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PoliticsRe: [there’s No Big Reason Why We Must Be Together As A Country – Agbakoba by EMANY01(m): 11:06pm On Sep 14, 2014
brownlord: Whatever he means with that, i hope Gbawe and group can interpret this
Me too,I'm waiting eagerly for Nairaland APC stalwarts to give their take on that section.
PoliticsRe: [there’s No Big Reason Why We Must Be Together As A Country – Agbakoba by EMANY01(m): 11:03pm On Sep 14, 2014
oduastates: He lost me on that NC thing.
Lagos refusal of regionalism was tactical than any thing else.
In a few years time ,after the founding of odua states , you will know the reason why.
I am sure most people here cannot even name the delegates from Lagos .
They were probably the most intellectually equipped in that whole conference.
All the same , good article from agbakoba
Care to explain? I was shocked when the delegates from lagos did a Volta face in the whole regionalism issue during the national conference.
I n my opinion,I felt they were playing to the claims of some southerners east of ore who claimed that the south west always makes claims and demands to the restructuring of Nigeria but when push come to shove they fail to follow through.
Or was this a case of this thing we have sought for so long is being provided by someone we have told our people that he does not have our interests at heart we will not accept it.
I believe that the SW,SE & SS wasted the opportunity to push through their core agenda/needs at the conference for reasons I have yet to fully understand.If ever another conference is organized it will be under the close supervision of a northerner as president and the latitude that this conference provided will hardly be there.
Not liking Jonathan should not mean willfully sabotaging ones self
PoliticsRe: Tambuwal Set To Declare Presidential Ambition Under APC by EMANY01(m): 7:22pm On Sep 11, 2014
tokunboh: No, you don't know history my brother. It was the clueless GEJ that ceded bakassi to Cameroun. Obasanjo can't do that, it only takes a daft GEJ to do something that is so senseless like that. wink grin
grin grin grin grin cool tongue
Priceless,I have no words......
Foreign AffairsRe: Russian Nuclear Bombers Keep Roaming Closer To U.S. Airspace by EMANY01(m): 6:03pm On Sep 11, 2014
castrogee: Good point! But I don't ever think USA will want to engage Russia in a nuclear conflict. For me it doesn't make any sense, MAD is very much an indisputable fact. Have you noticed Putin's body language lately, he seems unperturbed by everything west and he looks ready to tackle the west in every direction. Mehn that guy is a complete badass, I understand that he is make an encroachment into Estonia and is changing the Russia's military doctrine to a pre-emptive strike approach against the USA.

The whole drama is getting bloody scary.. I sincerely pray that my fears do not begin to manifest.
The US as military entity has the capability to handle the Russian threat but the current US political leadership can not.
That advantage is well known to Putin and he is milking it for all its worth.
Should a strong Republican emerge and win/or tend to win the presidential election in 2016 (a highly evolving possibility) you would see the relations between Russia and Europe /US normalize after Russia would have won some (facts on the ground) concession's.
PoliticsRe: Tinubu’s Health Condition Allegedly Worsens by EMANY01(m): 5:45pm On Sep 11, 2014
"I am aware he was billed to see his physicians for his normal routine medical check-up, he would see his dentist too.”.

Even if the story about tinubu being sick or dying is proven eventually to be false,he sure needs the trip to the dentist because his teeth are so ..........urghhh......There are no words to describe it.
PoliticsRe: Obama: Islamic State 'is Not Islamic' by EMANY01(m): 5:32pm On Sep 11, 2014
The man is an oponu.It is this denial that the western politicians are engaged in that has given Islamic terrorism a strategic advantage today and if not curtailed victory tomorrow.
That victory will not come because a Hitler will rise just when it becomes too much and the the governments can not do anything about it.
If this continues a Hitlers will rise across Europe , North America and the cherished democracies will fall.It won't be more than the next ten to fifteen years.
PoliticsRe: Lit. Col. Adeboye Obasanjo Is Responding To Treatment - Chief Olusegun Obasanjo by EMANY01(m): 10:26pm On Sep 09, 2014
Nigerdeltaboi: what abroad he attended the NMS and NDA respectively.
I'd say even better.
PoliticsRe: A Realist Adressess The Dutch Parliament On Jihardists by EMANY01(m): 9:53pm On Sep 09, 2014
Somebody has woken up to the existential threat that European civilization currently faces.Next the UK, France and Germany for starters....i hope its not already too late.
PoliticsRe: Bola Tinubu's Health In Unfavourable Condition; Fails To Recognise Family In US by EMANY01(m): 9:06pm On Sep 09, 2014
Wish he survives,want him alive to feel the defeat that is coming how way.I pray God Almighty that he not allow death to be his escape.I want him alive and well .
Victoria over a strong and capable adversary is sweeter then default victory over an incapacitated adversary.
PoliticsRe: US Federal Air Marshal Attacked With Syringe In Lagos Airport. by EMANY01(m): 1:42pm On Sep 09, 2014
porka: The story says, Lagos airport



