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exotik:
so because the ewu-jale, a jebu-shyte said it, does that mean the itsekiris are also jebu-shytes? how about the jebu-shytes speaking an original itsekiri language? but anyways, all dat still do not answer the question. do the itsekiris identify as yoruba coz im yet to meet one who does both on the internet and in real-life.

LOL STOP THERE ,

And where are you going with your distortions, cos i know you are an IGBO MAN.

Read below.


It is evident that the Bini religious discourse was, and to some extent is, still infiltrated with Itsekiri and Ilaje. This is most evident in the water religion of the Binis.

From the above, we see that some of the most important aspects of the Bini civilization: their bead industry, the cult of Olokun (Olu Okun – King of the sea), their salt industry etc are from the eastern Yoruba land of Itsekiri and to some extent the Ilajes. Apart from this, the Itsekiri warrior, Ikaye, saved the Bini kingdom from being crushed by the Akures. For his settlement Oba Semede gave him Ologbo.
Again when there was leadership dispute between Obaseki and Aigwobasinwin, it was an Itsekiri chief, Dore Numa, who restored the Benin monarchy. He also gave them a lot of beads which the Bini aristocracy has not returned till today. It is therefore unthinkable that Ife, where the Yoruba kingship blossomed, would have copied from Benin. This is most evident when we consider the following facts: (I) The name, Oba (the Edo word for king), is copied from the Yorubas, particularly those from Ife (2) the heads of the Obas of Benin were taken to Ife, until very recently. The place where the heads of the Obas of Benin were buried is still called “Orun Oba Ado”, “the heaven of the kings of Benin”. (3) The Binis normally take permission from the Ooni, to crown new kings. There is no recorded history that the Oonis took permission from the Binis before getting crowned (4) The official language in the court of the Oba of Benin until 1934 was Yoruba. There was no time that Bini language was spoken in Ife. The Portuguese and other Europeans who were in the Bini area for more than 500 years (from 1486 when they got to Benin till 1960.)had no knowledge of Oduduwa being a Bini man.


A SCIENTIFIC ANALYSIS OF THE MYTHS

1. Oduduwa – The myth of Oduduwa seems to be valid. Minus the fact that many Yoruba claim descent from Oduduwa, some Urhobos and even Ijaws also claim descent from Oduduwa.
2. Ekaladerhan – This name exists in very little, if at all it exists, in the oral tradition of any of the Bini neighbors. There has been no relevant oral tradition among any of the circumjacent peoples that can recognize Ekaladerhan or identify him as Oduduwa. So, the Ife claim concerning Oduduwa seems to be more tenable.


[b]MIGRATIONS

The first crop of migrants or southward push of the Egyptians took place about 2000BC – 500BC. The Hyksos invasion (2000-1500BC) caused some of these southward migrations. Many of the black Egyptians seemed to have moved to Yoruba land during this period. .

The second wave of migrations will correspond to what Laoye Sanda, of the department of Public Administration,The Polytechnic,Ibadan refers to as the black Nubian emigrants. The Nubians were black, they occupied present day Sudan, which was an integral part of the Egyptian Empire. The vocabulary, body scarification, and religious discourse resemble those of the Ijebus and more so, the Itsekiri.The 1984 Awujale’s coronation manual will make this manifest. These migrations occurred about 500BC.

A third wave of migration took place between 90BC and 30BC. The present writers feel the personality called Oduduwa, came in that migration trend.

A fourth migration will correspond to the Christian conquest of Egypt, about 100AD.

The last wave of migration will correspond to the Arab enforced emigration, between 700AD – 1100AD, when the Arabs had consolidated their control over Egypt; they chased the last batch of traditional worshipping Egyptians from Egypt. This occurrence would have led to many Yoruba claiming that their ancestors were chased from somewhere in the Middle East for not accepting Islam.

anonymous6:
I don't believe he came from Benin, you want to believe that, however I don't believe he came from the sky either; the only others that say he is from the east and supports that he is from Benin, are the benins themselves, the yoruba's have said differently & it has nothing to do with Muslims but I feel the muslims say alot because of the homeland of Mecca is connected to them. I have heard the yoruba's have migrated from a southern tribe in Egypt. From my experience from what I have heard from benins & Yoruba's is that we are connected through a common ancestral line but the dispute always comes up between the two tribes who came from who. Some Benins believe yoruba came from them and Yoruba's believe benins came from the Yoruba's

Oduduwa migrated from Egypt, that is where the Yorubas learnt The 'Bronze Casting.

