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Wallie:You are correct although when all things are considered the difference between the systems & tools that would be employed in information warfare / electronic warfare(as you well know they are quite different although they generally will be applied together) against countries like Nigeria,SA,Argentina and N.K would be several iterations different in magnitude from the tools to be employed against say ; India,china and Russia. I don't think Iran really rates here. The challenge and fine line to walk here for a western power (read France,Uk Israel and the US), would be to :calibrate the systems/tools to prevent a scenario where a peer state will gain access to observe the damage done using those tools and extrapolate to get a marginally fair assessment of what suite of offensive systems/tools are in reserve and intended for them. Its the way the world works in the case of strategic weapons and intelligence:you have this awesome new weapon just developed and tested(hopefully without details of the weapon leaking to the oppositions intelligence services). The quandary is now a scenario where a minor or just above minor conflict/threat/situation more likely not involving the "main enemy" (at first) develops. That new weapon may just be the magic bullet that could help a commander in chief to resolve /neutralize the situation or threats in a cost effective( fewer [conventional ],platforms and lives of soldiers/seamen/airmen or Marines) manner with minimum risk of escalation .The problem is, that weapon was designed to contain and hold at risk the military strategic capacities of the main enem(ies). The question for the CIC !/do you" use that new secret weapon, rapidly and easily resolve that emerging situation/crisis containing a possible escalation that can occur when some crisis are not immediately resolved or !/do you "Use the current tools you have ,capabilities of which are well known although marginally superior which may give you unpredictable results"? The decision matrix is complicated by the fact that things could go spectacularly wrong in either case with serious political consequences for the CIC either way. Examples of this scenarios include the loss of the F-111 , in Serbia which was essentially a "brush fire war" in American parlance.It gave the world (read Chinese and Russians) the first close up look at Americas' super secret stealth plane .Even though it was the carcass of the plane they were examining it gave the opposition a fundamental idea of what the new secret weapon was about and even if they could not build it, they began from there to build information/knowledge required to invalidate the threat posed by the new weapon. Same scenario goes for the stealth helicopter lost in Abottabad in the operation to kill Bin Laden.The Chinese were there almost as soon as the American touched home base to take a good look at the downed chopper and if I recall correctly were trying to buy the fuselage from the Pakistani military/government. In the case strategic intelligence the decision matrix is the same, consider this some historians claim that in 1941 before the Pearl harbor attack, the OSS had a spy embedded within the Japanese top political hierarchy who actually warned about a possible planned attack by Japan but the decision makers in the top levels of the OSS held on to that information not to sabotage the US but because if the information spread within the us war structure,it would lead to the Japanese overhauling their counter-intelligence essentially cutting of their only reliable sources of intelligence in the Japanese government.They had calculated rather wrongly that if they released their information within a specific time period before the Japanese actually attacked the Pacific fleet would be ready for the Japanese without tipping of their hand.Problem is the timed things rather too close and badly.They got the warning our but the warning came just as the attack fleet crossed into Hawaiian airspace. So the question framed in a simple way is "so you use your secret weapon/intelligence for a medium/moderate level crisis and tip you hand or do you continue to conceal what you have until maximum benefit can be gained from using it? Follow up question,how and when do you determine maximum benefit? Shout out to Frankie....LOLLLLLSSS. |
Unionised:When we talk policies that could remake Nigeria in the politics section, do we(you) do it to get noticed?......well I don't.Can't speak for you anyway. Merry Christmas and a happy new year in Advance. |