The story says, a public side of the airport.



The footage will be analyzed by the security agencies.
Gracias ammigo.
PoliticsRe: US Federal Air Marshal Attacked With Syringe In Lagos Airport. by EMANY01(m): 1:42pm On Sep 09, 2014
porka: The story says, Lagos airport



The story says, a public side of the airport.



The footage will be analyzed by the security agencies.
Gracias.
PoliticsRe: US Federal Air Marshal Attacked With Syringe In Lagos Airport. by EMANY01(m): 12:23pm On Sep 09, 2014
Onegai: All of you asking for CCTV footage, please give yourselves brain: did they announce that they were looking for the perpetrator? The US has no legal right to even demand the footage be aired publicly, they have no jurisdiction on international soil.

So, if this story is true, it's not the work of a random Naija guy. It's a bit hard to find out the identity of a US Fed Air Marshal (even on planes they don't identify themselves), so how did the attacker know him? That means there's an internal leak (on the part of the US) and the identities of their foreign security staff in Nigeria (whom I believe exist) have been compromised.
No sensible country takes it lightly when agents of an alied state are attacked in its own territory.It has massive intelligence implications.

They should find the attacker. This is not a small something, to be able to identify a US air marshal, the needle attack isn't as important as the identity being compromised. But that's if this story is true and if it is, I will certainly believe the people who planned this attack have access to international/US foreign info (which you can buy if you have links to the right bunch of crooks and terrorists who sell such).
Repeat what you just typed,read it slowly and tell me it makes sense to you.
An agent/legitimate citizens of another state performing his legitimate duty is attacked in your country and you do not care.
Are you waiting until all agents of you country serving in locations outside your country are identified and attacked before you recognize that this may have been the first stage of a move by some third party/countries intelligence service to undermine you country by orchestrating a conflict between your country and that of the affected agent.
Before you say the affected agent had no right in this country it might be wise of you to note that our country Nigeria has people /agents in service of Nigeria's interests active in other countries.
PoliticsRe: US Federal Air Marshal Attacked With Syringe In Lagos Airport. by EMANY01(m): 10:47am On Sep 09, 2014
I'm shocked nobody has asked the pertinent questions:
Which airport?
Where at the airport did this incident occur?
Where is CCTV footage of the incident ?
PoliticsScotland Votes On Separation From The United Kingdom In Two Weeks. by EMANY01(op): 10:08am On Sep 09, 2014
The mighty United Kingdom is facing the most uncertain period in its entire history since world war two and perhaps the peak of the cold war.Until about eighty years ago the United Kingdom(UK) through its empire controlled (politically) about 65% of the worlds populated land mass.
The UK came out of the second world war loosing its hold on over 80% of its colonial territories' over time Nigeria being one of them thus making the end of the British Empire.The end of the cold war was better for the UK in the sense that while it was no longer an empire, its decline was over and it had managed to rebuild and and assert itself as a world power to be reckoned with ,military politically and economically.
Britain is ;

The worlds eight largest economy after
Germany and ahead of France in Europe for
the moment .(http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP)

The worlds fifth largest military ahead of
France and Germany,making it the largest
in Europe.
(http://www.businessinsider.com/11-most-powerful-militaries-in-the-world-2014-4