[b]Benin [/b]name never exist during that period.

exotik:
hmmm, i cant remember saying otherwise coz there is no tribe does not have mixed origin in nigeria. but do they identify as yoruba?

wow!! a lot of mixture going on in there but where in the article did they say they are yoruba? it only says they are close akin to not only yoruba but with igala

and this is what the igalas had to say:

Igala are an ethnic group of Nigeria. Igala practice a number of different religions, including animism, Christianity, and Islam.

The home of the Igala people is situated east of the river Niger and Benue confluence and astride the Niger in Lokoja, Kogi state of Nigeria. The area is approximately between latitude 6°30 and 8°40 north and longitude 6°30 and 7°40 east and covers an area of about 13,665 square kilometers (Oguagha P.A 1981) The Igala population is estimated at two million, they can also be found in Delta, Anambra and Edo States of Nigeria. The Igala language is closely related to the Yoruba and Itsekiri languages.

^^^

as u can see ryt there, the yoruba and itsekiri langauges are clearly seperated.

The Awujale even mentioned (2004) that the Itsekiri (an eastern Yoruba dialect) are speaking the original Ijebu language.

Oral tradition has it also that when the Yorubas came from South of Egypt they did not go straight to where they now occupy. They settled at Illushi, some at Asaba area – Ebu, Olukumi Ukwunzu while some settled at[b] Ode-Itsekiri( The Itsekiri's historical capital)[/b],.”

OK?

exotik:
^^
no i prefer the ijaw beni coz they are ryt in my backyard. coz like they say, "wetin u dey find go for sokoto, dey for shokoto"

yet they identify as igbo in anioma

and yorubas are arabs!!!

About four major Igbo dialects are spoken in Anioma and include Enuani, Ukwuani, Ika and Abor. Other languages spoken are: Ishan, Ozzara, Olukunmi (Old and extinct Yoruba language) [/b]and Igala.

The Awujale of Ijebu land has shown that the Ijebus are descended from ancient Nubia (a colony of Egypt). He was able to use the evidence of language, body, scarification, coronation rituals that are similar to Nubians’ etc, to show that the Ijebus are descendants of the Nubians. What the present Awujale claimed for the Ijebus, can be authenticated all over Yoruba land. [b]The Awujale even mentioned (2004) that the Itsekiri (an eastern Yoruba dialect) are speaking the original Ijebu language.

Since the Nubians were descended or colonized by the Egyptians, the Ijebu, and by extension, all Yoruba customs, derived from the Egyptian. Many traditional Yorubas have always claimed Egypt as their place of original abode, and that their monarchical tradition derives from the Egyptians’. Apostle Atigbiofor Atsuliaghan, a high priest of Umale-Okun, and a direct descendant of Orunmila, claimed that the Yorubas left Egypt as a result of a big war that engulfed the whole of Egypt. He said the Egyptian remnants settled in various places, two important places being Ode Itsekiri and Ile-Ife.Chief O.N Rewane says “Oral tradition has it also that when the Yorubas came from South of Egypt they did not go straight to where they now occupy. They settled at Illushi, some at Asaba area – Ebu, Olukumi Ukwunzu while some settled at Ode-Itsekiri,.” (O.N. Rewane Royalty Magazine A PICTORIAL SOUVENIR OF THE BURIAL AND CORONATION OF OLU OF WARRI, WARRI 1987)

The present writers tend to place the origin of the Yoruba monarchy in ancient Egypt and Nubia. This is because a lot of Egyptian related relics, words and practices can still be discerned among the Yorubas, particularly among the following: Ife (where the Ifa oracle and Yoruba monarchical system blossomed); Ijebu (with some ancient settlements; Ijebu Ode, the seat of the Awujale, Ode, the seat of Lenuwa, in present day Ogun Water side Local Government, Oke-Eri, purported to be the home of the biblical queen of Sheba, called Bilikisu in Ijebu legends), Ugbo, the ancient city of the Ilajes, Idanre (the home of Ogun, the god of iron), all show some similarities and identities in their monarchical and religious authorities.Basil Davidson, Olumide Lucas, Tariqh Sawandi, and even the present Awujale of Ijebu land, have pointed to ancient Egypt or Nubia as the origin of Yoruba monarchical system. All the above have used the similarities or the identities of cultural practices to substantiate their claims.

