following rising outcry that the lawmakers are taking too much from the Federation Account leaving little for other sectors.

Read more at: http://www.vanguardngr.com/2015/10/revealed-at-last-salary-and-allowances-of-nass-members/

But Kenyans sha........

They can like awoof oooh!!

Which kind sauce be lifedrama abi na condiment be this sef.......

Na only one person iPhone whey e break Ooh, na e everybody now dey claim say e break their iPhone (both the wan whey dey use torchlight phone, Techno blackberry and Infinix Galaxy).............

Diaris God Oooh.........

ALISMILE:
ur entire post reek of ignorance to high heavens. What immunity does a justice of the supreme court has that he can't be arrested?
Don't forget Osibanjo, the proff of law, is the number two man in this govt.
Proff Itse Istage, another proff of law, is workin as an anti corruption consultant with the govtas well.
I dont ve time nw to engage u well on this issue.

The same immunity senators have with respect to activities that go on in the senate..................activities that happen in-house in the senate are immune from legal action or interference (according to the standing rules of the house) at least at the first instance. When the house committees on Rule and Ethics in the senate is still there??


The same applies to the Judiciary. How can you be arresting and preparing a Judge for trial over his conduct in handling another trial without properly referring the matter to the NJC (Nigerian Judicial Council) first??


I asked a simple question - you tactically ignored it, choosing to call me an ignoramus instead for lack of an intelligent way to express your sentiment/bias without looking like a naïvee child - or better still, take it and re-ask any lawyer you know personally the same question;

Which Judge/Justice in the whole Federal republic of Nigeria is qualified to entertain a case in his court on the ethics/conduct of a Sitting Supreme Court Justice in handling another Trial??


And for your information, it doesn't matter whether Osibanjo or Itse Sagay or whoever is a Professor. What is against the law is against the law. Period..........


After all, Prof Sagay is a consultant on anti-corruption cases to Buhari, but yet they somehow managed to bungle Saraki's and Ekweremadu prosecution in court for forgery and now they have withdrawn it.............me and some Educated/well exposed gentlemen (and ladies may I add ) whey no be Professors of Law on Nairaland don talk am since say that case no dey go anywhere.


Whether Senate President or Deputy is responsible for clerical duties of providing senate rules to the house whey una wan prove for court say them forge am; una no talk. So tay, Omenka, PassingShot and other strangely-coupled bed fellows have to comment their reserve on the trial withdrawal. After them done make both mouth, hand, belle and yanssh for Nairaland upandan say Saraki/Ekweremadu dey go jail.


Dasuki's case at the ECOWAS court too bungled - they have also bungled Dasuki's EFCC cases and that's why they will make sure Dasuki doesn't make the EFCC trials before the 2019 election otherwise, Buhari's popularity will tank and enter 6ft below the ground and he may lose elections.

Dasuki is detain indefinitely under a spurious allegation of threat to National security by DSS, after them use Media trial to find him guilty of stealing $2.1billion. Meanwhile, the total sum on the charge sheet is roughly $370million.

It was Dasuki's case he used to start this witch-hunt which is now christianed as an infamous Anti-corruption drive (without spare tire may I add).................


Does that mean Prof Sagay is so dumb, that he didn't know to advise them on the best way to secure a conviction for Saraki/Ekweremadu or even Dasuki?? And who told you sef that Prof Sagay has prior knowledge of this brazen and foolish arrest??

I repeat my question; Which Judge/Justice in the whole Federal republic of Nigeria is qualified to entertain a case in his court on the ethics/conduct of a Sitting Supreme Court Justice in handling another Trial??


When you find the answer to that question, then you will understand why there is even a thread for such madness on Nairaland........................................................ and your current level of education/exposure would have improved by 2years (part-time diploma in law).....shiioooooooor!!.................

EMMYLBANKS:
the mods ehh, make i no just talk





but all this mods on nairaland dey vex me shaa



i just dey look them,dem dey form super hero for here

MY friend, you better remove that red wrapper why you take dey do superman costume sharp sharp


Otherwise ehhn; the release from your next ban go be vision 2050.........