otswag:There are two main weapon systems suits that (mostly western forces) try to never use unless its fir real war and against a peer state [read China,Russia]: Cyber war tools (stuxnet,major bandwidth hacks,communication nodes and operating systems). Electronic warfare tools (radar systems,sensor disruption,anti disruptive systems[resilient system ]anti-jamming technologies like frequency hopping and DSSS (Direct Sequence Spread Spectrum). Not a matter of movies, even when this systems are built they try to test them as far away from human/urban areas as much as possible.Places like china lake and far up the Arctic or Antarctica places it will be hard to have spy's come looking . The U.S. Air Force, has taken the lead in developing electronic tools for attacking and defending satellite communications, he satellites themselves, and has been training people to use these techniques. This effort involves figuring out new, or improved, ways to jam satellites. Then you keep that stuff secret, in case potential enemies have not figured this out themselves. Next, you work on ways to defeat the weapons developed. Most of this is playing around with the signals themselves. You can un-jam a jamming signal with another signal. However, a lot of trial and error is required and you want to get that done way in advance of any actual war. When you do have to use this stuff for real, you have to expect that the enemy may well have come up with some angle you missed. Thus, there will be some rapid improvisation, and you will have more time and resources for this if you have worked out ahead of time the details of disasters you have already anticipated. No one is releasing much information about this, for obvious reasons. There won't be much discussion from any government, unless there is a terrorist attack using these techniques. http://strategypage.com/htmw/htiw/articles/20130703.aspx http://strategypage.com/htmw/htiw/articles/20110803.aspx http://strategypage.com/htmw/htecm/articles/20140509.aspx |
Aww men I was hoping the US would not rise to the bait.The hack routes all went through china.The Chinese may not have been able to stop it but the were sure able to get a good look at US cyber command assault sub-routines and will be studying the information gleaned very intensely. Cyber commands first act was supposed to be major like war with China.Now the "main enemy" has gotten a good look at their force structure,without engaging with them. |
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phantom:If I am not mistaken,the Ibo's voted for shagari in the late seventies,less than a decade after the civil war I don't think they were stuck in 1966 @ the time.They also voted MKO in the June 12 elections as well as Obassonjo a prominent figure on the opposite side of the civil war in 1999 not to mention Yar'adua brother of Yar'adua the senior who played a prominent role against biafra during the civil war.The do all that and then to balance things they vote an ijaw man or ogbia man or whichever section of the south-south the op would have us believe that he comes from and the OP is quick to remind the Ibos' that they sabotaged them during the civil war (how is that for being stuck un 1966?). The Ibo man's basic interests on the streets wherever he is in this country is to be allowed to take advantage of the opportunities if any that being a Nigerian provides him without molestation be it Kano,Port-Harcourt, Jalingo,Sokoto,Jos ,Nembe,Lagos,Okiti-Pupa wherever.But we all know that there is only one region that has consistently denied the Ibos and other southerners even a pretension of those rights.So why would the Ibos reward them with their votes? The Ibo elites major interest in Nigeria is to be allowed to have a say in the leadership(read government) of their country in as much as the policies formulated by that government affects them and truth be told, for the first time in a long time in the history of this country beyond the lip service of previous governments,military and civilian, this happens to be the case.Posters before me have given numerous examples here on this thread so I need not bother to repeat their assertions. As for the OP for every example you give ,I have two that indicate just the opposite: I, Russia lost about eight to fifteen million people (8,000,000 - 15,000,000) depending on whose tally you read to the Germans in world war two. Not forgetting the losses they (russia ) suffered to Napoleons invasion and the Crimean war .That history and the desire to never experience such again led it to seek to dominate its hemisphere and beyond (read Europe) leading to the biggest arms race in history. The Russians never fail to remind Europe of that fact and that history plays into their decision cycle in all of their interactions with Europe in spite of the cooperative relationship that they have with Europe. II, China lost far more than the numbers quoted by the Russians at the hands of the Japanese during and following the Japanese invasion of China during the second world war. That history more than anything else , is