http://www.raceandhistory.com/cgi-bin/forum/webbbs_config.pl/noframes/read/2139

exotik:
^ no, you are the one who dont get it. and i dont care what the itsekhiri speak if it they are yoruba or not. the olukumi speak what is yoruboid but they are igbo.

Olukumi is an old dialect of yoruba

exotik:
nah, maybe you guys should be clear with your posts. emmatok said bini is from itsekhiri ubinu.  if he had said, bini is from yoruba "ile ibinu." i would not have bothered to respond coz that would be likely true since the origin of the word was from oranmiyan.

but lets say ijaw come with their variant of bini which is beni, should we then say bini is from ijaw beni? and if the ijaws start claiming that, would u agree to it?

Itsekiri are Yorubas !!!

exotik:
so it was not an itsekiri word? coz from wot u wrote, everybody had their own transcription of the word. so how did it become an itsekiri word when the origin is from oranmiyan who is yoruba?  

and some of those names you posted are a bit edoid

You still don't get it.

The Itsekiris speak a language very closely akin to[b] Yoruba and Igala[/b].

Example the word OLU is a Yoruba name.

But the Olu of Warri is the ruler of the The  .

Notice the first generation Olu of Warri are Yorubas .

Eweka I(son of Oronmiyan) was the first 'Oba   of the Benin Empire.

Most  Itsekiris are are Yorubas, just like the Egun and Ilaje poeple.

exotik:
of course, i know it is not homogenous coz no group has a homogenous culture. but why are the supposed influences always claimed to come from the yoruba side? what were the others doing? sleeping? i have even read attempts where yorubas would claim dat the beautiful bini hair style worn by the oba's wives may have been a yoruba influence because some yorubas who were under bini wear it too, but forgeting that some igbos also wear that hair style?

and btw, "ubinu" was always said to be a yoruba word meaning so-called "land of vexation" because oranmiyan could not rule bini due to the angry nature of the people. so when he was leaving, he called  it ile ubini -- the land of vexation. LMAO!! it is only recently i have been reading dat it is actually an itsekiri word and not a yoruba word. so wot does ubinu mean in itsekiri? cos i take it you are itsekhiri?

The English name comes from a Portuguese transcription (Benin) of a local corruption (Bini) of the Itsekiri form (Ubinu) of the Yoruba Ile-Ibinu ("Home of Vexation", a name bestowed on the Edo capital by the irate Ife oba Oranyan in the 12th century.

Note

The Itsekiris speak a language very closely akin to Yoruba and Igala but which has also been significantly influenced by other languages particularly Portuguese, Edo (Benin), English and a few borrowings from neighbouring Ijo and Urhobo languages.


The Olu (king) of Warri is the head of the Itsekiri people. See list below.

Start                      End Ruler
                                        Abejioye
                                        Akenjioye
1710                          Omagboye
1710 c. 1735         Akengboye
1735                  Atogbuwa (Manuel Otobia)
1807                             Erejuwa (Sebastião Otobia)
1807 14 June 1848  Akengbuwa (João) (d. 1848)
1848 1848             Ejo
1848 1851            Iye Idolorusan (Regent)
1851                    Eri (Regent)
                                            Atsego (Regent)
16 Jan 1921                     Okorofianyegbe (Regent)
13 Sep 1917 24 Sep 1932 Dogho Numa (d. 1932)
16 Jan 1921 1929     Vacant
1929 7 Feb 1936     Olagbemi Ewolufu (Regent)
7 Feb 1936              Ginuwa II (Gbesimi Emiko)
2 April 1987             Ogiame Atuwatse II

Notice any Yoruba Names?

exotik:
obi of onitsha dancing with the bini royal sword eben and the olowo of owo posing with the bini royal sword eben. that leaves me wondering why the supposed bini cultural influences always have to come from the yoruba side and not the igbo side?