EMMYLBANKS:
the mods ehh, make i no just talk





but all this mods on nairaland dey vex me shaa



i just dey look them,dem dey form super hero for here

MY friend, you better remove that red wrapper why you take dey do superman costume sharp sharp


Otherwise ehhn; the release from your next ban go be vision 2050.........

ALISMILE:
what if the judges re crooks?

@ san316 et al.

You don't understand the magnitude of the foolishness/lawlessness of these arrest.

If the Judges commit criminal offences they could be arrested - but procedure is long and involves NJC. But the Judiciary, just like the legislature and executive is an arm of government. And their affairs are regulated internally via procedures within their individual systems and are not subject to legal action - at the first instance.

Arresting a judge for unethical conduct or any other issue in relation to handling a case/trial is Legal Harkiri, it is haram.

It is even more stupid when you go after the heads of the Highest court/Judiciary in the country (Supreme court Justices).

Which judge will they present that kind of case to?? It will be thrown out immediately now.

Which judge/justice in the whole Nigeria is qualified to hear a case of unethical conduct in handling a case/trial/court proceedings committed by a Sitting Justice of the Supreme court??

When the Nigerian Judicial Council is there??

All they would have done is table their matter to NJC. It will immediately retire them or remove them from office - if the evidence is substantial enough - then you can re-package them for prosecution for "indiscriminate sneezing in public" or corruption if you like.

And when did the DSS become responsible for handling corruption cases in this country - abi EFCC don get ear infection too

The only time DSS is empowered to make such brazen arrests and breaking down people's doors at 9pm in the Night; is only when it borders on National Security (that is what they are using to detain Dasuki indefinitely without trial and refuse to release him to court to answer EFCC trials).

You invade the house without a search warrant (I know they didn't have one because no Judge will give them a license to commit lawlessness) or arrest warrant (I know becase you can't arrest a sitting Judge of the supreme court); what stops the judges from denying the money and insisting that DSS broke into their houses and planted the money there and then demand damages or compensation for harassment in equal sum of the amount of money (or a part of it) alleged confisticated from their homes.

You don't enforce the law by the breaking the law. It could nullify whatever case you try to put up in court - that is assuming you are going to court - no matter how concrete the evidence is.

This is why this action is wrong; foolish, reckless, dumb.

Infact, even a zombie cannot praise this kind of action. Na complete imbe.cile, an imp, a simpleton of immense proportions go look this kind thing call am anti-corruption drive.

Plus has anyone even noticed that they are trying to say that the monies allegedly found on the judges, was bribe money issued to the Judges by both serving and past governors - from the PDP - in handling of certain cases.

Anti-corruption drive my left nut....

kcnwaigbo:
The executive can do the arresting but it is still the judiciary that will adjudicate over the case.You will soon know how powerful the judiciary is.

Leave am jare, no mind am.

E nor know say, Judiciary na arm of government.

Na person like am dey talk like Godwin Obaseki say "there are 3 arms of government, you have the governor, the deputy governor and the Speaker of the House of assembly........"

tit:
you know naw,
"fools rush in ...

where angels fear to thread....

Just had a thought and I couldn't help but laugh.

This man will never learn lesson.

This was exactly how he was sending squads to arrest people all in the name of corruption back in 1983/84.

And everything was sweet, good and pleasant.........until the same squad arrested him and kicked him out of power..........

The same man was now crying fowl, but by then power don change hands.

I dey just imagine, all these rubbish dey happen; e no talk, e dey form Don Jazzy......what if the same DSS arrest am, come Newspaper come talk "DSS arrests Buhari, finds $2billion in his personal quarters......" Na that time e go start to talk, before e own eye go clear.......

Akainzo:
Which part of our law gives immunity to judges?
Which part of our laws says judges can't be arrested?

If a judge commits a crime of rape, is it NJC that will decide the matter?

Judges are protected within the context of doing their constitutional job and that does not include committing crimes.

While you are advising people to read, please read up on the Nigeria Administration of Criminal Justice Act 2015 and wonder why our judges aren't following it. Why are judges choosing the laws to practice?