Those two metrics combined with the U.K.'s membership within a larger European Union and North Atlantic Treaty Organization give it clout the many countries twice and three times its population(63.23 million (2012) could only wish for.Things could not be better for the United kingdom but in less than fourteen days all of it could change.Scotland,the northern part of the country with roughly a third of the Land area/mass of the United kingdom (30,265 sq miles (78,387 km² ) and population of 5.3 million will be voting "YES" or "NO" to separate from the rest of the Union(United kingdom).
The vote is a culmination of years of agitation and negotiations between Scottish nationalist and the British government in London.Already so much has been conceded to the Scottish nationalists to numerous for me to list in this article but apparently not enough for the Scottish people who eventually will decide if they want remain a part of Britain or become their own country.
The lesson(s) to be learnt from this for Nigeria abound.For years various component parts of the Nigerian Federation(?) have complained endlessly about the unfair and uneven distribution of resources and political representation between the regions.On one hand they complain that for all the resources that sustains the national economy 80% is obtained from their region but the see far less investment in infrastructure and development than other regions.Others claim they want true federalism whatever that means but put the breaks on any process that will enable that for real .Yet another group justify their lot and demand more on the basis of the population their region holds claiming that the resources must be sheared equitably amongst the various regions that make up the federation.Looking at the Scottish situation,its relationship with the center (London),I am inclined to say that they the Scottish really have to complain about compared with a country like Nigeria but I remind myself that because I set a low standard for myself does not mean I should judge everyone else by those standards.
The Scotland vote is important because while a yes vote will certainly split the United kingdom and change it in ways that can only be speculated at the moment a no vote will also change the political structure of the country as the government London has committed to devaluation of powers and responsibilities(much like the restructuring we always talk about in Nigeria but never undertake).
Once the process of devolution begins,it is hard to not imaginge the other component units of the United kingdom (Wales,Northern Ireland and even England ) not demanding the same deal.Essentially the political structure of the United kingdom is about to change in many ways.
The lesson for us in Nigeria is to not think that all is well because a few more crumbs have been thrown at the agitating groups or because we have just concluded a national conference whose results and benefits are at best mediocre.
Agitations remain and those agitations are justifiable.To blatantly ignore them like we do now only to give token concessions will benefit the federation in no way.Soon enough it will become a case of armed struggle as we clearly are not civilized enough to go the way of Scotland and the end result will be bad for everyone but most especially for the "reduced" Federal republic.



(http://www.http://edition.cnn.com/2014/09/08/world/europe/uk-scotland-independence/index.html?c=intl-homepage-t&page=0

With less than two weeks to go until Scotland's referendum, polls suggest an increase in those favoring independence from the United Kingdom, with one survey for the first time putting the "yes" vote ahead.

On September 18, voters in Scotland will be presented with a simple yes/no question: Should Scotland be an independent country?

A "yes" vote would mean Scotland splits from the rest of the United Kingdom -- that is, England, Wales and Northern Ireland.

Activists on both sides are stepping up their efforts as the historic referendum approaches.

A YouGov poll conducted for The Sunday Times and released on Sunday showed the "yes" vote at 51% and "no" at 49%. The poll of 1084 voters excluded undecided voters and YouGov said the numbers represented "a statistical dead heat."

YouGov President Peter Kellner said a 2-point gap was too small to predict the outcome of the referendum but demonstrated that support for the "Better Together" campaign had fallen "at an astonishing rate." Four weeks ago YouGov put "no" at 58% and "yes" at 42%, Kellner said.

"The Yes campaign has not just invaded No territory; it has launched a blitzkrieg," he said.

Kellner said voters from the Conservative party had continued to oppose independence but that all other voters had moved closer toward a breakaway Scotland.

Meantime a Panelbase poll commissioned by Yes Scotland and also released Sunday suggested that 48% of voters supported independence -- excluding undecideds -- while 52% wanted to remain united.

A "poll of polls" compiled by ScotCen put the "yes" vote for independence at 47% and the "no" vote at 53%. The company, which describes itself as an independent social research center, said those results were based on three polls from YouGov, two from Panelbase and one from Survation.


It also suggested that the "yes" vote was gaining momentum, while the "no" vote was losing it.

Negative campaign?

The Scottish government, led by the Scottish National Party, says this is a "once in a generation opportunity" for Scotland's people to take control of the decisions that affect them most. A "yes" vote means that "Scotland's future will be in Scotland's hands," it says, and that life will be better and fairer for its people.

Scotland's first minister and SNP leader Alex Salmond has been a vocal proponent of independence.