That is why it is said that the bini culture is not homogeneous.

For example the word BINI is from   the[b] Itsekhiri's "Ubinu"[/b].

@PhysicsMHD

The Benin people are [b]heterogeneous [/b]they have historical links with Itsekhiri, Yoruba, IJaw and Igbo people.

So it is possible they learnt bronze making form the Yoruba s.

[quote author=tpia@ link=topic=797242.msg9502063#msg9502063 date=1320702379]physics qed

^^let me ask you a few questions.

1. what is the exact origin of the people who make up bini.

for edo in general, we have the auchi side which is igbiroid and/or nupoid.

ijaws still being contested but obviously a northern link somewhere.

but for benin- where exactly are the people from.

why do almost all of you here dodge this question unfailingly.

2. given the fact that benin was at various times a transit point for groups of people passing through there, why do you find it so hard to accept the fact that yorubas contributed greatly to the rise of benin empire. You're free to dispute this if you wish.


the facts as they stand are without yoruba there would be no benin empire.

once again, dispute that as you like.[/quote]The name Benin is a Portuguese corruption ultimately from the Itsekhiri's "Ubinu", which came into use during the reign of Oba Ewuare the Great circa 1440. The Itsekhiri's "Ubinu" was used to describe the royal administrative centre or city or capital proper of the kingdom, Edo. 'Ubinu' was later corrupted to 'Bini' by the mixed ethnicities living together at the centre; and further corrupted to "Benin" around 1485 when the Portuguese began trade relations with Oba Ewuare. See Oba of Benin.

The Igodomigodo kingdom was renamed Edo by Oba Eweka, after which the Edos refer to themselves as Oviedo 'child of Edo'. The Edo capital was Ubinu, known as Benin City to the Portuguese who first heard about it from the coastal Itsekhiri, who pronounced it this way; from this the kingdom came to be known as the Benin Empire in the West.

coogar:
how come your own doctor hasn't made you a junkie?
would a doctor force drugs on his patient?

michael jackson was a celebrity. he would get what he wants from any doctor. we all know how this could have panned out.
propofol isn't supposed to be administered outside a hospital environment but i can tell you every doctor in america would administer it to michael if he had demanded it. it boils down to professionalism versus compromising

good luck to conrad murray!
someone had to pay for michael jackson's death.

Micheal Jackson or any celebrity  demand on drug use is not the issue here.

Were are talking about ethics and professionalism, any Doc that ignores that will blame him-self.

Doctor Murray loosed  one of his practice licence and his other licences might go.

Beaf:
You obviously never read the thread or you would have seen this: https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-797397.0.html#msg9489630
They call your type, shiit flies, cos you just badge in and follow the crowd like a man with weak balls. Cowards like you die several times.

If you cannot get up to challenge corruption, then you are an irredeemable coward.

How Hypocritical,

You presented  article supporting removal of fuel subsidy and you claim your are marching  against corruption.

Who do you think you are fooling here, your GEJ and his fans corrupt, tell them.

Your type is the[b] FANI KAYODE[/b]of the world, who will turn against his master when he leave Aso-Rock.

Beaf:
So how come they are cowards now if they weren't cowards before? Mystery!
It is either you are cowards or you have something to hide.

LOL, look who is talking,

Because people don't  to support your FAKE AND HYPOCRITICAL "March Against Corrupt Government Officials In Nigeria", doesn't mean they are cowards.

Let me ask you, how many protest or march against GOVT  have you done in Nigeria.

wesley80:
One reason this call wont be heeded; Do not expect cowards to echo a war cry. The noises made on this forum barely stem from honest dissatisfaction but mostly mischief championed by ethnic supremacists who personify the saying that Courage is easy when danger is faraway!, the chips are down and all they can offer are diversionary arguments, You'd think they'd jump at an opportunity to truly express themselves and rally ordinary citizens to pursue a cause they've made so much "Cyber noise" over regardless of who initiated it. awon ACN groomed cowardzzzzzzzzzzz!!!!!!!!!