Are you even aware that the issues that prompted the arrest of these judges - possibly without a warrant for their arrest - involves cases handled by these judges

Well; let me not talk. The last time I use my thumbs to argue this type of thing that is pointless to argue, it was Dasuki's case on one hand and Saraki's case on another.

So far, we all know the How Saraki saga dey go in court, na dasuki own we dey wait make e mature - ecowas judgement dey ground but e remain small make e mature - By the time judge dismiss Dasuki because of the inability for FG to produce Dasuki because DSS no provide am, una go know. That way all these noise about anti-corruption drive whey no get spare tire go rest.

TheGoodJoe:

I will mention you for all I care. As a smart educated man who knows the rule of law, what part does a judge found with bribe money in his bed room account to the rule of law.

Abuse me for all I care. I wonder how an educated man who calls another illiterate goes around abusing.

If it is not foolishness or just illiteracy that is worrying people that think like this; after arresting him with DSS, EFCC, ICPC, OPC or fulani herdsmen; isn't it the court that you will take them to, to prosecute them.

At the end of the day, they will still refer to the law books that you were hoping to bye pass (see Dasuki and Nnamdi kanu's case as an example).

So why not just humble yourself, read the damn laws book or get someone who has studied them professionally (they are called lawyers may I add) and prosecute them according to the same law.

Dundee united.....

Bossontop:
Heheh!!

That ATM resemble GTB own oooh!!

ancientbanana:
all Muslims are the same, intolerant n violent in nature.

No matter how they want to make it look. This is the truth, the whole truth and Nothing but the truth...........I have heard a billion times, that islam is a religion of peace. But some of the most hostile people, especially when an issue bothering on religious beliefs or ideologies come up are muslims.......


In the whole world, they are known for acts of violence. You call me a liar?? Make a comment that disparages their alleged prophet of peace, or islam or allah (even if it is in error); and you may end up losing your life - in any continent of the world you may find yourself.

And that's why, unfortunately for them, Muslims are always associated with terrorists. Because that potential and propensity for hostility and violence ia a common attribute they both share.

No matter what they want to call their religion, whether na religion of peace ooh, religion of perfection, religion of love. Na only their own, them they use violence dey defend and that's the sincere truth.

Even look at Nairaland. Seun - who most people beiieve is an atheist, me nor know for sure - has to create special rules just to accomodate their own section for Nairaland (before person whey be muslim for e area whey e nor know butcher am for e sleep).

Until they begin to adopt the orientation of peace - even in the midst of what they believe amounts to provocation - am sorry, world over they will be view as terrorists in waiting and their way of life a violent one as opposed to a religion of peace........

timay:
Mind u, Allah is not an Hausa language but Arabic. so Allah is not God in Hausa language

Okay!! Please enlighten us; what is God in the Hausa language.........??

INDUSTRIALFAN:
There are no capable hands.... yes but most times, the joy of having such cars is being able to order for parts or improvising and fixing it yourself that people begin to wonder how such a rare piece is still at top shape and performance..... I watch car shows on TV where you see white guys do things that our kazeems here say are impossible to do on some cars.... e.g a petrol engine vehicle undergoing a simple and crude modification to run on only petrol fumes which gives you hundreds of miles on only a gallon of fuel or widening the tire hull of a 1998 Benz C 200 to use an SUV Rim and it rolls effortlessly without rubbing.... nothing is impossible bro....

Chai!!! All this industrialfan sef whey no gree blow better breeze!!

Wetin Kazeem do una again Oo!??

Person no fit born pikin, name am kazeem, drink water, keep cup and get rest of mind.......na wa for wire road for una........

Kazeem don suffer finish

Kazeem kor, Buhari Ni.......

Denn:
You don't know the value of an SL classic

Money whey reach to put person inside better 07/08/09 Camry SE. Or even Lexus RX 330 or Hyundai Elantra or Clean S class benz or Solid newer C class benz or 06 ML350........in short the list is endless

You whey sabi better "classics"; oya buy make MotorConnectz and e padi smile to the bank.

Classics kor!!!

ayobase:
You never ready sell car.