British Prime Minister David Cameron wants Scotland to remain part of an undivided United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. He says that it is a decision solely for the Scottish people -- but that remaining part of the United Kingdom will give them security and strength. "There will be no going back," he warns.

YouGov said voters felt that the Better Together campaign had been negative, while Salmond was "offering an optimistic future."

"It may be that some voters are finding the prospect of voting for positive and well-presented vision of their country's future as more attractive than the negative mood coming from the No camp," ScotCen commented.

Pound sinks

The British pound sank on Monday, with CNNMoney reporting that it reflected uncertainty over the outcome of the Scottish referendum and an increased risk of a "messy divorce."

Salmond has said he wants Scotland to continue to use the pound in a currency union with the rest of the United Kingdom.


But the three main parties in Parliament -- David Cameron's Conservatives, their coalition partners the Liberal Democrats, and Labour -- have all said that won't be an option.

The referendum could end Scotland's 300-year union with England and Wales as Great Britain and see it launch into the world as an independent nation of some 5.3 million people.

The Scottish government anticipates it would become formally independent in March 2016, ahead of elections in May of that year.

Scotland has long had a testy relationship with its more populous neighbor. The Act of Union in 1707 joined the kingdom of Scotland with England and Wales, but many Scots were unhappy at being yoked to their longtime rival south of the border.

Since 1999, Scotland has had devolved government, meaning many, but not all, decisions are made at the Scottish Parliament in Holyrood, Edinburgh. In May 2011 the nationalist SNP, which had campaigned on a promise to hold an independence referendum, surprised many by winning an outright majority in the Scottish Parliament.

In October 2012, the UK and Scottish governments agreed that the referendum would be held, and the question to be put to voters was agreed on early last year.
PoliticsRe: A Day In The President’s Life by EMANY01(m): 10:02pm On Sep 08, 2014
This article might have been written to spite the President but any reasonable mind that really thinks it through will realize that the life of the president is harder than they can imagine in peacetime and infinitely worse right now.
PoliticsRe: Jonathan’s Hostage Negotiator Puts Him In A Tight Corner. by EMANY01(m): 2:50pm On Sep 08, 2014
lilprinze: Agreed they have been gaining grounds since 2004 but they were not killing people like this then now. if they were killing people like this then OBJ would have dealt with them seriously and as of 2004 nobody ever imagined that Nigerian would ever be like this now
Please if you can not speak the truth,why bother speaking at all.The north has always been volatile with southerners (read people looking like igbos) and non muslims always being the targets of flash mobs in a frenzied killing mood driven by religion and ethnicity .
From 1999 to 2007 there was an average of three riots in the north in states like kano ,kaduna,Bauchi, a few in borno in which truth be told no less than a hundred people were killed (figure for "minor incidents"wink per incident.
Eight years of killings like this,the question we should ask is who did Obasanjo's Administration prosecute for those murders?
The Answer:Not one individual yet clueless Nigerians open their mouths to say if was during Obj,he would have done this he would have done that.......
Is lying to self a necessary requirement to being a Nigerian?
PoliticsRe: Jonathan’s Hostage Negotiator Puts Him In A Tight Corner. by EMANY01(m): 2:26pm On Sep 08, 2014
lyntiffany: Mr man go and read the information given by Davis according to him he said this group started gaining ground 2004 and he informed OBJ about it and the then chief of army staff (patrick Aziz)discarded it, saying there was no terrorist group sprouting in the north. If Obj had looked into the matter and do the needful by now they would be no bokoharam. Stop spewing rubbish.
Azazi and by extension,the military in any case would have been the wrong person /agency to verify the validity or otherwise of that claim.The Department of State Security (SSS) should have been the agency to investigate the information.Alas BokoHaram sprouted from right under their collectively incompetent noses.
Foreign AffairsRe: Russian Nuclear Bombers Keep Roaming Closer To U.S. Airspace by EMANY01(m): 10:11pm On Sep 06, 2014
Arosam: By the time millions of Death body starts piling up, maybe then you will care
There would be no dead bodies,and no need to bury anyone for two reasons:
a) even the buriers would be dead or dying
b) there would be no dead bodies as everyone would have been turned to ash
Foreign AffairsRe: Russian Nuclear Bombers Keep Roaming Closer To U.S. Airspace by EMANY01(m):
PrinxArthur1: have heard about iskander missiles,Russian ICBM capable of destroying 2 size of New york city in 24 hrs, Russia has 15,000 vs US 6500. tanks,Russian fleet of about 30 nuclear submarines,Russia is only country in that its submarines has Nuclear ICBM capabilities,Have u heard of Russian blinder radar (AESA VHF RADAR) ,if it is fitted onboard fighter jet and flown over a war ship/Aircraft carriers it blinds all systems automatically making the ship to sink
If you had any sense,you would have just stopped at bragging about the islander missiles.Not that they are a decisive weapon there being just about 150 or so of them (think US Anti Ballistic Missile Defense system that the US is perfecting), no you had to throw in the AESA radar systems that the US developed and is still miles ahead of every other entrant in the field.
By the way if you are going to brag get your tech knowledge right.
Its a weekend,I really do not feel like educating anyone specially you on Electronic Countermeasures (ECM).

