₦airaland Forum

So Lagos to kano is officially 29 hours on nigerian train !

Signed.

It is important we know those senators who abstained from voting, they are in my own opinion worse than the 35 senators, they are big time cowards.

Mogidi: Who says they don't eat shi.t now?
I personally witnessed shi.t being shared by a mother to her kids few years ago. I felt disgusted and headed home but few weeks later I bumped into the friend I escorted to the shi.t house. He explained the Yorubas call it "amala" and it was edible. I thought so is "horse meat" but we don't eat "horse meat" just because it is edible.
You see if it taste like shi.t, smells like shi.t and look like shi.t for God sake it must be shi.t.
Below is a comparison of the two, judge for yourself. Enjoy!!!

It could also be chocolate made from cocoa

Stop the hate

A sleeping senator representing sleeping electorates

The senator is suggesting a wrong solution to a bad problem

Sincere 9gerian: Stop comparing apples with oranges. We'r talking about dictatorial IMPOSITION here. Is Tinubu's wife in anyway better than the seasoned politician/technocrat she displaced? Could any of Tinubu's relatives who are currently holding prime political positions had won if the contest was fair? That is the DIFFERENCE. While the examples you gave got to their positions on individual merit, albeit with the help of family pedigre, Tinubu's relatives are IMPOSED on the people.

If at all there was imposition, it was on ACN partymembers, to the best of my knowledge, the "imposed" fellows took part in general elections, and the electorates voted for them. I will keep saying it party primaries in this country is overrated, it does not necessarily bring up the best candidate, and the way it is conducted by most parties is shambolic, Shehu musa Yaradua was imposed on the PDP party members in 2006, as several fore runners were arm twisted to step down, GEJ in 2011 emerged because he won the battle of the "ghana must go", delegates were holed up in their hotels in abuja and paid handsomely in US dollars, and several other back hand deals.

You talk about individual merit when i talk about Bush and clinton family and several other families because it suits your jaundiced view. I am asking you to explain the individual merit that made George bush(snr) sons become Governors and George bush (jnr) became president 8 years after , or the individual merit in how Hilary clinton a first lady became a senator,later secretary of state .

Sincere 9gerian: @Gbawe.,tried to play smart on this thread by reducing all of Odumakins statements to simplistic comparison of the cost of constructing per km of road. We all know that several factors determine the cost of road construction and these factors vary from one geographical location to another. Even in the same state, the cost may vary from place to place. Factors such as soil structure, number of lanes, design of the road, number of bridges, drainages type and size, pedestran walk ways,etc all eventually add up to the final cost of the road. Most of these factors, vary from place to place, even in the same state.

The East-west road for instance is about over 338km dual carriage road, with about 37 bridges and is being constructed at the cost of about N360 billion (variation that has taken due to delayed completion since 2006 when the project was initiated at the cost N200billion).
http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/east-west-road-to-cost-n360bn/116824/

It will be deceitful and pure mischief to now compare the East-west road (with 37 bridges and topography in the swamps of the Niger Delta) per km cost of construction with inner city roads in places like Enugu or Abeokuta.

However @Gbawe and co try to spin this one, it cannot fly. The message of Odumakin, which cannot be lost, is that massive corruption is taking place in ACN controlled states.

Even more damaging is the fact that Tinubu's contracting firm is the one getting most of the road contracts in the Southwest. Has anyone imagined GEJ setting up his own contracting firm and ensuring the company gets major jobs in the country? Clearly, in such setting TRANSPARENCY and ACCOUNTABILITY will be thrown out from the window.

What about Tinubu's IMMORAL imposition of his close relatives in prime political positions in the southwest?

Tinubu is a hard-sell any day, anytime. No amount of spins by Gbawe and co can remove the THIEF appendage to Thief-Tinubu

Note: this does not exonerate PDP controlled states of corruption. But the DIFFERENCE is that in ACN controlled states, the corruption level is times two, ie the resources of the states most cater for the corrupt tendencies of state chief executives (governors) AND the
godfather (Tinubu). But in PDP controlled states, we have to contend with only the corrupt tendencies of state chief executives (governors)

I think you are the one doing the spin, you are saying the same thing he said about what influences cost variation.

