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Genuflect:
eldee, me I don refrain to dey exchange words with El Razur when it comes to all these 'Naija Music Industry' yearns. Each to his own jor

And your point is? Here, add me to your ignore list.  Cheese.  

eldee:
It's actually 'ginger your swagger'

Ginger is just a Nigerian-ish slang for 'emphasize', 'heighten' or 'increase'
So it's more like telling everyone to show-off.

Actually, that was a post aimed at Ibkaye's question.

I am yet to see the link between Ginger and the word emphasize et al.

eldee:
C'mon stop being overly critical of these guys . . . they're doing what the fans want.
The slangs actually help in putting urban Nigerian culture into music. . . most times it's just words that are already on the streets.

They're putting in catchphrases that are from the streets, same way MJ had 'beat it' . . . I don't hear you saying he committed murder.

Critical? Erm okay, I will post less or post exactly what you want.

[b]Beat it [/b]was pretty much an American English phrase if memory serves me right [Or could it be from the English saying "beating round the bush"?] . On top of that, it was very easy to understand what it means, say compare to something like[i] Add baby spice ginger to your swagger[/i].

While some phrase I have no issues with. Phrases like "what it do" are nothing but bastardizing English and my point is that it sucks to see people picking it up and making use of it. I also stated that I will prefer a more Nigerian oriented pidgin approach than what these meaningless phrases we hear about.

[quote author=~Bluetooth link=topic=415984.msg5726192#msg5726192 date=1269021907]why cant we adopt this your anaysis to the present nigeria and see if it will work.[/quote]It is yet to work in about half a century. If given the options, I will prefer we try another method. Do you have a problem with this? If so, what are your problems.

[quote author=hatch# link=topic=415984.msg5726156#msg5726156 date=1269021684]It is just out right pathetic that the so called agitators can't even defend how their break up approach
will solve the problems that stare us in the face as a nation, when they are broken into their so called agitated regions.

I knew that becomricch's syndrome was going to spread fast on NL, it was just a matter of time.


[/quote]You are forcing me to drop all gloves with you, but I am still keeping them on.

I suppose when your arguments like Mikeansy have pointed out, you result to shifting the focus on you. The problem here is not defending, the problem is you can't even accept or reason logically. Perhaps it is a waste of time going round in circle with you?

ibkaye:
seriously, does anybody know?

Add ginger to your swagger?

chamotex:
Did I get a shout out?
If not, Krayola better go and do the remix sharp sharp . . . I wont tolerate any disrespect

Clearly you are not thinking like a Nigerian. The next thing you should be looking to do is do a diss tape or stalk him on facebook.

sjeezy8:
@elrazur

lol they come from all regions

Hence why anyone who opposes a break up is an enemy in my opinion.

An enemy of progress.

sjeezy8:
^^^^ who wouldbe the enemy?

The same people who want us in this, when most of us want out?

The same people who feels Nigeria's law is not applicable to them and should have their sharia?

The same people who are living off the misery of millions of ordinary people

The same individuals who holds all to ransome.   .   .

[quote author=~Bluetooth link=topic=415984.msg5725987#msg5725987 date=1269020366]@elrazur**if the so-called southern states cannot speak with one voice when they are still in one nigeria,what makes you think that we may agree with one aonther if eventually we break into the pattern ghadaffi suggested.seun's controversial poll cannot reflect the minds of millions of nigerians who have no access to internet.we may only opined base on the outcome of such poll but believe me,there are several old men and women who will not support the secession.[/quote]Huh You know what, in real war scenarios, internal division is forgotten once the enemy come. I have a feeling, we will put aside any perceived differences and forge on with the idea of a new regional state or new nation. Everyone cannot be expected to agree on the same thing, but we can still find a common ground.

As per the rest of your comment. I really do not get it.

eldee:
Chei . . . finally person do holla me for song

Time to spray pound sterling for this guy now.

Nice one. Good to see you using those "identity style" of yours.  

**Get's ElRazur's stamp of approval**

[quote author=hatch# link=topic=415984.msg5725793#msg5725793 date=1269018910]@bluetooth

Infact i agree with you by 101%, you see i accept that if Nigeria was ready to have a honest and sincere referendum to determine our future, but you and i know that we as a Nation face further more critical issues that deserve atleast a honest and sincere governance to tackle.

But our pro break up Nigeria squad just think they can agitate with mouth alone via a so called online poll that doesn't even reflect jack !



bet you the aftermath will be worse off than the present situation.  - this they can't see because they may be to short sighted to understand[/quote]Why won't you agree with him? Birds of the same feather and all that. Jeez!

