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MaxInDHouse:
Therefore, do not let anyone judge you about what you eat and drink or about the observance of a festival or of the new moon or of a sabbath! Colossians 2:16
We are no longer under the Old Covenant so Sabbath is OBSOLETE! Romans 10:4

But it's the same Old Convenat your organization is using to forbid people from taking Blood.

MaxInDHouse:
I've done the needy you're wrong the man is a servant of Jesus for obeying Jesus' commands!

Thank Jehovah he is a SERVANT of Jesus

Las Las he is SERVING Jesus just as Daniel says

MaxInDHouse:
When you accuse anyone wrongly on my thread i'll correct your wrong impression!

Smile....

Wasn't on this same thread you're avoiding my posts in a pretence of looking for apology and evidence Mr Ponzi scheme promoter?

haddeylium:
Dont even stress youself. Trinity doctrine is dead on arrival Trinitarian dogma is not found in the Scriptures and nowhere is the concepts that are embodied in that dogma implied

Says the ignorance who doesn't know Trinity has been around before 5th century

The “trinity” doctrine was not taught and accepted until well into the 5th Century after Jesus and the apostles.

50 AD The Huleatt Manuscript
74AD The Letter of Barnabas
80AD Herman
140AD Aristides
150AD Justin Martyr
150AD Polycarp of Smyrna
160AD Mathetes
170AD Tatian the Syrian
177AD Athenagoras
177AD Melito of Sardis
180AD Theophilus of Antioch
180AD Ireneaus
190AD Clement of Alexandria

To list few who taught and wrote about early Christians belief in Trinity.

it's a common knowledge that the concept of it was developed by CONSTANTINE (a pagan) He established the creed of the Council of Nicaea as the standard for his realm and convened the Council of Constantinople in 381 C.E. to clarify the formula of TRINITY. He did all that to settle the disputes self acclaimed christians were having and stabilized his empires.

The same lie your organization propagated in their publication "Should you believe in Trinity?" before it was taken down because of people's reaction.

I thought since your light is brighter than them you should know better but alas you people still stuck in the same old light

Hope you know that your fight for trinity is in the glory of Emperor Constantine

History will cure your ignorance when you know the teaching of Trinity predated Constantine

Just as The book Crucifixion—The Archaeological Evidence: By Vassilios Tzaferis exposes the lie of your organization that Jesus died on a STAKE when in history neither Jews nor Roman who crucified Jesus ever used pole to crucify anyone.

haddeylium:
Is Angel Michael a daughter of God?
Any being created by God is God's Son as a virtue of being created

So this "( Jehovah's witnesses only believe God's inspired word in the Bible)" is a lie after all that's Tonderful

MaxInDHouse:
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Whoever took his preaching and teaching tools after studying the Bible and start spending his/her time with fellow believers who often goes in pairs to visit neighbours in their homes {Luke 10:1} for the purpose of God's Kingdom {Luke 10:9} is already a servant of Jesus because nobody from Genesis to Revelation issued that order apart from Jesus of Nazareth! Matthew 28:18-20
That's why Jesus said about all those obeying this order:

"But you will receive power when the holy spirit comes upon you, and you will be witnesses of me in Jerusalem, in all Ju·deʹa and Sa·marʹi·a, and to the most distant part of the earth" Act 1:8

So all you need to do is ask Janosky if he's been acting in accordance with this commad! [/s]

The hypocrite couldn't wait for his apology and evidence of being Ponzi scheme promoter today

haddeylium:
Interesting
But in contrast, Jehovah's witnesses only believe God's inspired word in the Bible

Really

Let's see what the Gospel says:
John 20:31 — but these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that believing you may have life in His name.
Luke 22:70-71 — Then they all said, “Are You then the Son of God?” So He said to them, “You rightly say that I am.”

Besides, Mark says it at the outset of his gospel (1:1).
The angel told Mary her child would be the Son of God (Luke 1:35).
John the Baptist said the same thing (John 1:34).
Nathanael said it (John 1:49).
Martha believed it (John 11:27).
Jesus claimed that He said so (John 10:36).
The Gospel of John was written to convince the reader that Jesus was the Son of God (John 20:31).

Yet after you see all these people saying Jesus is the son of God, you still believe Jesus to be Angel Michael

Yet this " Jehovah's witnesses only believe God's inspired word in the Bible"

But knowmore56 of NAIRALAND says Jesus is not God's Son
Enjoying this

Did you see where he emphasize on "A SON" and not just SON?

But haddeylium says Jesus is Angel Michael
I love this

Janosky:
Emusan LIENUS weak attempt to save face.


Here is the screenshot "Trinitarians believe there is Distinction between their 3 Gods."

Smile.....3 Gods can you see your empty life outside

When you're OK strengthen your brothers

Janosky:
Job 38:1-7 , why do you argue against JEHOVAH's statement?

Numbers 23:19 & Hebrews 4:12 Are you more reliable than JEHOVAH?

Why do you disobey Jehovah when he says you should serve even Jesus?

Janosky:
Revelation 3:12,Will LIENUS Bishop serve and worship the only God worshipped by Jesus Christ?
That is the million dollar question for Bishop LIENUS

The million dollar question for the worshipper of 8 men in Brooklyn.

