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coogar: the long and short of the story is - the farmers are currently enjoying super-fast broadband internet as we speak. BT had told them it would cost £10,000 to hook one house in their village. they took matter in their own hands and solved the problem that would have taken them years......kidney transplant? gimme a surgeon to teach me the basics and which vein to open and what part of the skin surface to cut for 6 months and i would be cutting people up like a surgeon general.

coogar: it wasn't corruption and fraud - these people have been applying trial and error over the years. look at the forex market - what mathematical/accounting skills do you need apart from common sense? isn't that what the market is basically all about? from nasdaq to nikkei, all na gambling.

AjanleKoko: For me the degree means little. Whether local or foreign.
For entry-level graduates, as long as you meet the minimum requirements for entry, and are able to pass the tests and interviews, you deserve the job.
For experienced people, it's a lot more straightforward - you either have the experience or you don't. The whole issue of 'foreign vs local' is an HR fad, and very little more.

In fact I think the significance of the foreign education is more for the student, not necessarily for the future employer.

It's much better to study in a more liberal, dynamic, and forward-looking environment, like, say Caltech, than to study in a Unilag that operates with sub-par facilities, lack of adequate faculty and resources, irregular school calender, and near-absence of research. In a Caltech you would feel you got your money's worth.

For the future employer, it should not be a question of 'did you go to Caltech or Unilag?' It should be more of 'Show me the value you can bring to this company'.

coogar: an illiterate cannot read and write - all i said was anyone who can read and write plus some basic general knowledge would handle most of the things debosky is puffing his chest about. this may not necessarily work in nigeria where craftsmanship and artisan jobs don't involve theoretical side of things but it would definitely work in developed countries.

recently, some british farmers laid their own fibre optic cable system to hook on the internet when british telecoms refused to do it because of the cost! the farmers got together, bought large cables and laid it in their farmlands instead of digging the ground or laying underwater. these people are farmers for feck's sake but they knew the basics. debosky's company would have charged them £10bn to send engineers like debosky who think the world revolves around them because he had triple M.Sc and 5 Ph.Ds

understanding the basics will only take you as far as there are no complications and what laws of science are applicable in certain terrains or conditions. That's where a professional comes to hand. Believe it or not they are important and the British farmers wouldn't have done as much as core telecoms engineers would have done. Else, take a book on basic surgery and go and do a complex kidney transplant. Of course with basic reading and writing skills you can!

coogar: tactical direction is guess work - it's logic based on a series of yes or no answers at every junction. with all the millions of years experience bankers have garnered, they still took the economy into a triple-dip recession so where's the so-called expertise. teach a secondary school student with an average intelligence quotient the basics, give him some in-house company training and he would cope just fine. i mean, he would cope very well, maybe better than debosky sef.

I wonder what guess work and logic are doing in the same sentence??
Another point, banker's experience didn't crash the market. By-passing the rules and playing finance James Bond did.
It was a pure act of corruption and fraud which had a global spiral effect. Enron, Bernard Madoof are cases in point. Lehmans Brothers is another of such case.

coogar: that's the twist about this whole thing.....

there's no job i have done that i wouldn't have coped with as a secondary school graduate - what i am trying to say is it would take the dumbest of a dimwit not to cope with any job regardless of his grade in the university. they make you go through all those hoops and when that dream job lands on your lap, you are basically checking the pressure and the temperature of a pump every 1 hour and you are getting paid £500 per day for it. tell a junior secondary school student to do that and he would certainly do it without stress.

that line of argument is a bit lame to claim no organisation would hire a dullard. every graduate who can read and write would cope in most organisations. 90% of the tasks are common sense. a bit of in-house training is included too so it's impossible for any graduate of any discipline not to cope with the tasks required. under the cover of this, applicants of all kinds slip through the system.

StarBoard: Thanks.
I'm hardly around.Just enough time to say a few and buzz off.
Plus I can't stomach some behaviour anymore. It's a new year.Someone's gotta channel his energies into something more profitable than a d1ck-measuring contest with some juveniles/charlatans in a largely-anonymous forum.

how have you been? Trying to reach you on e-mail.

