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Kobojunkie:
A person can only change when he or she she ready and open for change.

But Jesus change many people according to the scripture

Jesus Christ does not change people.

Your Jesus not the The Saviour of the World.

He never once hinted at wanting to change anyone.

He did, stop lying against Him.

The idea that He does comes only from religion and religion is not Jesus Christ.

No!
It came from God Himself.

Kobojunkie:
Religion is not Jesus Christ.

So you mean, religion can change someone but Jesus Christ can't.

MaxInDHouse:
So if you're not interested in knowing the type of WORKS James is talking about then TB Joshua remains what people call him: the man of God!

I love @color part.

You have confessed with your mouth that TB Joshua is A MAN OF GOD.

MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ if Jesus was convicted then there's no justice in human courts that's why God's word promised that true justice will prevail in God's kingdom not now!

But the same Watchtower is getting justice in court. Do you agree that the Justices Watchtower is getting aren't Justices?

You'll keep roping yourself in mud

So in a nutshell, Watchtower was convicted by court not just ACCUSED.

That's what we need

MaxInDHouse:
Just wanted to help you know the reason why Jesus was sweating profusely begging his dad to remove the cup from him {Luke 22:42} he knew that he must die to redeem mankind but for the case not to be as if he was guilty.
Millions of Jews later finds it really difficult to believe that Jesus could be the Christ.
WHY?
Because according to the story he was CONVICTED not just accused by the Jewish High Court!

After your mumbo jumbo, you still haven't answered the question.

Was Watchtower convicted under the law with verified facts or not?

So, Jesus was CONVICTED and not just ACCUSED.

Meaning Watchtower was also CONVICTED and not just ACCUSED and you're sounding as if it's just mere accusation so that you can add FALSE later.

This is getting interesting

MaxInDHouse:
According to the Jewish High Court of the first century was Jesus only accused or convicted before sentenced to death?

Which Jewish high court?

Was Watchtower convicted with verified facts or not?

RaymondHarmony:
After buying a new phone or power bank, why is it compulsory to charge it first before using it ?

To put it in a layman language.

It's good to charge your battery first because there's a layer that needs to form to make it last longer.

MaxInDHouse:
You don't know what ACCUSATIONS means but if you're truly sincere you can go to Israel now and listen to what Israelites has to say about Jesus of Nazareth perhaps after listening to all the bad reports they gathered about him and his disciples you will learn to focus not on accusations but verified facts! Exodus 23:1-2

Lying liar JWs.

Was Watchtower ACCUSED or was CONVICTED under the law?

Do you think without VERIFIED FACTS conviction will come?

Maybe, the next line you'll come up with will be that the Judges are also Watchtower enemies

You wanted to use this story of TB Joshua to start running your mouth as tap water against Christ Body but was caught inbtw.

madridguy:
So which government should I support if I may ask you?

Good question!

Since you agreed that any insecurity that lasted more than 24hrs government hand is in it, then supporting the same government means you're joining the same government in their evil.

You will know the truth and the truth will set you free!

madridguy:
Anytime I complained about insecurity under Buhari, the result from people like you is that they are owing me salary.

You didn't get it, did you?

Why do you keep SUPPORTING THE SAME GOVERNMENT when you know they're responsible for the same INSECURITY you're complaining about?

That's the point.

Complain under Tinubu, because he is not a fulani man.

But you know it's his GOVERNMENT that is responsible for the insecurity.

So why do you still keep supporting them?

Courz:
MaxinDhouse's loyalty is to Watchtower same way the loyalty of members of SCOAN is to TB Joshua. I just saw a thread with that as the Title

Not only him, majority of jws.

You can insult Jesus all you want JWs don't care but just switch to their gods in Warwick and see them in their full furry.

madridguy:
I have been doing so maybe you're not noticing it.

You've not!

If not you won't supported and defended Buhari for a whole 2 terms and as well campaign for Tinubu.

because I don't know how you'll know the government is behind insecurity yet drumming your support for the same government. It's just absurd.

atiku4President:
What goes around comes around. Initially certain people kept quiet over their activities, thinking they were immuned. Their cohorts in government changed their name from boko haram to bandits. Not knowig it's a matter of time, all of them and their own people will chop breakfast

You people don't even know how helpless most these villagers are about insecurity in this country.

Let me tell you, 80-90% of the villagers aren't in support of this terrorists, don't sit down in the south and just be assuming.

The funny thing is, if this village head gather small muscle and get ammunition for some guys, the next news will be, the village head is aiding and sponsoring terrorist and people like you will be like, yes their leaders know about the terrorist and the one funding them.

Well, the evil politicians will continue to use media against those villagers but to understand what is going on, travel to one of the villages and get first hand experience.

madridguy:
Any insurgency that lasts more than 24hours the govt has a hand in it.