responsible for the difficult relationship between Japan and China with the current tensions between both countries raising fears of the possibility of war breaking out in the south china sea. The two countries have strong economic cooperation but that history between them affects the Chinese decision making cycle Iii,The Israelis ,whom the OP used in his example, spent the first three decades of their corporate existence as a nation pursuing one major goal even though it had nothing to do with the survival of and progress : HAUNTING TO THE ENDS OF THE EARTH EVERY LAST INDIVIDUAL WHO PLAYED A PART IN THE GENOCIDE PROGRAM OF GERMANY IN WORLD WAR TWO AND BRINGING THEM BACK TO ISRAEL BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY FOR TRIAL AND PUNISHMENT; a task they carried out with amazing single mindedness .Even today if one more holocaust perpetrator not yet dead were to be located anywhere on earth the Israelis will go after that person aggressively so if you say that Israel and Germany have extremely good relations, it is because the Israelis’ have received justice so to speak for the horrible past between them and the Germans have gone above and beyond to appease the Israelis and to atone for the actions of the past. I could go on listing examples but I believe that my point is made :The North specifically the core north have not deemed it fit to in anyway apologize for the events of 1966-1970 but rather has done everything possible to perpetuate the pain of that period and to rub salt on the wounds both physically( sectarian riots) and mentally( political exclusion) on the southeasterners and generally southerners sans the southwest for much of Nigeria’s Post Civil war history as a result, You can not and should not begrudge the southeasterners the siege mentality they currently exhibit in their political dealings with the North. Adminisher:I feel a deep urge to insult you , I feel like calling you a ********* but I will let the better man in me prevail. I am from delta state but I consider myself practically ibo having spent a part of my life relating with them although not within the south east .You saying that Ibos are acting in response to “imagined hurts” is the most dishonest statement I dare say you have ever uttered in nairaland and I don’t care to go through you post history. I was not around during the period of the civil war or the immediate years that followed so everything I know about the civil war is what I learnt from documented history and opinions as well as what I was told by my Elders (parents uncles renown historians and the like) so I won’t dwell on the issues of the civil war. I was born and raised in kano and for the first eighteen to twenty years of my life its been a continuously evolving series of near death experiences for me my family and millions upon millions of others in the North (read core north). Beginning from the Mai-Tasine crisis in kano, (which I barely survived as a toddler on my mother’s back at mai ‘yanka market ) which killed some eight hundred people , the Reinhardt Bonke riots in kano which killed about one thousand five hundred people( this happened to coincide with my first common entrance examination, went to the school to write the test and returned some four hours later seeing decapitated , disemboweled ,impaled and burnt dead bodies on the way home how I made it home is another story), the pork riots in Bauchi, riots in maidugry , kaduna , katsina, [size=20pt]not forgetting the average three or so riots a year which happened all over the north during “STRONGMAN” OBJ’s tenure 1999-2007, [/i]the first of which occurred in OCTOBER 1999.[/size]. The most recent “incident” before the mutation of the players in these acts to what we now know as “BOKO HARAM” You have to note that from the beginning of Nigeria there has been a devious predilection by the government, mostly controlled by the core north, to seriously understate casualty figures of those killed and those affected in these sectarian crises. The rule of the thumb is to add a zero( or two in the event of a very serious and widespread crisis case in point ;the pogroms of 1966 and the Reinhardt Bonke riots in 1991) to the stated numbers of the dead and injured to come to a more correct reckoning of the numbers of casualties. [size=20pt][i] The common thread through all of these sectarian crises ,was /is, GENERAL TARGETS : anyone non-muslim and non core-north, MAJOR TARGETS: anyone identified as ibo or who is unfortunate enough to look ibo.