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izzou:
[color=royalblue]When Buhari won in 2019, nobody was portraying Atiku us the saviour.

We just felt he should replace the current failure.

But these guys can't see any wrong with Obi. They are not objective and open minded.

They don't even believe its a contest, and there would be a winner which wouldn't be theirs.

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True, I think that at least 50% of the population will be dissatisfied with whoever emerges as president next year.
The fallout of the results will reveal the true intentions of some people, all obidients claim to be patriots who love Nigeria so much, the litmus test of that love is when their savior doesn't emerge, will they undertake actions against Nigeria or do the patriotic thing, we shall see.

izzou:
[color=royalblue]What should be worrisome is if Obi loses...

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What happened when Buhari won 2019?
A lot of them will pray that who ever won fails, so there is the satisfaction of "I told you so", to replace the pain of defeat. They will also criticize all actions of the winner too. I think by abd large, this will be the response, Obi supporters are not that many to cause any damage on large scales, there are actually very many reasonable Obidients.
At the extreme, those that dropped Biafra flag for LP logo will pick Biafra flag again, and start clamoring for separation.

onyemaair:
All these yarns you are spewing is evidence of how these evil people have succeeded in making supporting Obi look very unglamorous.

You have fallen for their evil tactics.
Supporting Obi is something you should do proudly because the man himself is the very best of the rest.
He is a bundle of principle and intellect.
When you see him carrying his own bags in the airport or using economy class. It's not because he can't afford it.

It is a very deliberate campaign tactics to project an image of simplicity. One thing all leaders should do. The man is demystifying the concept of grandiosity of politicians and projecting how accessible our leaders should be and how simple a life they should lead. He is literally leading by example.

This is just one example of how this man is trying to change our political culture here. One where leaders are worshipped and inaccessible.

It is people that are supporting old corrupt sick patients that have to be ashamed of their choice because deep within them, they know they are projecting a terrible choice on nigerians again.

Hear this man speak here and tell me you've not fallen in love with him. A man who hasn't collected a penny from the state government since he left office while others are stealing billions of dollars legally. This man is a bundle of integrity.

You believe in Obi, you believe his shit is gold, fair enough, you can believe it, but why must I believe it too? I don't believe it, so I must have fallen for evil tactics.
At the bolded, thank God you know it's a deliberate campaign tactics, yet you fall for the campaign tactics like a fool, and berate me for not doing the same
Na so Buhari take do campaign tactics 2015 and many guys fell for it, this time na Obi turn. Buhari in 2015 had more integrity than Obi has currently, at least there was no evidence of Buhari putting state money in a company where his family has interest or buhari moving 250M cold cash meant for state, fast forward to 2022, we see how far the integrity and simplicity led us
I have heard him speak, he says too little with plenty words, quoting stats, and diverting attention with needless stories, and of course his solutions are half baked, seems like he thinks he has a magic wand. oops, since I have not fallen in love with him after hearing him speak, then I must be captive of the evil tactics that is preventing me from falling from snake oil salesman tactics.

Not everyone that will vote for Obi will be Obidient or Obi supporters, all this by force conversion, one would think it is a religious exercise.

onyemaair:
All these make no sense at all brother.
You can't just say you are voting Obi just for the sake of voting. That's stupidity. The power of your vote is dependent on the number of other voters.

I have always said that Obi is the best of the rest. The other 2 are old corrupt entities that just want to be president purely for the purpose of self aggrandizement and egoism.

Obi is the one who has consistently spoken on Nigerian issues and yes, his last 2 interviews haven't been as sharp as the rest he's given before but the man is highly intellectually sound.

If you don't believe in him as a person then you might just as well vote for either of the old thieves.