Gen. Sanni Abacha.

But you never call out Buhari government and now Tinubu government for their involvement in all the insecurity in the country (according to your statement) rather you defend their government till this moment.

What happened?

MaxInDHouse:
The same thing i'm still talking, referring to what someone said over three months ago then following him up and down the forum.

So we should have been referring to what you did today ko

Well, it doesn't change the fact that your past will continue to hunt you on this forum.

If you don't know it's OK i'm not here for you!

Showing me will have been better, at least it will support your point.

You're free to keep it jàre!

And you're free to continue to cry over your past being shown to you.

There's no mistake in airing your beliefs it's either you accept or reject it but following the person up and down the forum like Boko Haram doesn't show a sign of maturity nor tolerance.

Just like jumping from thread to thread the forum like tsetse fly doesn't show a sign of maturity.

Having no life outside Nairaland forum by sleeping and restlessness doesn't show signs of maturity.

The OP here is condemning TB Joshua

The OP didn't, rather the OP simply ask questions.

You're the one who jumped in to propagate your deceit and hypocrisy.

When your organisation has done worst than both Rev king and TB Joshua.

while i came to find out what exactly has this man done apart from the BBC story.

Lying liar as usual.

Your post is still there which totally negate this your statement.

You always say people shouldn't judge but here you are living(leaving) the OP and targeting me even when i'm not judging the dead man!

Well, I'm not the person who says people should not judge but scripture.

Likewise, I didn't say you are judging anybody, did I?

I just said you should stop being hypocrite, because you rush to make a post to show TB Joshua is not a Christian based on that documentary, when not only do Watchtower have been accused of the same thing but convicted under the law for such atrocities.

Well, we all know how you defend and absorb your organisation about the same atrocities here.

So jumping on TB Joshua case to propagate your lie while neglecting the case of your own organisation is what God against.

Remove the log of wood in your own eyes first.

achorladey:
The guy don dey see shege as an elder in that religious organization that is removing that boastful and bragging attitude. He don dey see things that will make him open his mouth waaaa and wonder is this really the better performing performance group he boast about on nairaland

You got him

MaxInDHouse:
People who are TRULY happy don't go up and down trailing others for chatting freely

Just as people who are TRULY happy don't jump from thread to thread claiming the same name they once say it's CURSED AND BASTARDIZED.

remember you came here to quote and insult me even though i tried to maintain peace you keep talking about the past.

Show me where I insulted you FIRST.

Your past will continue to hunt you.

You can't eat your cake and also have it.

Unless you apologize.

So happy people don't dwell on the past says Jesus of Nazareth! Matthew 5:23-24 compare to Ephesians 4:26

So you're not happy too because you dwell on people's past.

Happy people don't keep injury of the past most especially when you can't even recognize the one you're accusing!

You want your past to be forgiven, you tender apology.

You can't keep repeating your mistakes everytime and suddenly wake up and call it PAST.

EVEN GOD WILL JUDGE PEOPLE base on their past.

MaxInDHouse:
Good!
So our understanding differs

So you just knew that our understanding differs of all your years on Nairaland.

so let each one keep his own and continue as happy fellow Nairalanders!

Of course, each one has kept theirs since and be happy fellow Nairalander. Well, maybe you're not happy thou

achorladey:
His past lies and manipulations that is chasing him his what he is running away from.

He knows this but he forgot that we keep receipts for him

Lonestar124:
The thing is there is my container of goods am expecting from turkey for all for almost seven months, it is has arrived in the country I based, until yesterday, my sister instruct me to call one of her family pastor to pray for me.

I was little redundant, but I later called him, he told me the goods will arrived on Tuesday next week..

He chastised me to be giving my tithes, which I don't do, me I don't believe in all these things as an atheist, but am beginning to change my mind the way I understand God.

Can you believe my agent called me this morning that the goods has just arrived Liberia my Based..

This is a true life story, I can not call this miracle a coincidence as I usually do ..am still surprised it happens the way the man of God proclaim it.. there is spiritual power my people.

Tomorrow I will be giving this testimony in any church in location...our God is Merciful indeed.

Never doubt what God can do with his faithful servants.. enjoy your day my fellow Nairalanders.

Well God still performances miracles and those who truly believe in Him can experience it.

But never make mistake of BELIEVING IN YOUR FELLOW HUMAN because as a believer we are to only BELIEVE IN JESUS CHRIST.

MaxInDHouse:
Of course Jesus is the only begotten Son of God through whom we must be saved that's why we must strictly adhere to his orders if we truly believe (trust) in him.

Jesus is the Way, the Truth and the Life no ONE comes the Father except through Him.

Not THROUGH Disciples or Watchtower.