Ship don't just sink because of radio waves,you put holes in them.

If you had any strategic depth whatsoever you would ask yourself if it was possible that the US would invest in the concept of Anti Ballistic Missile Defense for over thirty years and not have tangible results.I am not talking about convectional surface to air missiles(SAM)s ,although the ABM defense system is fundamentally built upon SAM systems.
The US has the doctrine of trying to save as many cities , not just military bases and facilities as they can in a nuclear exchange showing that their people matter.The Russians on the other hand,just try to use weapons of a bygone age for pissing contests yes they have some undeniably good SAMs but those were designed to bring down aircrafts flying a current maximum of 4,520 miles per hour (7,274 km/h) for hypersonic speeds.Ballistic missiles roll in at between 12000 to 15000 miles per hour.
BusinessRe: Lagos City Hotel Rates Are The Most Expensive In Africa by EMANY01(m): 9:06am On Sep 06, 2014
BlackBaron: Nigerian hotels are 'states' on their own. They provide for their own water, security, pay over the odds for fast internet,electricity.

Also the cost factor of building; Our cement prices are the second highest in the world.


In fact... I was wrong we do have the highest cement prices in the world.
Profit margin of 52% for Dangote cement against a global average of 6%. The biggest Cement maker in the world makes only 18%.

A tonne of cement in Vietnam is $67/tonne. Nigerians pay $263/tonne.

Read here

http://aguntasolo.com/tag/dangote-cement/
Now you understand why the American state department cabled reports that were leaked called Dangote a man who "beggars his country" .
PoliticsRe: Jonathan’s Secret Putsch Plan by EMANY01(m): 9:21am On Sep 04, 2014
ooduapathfinder: www.ooduapathfinder.com
By adminadmin

First published on June 28, 2013; republished on June 10, 2014 and is being republished today in the light of the recent revelations made by Stephen Davis, the Jonathan-appointed negotiator with Boko Haram, who revealed that Gen Ihejirika and Ali Modu Sheriff are major sponsors of Boko Haram. Part of the revelations include these sponsors’ identification of potential and actual targets; which also proves that the militarization of elections and Gen Ihejirika’s replacement with Gen Minimah, an Ijaw like the president, were not coincidental.