Chaaai!!!

Wicked people full Nairaland sha!! This recession no be beans sooo!!

Sai Baba!!

anigbajumo:


People don't understand that those wise fools are only pulling the legs of the masses.First of all,FG doesn't realized this saga.

Senators kabiru marafa and hunkuyi were the ones who went to court that the Senate rules were forged to elect principal officers of the Senate when the unity forum lost out in producing the senate president and the deputy. The police investigated and found out that it was true and recommended their prosecution to the Attorney General and minister of justice who incidentally inherited the case, but because of the rancour in the senate, the two senators were given juicy committees from the ones they had before, kabiru marafa to oil downstream, they both in turn notify the Attorney General of their intention to discontinue with the case.

People are just shouting Tinubu/buhari here and there,the hatred for PMB/Tinubu is real........

Nice try..........from the very beginning, even a fool can tell that the trial was a failure.

How did they propose to even prove in court that Saraki and Ekweremadu forged the rules??

I can remember Dino Meleye raising alarm over an attempt to change the initial statement of the clerks by the IPO of the case; to make them say that Saraki and Ekweremadu joined them to forge the rules. That didn't work and that's why we are here now........

Keep living in denial.

AroOkigbo:
#smh
Is that supposed to be an excuse? ?
What happens to the instruments of good governance with all the powers at bu.bu's disposal??

Instrument ke? Tà lo'je bè........Instrument ba wo?

All Baba has to do is to pass the message of his good intentions towards these people with the right body language..............abi na body odour

badassProdigy:
After months away from the spotlight, 27-year-old Bread hawker turned model, Olajumoke Orisaguna, surfaced on the red carpet of the 2016 edition of Elite Model Look staged on Saturday, October 1, in Lagos.

http://www.certifiednaija.com/2016/10/olajumoke-orisaguna-stuns-on-red-carpet.html?m=1

At second Pisure.......When your foundation is brighter that your future...

ba7man:
What would it have cost you to reply him nicely.

It will cost him nothing but good manners!


U know ehh, with the way hunger dey beat some people nowadays for this kind Change. Some people sell their Good manners as scrap, use am take buy amala, make hungry for nor kill them...

So just free that your question abeg......

teepsee:
but in a serious note, what has dangote have to do with this issue nah.


When the mass learn how to channel there anger to the right people at the right time. Until then, the leaders will always do as they feel like any time any day.

By the way where is the country located self.

E dey for back of Shoprite building, Sambisa forest branch.........

diportivo:
And u r who?his mouthpiece

Emeka

On behalf of fellow retailers like me,I hereby stamp this thread for further derailment

Seconded..........

spartacus11:
yes i did watch it live. lets take a look at one of pdp claims

inec details

Number of accredited voters : 74 ,076

APC : 37, 612

PDP: 30 , 492

Total valid votes : 69 , 401

Rejected votes : 4 , 311

pdp details

Oredo LG results

PDP: 55, 368

APC: 22, 110.

pdp fail to give us the number of canceled vote and also the number of accredited vote

but either way the result claim of pdp can not stand because the vote of pdp and APC is already above inec record of number of accredited voters

inec accredited to vote 74. 076 this is not vote cast but accreditation and pdp result of vote cast for pdp and apc is 77.478

so how come that the record of pdp shows the number of vote cast are more than the accredited voters that is purely over voting

so pdp should come out clean and explain better because this are technicalities

are pdp now saying the number of accredited voters is more than what inec declared, pdp wil be made to show evidence of the voters register and do not forget in every election they will surely be canceled vote and so if we add other party vote to pdp record and also the cancelled vote it will now mean that inec accredited up to 90.000 voters

pdp will have to provide the voters register where up to 90.000 people were accredited for oredo as against inec record of 74.076
you don't just float figures this is mathematics, and for pdp 5 is greater than 19

Good.......Since you said you watched it live - unlike me who listened to it live, on radio, with earpiece - did any of the INEC adhoc officials in the course of giving breakdown declare any polling unit results that where cancelled because they didn't use Card readers for the elections Yes or No!!??