Scriptural FACT.

This is what i quoted:

"I will give you the keys of the Kingdom of the heavens, and whatever you may bind on earth will already be bound in the heavens, and whatever you may loosen on earth will already be loosened in the heavens." Matthew 16:19

So after Jesus gave the KEYS of the Kingdom to his first GROUP whoever fails to acknowledge them and work according to their instructions is unknown to Jesus! Matthew 25:34-46

Which means the KEY HAS BEEN GIVEN already.

So, which GROUP of Jesus Christ RUSSELL BELONGS to before he started his own?

That's why there's contradictions here and there because many failed to realize Jesus has a GROUP teaching interested ones how to work for Christ! Matthew 28:19-20

Well, Jesus didn't have a GROUP that has been established.

I always tell you, Watchtower is also part of the contradictions.

MaxInDHouse:
So they were a GROUP of twelve Jews!

This is the reason you're poor in understanding.

Read my post again.

Well that's before he finally handed over the oversight to his first GROUP but after his ascension anyone doing anything without the authority from the GROUP is no longer practicing Christianity!
That's what he promised the twelve in the Bible book of Matthew 16:18-19 and all faithful Jews in the first century complied with that directive saying they must all take instruction on how to do the WORK from the GROUP! Act 2:42

Jesus is the Way, the Truth and the Life l.

Not the disciples.

The reaosn why you always afraid of quoting scripture is because you know it's against you.

Courz:
Unfortunately it won't dawn on him that Christians don't need an Intermediary. He will come and disagree with all the Bible verses. And he is the same person that quoted the verses by himself o.

That is the problem with them.

They always try to twist everything in favour of Watchtower but the more they do the more they keep exposing themselves.

Look at this part of his statement "Jesus preached on the mountain and thousands were listening to him so the man is one of those who has heard Jesus that's why he could go about practicing what Jesus taught..."

Now, we can ask, if Jesus actually wants people to be saved under ONE GROUP won't Jesus taught that instead of allowing individual to depart to practice what He taught?

Also, THOUSANDS hear Jesus message and departed without FOLLOWING Jesus group. Is it JWs who will now enforce this ONE GROUP when Jesus could have done it BY HIMSELF?

Well his loyalty is to Watchtower and not Jesus Christ, so it will be very difficult for him to accept this simple fact.

MaxInDHouse:
Please try to be sincere not just arguing with anger for it's pointless.

I've told several times, always look into the mirror anytime you think you want to advise.

Here is where Jesus COMMISSIONED the twelve as a GROUP:

These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not. Matthew 10:5

I want to believe that you know what a group means!

He didn't commission them AS A GROUP but just HIS DISCIPLES.

Remove that delusion of Watchtower GROUP in your head.

Even if this disciples were seen as GROUP the message of Jesus is not about THEM but to HIM.

"If anyone gives you(GROUP) even a cup of water because you belong to the Messiah, I tell you the truth, that person will surely be rewarded." Mark 9:41

Jesus preached on the mountain and thousands were listening to him so the man is one of those who has heard Jesus that's why he could go about practicing what Jesus taught but because he wasn't part of the twelve that Jesus first commissioned to do the work they felt he shouldn't be doing their work!

Waooooo I love this.

So it's not a must to be with the Apostles before you can become part of Christ.

What is needed is to LISTEN TO WHAT CHRIST SAYS AND PUT IT INTO PRACTICE.

You don't need any intermediary or organisation.

Thank God will all have Bible and know what Jesus teaches and commanded.

You just nailed your own point to the coffin.

Bravo...

I know he'll still come and confused himself more

Well, the point is already established and screenshot

MaxInDHouse:
Matthew 10 is where Jesus commissioned the WORK for his group after preaching and teaching on the mountain that's why the first twelve felt anyone who is not a member of the twelve shouldn't be doing what Jesus only assigned to the twelve!

So, why can't you quote or cite the Matt 10 but you cited John 17 and 1 Corin 1 that have nothing to do it?

Can't you see that you're the real deceitful person?

Even at that Jesus never COMMISSION ANY GROUP in Matt 10

Please where is the lie?

Because afterwards Jesus later sent 70 disciples out to do the same thing this time around the twelve now realized that the work is great and they needed more hands to work with their GROUP! Luke 10:2

The lie was "the person was ONE OF THEM BUT THEY DON'T KNOW."

Lying liar JWs.

Courz:
Exactly what I said. No JW can boast of being close to Jesus. No one. All they know is Jehovah's organisation, Jehovah's organisation, Jehovah, Jehovah, Jehovah. They love to mention that they follow 1st century Christians but the 1st century Christians were strong followers of Jesus.

