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Ijebu are complete badasses, and have had this reputation for 200+ years. I didn't know the same was true about Ebga though.

Hrm, looks like they were Oyo refugees: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egba_people

Pretty annoying that my Ekiti are so laggardly amongst the Yoruba clans. . . . guess we are the redneck equivalent

Why is Ogun so much more vibrant than the other Yoruba states?

And similarly with Anambra and the SE.

fstranger3:
Does any one have the 411 on Ota farm?

Is he making profits and what does he have on his farm?

Large scale, mechanized farming is HUGELY profitable. My uncle tells me 30%+ ROI. I listened to some lectures this weekend discussing farming in southern Africa; I don't have the notes I took handy, but they are getting margins like this as well.

I dunno what OBJ is farming specifically though, or how he is doing.

Aigbofa:
People are moving away from agriculture because it is very labour intensive, and mechanised farming can be very expensive as well. But, for a country like Nigeria, I can't think of anything more profitable than agriculture if you have the means.

Yep. It is out of the financial reach of most people to setup a mechanized farm. You need a lot of land, technology, and cash to start it up.

AjanleKoko:
I can't really say much for the South East. They've managed to create their own internal trade networks within that region, and like the OP said, managed a reasonable transfer of wealth back home. But funny enough, apart from the trading activities in Onitsha and Aba (which incidentally still flows through Lagos), I don't really see much going on in the South East.

I need to one day visit Igboland and see what exactly they are doing there. I know so little about that region. What exactly do they trade or make? What is their competitive advantage? I've heard of "Aba-made". . . but how are they doing this at competitive prices w/o electricity and with the competition of China?

Interesting.

^--- I see that you are enjoying this wellu wellu 

Beautiful pictures.

^-- This is actually the right time to enter agriculture, imo. Food prices worldwide are projected to increase rapidly. So there will be more money to be made over the next 20-30 years in agriculture.

Cocoa might not be the right crop, but certain other things (e.g., rice) might be.

Hrm. I'm told that acquiring big, contiguous plots of land in the SW is difficult though 

Less densely populated places like the middle belt are supposed to be a better bet.

Akanbi_edu:
Weapons are necessary, but its more necessary to have people with iron minds, die-hard kind of people. The world is for the bold. It is also important to have more yorubas study history, philosophy, sociology etc instead of everybody in sciences and business.

This I disagree with  Take a few courses in those things in HS/college, read up in your free time. But we absolutely must focus instead on profitable things like science, engineering and business, not things that don't pay well.

At the end of the day, you need money to accomplish things. Historians, philosophers and sociologists don't get paid. Some scientists, most engineers, and most business people do get paid, though.

asha 80:
that was in the then eastern region not western region.

Heh, my bad. Should have used a cocoa example. Hrm, I'm actually not sure why cocoa farming died in the SW. I need to read up and learn what caused it.

I don't want to give up on research. There are some niches we could choose to dominate. Heathcare is potentially one; there are many others.

But almost all of these things require 24/7 power supply. There is no point talking about Ibadan (or any other city in Nigeria) becoming a research leader in anything (especially biology-related! Most of these bio experiments require very precise environments, which you need refrigeration and thus electricity to get!) until we face this power issue.

So that is what I mean about Nigeria not being a country where these things will be useful. . . yet.

A very impressive individual.

Missy85:
eku, just been busy, but all is well. hope you're cool too.

In my view, over the next 25 yrs, Ogun state will prob emerge as the most industrialised state in Nigeria.

Agreed.

But Ibadan/Oyo state need not despair & throw in the towel. Ultimately, the battel to be won is not just about 'industrialisation' but about 'development.' In this battle, Ibadan has a secret weapon which it can unleash to torpedo itself back up the rich league - that weapon? revert to being one of Africa's pre eminent research & education centres.

It is tough  Nigeria is not yet a country where R& is likely to have a huge impact. I'm not sure what the best path is for Oyo State. We just don't have the competitive advantage here in Africa, aside from possibly South Africa, imo.

EzeUche_:
He did not flee. By most accounts, he was look for more help from France, since we all know the British was giving tons of support to the Nigerian Federal Government to keep their Nigerian experiment alive. Point BLANK!

Trying to peddle more lies, I see. My people are not known to flee. We die where we stand. Better to die on my feet than live on my knees.

I have stuff to do today, so hopefully someone else will type up the relevant sections from that book.

Long story short though, looks as if Ojukwu is being a bit disingenuous.