A PRESIDENT’S SECRET PUTSCH PLAN UNCOVERED—- JANUARY 15,1966 ALL OVER AGAIN?
Even as Nigeria’s next Presidential election is billed for early 2015, frantic preparations are being made by various political forces to upend each other, as at now, which, on the surface, points to a preparation for democratic contest in progress. Forces loyal to the incumbent President Jonathan are strategizing in a most determined manner. Jonathan’s men seem no longer ready to take hostages in the build-up to the great political contest ahead, as witnessed and being witnessed in the on-going face-off within the Nigerian Governors Forum. Big political office-holders within and outside the president’s political party who refuse to fall in line behind him are already haring their balls on fire. On the other side of the contest is an evolving rain-bow coalition of all manner of adversaries unified by a common desire to oust the ruling party one of whose leaders once boasted would rule the country for another sixty years.
This coalition is rainbow indeed for it not only brings together unlikely allies and what some call “strange-bed fellows from the North West, the North East and the ever dissenting Yoruba southwest”, strategic talks are already going on between coalition leaders and influential persons and forces even within the ruling party. The political atmosphere is suffused with the promises of an exciting drama of democratic contest, come 2015. However this promise may be blown up in smoke if the PLAN B of the President and his most loyal and trusted aides come to fruition shortly before or after the 2015 elections.
The President’s calculations and strategies rest on a fear that his ambition to be returned to office at the next polls seems certain to go up in flames. A source deep inside Aso Rock (Nigeria’s Powerful Presidential Palace) has revealed that the President’s men are desperately resorting to the ethnic card by uniting the Igbo people of South-East behind him to strengthen his limited support base among his Ijaw kinsmen in the Oil producing Niger Delta Region. He also hopes to gather some considerable support from the minorities of Northern Nigeria who dread a return to political power by the Fulani one of whose members is pressing ahead to be fielded by the rainbow coalition opposition for the Presidential election.
The sources in Aso-Rock and the headquarters of the Nigeria military establishment are not in doubt that the surest source of hope and confidence for the President and his men is the fact that Nigeria’s most senior officer-General Ihejirika is a willing tool in his dark plot to retain power at all cost. To ensure success the army chief’s strategic office is reportedly being used (albeit) subtly and discreetly to position loyalists of the President in suitable operational commands.
The million-dollar question now is when they will strike as the general crisis of power and legitimacy confronting the ruling party and its No1 office holder is getting more insoluble by the day. The putsch, if its masterminds succeed, is targeted at removing from circulation (whatever that may mean in biological terms) what they call professional agitators and rebellious politicians of the Yoruba South-West Nigeria. These targets have been identified as the major source of headache to President Jonathan and his “do or die” bid to return to power come 2015.
Another set of likely targets and victims are prominent politicians of the North West and North East Zones of the country who have been most vociferous in their demand for a return to power after a long period of life in the wintry weather of exclusion from the country’s No 1 political office.
This calculation, sources say, is based on Jonathan’s perception of a possible disruption of his South South base and the putsch is one way of checkmating that possibility. When asked what this has got to do with the South West, our sources insisted that he expected the SW, especially the ACN, to kow-tow to him; failure of which he decided to “punish” the zone by withdrawing or denying the zone of any entitlement that is officially due to it. Examples of these are rampant, principal of which are the removal of Yoruba bureaucrats who are replaced by the Igbo and lately, there was an international fund earmarked for Nigeria which was shared by the South South, South East and Middle Belt–to the exclusion of the South West. While the ACN South West refused and continues to refuse to kow-tow to Jonathan, another force in the zone, the Yoruba Unity Forum, is squarely mired in all of Jonathan’s strategic moves. One question is whether the Unity Forum will have to courage to resist Jonathan.
Observers of the Nigeria Political scene will clearly recall the problem that the inter-ethnic contradiction of Nigeria has always been posing to Social Justice, Democracy and Good Governance in the country. This contradiction which many in the country always refer to as the UNRESOLVED NATIONAL QUESTION has always been given a short-shrift by hegemonic power blocs in control of the central government. President Jonathan is not any different from the rest. Rather than confront this long standing contradiction by facilitating a genuine Constitutional Conference of all Nationalities and stakeholders in order to usher in a proper federal union, he appears to be obsessed with his personal desire to retain his Presidential office even in the face of an increasing likelihood of defeat at the next polls.
Will history repeat itself?
Leye Ige
I feel so sorry for you.That is all I can say.
Foreign AffairsRe: Another Look At Idi Amin - Why Was He Unfairly Demonised? by EMANY01(m): 3:24pm On Sep 03, 2014
birdman: LOL. You just confirmed Idi Amin is a fool and you dont even know it. Did those same businessmen not humiliate Idi Amin in the end? Why do you focus too much of what is immediately before you and ignore long term consequences?

So you made a few white men kneel down before you. OK. How does that help you when they stand up and then take over your country. What is the use of physically humiliating people, and then handing over all you have due to your lack of wisdom. Did the first Europeans not pay homage to our forefathers? Where did that get us? Guys, you are falling my hand big time. Please put your thinking caps back on. Thanks in advance undecided
Chop knuckle abeg.
The westerners have a phrase "stoop to conquer " .Simply because someone is compelled to kneel before you does not mean you are smarter than them or that you have won.
The Obasanjo Atiku kneeling incident in 2007 is a great example.Yes Obasanjo knelt before Atiku begging him but where did they both end up.That very event probably precipitated Atikus fall from power.

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