[/size] . You may want to deny, the fact of my assertions but your denials ,no matter how much logic and eloquence you pour into it : does not resurrect the dead, does not remove the memory of those lost ,does not comfort the families of those whose loved once simply disappeared after the riots never to be heard from or heard of again, it does not regrow the limbs of those who barely escaped with their lives but lost limb In the process neither does it remove the physical (not to speak of the mental) scars of those who sustained injuries but managed to live. Your denials does not renovate the houses/homes of those who were made homeless because their homes were burnt down/destroyed and it certainly does not refund or insure those who lost their life’s work/ businesses to marauders and had to start all over again, your denials will not help those who survived all of these, but lost their lives to heart attack and anxiety as a result of any number of the situations listed above and it will not remove from the memories of southeasterners and southerners’ in general who may never have spent a day in the north but were witnesses to the tales of woe told by the survivors who scrambled down home , most with only the cloths on their back and partakers in the burials of the bodies that were found and returned home as well as burials for those who were known to be dead but their bodies were never retrieved. Chew on that before you spew more feasis on this thread. berem:I hope you know that for all your pseudo intellectual stand in the opposite side of you people(that is if indeed you are Ibo) you dare not go to the core north and assume you are immune to the treatment that awaits you at the hands if marauders whenever any of their many and repetitive sectarian violence occurs.Mnbe ogar por ginwa ge so zoba isigi. |
p3ndy79:I hear,although I am curious:because if I recall correctly,Gorge Bush was said to have performed spectacularly poorly before his second term election.Remind me again how many people ran against him in the primaries. |
[size=20pt][q]"If you want to be moral or want to be a good man, go to church." [/q][[/size]. You say this right after your party just went into the Church to pick a Pastor as its Vice-Presidential candidate. Ameachi no get sense. |
saintikechi:The truth,only the truth and nothing but the truth. |
Sagamite:Your persistent need to have the last word is telling.I have no such obsession and this will be my last communication with you on this thread. Have fun and knock yourself out. Adiós. |
ToyozzieTohBad:If you read this article with[size=18pt] JUST A LITTLE BIT OF INTELLIGENCE[/size],YOU WOULD SEE THAT THE CORRUPTION IN THE OIL SECTOR WAS PREVALENT LONG BEFORE 1999 AND WORSENED BY OBASANJO'S GOVERNMENT. But your rabid hate for the Otuke man will never let you be rational. Carry on, don't let the facts get in the way of your hate. |
Sagamite:No insult taken.To be honest I get the picture now. Imagine if you will a smart clinical psychologist on the verge of insanity.Its the hardest scenario to deal with, as this fellow knows all about the decent to the pit of insanity,can recognize the classic signs and the non documented indicators but for the life of him can not or will not bring himself to accept or even consider the possibility that he is loosing it. I feel you. |
[quote author=Sagamite post=27983406]Then you need your brain examined to understand why the cells are dead.[/quotee] I was saying that I agree with you.U don't have to be insulting. |
OAM:The line in bold is the most false statement I've heard all month but will debate later.I live in Lagos I pay my taxes so I I have the right to say what I observe but that's a matter for another day. As for the crisis in the north,I was born in Maimunna Hospital in Kano City decades ago,I have seen and managed to survive THREE DECADES OF SECTARIAN KILLINGS AND DESTRUCTION.THE PROBLEM JUST TOOK A CATCHY NAME THATS ALL. THE CRISIS IN THE NORTH DIDN'T START IN 2010,OR 2009,ITS SEED WAS SOWN BEFORE INDEPENDENCE AND HAD A VIRULENT GROWTH IN THE EIGHTIES,NINETIES AND BRYOND. MY PREVIOUS POSTS TELL YOU ALL YOU MIGHT WANT TO KNOW ABOUT THE NORTH DURING THOSE PERIODS. |
Sagamite:I may never have agreed with anything you have had to say on Nairaland buy this.......this description/definition up there is everything. |
Princewill1:They will learn that the Nigeria of yesterday which they"owned and controlled" is different from the Nigeria of today. They will find out the hard way that unlike IBB's claim it will be a case of "we are in power BUT NOT WIT POWER". They forget that "Making NIGERIA UNGOVERNABLE" is a playbook everyone has read now. |
honeric01:I registered in/at Egbeda,was hoping to go there tomorrow (Saturday) to pick up my card.I don't live around there anymore and I've been wondering how get to vote next year seeing as I will be living at on run by then. Do I go back to egbeda during the elections or what because really have to vote. This report of yours saying nothing happened scares me.It means it either may not happen as inec claims 7th-8th Nov or it will happen tomorrow with the attendant chaos of everyone trying to collect theirs at the same time. |