Beaf:
^
Exactly my thoughts, people seem to be searching for all sorts of strange reasons to avoid confronting corruption and byet we complain so much.
As Fela sang:
"My people de fear too mu-uch!. . . We no wan die! We no wan wound! We no wan quench! We no wan go! I get one child! Mama de for house Papa! de for house! I wan build house! I don build house!

If you are skeptical about me, then organise yourselves. I don't need to be part of it, what is most important is that the owners of tomorrow must begin to realise that nobody will make the sun shine for them, because past generations have failed. If for some lame reason, you claim to be sceptical about me, who will you blame?

Dude, talk to your mechanic, your girlfriend, your cook. . . Anybody! Every single soul in that country is sick of corruption and it is only the rising of the street to eyeball it and demand transparency that will boot it out of existence.

I repeat, talk to everybody about the need to rise. The results will shock you; as homerac7 mentioned, even the middle classes are ready. I had a beer with quite a number of my guy's the other day and all we talked about was the sordid nature of Nigeria; not one of those guys is in need of anything, they are all doing pretty well, but an alarming number spoke about willingness to carry weapons to end the matter.
Some other contributors have also expressed fear of the police shooting. The police themselves are tired of collecting "roger."

Let us demand a society without corruption. It is a duty.

Reading comments from these two Sycophants make me laugh.

Didn't GEJ  benefit from the March against Yaradua's men by SNG?

The-same people your are calling cowards fought for Democracy from IBB - Abacha Regime.

Only credible people can lead any Protest against GEJ GOVT, and not a GEJ FAN.

Outstrip:
Hmm. So this is out of guilt. If she had two abortions then tha can definitely affect her ability to conceive especially when it is one of those illegal abortions done in someones boys quaters. It makes sense now why she does not want her husband to know that she is going for a check up. [b]She has not told him that she had any abortions. I am not sure why you did not marry her since you knew you contributed to possibly destroying her womb. You have now made it another man's problem. [/b]Your friend should be patient. She will conceive I hope. I hope it is juts one of those things that happen and not as a result of any physical damage to her reproductive organs

+100

Onyocha:
cool! Very christ-like indeed.
Atleast you are honest enough to tell us that extremists from both sides contribute to the mayhem.

As far as i know,whatever crisis in Nigeria that translates into muslim-christian violence has its root in the hausa-igbo mutual hatred/rivalry for each other.

I am aware that northerners,muslims and christians,lived in peace.the igbos have incited religious hatred and tried to use religion to make sure christian northerners alienate themselves from their muslim northern brothers.there is irony in the sense that the northerner who fought against biafra in the person of Yakubu Gowon is christian.

MUMU

When does carrying  arms to defend against Islamic militants become extremists.

So you actually created Igbo username to bash Igbo people.

FOOL.

Karbala:
replace the word 'muslim' with 'christian' or any other religion and the result is the same.

Illitracy,ignorance and intolerance is all the same regardless of the identity of the perpetrator of madness.dont use cheap shots to unleash your hate for islam and muslims.your islamophobia is apparent when one observes your posts on NL.

Lol,

And how many Christian illiterates from the south do you hear or see engage in these act.

For your info the sponsors of the Jihadist movement are well educated and enlightened.

Some years ago some UI MSS student threatened to behead are fellow student for provoking them.

THESE IS AN IDEOLOGY AND A  AWAY OF LIFE .

honeric01:
And you're suppose to be a christian? the better religion? the alternate to Islam? thank God i knew and know Jesus before i joined NAIRALAND to read hatred from people like you, if not, i'd be doomed for hell cos i wouldn't have chose to become a christian.


Give yourself some respect at least, being a lady, i wouldn't want to go the thuggish way with you, and for the record, you are also a christian right? until you remove the hatred from your eyes, you won't see the main picture. those thugs killing people are not doing it for Christ nor Muhammed, wake up while you can.

@phreakabit

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@Torch1

 Wake up and don't join the bandwagon, think independently, this is what is killing Africans, don't be another extremist of a christian, where in the article did they mention that they were worshiping in the church? the article only said 8 churches at different locations got burnt down but you're not sure if there were any soul in the church when it happened. the same article there were fighting, gunshots and bombings a night before then so how are you sure most of the dead didn't come from there?