@PhysicsMHD: Re-read pages 396-399 of the John de St. Jorre book and tell me if you still have the impression.

Dude fled.

Akanbi_edu:
Thats why we keep our touts (agberos) all over the place. Imagine if this kind of scenario degenerated to inter-tribal wahala, who do you think will face the Ijaw boys?
This is the reason they keep the almajiri's in the north too.

Thats why some of us prefer Tinubu ahead of Fashola in the Nigerian equation. We need both the good and the bad guys

Yep, the Tinubus of the world are necessary in this jungle called Nigeria. Wish it could only be Fasholas, but realistically you need both 

BTW, the panic exhibited by our people nowadays is worrisome, something needs to be done.

We need some sort of weapons manufacturing facility in Yorubaland. It wouldn't cost that much to start. There are villages in Pakistan noted for their ability to handcraft AK-47s of pretty good quality at low prices. . . definitely something we could do too.

Is Alhaji Harem secretly the commander of Boko Haram? 

pleep:
Good points. also privatised electricity will be good for busineses, something i didnt think about when i made this thread.

Indeed. And what is good for manufacturers is good for job growth. So the overall impact would be quite massive.

excanny:
@Eku-bear

Do you even know the meaning of tribalism? Did I attack any group?

Come on now. Insinuation is enough. Or can you only be called out if you say something explicitly?

Anyway, the point I was trying to get across can not easily be deciphered from this topic here, and as such, seem too philosophical for you to grasp. But those insightful enough understand what I was infering.

Lol. As if there is anything YOU could ever say in your life that is too complex for me to understand.

I dunno whether the GDP/state figures are accurate, tbh. . . #s seems a bit odd. But I don't have any better data. If someone has a better reference, please post.

He doesn't present his ideas well, but they aren't bad. I find myself agreeing with him more and more as time progresses.

Kennyblues:
What the heck with what the young man did, he was only carrying out his oversight function as a Minister of Youth and Sport afterall those girls are still youths. Dancing and drinking is a kinda sport in Rwanda, Beaf all the way

This Rufai guy. . . would he be a good president? How did he do running the FCT?

happy birthday!

Andre Uweh:
This thread should not be in politics section.
Mods, take over.

Don't be a debbie downer, man:
https://ielstyle.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/debbie_downer.jpg

These people need to face the problems of Ekiti and stop delusional dreams.

Pick one area where you have comparative advantage, thoroughly dominate it. Anything else is useless.

EzeUche_:
Hindus can be very violent. The anti-Muslim riots in Delhi and Mumbai were very brutal. Even Slum Dog Millionaire illustrated this.

I loved that movie.

Hrm, Otta is pretty intriguing: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ota,_Nigeria

This too: http://www.shell.com.ng/home/content/nga/products_services/solutions_for_businesses/natural_gas/

Pipelined NG runs through Otta. So ideal place for starting a manufacturing plant, or any sort of electricity intensive business.

Very interesting. So maybe that is the place to be.

fstranger3:
From your own perspective, what makes Ibadan more suitable than Ekiti?


Other than its closeness to lagos, I see no difference btw Ibadan and Ekiti, If it was me, I'd rather set up in Otta than Ibadan

Ibadan is a huge market. Great university nearby (U of I), so I can find good employees. Less commute time to Lagos. Cheap.

What do you like so much about Otta?

Good.

KnowAll:
Contrary to popular belief Ibadan is actually the town to live, I have mixed with several Yoruba’s who live in London, many of them who grew up in Lagos b4 sojourning abroad said they would re-locate to Ibadan rather than Lagos obviously if they come to a bit of money they might consider other cities and that includes Lagos.

Lagos is over-priced and I belief for many people it is better u live in Ibadan than live in Agege, Ijaiye and Ottah. How many talking can afford Eko Atlantic City if it comes on-board. It would just be like Banana Island.

You can easily open a little cottage industry for less than N2 million in Ibadan and benefit from it.
Yorubawood a subsidiary to Nollywood is HQed  in Ibadan. Despite the lack of substantial investment in Ibadan since this civilian dispensation, Ibadan has still managed to punch above her weight.

I agree with this. I sort of want to move back to Nigeria one day and start a tech company. I'll probably have to have an office in Lagos, but I'd try to do the bulk of the work in Ibadan, if possible. Just a cheaper place to live.

Yorubaland hasn't had a universally acknowledged leader since Awolowo. Certainly we do not have one today.