koboko69:Seriously you really really want to do that?Make absurd claims about the performance of the Lagos state government using just one sample item when the sum of the whole tells a far different story. Remove that picture of the so called camera system taking care of traffic (you know and I know that it is a big lie) or within the next few days when I'm back in Lagos I will post as many picture showing damaged, decayed units of same item all over Lagos. Off the top of my head on the same ikorodu road alone, I can count 11 example |
koboko69:Seriously you really really want to do that?Make absurd claims about the performance of the Lagos state government using just one sample item when the sum of the whole tells a far different story. Remove that picture of the so called camera system taking care of traffic (you know and I know that it is a big lie) or within the next few days when I'm back in Lagos I will post as many picture showing damaged, decayed units of same item all over Lagos. |
“It is thus very clear that. I hope the same applies to Lastma. What is good for the sauce is good as well for the gander.If anything, the FRSC folks are by a long shot more professional than the party touts the Lagos State government has empowered in uniform to make life miserable for drivers in Lagos. |
tinkinjow: Nobleval: ProfCorruption:I have always believed that this whole "African Civilization" thing is bullsh.it . Everyone Africans, Latin Americans,Indians the Chinese,the Japanese and the Koreans can point to trace or definite proof of a civilization dating back 5000 - 8000 years. In real world absolute terms non of that has any impact on the current standing development wise on any of the aforementioned groups. Before the Chinese,Korean,Japanese and Indians made any sort of progress, they all had to follow a maxim of SCIENTIFIC knowledge RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT please note I did not say western civilization. It's understandable that people confuse Western civilization for scientific research and development because the West after the dark ages resolved to pursue civilization based on that maxim but Scientific Civilization is not an absolutely Western concept. The sooner Africa's (and Nigeria's) pseudo intellectuals drop the bullshit of African Civilization and focus on the laws of physics,chemistry,mathematics and biology societal mechanics / administration ,organizational dynamics as we know them ,the sooner we will reach the Civilization levels we ought to have attained decades ago. Europe took two hundred years to achieve it level of self sustaining civilization, the US took about a hundred and fifty years,Japan took roughly sixty years,Korea some fourty five years, China roughly fourty years. I may be off on the timeline for a few of those groups mentioned by ten / twenty years give or take but what the pattern shows is that when a group of people decide that they want to pursue Civilization,it takes shorter than the last group if they are serious and determined about it. This is mainly because there are fewer wheels to invent and because they have taken the time to investigate the history of their successes and more importantly their failures. That is why it takes the Americans/Europeans (Russians included)and even the Japanese a decade or two to work out the basic science of a new technology before proliferation and widespread application of that tech which could take another decade while the Chinese simply learned how the tech evolved and leap frog shaving a third ,most times, half the time effort and finance. Is anyone honestly going to argue that the Chinese,Koreans or the Japanese have lost their culture or that the have no culture? |
oduastates:For someone who talks about a lie being repeated,you and your fellow Tinubu shippers have repeatedly played the lie about the Enron station which if truth were told never produced even ONE KILOWATT OF POWER. As far as scams go in Nigeria, that was classic but you lot have lied about it so much that you now believe (your Lie). |
The most important question: [size=20pt] .....assuming the motive for those who try to undermine the Nigerian military is political, what what will they fight bokoharamm with if by any accident they win the presidency? Is with the same Nigerian military or some imported solders?[/size] |
No one who wants to commit suicide shoots himself in the stomach especially not a cop who would know that the most efficient and pain free method of jumping off would be eating a bullet or sending into his temple.I'm not even sure about the last part people have been known to survive that method. I concur with the guy that said he was killed. This story of the Amourer killing himself is so stupid and enraging. |