No one says it will be easy. If anything, I have stated that it will be bad in the short run, but miles better off in the long run. It wasn't easy when the Israelites left in search of better place in the bible.   .    .   .    Remember?

It was people like you who went back to Moses, demanding they should go back to their slavery lives. Yeye man.

mikeansy:
After 7 paragraphs the OP neither stated what he thinks are responsible for these problems nor profered a solution for the way forward.

All he did are Abuse, Abuse and Abuse without addressing the core subject . . . . talk about ignorance.

I thought it was only who see am. lmao.

I swear you are deluded and ignorant for pointing that out.

[quote author=hatch# link=topic=415984.msg5725683#msg5725683 date=1269018061]@ Elrazur
Just as i presumed, you will never answer the simple question that i have presented to you on how your gospel according the Nigeria Break Up will solve the present problems on ground. Yet you want us to try a so called another approach.

I suggest you stick to making your beats, where ever it is you are and please let us have some peace instead of agitating for something that will never see the light of day  [/quote]Sorry that I am not keen on something that have been discussed over and over again in an on-going thread.

Last time I checked, this was a public forum.  



[quote author=~Bluetooth link=topic=415984.msg5725701#msg5725701 date=1269018215]who cares about about an online poll to determine the fate of over one million people.lets be factual here atleast for once.the people of nigeria should determine their fate for themselves.i think its better if we conduct a referendum in order to solve this problem once and for all.nigeria cant split on a religion path because some people have families with mixed religions but the major problem will be among the south east,south west and south south.people may say we will sort one another afterall we are educated;i bet you the aftermath will be worse off than the present situation.[/quote]You claimed you do not care, but you are on of those people their head was inside Seun's backside when he changed the poll. Are you sure you really do not care? It clearly do not look like it.

Again, it sucks that you keep spitting the same crap from the previous thread. Elections are continously rigged in Nigeria, what chance do a referendum have?

Yes I agree, Nigeria cannot split on the basis of Nigeria - actually, it can technically, but it is severely flawed option when compared to others, for example breaking up on the basis of tribe, regions etc.

I told you this before and am telling you again. The short run will be bad, but the long term result is what we need to focus on.  Kai. Don't you get tired of repeating yourself?

tkb417:
yeah right,
OBJ lives in Nigeria and im sure hes jealous of Nigerians living abroad
jokers

and for your last line, we should sacrifice what we have for a better good?
Tell me what good the Liberians and Sierra Leoneans are enjoying after the wars

and one more thing, what do you have to lose as a Nigerian? or the Nigerians at home are the ones that should pay with their lives for a better Nigeria. You people are very smart and sensible
i mean the opposite anyways

No. It is the truth.

You are not OBJ and using OBJ further highlights perhaps one of the reason we need to sacrifice for the greater good. After all, whose money is he living on? Here is a clue, money of the common man.

Nigeria is not Liberia. While we may be in the same continent, our problems are not the same. Let us assume they are, it do not automatically mean it will turn out that way. How about the nations that came off the big USSR? Oh wait, you left that one out abi? Nice.

Look the biggest problem is that people like you are selfish and think about what they will lose. This is highlighted in your question - what do I have to lose. The fact is, if it turns ugly, people will die and things will be lost. I am of the opinion that it is sometimes necessary for the greater good. We cannot keep living in this rot we are at the moment for the past 49 years plus.

For the record, I have my own place, families and friends too back home.

frosbel:
He we go again, what has living abroad got to do with clamouring for a break up of the country.

Please grow up and stop all this naivety

Jealousy, envy, fear of losing what they have etc.   Again if that is the case, they are perhaps even more selfish. I.e they are not willing to make the sacrifice needed for the greater good.

tkb417:
@OP
The commong factor amongst those agitating for the break up is that they all live abroad

when they move their asses down here, we'll start believing them. Im sure they have read more than enuff history books, hence the opaks they are chatting.

Source please?

So out of the over 150 people that vote for the break up of Nigeria - before the poll was rigged - Are you honestly suggesting that greater percentage is from those abroad?

So you think your average Nigerian will not vote to see Nigeria try a different approach even if it means breaking up? You seriously do not believe that or do you?

I am disappointed.




WTF IS THAT?

[quote author=hatch# link=topic=415984.msg5725452#msg5725452 date=1269016493]Contrary to your opinion, Gaddafi's contribution to your "pro break-up Nigeria" camp only confirmed that most of you folks are just ignorant and delusional. A privous thread had already suggested that most of you agitating for a break up have your behinds far away . Not to worry, it's not going to happen in a million years  [/quote]How are those who have had enough and wanted to try a different approach ignorant?