Saying you are voting Obi solely because you must vote is a very silly position. You are causing more harm to the campaign than doing good for your country. Shalom.

when the options are three different shades of bad, then I assure you that I can vote for the sake of voting.
The power of my vote is the power of my vote, it is not dependent on anybody, I mustn't become part of a senseless campaign wheel in hopes of increasing the power of my vote, God speed to you if you undertaken that role.
I don't even understand your issues, I must be screaming Obidient, or be bashing everyone supporting other candidates or swallow squawka man's words hook, line and sinker before I can be said to be doing good for my country??
Na you like Nigeria pass, you try.

onyemaair:
Emmynator has shifted from I'm voting Obi to Obi is just as worse as the rest.

I shifted from where to where? Come be careful o, because I don't lick Obi balls doesn't mean you should call my name in a stupid roll call.
I believe the real stupidity and mortgaging of brain is believing in a politician, which Obi is, and I didn't shift from any belief to this belief, my first post on this thread, I made it clear that I am not an Obidient or Obidient as the case may be, but I have always maintained that Obi has my vote, because I must make a choice, so I didn't move from I'm voting Obi to Obi is just as worse as the rest, I am actually maintaining my original stand that Obi is just as worse as the rest.
If you expect me to lick a squakwa merchant snake oil salesman politician's balls, it simply isn't happening.
I will cast my one vote on election day, but till then I will engage in peaceful discussions on the election subjects, Obi and Atiku aren't fighting (Obi still calls Atiku "my respected elder brother" ) why will I now waste my time and energy fighting over them?

cochtrane:
They could possibly still be sending out. I'm not too sure about it.

There are still sending out, a friend of mine received a notification of rejection just yesterday evening.

cochtrane:
I hope you guys applied for the Google Developers Machine Learning Bootcamp for Young Africans (SSA). If you did and have been successfully admitted, please let's connect and strategize. I just got notification of admission.

Congrats, I have been waiting for the notification, I refreshed by email all through yesterday, I later gave up and stopped.
Is there any chance they are still sending notification of admission?

izzou:
[color=royalblue]Obi just happened to show up in a time when Nigerians are left with only two options; The devil and the deep blue sea.

That guy doesn't know the work he wants to collect.

When I was tackling him on the Chelsea thread, e be like say I wan stay woke.

Listening to him is just stats and Insha allah......

Like afrodoc said, na lose-lose-lose situation we dey[/color]

Omo, maybe him too wants to try his luck.
Honestly, I thought he was going to be vice to Atiku again, but as he left pdp and started getting media attention, I watched his interviews on human rights radio, Voice of Nigeria and arise, and some little clips here and there, and my brain was screaming "snake oil salesman"
Anyways, it's election period, man must market himself.

Segedinho:
i think he said something about state policing .

also,i am in support of withholding some sensitive info.

just like his VC said...he can't really divulge some certain information they have come to realised.... ...

i think his VC quoted this on arise TV when quizzed on security....."The things you think you know are not".


Obi problem is trying too much to impress everyone with stats n figures.....

How do we know he has a solution to the security issues then?? And why is he not sharing the secret formula with the government or it must be him that will implement it?

izzou:
[color=royalblue]Hmmmm

You used to support Obi vigorously. The scales don fall from your eyes?

Modified: Not your moniker. I apologise[/color]

LOL, I dey the same boat with you.
I am neither obidient, Batified or atikulated.
I believe that they are all different shades of bad, but in the spirit of exercising my democratic rights, I will be voting Obi.


But seriously, can any obidient explain what is so secret about Obi's solution to security that he stated "but I won't be able to disclose it" about 5 times in the interview. And also the elephant in the room question Nigerians failed to ask Buhari in 2015, "why hasn't he shared the magic formula with the government?" (assuming there is one).

I just listened to PO's interview on Channels with Seun.
What does he mean when he says he can't disclose what he will do when he becomes president in terms of security, and that he promises he will be decisive about it?
Nigerians should trust that he has the solution and believe that he will implement it when he becomes president, just like that? Lmaooooooo
The rest of the interview was typical Obi, squakwa fiend, so no comments on that, I am just surprised that he added a new angle to his game, that's all.
Omo, Nigeria is bleeped beyond 2023, our supposed best option is not even that serious. I go vote Obi 2023, let's see if Obidients will be better at giving excuses than Buharists, looks like they speak English better.