Stop the religious hatred, if you want to claim that my religion is better than Islam, prove it by your action and character, not the way you're going about it now.  try visiting Pastor Adeboye's facebook face often to learn how to draw people to Christianity through the way you act, reason and talk.

I really doubt your are a Christian, maybe just another Muslin Apologist trying to spin this event around.

For your information People live and work in these Churches 24/7, so there are possibilities people died .

Lot of Christians live in the SE, SS, and SW how many Mosque have bombed.

This is not the first time and this will not be the last.

Any time their is a crises in the North they vent angers on innocent Christians.

For your information Christian are already carrying arms to Church in Kaduna, Kano and other Northern cities.

OkparaIgbo:
silly Yoruba Things, !! Kidnapping , ?? 

I thought it honly(Yoruba accent)  happened in Benin Republic,  Senseless and Idiotic people. How come a father and son where caught, ?

OOhhh sorry Seun is Igbo,  .
Animals that claim to be the holiest, Imagine renting a bungalow without qualms of concience,  DAMN THIS PEOPLE.

FOOL,

The tread was created to bash the Yoruba peeps, but it failed woefully .

Next time High_Chief will read the news vary well before rushing your tribalistic A*S to NL.

denitro:
https://img202.imageshack.us/img202/4090/gunx.jpg

Is that a gun or what?

Yes probably an UZI(submachine gun.).

Yes AFRICA is a country while Nigerian is a Continent.

Na she is talking from a prophetic, figurative and idiomatic angle.

These YEYE GEJ fans no go kill person for here o.

Baba Suwe Freed, NDLEA’s Embarrassing Loss  
After 23 days in detention in the camp of the National Drug Law Enforcement Agency, NDLEA, over suspicions that he concealed nacortic substance in his stomach, ace comedian, Babatunde Omidina a.k.a. Baba Suwe was this morning set free on bail by an Ikeja High Court. This brings the 23-day ‘stand-up comedy’ to an end with its attendant huge embarrassment for the NDLEA.

•Baba Suwe sandwiched by his supporters and lawyer, Bamidele Aturu at the Ikeja High Court this morning.PHOTOS: IDOWU OGUNLEYE.
Justice Yetunde Idowu had on Tuesday ordered the NDLEA to release Omidina on bail today if he did not excrete the substance he was suspected of hiding in his stomach.
At the resumed hearing of the matter before the court this morning, NDLEA lawyer, Mr. Femi Oloruntoba told the court that since Tuesday, nothing incriminating has been found in Baba Suwe’s stomach.
Oloruntoba informed the court that NDLEA is not opposed to Omidina’s release on bail but the agency requested that he should report at its office on Wednesday next week for further investigation.
Baba Suwe’s lawyer Bamidele Aturu opposed the NDLEA’s request and noted that since the court bail order of Tuesday the agency has subjected his client to several medical tests without finding any banned narcotic substance in his stomach.
“On Wednesday, my client was taken to an unknown hospital in Victoria Island, Lagos where he was subjected to numerous tests for over 12 hours. He was purged and several tubes were inverted in his nerves and anus but still nothing was found on him,” he told the court.
Baba Suwe, who was looking frail and weak, further confirmed his lawyer’s argument and said, “they took me to a hospital on the Island, when we got there, they put a tube inside my mouth and another one in my anus. They started pumping water into my stomach through the anus. That day, I excreted six times and I have since then been excreting like that on daily basis.”
Asked by the court, if Baba Suwe’s account of event was true and why there was no report of such before the court, NDLEA lawyer, Oloruntoba said he was not aware of such test and that no report was forwarded to him in that regard.
However, he promised to communicate to the court if there was such test and the result of it.
After accepting NDLEA’s explanation on the test, Justice Idowu humorously asked Baba Suwe to go home.
“Mr. Omidina, you can now go home. I wish you well and please, take good care of yourself,” Justice Idowu said.
Immediately the court session ended, hundreds of Baba Suwe’s supporters who besieged the court started jubilating inside the court premises.
Court has adjourned the matter till Thursday, 24 November, 2011.
—Henry Ojelu
http://pmnewsnigeria.com/2011/11/04/baba-suwe-freed-ndlea%E2%80%99s-embarrassing-loss/

Funny how people behave,

Someone is celebrating her marriage while haters are fighting to bring her down.