Which Tinubu's contracting firm is getting the road contracts ? >>> any fact to back this up ?

While i am not too much of a fan of some Tinubu's family members placed in elective posts, things like this tends to happen all over the world. The bush family and clinton family in the USA is a very good example of this.

In fact Father and son became president of the country in a space of 12 years, there was a time 2 of George bush(snr) sons were governors of two different states at the same season.

Emotions cloud logical reasoning

Goddex, dont think, search for facts and figures, it is always on public space.

http://www.nigerianbestforum.com/blog/east-west-road-of-promises-without-end/

THE Federal Government in 2006 awarded contracts for the construction of the 337-kilometre East-West Road. The job, worth N211 billion, according to the original agreement, is supposed to be completed by August 2010.

Emotions can be deceptive , facts and figures will correct that self anomaly.

Goddex: I think, East - West Road will be like five times the distance of Lagos - Ibadan but with a very bad terrain and involving several bridges. The road starts in Delta cutting across Bayelsa, Rivers, Abia, Akwa Ibom and terminates in Cross River.

On the topic, we have several Shameless hypocrites on nairaland - the likes of Gbawe. His paymasters are sacking us dry in the South West while bombarding us with loads of propaganda

DONT THINK.

You need figures whatever to prove what you think.

On the topic, we have several Shameless hypocrites on nairaland - the likes of Gbawe. His paymasters are sacking us dry in the South West while bombarding us with loads of propaganda

You need to prove this

Bushdiri: My fellow Nairalanders,if you will believe me,without putting into consideration your religion,region or political affiliate, then you should know from these day that ACN is far corrupt than PDP, I pray that Nigerians should start seeing things the way they are.

Prove it !

[quote author=nOble^gEnt]I wonder how we reason with sentiments in Nigeria.If I had my way,I will have denounced my citizenship in Nigeria.Is elective post about parties or the individuals?[/quote]If a party fields an unelectable candidate, the electorates will decide

Political parties Primaries in Nigeria is overrated.

To the best of my knowledge, party's primaries in state involves 1,000 or slightly more party members who are usually gagged with ghana must go , and the candidate who offers the biggest Ghana must go emerges.

If there was a free flow primary in Acn for the gubernatoial candidate, Fashola will not emerge.

One thing i have observed about ACN candidates is the good quality of their candidates, and they are allowed to work

EasternLeopard: @GBAWE So to construct East-West road which will be about 1500km will cost the govt 1.5 trillion naira at the rate of 1billion per kilometer. Abeg which community secondary school or glorified secondary school posing as a university u attended.

East-west road is 1500km ?

Use facts to make sense now, are you saying east west road is like 10 times longer than the Lagos-Ibadan express way (130km)?

Gbawe: What "obvious" is he repeating? More like he is talking ignorantly while everyone praising his "truth-telling" only display their ignorance also and a sentimental outlook totally lacking in objectivity. This is how Odumakin and some Nigerian leader 'ALUU-nize' the mentality of Nigerians to work them up into a frenzy against other leaders they dislike and you guys are all easy to wind up because you will not seek facts. you are only seeking heroes and enemies and the utterance to confirm which is which. Odumakin wrote:



How much do you guys think Julius Berger has been charging Akpabio for some of the construction work they have done for him? Why did Odumakin not accuse Akpabio and Julius Berger of being crooks since the rate of Julius Berger Akpabio is happy to commission is nowhere near as low as the fictitious and ridiculously unrealistic figure Odumakin gave as an upper cut off for per/KM road construction cost?

Below is a road contract of N28 billion for a 12KM road. What do those sort of figures do to Odumakin's N50 million per KM claim? I am not asking you guys not to hate who you want. Do it intelligently and let us stop embarrassing Nigeria online. I go to the political blog of other Nations and they try to establish issues with facts. Here, most are just happy to be sentimental and comfortable speaking on lies that obviously make no logical sense.