BlueRayDick:
It’s so annoying when we talk about current insecurity challenged this administration has been unable to proffer workable solutions to; only for u to see their apologists come up with stuff like - there’s always been farmers-herders crises since the 80’s, there’s always been separatists agitations, even under Jonathan Boko Haram was hoisting flag in LGA’s in the north east ….. blah blah …. Black sheep .

I mean for 4ck sake! We are here talking about serious security challenges that has been so bad that terrorists are shooting at the air force with anti-aircraft guns, terrorists are attacking presidential guards , terrorists are taking over runway of an airport , terrorists are posting videos and pictures of their victims on open internet and they have not been challenged successfully or made to pay for these audacities.

As I dey like this, I don dey Siddon look mode. Make dem vote anybody dem want; democracy has always been a case of less conscious majority imposing their choice on the more conscious minority . Las las na the majority go still suffer the brunt.

"Democracy replaced tyranny of the minority with tyranny of the majority" - BRF

"Democracy replaced tyranny of the minority with tyranny of the majority"
- Babatunde Raji Fashola.

When I think that probably more than 50% of the population will be displeased with the winner of the next election, this statement holds greater meaning.

izzou:
[color=royalblue]I say make I earn one tech certificate on the sides.

I start one Front End Dev course online.

Omo, I never even finish the first module, e be like say the whole world dey my head

HTML5, CSS, Bootstrap....

Javascript still dey forward, I go still learn React.


Person no go give up like this?[/color]

Lmaooooooo, don't give up o.
That's how I decided to go into data science / Machine Learning. I quit my job to focus on learning it, 5 months in now and it seems I haven't even gone far, but I have learnt a whole lot
It's very intimidating if you look at the whole picture, just conquer every frame little by little, it gets less intimidating as you go.

I decided to do an analysis of 2019 election.
A tiny tidbit.

Oasis007:
FACT CHECK: Are bishops, pastors who attended Tinubu's unveiling of Shettima fake?

https://pmnewsnigeria.com/2022/07/21/fact-check-are-bishops-pastors-who-attended-tinubus-unveiling-of-shettima-fake/?utm_source=&utm_medium=twitter

Paid news site?

Kloppo:
"Trust me bro" over cited and verified sources on Google??

Some one that I saw a video of him dancing in church yesterday
This matter of his religion can't be settled, for every picture of him in mosque, you can find him in church.

donjazet:
I expect to see soo many videos tomorrow of pastors condemning the APC ticket and endorsing Peter Obi.

Soo many churches are going to preach against the Muslim Muslim ticket. Personally I don't like people using the pulpit to preach politics, but if it works for good if us all, I'm fine.

I hope you don't cry when Mosques start preaching and supporting the Muslim Muslim ticket

raumdeuter:
Your bet is kinda safe. You are 100% sure of the Tinubu side the Atiku side, you havent factored in how much of Atikus portion Kwankwanso will bite off

True, I forget Kwankwaso is in the ring sometimes

Oasis007:


Lo f'okan ba le..... though that Atiku own eh!

I thought Northerners are the most tribalistic of the lots.
I think I will wager on Tinubu winning too, if Atiku doesn't get 50% northern votes, I am afraid, it's Tinubu's victory.

Joezinho:
How many Igbo influencers/celebrities are supporting Tinubu?

They said they are supporting Obi because he's young and all kinda bulllshit. Sowore campaigned in 2019, how many igbos supported him? Obi is being supported mainly by Easterners not because he's worth it .Trust me, if Obi isn't an Igbo man, they won't even consider him.. Since they have turned it into tribal politics, no one should come crying at the end..

Honestly,i don't have anything against Obi but the so called kids insulting Yorubas everywhere in Nigeria, think that will help their candidate. Ask Mr Obi to highlight poverty alleviating programs he has initiated in Anambra or elsewhere in Nigeria since he handed over to Obaino? I doubt there’s any.

Apart from his talks online about the economy which I’m okay with, I see nothing else in his scorecard.