But why would the moderator  and site admin allow people access other peeps IP Address.

swiftycool:
Ill say its not cast in stone what women want; they come to the earth as d most confused species. Women want different things at various stages or ages of their lives. Btw 18 & 25 theyre after mony, a gud 4uck & want to b worshiped. Btw 26 and 30 they demand respect & want security, btw 30 & 35 dey sudenly realize d world doesnt revolve around dem & desper8ly crave any attention at all. Btw 36 older dey bcome matured to find out dat life is about real give & take & wish dey cud get even half of wat dey give

HA HA so true,

But women go chop you raw for this comment o

ajalaolanr:
A bad mother will definitely breed a bad daughter , same for a woman that failed to keep her home and has her daughter seen her with another man sleeping with her, that daughter will never value the sacredness of the institution called marriage, that daughter will even be worse than her mother.

my advise, never marry a woman from a broken home, her mother will ruin your home and her daughter will never value marriage. HEED THIS WARNING OOOO. worse still is if that daughter has seen another man climb her mother,that daughter will never respect her home unless there is a divine intervention somewhere.

Subscribing .

pkv:
so wat wuld u lyk my dude hakiri 2 do as your real man na.u know u guys aint a mismatch.i represent my pal so free your mind state

LOL,

She wants harakiri to get a wife, to prove he is a REAL MAN.

rokiatu:
hmmmm my husband to be wouldn't even allowed that.


Lord!! Thank God for the man I have. Stoopid tradition.

Another one with colonial feminist mentality.

For your information their is noting wrong in kneeling for your hubby.

Even the whites culture you are coping accepts kneeling e.g A man kneels to propose to his GF .

But trust Nigerians we throw away our tradition for the kim kardashian of these world.

People should start reading[b] "She Stoops to Conquer"[/b].

ronkebp:
AM BACK TO YOUR POST, WHO SAYS MARRAIGE IS SUPPOSED TO BE PROBLEM FREE,? IN WHICH DICTIONARY OR LITERATURE DID YOU SEE THAT? ALL MARRAIGES, AND I REPEAT ALL, MARRAIGES ARE FULL OF PROBLEMS AND IT TAKES ''MATURITY'' TO BE ABLE TO SOLVE MARITAL PROBLEMS. THAT IS WHAT '' REAL MEN WITH SENESES'' ARE SAYING ON THIS POST.

OH SHUT-UP.

What real men are you talking about,

The real man that marries, divorce and remarries just to be acceptable to the society.

The real man that beat his wife silly just to prove he is THE MAN.

You keep revolving around Real Man and Marriage as if life is all about marriage.

Marriage is just a contract and anybody can go into it.

But Real Man knows what he wants and go for it, irrespective of what the society dictates.

A Real Man accept his success and failures and blame nobody for it.

djustice:
Can they really be called Independent Power Plants if they're been established by the state? Or is this just another wish list on the part of the governor, looking to attract "PRIVATE INVESTORS" into Lagos State?

If it's the former, please call them State Power Plants (SPPs) and stop trying to mislead the world with useless propaganda!

By the way, I do welcome the possibility of adding more megawatts to the National grid, although I tend to agree with a former PDP gubernatorial aspirant, who said that the way forward for Lagos is for the state to invest in completely NEW distribution networks, all underground, avoiding PHCN's creaking infrastructure, on an LGA by LGA basis, and then interlink them, so that the IPPs can have a guaranteed market for the power they generate (100% evacuation). Private IPPs would rush into Lagos, especially if ALL customers were to have pre-paid meters on that grid.

Propaganda does not run a state, as we've seen over the last worsening and worsening 12 years. Action does.

Yes they are Independent Power Plants built by private investors .

I have seen one of those IPPs in Lagos Island.

And forget about the[b] National Grid[/b] is all politics.

Every state should be allowed to Generate and distribute her electricity energy.

Mixed economy(Capitalism and Welfarism) is the best.

Private investment, freedom to buy, sell, and profit, combined with economic planning by the state, including significant regulations (e.g. wage or price controls), taxes, tariffs, and state-directed investment.