AntiIPOB:
Dasuki is a criminal and he will remain in prison for a long time,if ecowas court is established to shield criminals,they should start with another country not Nigeria.How many people have they compared to pAy such damage in the past?
Nonsense,we nigeria is not under the influence any forign rubbish.

Well! For now, whether Dasuki is a criminal is simply a matter of opinion.......why? Only a court of competent legal jurisdiction - and not the media - decides who is a criminal and who is not.

As far as the document used to enforce law and order is concerned,dasuki is not a criminal........and if the federal government doesn't have anything to hide, then they should be eager to prove him a criminal in court.....

And if what you say about the order of the ecowas court being of no effect on Nigeria; then why did the Nigerian government send legal representative to speak for it in that court...?

This same sentiment of yours was brandished by Nigerians the last time we had a case at the ECOWAS court and today, Bakassi peninsula has been ceded to the Cammeroonians.

The Irony of the matter is that the very document which we regard as a legal statute - The Nigerian Constitution - is Technically what the ECOWAS court is still trying to enforce on us.............and some Nigerians dey para for Nothing.

Okay, if una no wan follow una own constitution, wetin una wan follow?? Holy Grail??

stevepee42:
After the election , I came to understand that most of the people shouting POI POI POI are not from Edo state.

At the federal level, I may not support APC ........please leave us alone .we want APC .......simple!

There is a concept called "Differences in Opinion".

I am from Edo state, my father is from Edo state, my mother is from Edo state and I don't want APC there.

So you too leave the rest of us alone................abi no be so!!

spartacus11:
wat u fail to see total cancelled vote is 30.000, are u now saying pdp did not do tub printing in their own strong hold? so forensic is not only cancelling APC vote but also pdp, that is why pdp is only pushing for recount only the places dey knew dey lost and not were dey won. because they know hoe much of their vote will be canceled,
inec did not stop any body from voting because of card reader, they were all giving incidence form to fill and they all voted, so do not think it is only pdp that has evidence? after all APC is claiming they won 15 LGA mot 13 which means pdp will not be the only one fighting for re count of vote.

I have only one question for you - and I want you to answer me sincerely - did you watch or have you listened to the final collation and announcement of the results, Yes or No!!

AntiIPOB:
Pathetic,let's see wether they get kobo.shishi dasuki no go see,is ecowas court superior to Nigerian constitution.

As a matter of fact, the Nigerian constitution is the highest legal document in the land and is Supreme.

But! Nobody forced us to sign charters making us subject to the ECOWAS court.

The court asked for damages of #15million to be awarded to Dasuki plus cost of Dasuki's legal fees - Dasuki can always say his lawyers fees is #1billion if he likes e no concern anybody .

If they ignore this ruling, it only plays to the narrative that the Nigerian government disobeys court orders...............considering that this ruling was issued in dasuki's absence and till now the DSS has refused to release Dasuki to attend any of his EFCC cases where they are accusing him of fraud and illegally diverting public funds.

The question remains; why has Federal government refused to allow Dasuki to appear in court to defend himself against the charges. Why prosecuting him in court and the media with EFCC and then detain him without any legal cause using DSS??

Is it possible that FG doesn't have any real case that can be proven in a court withy competent Jurisdiction??

They can't lock up Dasuki forever and if he dies there Buhari is forever in soup....

Time will tell all.............

President99:
If were PDP, I would not be deceived by confidence of lawyers claiming they can deliver.
The best PDP might get is overall nullification, which APC might still rig if truly they rigged the first one as alleged. Moreover, I thought the Pastor said he has left his case to God

Not entirely true!!

If you have followed the antecedence of Tribunals and court cases. You will see a clear differences in outcomes of judgement.

PDP never really complained at the Collation about financial inducement of voters. Its outside the brief of the returning officer and has got nothing to do with the electoral process..............tribunals are hard-wired to protect electoral processes while court are hard-wired to protect sovereignty expressed through casted votes.

Issues I would present before the tribunal and the courts - if I were Ize iyamu's legal counsel - is in the area cancellation as a result of over-voting.