It will be funny if Obi gets 80% of SE votes, and anyone still accuses the north of tribalism in terms of voting. I was shocked that when yoruba actors declared support for Tinubu, people were crying tribalism, but if it is an Igbo star declaring support for PO, it is competence, I think it's double standards. it is just convenient, that obidients can use competence to cover the tribal elements of Obi's candidacy.
I don't think tribalism is a bad thing per se, some people's sense of identity starts on a tribal level, so it is easier to trust and identify with someone who is from your tribe.
Call it a flaw of democracy as practiced in Africa if you must, only a few below 20% of the population vote for no sentimental reasons and can fall into the category of educated voters.

I just wagered a bet that Tinubu will get 50% of SW votes and Atiku will get 50% of Northern Votes.
How safe is my head?

izzou:
[color=royalblue]If you no get money, hide your face
I hide my face, make another football club run my race....[/color]

Brother, you just dey launch high precision missiles since

So all the candidates are in support of subsidy removal, that rules out that point.

larride:
I haven't really heard him talk about subsidy removal so I dont know.

Hmmmm, I hope he includes something about that in his manifesto or something.
I don't want subsidy to be removed abeg, the suffering will be too much.

Modified: I just checked, he supports subsidy removal
Hmmmm, dark times ahead.

EmmanuelScott1:
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I watched the interview, don't spin anything.
He said (not verbatim) "if I am not going to use the money well, then I won't remove subsidy".
That's a political statement.

GloriousGbola:
diesel and atk are dergulated - diesel is 750 to 850mper litre today

ditto for ATK

i have a project in kano. flights were 25k at start of this year.my last flight was 70k . hotel cost has gone up because diesel

every business operating cost has gone up because of disesl. ditto for every good ytransported via trailer

now imagine that petrol goes from 165 to 700/litre

that is instant inflation

your n100 okada ride will jump to like n500 straiight
ditto for danfo, ditto for uber

you will think twice, thrice four times about any journey or triprzr-echogeneration
everyone using petrol gen will embark on further tightening [i no longer run through the night]

and that is middle class people

for the real poor, living day to day, with no savings to first deplete . . .

this country is not built for it

let obi enter and actually pull that ish - the obidenst will flip faster than they did on gej

this government actually killed the subsidy in 2016 , when price of oil was so low (courtesy of saudi flooding the market in a bid to destroy fracking) that it didn't matter. the moment oil pricespetrol rose, and price of petrol rose, they reinstated subsidy as underecoverry - NNPC only

we are truly bleeped - low oil price low income, low price of petrol - high oil price, good income, high price of petrol

Let them rest on this fuel subsidy removal thing abeg, it's like you explained armadegeon to me

Larride
What is your principal's take on subsidy?

Who dey rep Atiku?

EmmanuelScott1:
He said if there's an alternative, he will remove it. You don't have to conclude yet he's in for subsidy removal.

Didn't he say he will remove it during his Arise TV interview? Even during 2019 VP debate he argued in favor of removal of subsidy, during Voice of Nigeria podcast, he said subsidy is fraud and said he will remove it, yet you said we shouldn't conclude that he will remove it?

Ibime:
Fuel subsidy is the only Govt support Nigerians receive. People will die if they remove it. Fundamentally, fuel subsidy is inefficient, but in Nigeria's case, removal of subsidy will drag people from poverty to death.

Peter Obi is for subsidy removal by the way. Some niggas go cry if they have to pay N500 per litre. N400 is the current landing cost, add jara for profit

Yes, I know Obi is for it, that's why I am asking.
It will be a serious issue if it is removed, the economy will shut down, asany small businesses that depends on petrol will be unable to cope, but then the concerns about the amounts we pay for it is valid.

Oasis007:


Seyi is cooking. Folashade is cooking..... yet some still don't understand politics beyonds sharing Studio with Abati and Rufai everytime.

Obi is fighting against great odds, he definitely has to sell himself more aggressively, hence the many interviews.
Campaign starts officially in August, interesting times ahead.