But I have to say that I give Mad MaxinDhouse kudos for mentioning Bible verses that exposed his Cult. The word of God is powerful. Who knew that by showing him the verses and Acts 4 Vs 11 and 12, he would take a U turn and deny all what he has been saying in this forum. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Yes! That's why those gods in Warwick restricted them from eating Christ body and drinking Christ blood and Jesus said anyone who failed to do so is not part of Him.


John 6:53 - Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.

MaxInDHouse:
If he did not commission a group then why are they to work as ONE {John 17:22} having the same line of thought? 1Corinthians 1:10; Ephesians 4:3

Jesus never commissioned ANY GROUP.

WORK DIDN'T APPEAR IN NY scripture you cited.

"“I have given them the glory you gave me, so they may be one as we are one." John 17:22

"I appeal to you, dear brothers and sisters, by the authority of our Lord Jesus Christ, to live in harmony with each other. Let there be no divisions in the church. Rather, be of one mind, united in thought and purpose." 1 Corin 1:10

Scripture is clear on how to be saved.

Get rid of that delusion GROUP infused in your dull brain by Watchtower to make them SUPERIOR.

The man performing signs in Jesus name is one of them but not one of the twelve apostles because the Apostles thought the power to perform miracles is only limited to their group whereas if any Jews should be a disciple of Christ he can perform miracles in Jesus name that's why Jesus told them not to discourage a disciple simply because they don't know his face he is on the same page with them as he will not speak anything contrary to what they are also preaching!

Lying liar!

The funny thing is how you'll still be claiming to be the one doing what Jesus taught when Jesus never taught people to be lying.

Courz:
Why is it hard for a JW to admit that Jesus is the Way The Truth and The Life? Is that not telling that they are Antichrist?

because they are not connected to Him, that's why they only defend Watchtower.

At least followers of TB Joshua have said their loyalty is to TB Joshua just as an average JWs will claim also.

When every Christian loyalty should be to Jesus Christ and nothing else.

MaxInDHouse:
Good!
I love this!
So don't call this past it's what we need to discuss in order for you to know my stand as you feel it's wrong.

I should don't call which one PAST?

Jesus commissioned a group and hand over the work he started in the first century to them {Matthew 28:19-20; Act 1:8} he also went on to say that there will be many religious leaders gathering people but they won't teach what their followers need to get saved! Matthew 7:15-20

Jesus didn't commission a GROUP but HIS DISCIPLES.

The same Disciples came to tell Jesus someone they saw doing the very Jesus told them to do but wasn't following Jesus. What was Jesus reply to them when they told Jesus they should stop him?

Well you know the answer.

So i did my own personal research and found out that only the Watchtower are practicing what Jesus taught

Well, your personal research shows you're biased.

That's not the point anyway, the scripture says "JESUS IS THE WAY, THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE..."

We don't need anybody outside Jesus for salvation.

which means if you want to say i'm wrong then you need to present that group that is practicing what Jesus taught since he has warned us all about false religious leaders.

This line of delusion infused in your dull brain as THERE MUST BE A GROUP, it's what is making you not to see the real truth.

Among JWs there are MANY FALSE TEACHERS as well.

Your inability to do so makes me see you as one living in deceit!

Says a typical liar from the pit of Hell.

MaxInDHouse:
One thing that will never change is the fact that if you're not a member of Watchtower you and i aren't worshiping the same God.

Nobody argue this with you but fact is you don't need to be a Watchtower member before you're SAVED according to Jesus Christ in John 14:6 because Jesus is the Way, the Truth and the Life.

But as for whatever issues we had in the past has been erased for fresh things to come in so if you're still dwelling in the past then i'm sorry for you!

You can keep committing blunders and call it the past, your past will always hunt you.

Even Jesus will judge people based on their PAST.

achorladey:
Na so his mode of operation be. After you catch on top lies. Na to deny and save his lying and manipulated brains

His religious organization that have repeatedly stated that anybody outside of their religious organization and no matter how people read the bible, they cannot get on to the road leading to life except they identify with their +/- 150 years old religious organization. They believe they are the only ones teaching the truth among the over 41,000 different religions . Yet he is denying it

JWs: If you're not a JWs you'll be destroyed at Armageddon.

Me: But the scripture says "Jesus is the way, the truth and the Life, no one comes to the Father except through Him." so, I don't need to be a JWs before being saved.

JWs: Eh....

Me: No Eh... Here, that's the scripture, do you agree?

JWs: Yes but...

Me: Where did the BUT comes from again?

JWs: silent

MaxInDHouse:
I don't get it.
Is it that TB Joshua is not a man of God?
or
Christians don't commit such atrocities?
or
His church should be closed?

Because one thing is certain:
99.9999 of all those complaining don't even know what Christianity stands for!

The remaining 0.0001 that is complaining and know what Christianity is, who are they?