Any dispassionate non-Nigerian, from all evidence, can immediately see Odumakin is on his own personal mudslinging agenda. Point is that you may not like the dog. fine. Yet when you tell an audience that a dog took a subway ride to reach an apartment block , took the lift to the 20th floor and then opened apartment 2200 with a key and made of with £2 million, then perhaps sensible people should look at the motivation behind your own incredible and unbelievable storytelling against the dog.

http://www.pointblanknews.com/News/os5253.html

Ah, Oga Gbawe, you are using facts and figure to deal with this mobs.

that Akwa ibom road costs almost N2.5billion per kilometre

Even the Lagos-Ibadan Express way will cost roughly N1.4billion per kilometre.

Odumakin is surely "loose-guarding", i guess he has a personal score to settle with tinubu and the ACN

Sincere 9gerian: I know there's a thin line between violence and throwing stones but throwing of stones is one COMMON feature of protesters all over the world. Why do protesters throw stones? They throw stones to reach targets the security people prevented them from reaching physically.

Yes, all Nigerians deserve protection but the level of protection you get is determined by the level of risk. Presidents all over the world get maximum security because they face the highest risk. The governors are local champions who do not even require much physical security if things were working properly.

Are you saying that throwing stone is not violenct?, i feel like using my catapult to fire stones on your head.

Goliath sef never live to tell the story after david stones.

Didn't you see that damage on the SUV, if that stone impact was on your head, that head will split open like palm kernel frod, and you will not live to tell the story

which kind son? how many years you take senior am ?

hmmmn, the analysis put to bear many of my thought process about Amaechi and rivers state debacle.

It is a great analysis, my real fear was penned in the last paragraph, the anti amaechi folks who now control the states pdp apparatus do not really care about the development of the state or betterstill can not offer anything near the slightly above average developmental strides of Amaechi, should full power return to their hands.

How can that kind of crass personality find his way in to a chamber for honourables ?, this is a new low, a gutter personality that should be at best a motor park tout.

The president 2015 ambition is causing so much trouble and division , i wonder what will happen if he loses at the polls. I foresee a Quattara vs Laurent Gbagbo situation in Nigeria.

A situation where 16 > 19 and 5 > 27, there is no way GEJ will accept a loss at the 2015 elections in the event he loses. I fear for the unity of this country after 2015 elections, the signs are bad.

Too bad, i hope the fire was put off quite early .

breezy047: Walking around like a headless chicken like Victor Moses too did in the same match?

Cut the crap. . .The boys were fresh from nations cup euphoria so ALL of them WALKED around like a headless chicken. . .and you could tell that Martins in particular looked new to the team and just needed 1 or 2 more games to get in synch and blast in his goals.

Leave story, martins is getting tired, prior to the nations cup, he also flopped at the SE games he was invited for, and that was the main reason keshi did not take him to the nations cup, he tried giving him another chance after the nations cup, his performance was still not impressive.

People need to get to use to the fact that players form dips after a while mostly due to biological reasons (age) or lack of club appearance, e.t.c. If you keep a mental image of martins form in 2007-2010, and you expect him to show you that same form in 2013, you might be hallucinating, he claims to be 29 years anyway. Martins of 2013 might still have some flashes of 2010, but the law of diminishing returns is at work on him, his club move is also a pointer to that.

What constitutes "constructive criticism"?
Some people can easily run their mouth and claim they are criticizing constructively, i have utmost respect for Oliseh, but i feel some of his submissions are wrong.

Keshi has been doing a wonderful job on the current crop of eagles, i still dont get some folks fixation on the old horse like Osaze and martins to be recalled, who i believe are spent forces. Criticism is cheap, any one can offer it, but i think what every critic owes a duty is to think through before offering it.

Injuries to onazi, emenike and moses weakened the strength of SE's team at the confeds cup.

I think the biggest work for Keshi at the moment is to create a strong bench in the event of situations like injuries as we suffered just prior to the confed cup. A situation where each player on the field has a very good substitute on the bench (This is the biggest opportunity area for the SE team especially at the attack).