Then the question of whether or not the absence of a functional card reader is a just basis for cancelling votes (the court will always insist that such votes should be made to count).........especially when party agents and observers can attest to elections holding such areas plus the testimony of ward 10 of ikpoba okha - who are still waiting for elections to take place in their area after they have already declared obaseki governor.

He should simply call for a recount of all ballot cast using forensics - of both invalidated and valid votes plus a re-enactment of elections in areas like ward 10 of ikpoba okha. That's all he needs to win.

If he goes for total cancellation due to rigging, he will lose flat.......the court will shy away from nullifying any vote cast.

Plus all he has is the appeal court as his last bus-stop so he has to be careful what he asks for. Else he will lose...........

smirn:
The over voting mostly came from electorates who have case with the card reader. The alternative use of incidents form to enable those affected by the card reader did not take place immediately. Also, know that the decision to cancel a unit result is not within the power of those INEC staff at the unit level. As the collation progresses, issue are been raised on why total vote exceeds those recognized by the card reader hence reasons for possible cancellation. All documentation of the cancelled result as signed by representatives of the parties are still very much available with the electoral body. The way you are wailing on this election even when you didn't vote, what if you voted maybe by now only God know where you have been. Just wait, I will send you the losers number so you can advise him.

Wooow!! Wailing?? Something fundamentally out of place happens in my country and in my state of origin; I choose to comment on it and you call it wailing??

Like I said, it still goes to show that you have almost zero knowledge of the electoral processes that guarded the elections in edo state. Plus you also didn't listen to the collation live like I did, so you are at liberty to speculate.

For your information, the rules of engagement before the election were clear; no card reader no election. So your opinion about over-voting isn't quite practical.

If your card reader isn't working, notify your local-REC to immediately bring another one for use. Also, volunteers are mostly used at the polling units.

Also your comments about power of cancellation is also false. I haven't had the priviledge to oversee elections in this country at any level but I have had many colleague who have in many states including edo.

Ordinary NYSC Corper at a polling unit can declare election at a polling unit cancelled. Even in some wards and in Oredo, there was a case of a ward where the polling officers failed to exercise discretion - his card reader failed midway and they stopped voting immediately - unfortunately they weren't able to douse tension and when people started raising protests, they cancelled the elections.

When collation was taking place, it was also noted that the number of accredited voters was less than actual ballot cast and the question was also raised - but RC102.3FM cancelled the broadcast when the local-REC was trying to answer - why was there over-voting and why is the number of ballot cast lower than number of accredited voters - inspite of voting and accreditation taking place pari-pasu.

The only part of the answer heard before the broadcast was cancelled at that point was that "some people do accreditation and choose not to vote....." And then the broad cast was cut off. For me that part of the answer was hogwash, seeing that voting took place pari-pasu with accreditation. As soon as you are accredited you vote - so why will wait to accredit and choose not to go to the next. Table with my ballot paper to vote??

There will definitely be invalid votes, where the thumbprint overlaps and hits 2 different parties. That's normal, especially in rural areas. But over-voting giving the current rules of engagement is equivalent to ballot box stuffing.

For you information also (because it is clear to me that you are highly un-informed), there were a good number of wards were card readers didn't work at all and were never used but the polling officers held the elections anyway.

All result from such wards were declared cancelled, they were not even collated as part of the total results.

There was also a case of a clumsy officer who simply stated the votes for each party and refused to give breakdown. When asked, he simply said that he had an accident with his laptop screen and cannot see anything and so can't get the breakdown. His own area results too was in contention but the Returning officer asked for leniency since he said he was involved in an accident.

Any person who is educated enough and intelligent would sight grounds on which to challenge the result/elections.

Oredo for example has over 200,000 registered voters - 273,614 to be precise - but only 74,076 where captured during the elections for reasons of over-voting, cancellations, security etc

Like I said before, as far as the rules of engagment is concerned - for those who are informed about the facts- over-voting is impossible and where it exists amounts to ballot box stuffing or a tampered database or a faulty card reader. And that is a product of a rigged system.

Ize-iyamu may have a strong case to put up, if he has the finances and a strong and intelligent lawyer who know how to put up a good fight.........