Jarus: The lack of merit being talked of in this thread is that of bribing, senator writing notes, exams leaking etc. I don't have any problem with networking. Networking is fair part of the game to me. I have recommended friends for 'shortlist' in organizations and they got called up for test (because they have good CVs, not because they were my friends. If they didn't have good CVs or didn't meet the employers' criteria, my recommendation wouldn't have helped. Some got the jobs, some didn't, because they couldn't scale the selection process (tests and interviews). That to me, is fair. They went through the standard selection process.

Ability to network (without any unholy means) and keep good friends is itself part of being smart. Good network gives you access to helpful information. For resource-saving reasons, some organizations may not advertise some positions (and it is not a crime not to advertise) and may rely on internal recommendations. For my friend that got Oando job, I only sent his CV to HR (you don't expect an Oando to advertise NYSC position) and they found his CV good enough, called him for test alongside other guys whose CVs they got and he was among the 4 0r 5 taken at the end, because of his performance in test. That was his first contact with the company, but later got permanent position after NYSC because he scaled another round of interviews for permanent position.

I don't have any problem with networking. Linkedin was helpful to me too in getting my current job. That is networking. Networking crosses the line of merit when shady practices begin to come in. And with or without network, you can still get job in Nigeria.

StarBoard: In as much as the overall selection was puzzling, the tactics were working to the last jot up till that red card.
Simple.

Cristalz: @Emp
Pistorius shot his girl. . .Hugo Chavez is dead. . .we lost to RMD. . .not the time to fight.

Cristalz: The strategy was working because we did not give RMD any opportunities to score. We frustrated them quiet. Ronaldo became invisible.
Plus, we were a goal up and patiently working on getting more. "If it ain't broke, don't fix it".
Now, reacting to Jose's change is another matter. You have a point. I just don't agree that Giggs shoulda been the sacrifice.

Cristalz and Coogar agreeing? Now, rapture is near


Oh, ok. . . . .Cristalz agreeing with Coogar is more like it

saxywale: I once used man know man to secure an interview and job at dfid (making market work for......). I was to be posted to kano and that was when the bombing was intense. I chose life over money. abi dfid nor be international NGO?

dayokanu: Are you trying to tell me that you work in Muri Okunola now? Emperoh, You gave me money to drop your resume with HR. Better confess now or I would show everyone my Bank statement where you deposited

This man!! please where is Muri Okunola? Oh, PwC head office. . . . .
Please can you post the statement? Maybe, just maybe we might prove your real worth!

coogar: i don't believe emperoh.....
you want to tell me you didn't rub the palms of your interviewer before you got your current job? you didn't take him to obeledu-ugada for a weekend trip?

Yes boss!! I rubbed no palm, gave them no virgins from Obeledu neither did i share our special, fresh palmy!!

Absa: 2m cash. I'm in abuja

BizBooks: Your agent will need the original Bill of Lading - BOL (that's all). You can get the BOL
from your shipping company after you have made full payment for the shipment. Some shipping
companies will offer to send the BOL to your agent but it is safer to do it yourself by
courier. Make sure you have a photocopy of the BOL before sending it to Lagos.

Also, to speed up the process, fax or email a copy of the BOL to your agent so he can start
the clearing process before the original arrives. Remember, Customs will only accept the
originals.

Fhemmmy: I think if he could convince the police and buy them 1 keg of Palmy . . . They will be in his corner and with all the facts, some people will take some nice quarters in cell, but once all is done, what happened to the ride, is Chief Spyder willing to fix the ride and drive or sell the ride, cos i am sure relatives and friends of the thieves will be watching.
I just think this is all a web that care must be taken in a jungle

ckenneths: The one in the car presently is the one tht ends with "790", and if it should be a Nissan Sunny Hatchback, it means it was my car and the plate was switched!
The car is a Nissan Bluebird so why a Sunny VIN on it
?

ckenneths: No jokes, Honmusa, are you sure of this? Please?