Are you serving the one Jehovah said people all nations will serve EVEN HIM?

Janosky:
Matthew 4:10 & Revelation 3:12 you have been very disloyal to Jesus Christ.

Are you loyal to the command of Jehovah who says PEOPLE AND ALL NATIONS will serve Jesus Christ?

Are you and other JWs serving Jesus Christ today, after all to serve is different from worship

Janosky:
Emusan LIENUS, DON'T agree with Bishop his fellow Trinitarian devotee.
Emusan LIENUS is confused too.
"DISTINCTION between their 3 Gods

Lol....the confused JWs is still running around like headless chicken

Bishopkingsley:
Maybe JW are not people lol

They may be robot lol

You can see how he was trying to claim serve is different from worship and at the same time proof that Revelation 22:3 wasn't applied to Jesus simply because both the one on the throne and the Lamb are said to be SERVED by all creation which is the same tone with Daniel 7:14.

The most ridiculous part is when the 3 Hebrew men said "not to SERVE the gods nor worship the golden image" But he can still see that as different things.

That's why he can't answer the question reason JWs don't serve Jesus since to serve isn't to worship

Janosky:
Matthew 20:28
For even the Son of Man came not to be served but to serve others and to give his life as a ransom for many.”

Continue DECEIVING yourself, Mr LIENUS.

Are you serving Jesus Christ as Daniel says after all to serve isn't to worship or Daniel lied that people and ALL NATIONS will SERVE HIM?

Janosky:
Revelation 3:5,12, John 20:17,receive SENSE

I know you have no sense

You see the JaNosense delusions.

So Revelation 22:3 is for Jehovah

Janosky:
Dan 3:12 KJV - 12 There are certain Jews whom thou hast set over the affairs of the province of Babylon, Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego; these men, O king, have not regarded thee: they serve not thy gods, nor worship the golden image which thou hast set up"

@ Daniel 7:14, 3:12 (KJV) Serve = reverence.
Not worship.
Can you now see how their Trinitarian mentors TWISTED Daniel 7:14 and Daniel 3:12 KJV?
Daniel 3:12 their own Bible proven the difference/dichotomy between Serve & worship.
@ Daniel 7:14, they changed serve to worship.
LIARS exposes their Triune deities sheeples.

Ignorance won't kill you.

If serve isn't worshipped, why didn't the 3 Hebrew men not SERVE the gods

So why didn't you SERVE JESUS CHRIST if to serve and worship aren't the same

That means I can serve Jesus as Daniel says beautiful.

Janosky:
Dan 3:12 KJV - 12 There are certain Jews whom thou hast set over the affairs of the province of Babylon, Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego; these men, O king, have not regarded thee: they serve not thy gods, nor worship the golden image which thou hast set up"

Emusan LIENUS doing what he knows best.
Daniel 3:12,His KJV proven there is dichotomy between serve & worship.

The Screenshots of Daniel 7:14 and younger man's reverence for the elders , further proven his DUBIOUS assertion.
Hebrew lexicon 6399, serve=reverence

Now this is getting interesting! To serve is different from worship

So why are you people denying Revelation 22:3 as being applied to the Lamb but Jehovah

Wahala for JaNosense the 8 men worshipper

Bishopkingsley:
Because you did not listen when we explain to you who Jesus is

Listen again Jesus is both God Almighty and man

So devil tempted the man Jesus

You're even going too far.

In that chapter Jesus said "...and you shall serve ONLY him(God)"

When I asked his brother yesterday who is the word "shall serve him" applied to in that Revelation 22 when @archoladey quoted it, he went into ghost mode because he knows the same Daniel 7:14 he was using says "And to him there were given rulership+ and dignity+ and kingdom,*+ that the peoples, national groups and languages should all serve even him. His rulership is an indefinitely lasting rulership that will not pass away, and his kingdom one that will not be brought to ruin. NWT

You can see how confused they are.

Janosky:
Mr LIENUS as usual.
Mr Tsaferis NEVER said that, you no get conscience LYING on this forum

Lol....so what did Mr Tsaferi say?

1 Corinthians 8:16, there is only one CREATOR.
Ephesians 4:6, God the Father of all.

Proven by 1 Corinthians 8:6, "other" @ Colossians 1:16 enhances understanding.

You see what I'm saying, justification for the fraudulent inclusion

Do you agree Jesus create his Father?

Oponu when you should be the one to answer that question.

@ Colossians 1:16 , "other" dey pain you but adding "hellfire" to Mark 9:43 instead of Gehenna no dey pain you, Hypocrite

It didn't pain me but shows you people hypocrisy.

You can call other translations fraud for doing the same thing your demonic organization did. Yet you hide your shameless face in mud

Janosky:
Matthew 4:7, from the mouth of Jesus:
" God can NEVER be tempted".


Who did Satan tempt?
Polytheist DECEIVING himself.

Smile....jumping from pillar to post.