Keshi will not get to find such good substitutes not until he creates a pool and put them to use to validate if they are good enough, this i think is what Keshi is doing.

Finally, the stage is now set for the battle to begin

Opeyemi Bamidele needs to chill, i dont see why he would want to stop Fayemi at the ACN primaries, it is not sensible at the moment, All the ACN governors deserve a 2nd term ticket, Tinubu endorsing Fayemi is in line, and i am certain he will win the ACN ticket.

By the way, i think a party dropping a performing incumbent governor for a house of rep member is not strategic, it is not in the best interest of the party, and sends a wrong signal to the populace.

Mowin: according 2 those who have gone 4 training, no other role will b called 4 training. Its 4 Reg & enrolment officers only..

ok then, i will stay positive for the good news, God willing, we will smile.

Mowin: Organisational Strategy nd workplan: we r waiting 4 our APL.. anyone representing??

me dey wait o? abi training dey for us ni?

Chillypelly: Jonathan fulfilling promises dullards crying foul. I have not seen any government in the history of nigera that has mustered courage to carry out jobs like you have with GEJ's govt.

1. North west will [/b]take delivery of zungeru power plant and abuja-kaduna rail project,

2. North central loko-oweto bridge across river benue,abuja lokoja road dualization, suleja-minna road dualization, construction of 13 districts in the F.C.T, Geregu power plant and the lokoja-benin road dualization.

3. North-central [b]will enjoy the manbila power plant, kano-maiduguri dualization and wiping out of the dreaded boko haram.

4. South west will take delivery of the lagos-Ibadan expansion into 10 lanes, Lagos-Ibadan monorail and the Ibadan-Ilorin dualization.

5. South-south will enjoy the east-west road, the 6 power plants, niger-delta railway project and the coastal roads valued at 1.8 trillion naira.

6. The south-east will have the second niger bridge, reconstruction of the onitsha-enugu road into a six-lane road, the reconstruction of of enugu-portharcourt road and the 3 power plants in imo, abia and enugu.

In addition other projects like the sagamu-ore-benin road, the $1b GE investment in calabar, the skill acquisation centres in the nine oil states worth 9b naira each, the new refinery at ondo by dangote and a whole lot of them...

GEJ is working...
Team fresh air #2015#

Through out the days of Obasanjo, to Yaradua and now in the days of Jonathan, "will" is never a scarce comodity.

penny01502: I don't believe ignorance people like you still exist in our great country, imagine you displaying your sense of ignore and stupi**dity of social network.

I think your written English is ignorant !

Is that not the CCECC that some conspiracy theorist claims that Tinubu owns partly ?

nice one

The Mischievious dolts in PDP are on the usual spin and sell. I pity the bulk of Nigerians who wants to keep that party in power in 2015.
Stockholm syndrome is the best way to describe what is happening . SMH

Nigeria has been unconvincing, and has played like a team that will lose against an average side, Painfully,i dont see us beating them, Uruguay is worthy to be the 1st in their group, they lost unexpectedly their first game, and are back strongly in the tourney. Nigeria will play beautifully well, but as usual, since the African U 20 tourney, lose lots of scoring chances.

Quarter final qualification by Nigeria will be a surprise for me.

Ijogz K: I don't know bout Lagos compared to Ogun State, but from my childhood have always known that Ogun State is the 2nd most industrialized state in Nigeria. Go to Sango Otta alone, there's an industrial area dat houses well over 50 top industries.. Fidson, Drugfield, Sona breweries now taken over by Nigeria breweries, Mayer, just to mention a few.

Imagine someone saying no industry is in ota, the volume of industries in that axis alone is more than what is in some geo-political zones. Check out most made in nigeria drugs, there is a greater probability, it was made in ota,nigeria.

By the time you consider the other industries in (Agbara, Mowe, Ewekoro, Ibese, Shagamu, Magboro, Ibafo, Ifo, Akute ,...)to the ones in ota, you will understand why the Governors claim might not be far from Reality.

Lagos and Ogun state are the two most industrialised states in Nigeria