I am not a fan of Ghadaffi at all. However, just because he wanted a break do not mean he is ignorant. While, I think his idea of breaking up is severely flawed - on the basis of religion - it do not make him ignorant in my opinion.

The thread was a poll. And before it was rigged by our Nairaland IBB, it was clear people want to try something else. I suppose the majority of the people are also delusional? Okay I hear you.

Okay. Here is a quick translation for those who can't be bothered to read: Anyone with a different opinion from the OP is automatically ignorant and delusional.

Nice.


You know, you should have stated your opinion in the on going thread instead of trying to draw attention to yourself.

EzeCanada:
Neo colonialism still at work

I thought NL'ers are better than this.

Why Grammy, Why not an African or Nigerian based award.

Food for thought for everyone.

The irony! This is coming from a man with "canada" in his name. Oh! Let us use your logic for one minute, why not "Nigeria" or "Togo" in your name why Canada? I guess it is a case of ignorance at work. Food for thought.

People like you disgust me. The thread is about Grammy and if there is home-based artist who can win it. Not some crazy crap you are suggesting.

Yeah you wanted attention and now you have it. Die and quench.

So anyone who disagree with your opinion do not know music?

lmao.

Bump! Anymore?

Speaking of music and what not, you may want to post your studio here like some of us have done.


https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-406062.0.html

When Jesus comes back?

YD:
can sade adu win grammy?

can seal crow win a grammy?

or maybe can sophia okonedo win oscar, ba?

You missed the point. Refer back to my first post in this thread.

You mean do I like Street-word drivel from imbeciles trying to be cool? No. That goes for all American artist who is damaging English language.

I mean, what in the name of Jesus is "What it do"? I am disappointed to see people picking up on this crap and using it as the "in thing". Nah wah o.

I prefer my Nigerian Pidgin than all these crap these people try the unthinking masses to say to be honest.

okeymadu:
Nigeria is capable to handle her problems, So America should just relax.

Like how they handled the Jos issue well well?

Like how them manage Yar'dua's health properly for LUTH?

Like how them manage the national resources effectively abi?

Okay. By the way, shame on you.

[quote author=D_Lloyds link=topic=326413.msg5722054#msg5722054 date=1268989140]In my opinion, there are more beat makers than producers. Beat makers of the lowest cadre are the 100% fruity loopers, above those are dudes who's got a hang of the midi controller. On the other hand, there are some great producers who cant even play an instrument but could tell the instrumentalist what to play.

Audio engineers, I mean the real ones really do exist on nairaland. I know some SAE grads, Protools Operators, Live sound engineers here in Lagos and trust me they qualify. How much more of my trumpet should I blow?[/quote]I agree. I have always shyed away from calling myself the following - a producer, a rapper or singer. I am of the opinion that I am more of a "Hobbyist beat maker". While I have Produced and made my own stuff and released stuff here and there on the net, I am still a Hobbyist and won't even label myself anything.

It is funny how many people call themselves "rapper" but are yet to sell a single CD or have a record deal, or better still recognised as one. [Your best mate calling you a rapper do not count].


There may be well be Producers et al on here, but I think they comprise of very little number.

As per your trumpet, this na nairaland blow am well well.

slap1:
Just wondering what Seun and Kosovo did to this ElRazur guy, just wondering.

One is a clown. The other one lacks consideration for people's view and do as he wants because he own the forum.

I have nothing against them as I haven't even met them. I am merely reacting to how they present themselves on the forum.

It is called playing the race card, once someone ain't getting their way.

Don't SA have her very own weapons industry too?

006:
I can deliver Nigeria in 6 yrs and stabilize it in 2 years. Not a hard thing to do.

And I can Juggle 20 balls of fire, fry egg, chat up a girl and make love to her. . . . All at the same time, it is not a hard thing to do. Honest!

Ibime:
Yawa!!!

By non-proliferation, they mean they dont want nuclear weapons proliferating into black hands.

As they say, OPEN YOUR EYE. No country in the world will voluntarily give up nuclear weapons, cos its the biggest bargaining tool in International trade.

Them white South Africans know they are not Africans otherwise they would never deny their own country the right to own nuclear weapons. They know they might get chased out the country anytime soon, and they dont want to leave such weapons behind.

Right. Is that a fact or opinion? Okay I hear you. I lack the energy tonight.