Eziachi:Good sir I think you missed a major thrust of her post....if I'm not mistaken,(biafran queen please tell me if I am), she is saying that the buhari everyone seems to be loosing their heads for is not the buhari of the eighties .The man is seriously in a diminished capacity mentally not mention physically As an example there was a post about how GEJ had aged visibly over the last four years sometime last year with pictures highlighting the change.Nigeria is a difficult country hence biafran queen saying that it would be a death sentence for Buhari. She is also raising alarm at the backers of the man.Unless we want to lie to ourselves,his top supporters are just as corrupt if not far more corrupt than the PDP folks the mast.urbate about daily on the pages of the newspapers.I know she knows and I believe you should know too that these folks just want to use Buhari to capture power and when they do they will pin the old man down(unless you believe the very mistaken hype that the president is the most powerful person in the country all by him/herself(someday hopefully)). They will run/ruin the country while the doodling old man sits pretty as president .That is,unless you believe that the governance of Lagos for instance is the best thing that could ever happen to Nigeria because for every tale of corruption in the Federal government, you can point to three in Lagos and other opposition controlled states. I have to add here that I have a personal bias against Buhari which I have explained many times in previous posts namely that people have killed other people in this country of ours because of an opinion that he (Buhari) held(I lost a cousin in the kaduna sharia riots in 2000) Around a thousand people died in 2011 killed by people who claim that they were doing it in Buhari's name (two people known to me died). As if that was not enough he is still comfortable issuing threats if it so much looks like he will get cheated ...Nnam put yourself in my shoes will you even contemplate this man in the sit of power?[size=20pt] I am not a corrupt person nor am I confortable with a corrupt system /people and I want change as much as the next man if not more ,BUT IF BUHARI IS OUR LAST HOPE FOR THE SURVIVAL , GREATNESS AND PROGRESS OF NIGERIA ,THEN I WOULD RATHER THERE BE NO NIGERIA. [/size] |
[size=20pt] If Buhari, now 71, gets the ticket but loses the election again,HIS SUPPORTERS MAY HAVE LESS REASON TO END THE MAYHEM so quickly if they sense he has missed his last chance. [/size]. I hope I'm not the only one seeing this. APC supporters may contend that the article does damage to GEJ casting him in bad light,but that paragraph simply admits that Buhari has blood on his hands and could be well on his way to racking up a higher body count when he loses the election.I don't know how that is a better rep:[size=19pt]THAT YOUR SUPPORTERS HAVE KILLED PEOPLE (THEIR FELLOW CITIZENS IN PEACETIME NIGERIA) IN YOUR NAME AND MAY YET KILL MORE. I AND ANY RIGHT THINKING NIGERIAN WOULD RATHER VOTE FOR THE MAN WHO WILL GO HOME QUIETLY THAN FOR THAT MAN WHOSE SUPPORTERS WILL UNLEASHE DEATH ON US ALL FOR REJECTING THEIR HERO.[/size] |
SamIkenna:Ya think ?? |
Abagworo:I am shocked you disagree with his assertions.As an observer on nairaland ,this is the first time you have said anything that seems to support the general aspirations of the ibos. I have always figured you were not really Ibo.I had expected you to stylishly side with Junaid. |
Stillfire:Exactly there was a time that wearing a bra was a taboo among the southern easterners then only strong headed "lost" free spirit women did it.T he claim was that they were damaging the breasts and would not be able to breastfeed their infants later. Its really funny how times change. |
cococandy:I was about to make this same point.If we are honest with our history from badagry to bakassi, the maidens of the time (as recent as seventy/eighty years ago) the newly married women were less covered up than the average fun seeking young lady in to day's time. This whole morality of women dressing gas gone to absurd proportions. I guess what they say is true "if you tell a lie again and again it becomes the truth so much that you the originator of the lie genuinely believes it" . |
barcanista:Completely agree with every word you wrote. [size=2pt] Glad to see we still have something we agree on[/size] |
OkijaAmaka:The Jujuman Supreme Leader of Osunistan Sheik Ayotollah Ogbeni Bin Rauf Aregbe ibn sholam.......sounds more accurate phonetically. |
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is it not obvious..i knew it from the start when he was asking us to help him with our shoes
, only the man should rotflmao. Some African cultures teach their girls how to have se.xxxx. Today our mothers can't even broach the subject of se.xxxx to us.
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