If you check that verse very well Jesus says ONLY GOD SHOULD BE SERVED but in Daniel's vision the one who looks like the son of man said to be SERVED ;DAND Wahala for the 8 men worshippers

Janosky:
1 Corinthians 8:6 the Father his God created ALL things.
Jesus is his Father's Creative agency , proven
"Through him" Greek dia antou, @ 1 Corinthians 8:6 & Colossians 1:16.

Colossians 1:16, is Jesus the Father?
Did Jesus create his Father?
Awitness41, come over here and teach Emusan LIENUS.

As usual the JaNosense is at it again.

The question is, does the word OTHER appear in the original manuscript?

You ran away when Tsaferi article exposed your lying doctrine that Jesus died on the stake. Now only to resurface here talking rubbish.

Bishopkingsley:
No

That is not a barrister remember JW don't go to school

They don't have lawyers or doctors in their mist

They only have people who will build things for them

Since they don't believe Jesus is preparing anew earth for us

Smile.....that useless law wasn't for Nigeria JWs because they know hunger will finish them

Thou I'm just using his moniker that way!

Barristter07:
New Heart English Bible " by A Son "

You know why your point is pure dust ? " His" does not appear in that text. All that is there is son

Explaining that Greek word, Strong's says


" hyiós – properly, a son (by birth or adoption);"

Now he has jumped to another translation but when this translation goes against him in another place, he will enter ghost mode

New Heart English Bible is more accurate than your perverted NWT now

Does the word OTHER appear in Col 1:16-18 text?

You hypocrite can call other translations out for inserting word not found in manuscript but will never call your demonic organization out when does the same thing.

Barristter07:
Whose disposal would the angels be on Earth ? If he can control them, that's power to command. ?

Lying liar! Does that mean to command them from heaven?

Anyway, Barristters are known for lying profession

Thankfully, Gave up everything never appear in the texts. You lied.

Just as CREATING ALL OTHER THINGS never appeared in the texts

Barristter07:
If the angels were sent to earth , Who will control them ?

Do you think I cannot call on my Father, and he will at once put at my disposal more than twelve legions of angels?

One thing is to lie another thing is to acknowledge your lies when you're caught.

Your claimed was Do you know he Said he can command angels to rescue him at the night of his trial?"

It's obvious He didn't claim to have power to do that.

You're caught on this lie openly.

The same way he wasn't called Emmanuel , doesn't mean that's not his name .

Point remains what he emptied was his appearance in the likeness of God.

Philippians is all about Appearance, that is why taking the form of servant doesn't mean taking the inherent features of his sinful brothers.

At least there's evidence that HE GAVE UP EVERYTHING including His name MICHAEL

achorladey:
This verse you cite ehn na like this dem dey see am


1. Personification does not prove personality for HOLY SPIRIT

2. Personification does prove personality for Jesus.

Ask them where I got that from. If you understand this, shikena.

You got it so well.

Barristter07:
Do you know he Said he can command angels to rescue him at the night of his trial ? He was still in control

Liar! He said He can ask His Father.

Which means, he wasn't on earth with such power.

What he set aside was his appearance in the likeness of God. That Philippians is clear enough

What of the name MICHAEL?

Was he also Michael on earth

[s]And as far as humans are concerned, he had no authority over them before coming to earth - Daniel 7:14[/s]

Thrash...

Barristter07:
He has Nothing of authority before coming to earth. Your point is baseless. What he set aside was himself existing in the appearance of God. You can't gave up what you don't have in the first place

He set aside EVERYTHING.

Including his name as Micheal or was he also Michael on earth?

But he gave up his name, or Michael wasn't part of what he has again

Barristter07:
Nothing like this existed in the manuscript.

But when your translation added the word "OTHER" it existed in the manuscript bah

See denial of CEV now

He emptied himself, when he took the form of a servant. The previous verse already mentioned what he emptied. His Appearance/form of God.

He gave up EVERYTHING or set aside, that is the point of that verse.

Barristter07:
Nothing BY taking another form ?

It's right there. It was reffering to change of appearance. Christ has no authority before coming to earth!

He can't be given what he already possess, to shred your lies about it's his function as Messiah not who he is.

CEV: Instead he gave up everything and became a slave, when he became like one of us.

Barristter07:
For a fact that body of Jesus cannot die or get sick unless forcefully killed which will lead to death due to physical laws, If untouched , no aging, no death, there is no sin in him , so he can't die by aging


he is definitely not in the same league with his brother's as far as inherent nature and characteristic is concerned. He won't age.

He was made in the form of a servant , like his brother's in every way by virtue of appearance not inherent nature/characteristics.

This apply to existing in the Form of God.

Philippians is all about Appearance! That's the point.

You haven't answered my questions!

Barristter07:
Set what aside ?

This is Philippians

"rather, he made himself nothing
by taking the very nature of a servant "

This is mentioning his change of appearance and form. Setting aside the form that has the likeness of God. .

It's his form he set aside, this text said nothing about him having any authority. You already confess that authority doesn't exist when he was in heaven, it's a prophecy. And you can't give someone what they already possess.

Lying liar, He made HIMSELF NOTHING!

Do you understand that?

To take the form of servant means he is now ready to live as someone under control.

Oponu...