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Barristter07:
Fetch it and bring it here. You fraudster, show me where I said command from heaven?

Lying liar, you can do that.

Your lying mouth is always exposed.

Image OF the invisible God - Col 1:15

" OF " means belonging to

Jesus exist in someone else image . He is called son for a reason. And nobody is his own Son. Cos they never existed in his image

Romans 8:29,30 again

" because those whom he gave his first recognition he also foreordained to be patterned after the image of his Son, so that he might be the firstborn among many brothers. 30 Moreover, those whom he foreordained are the ones he also called; and those whom he called are the ones he also declared to be righteous. Finally those whom he declared righteous are the ones he also glorified. "

All humans are called and declared righteous since they all exist in Jesus image ?

You have serious thinking to do .

Let "US" create man in "OUR" image.

Was Jesus among that US & OUR? lying liar JWs like his father the devil

Someone " LIKE " a son of man

It didn't say a son of man. It says " Like" . Ezekiel saw something similar in Ezekiel 1:26 , only an idiot would say that means God is human.

Not human. The person is Divine. It's even impossible for an human to see God himself and remain alive. The point is clear , even in his Divine nature , Jesus doesn't have rulership or authority over any man until he came to earth and was given authority.

This is from the translation you quoted

"and THEY brought him up CLOSE before that One..."

Here are my questions again!

So who are the "THEY" that brought Jesus CLOSE to Jehovah?

Isn't Jesus the ONLY ONE WITH THE FATHER?

Why must Jesus be brought to Jehovah when is the very One who close to Jehovah most?

Wahala for the brainwashed JWs.

Barristter07:
So u can't provide command from heaven ?

Your lying post is there and it's already exposed your lying mouth.

Image not Images. Showing it still belong to one person.

This is so ridiculous....

So Jehovah isn't talking to HIS SON in that verse any more

If not because you're a dubious person, let "US" make man in "OUR" image should tell you how two persons can be viewed as ONE.

"He is the image of the invisible God " Col 1:15

Jesus exist in his creators image, just as we.

Nobody exist in Jesus image - Romans 8:29 is still there for you.

Jesus is THE VERY IMAGE man was created in, how many times will I knocked that into your empty skull?

Let US make man in OUR image.

Daniel 7:13,14.
“I kept watching in the visions of the night, and look! with the clouds of the heavens, someone like a son of man+ was coming; and he gained access to the Ancient of Days,+

Clearly not human nature. The person here is not human . It's clear who is ignorant now, even in his Divine nature, he needed to be given authority. Worse is it's a future one. Not something he always had

The reason why I do say you're ignorant and lack scriptural understanding is what you just posted.

Focus on that @color

If it's Divine nature, why must He gain ACCESS TO THE ANCIENT OF DAYS? Isn't Jesus the ONLY ONE WITH THE FATHER?

The literal translation is "...and unto the Ancient of Days he hath come, and before Him THEY have brought him near.

Reason why my translations put it this way:
CEV: "...and he was presented to the Eternal God."
DRA: "...and they presented him before him."
ERV: "...He came to the Ancient of Days, and he was brought before him."
KJV: "...and they brought him near before him."

I can go on and on.

Just as you said below but because of your lack of scriptural understanding and lying mouth, you couldn't read that in the text.

and they brought him up close before that One. 14 And to him there were GIVEN rulership, honor,+ and a kingdom, that the peoples, nations, and language groups should all serve him. His rulership is an everlasting rulership that will not pass away, "

You don't give someone who already have authority rulership . The point still stands

Your lying mouth will be shut down forever now!

So who are the "THEY" that brought Jesus to Jehovah?

When I say you watchtower false doctrines have beclouded your reasoning faculty you'll think is a joke.

Janosky:
I designed a motor car and built the components and I employed you,my son, to assemble it.

4 questions for Emusan:
Mr LIENUS who made the motor car?
Mr LIENUS who owns the motor car?

Hebrews 1:2
God made what?
Through whom?

Another oponu question.

So in essence, Jehovah created many things and not ONLY Jesus

One can see how sense is so far away from you.

Janosky:
Hebrews 1:2 & 1 Corinthians 1:24
= (Equal to)
Proverbs 8:22-30, his son, Jesus Christ is the Wisdom/ skilled Craftsman created by Yahweh, working for his Father, Yahweh.

Emusan LIENUS no get conscience

Wahala for the 8 men worshipper

No wonder you cancelled that Proverbs 8.

For more severe pain for the lying liar JWs like his father the devil here it is again: Proverbs 8:14-16 "Counsel and sound judgment are mine; I have insight, I have power. 15 By me kings reign and rulers issue decrees that are just; 16 by me princes govern, and nobles—all who rule on earth.

Now the JaNosense is more confused because he hasn't read his perverted NWT to that place.

You'll never receive sense JaNosense.

God Yahweh created Jesus the Wisdom/skilled Craftsman as the first of his works "before the world began" - Proverbs 8:22-24.

And the same wisdom is said to be doing what ONLY YAHWEH DOES "Counsel and sound judgment are mine; I have insight, I have power. 15 By me kings reign and rulers issue decrees that are just; 16 by me princes govern, and nobles—all who rule on earth.

#1 & #2
Sifia pains of a confused Trinitarian LIENUS.
#1 & #2 is the evidence of Emusan's failed attempt to defend to Trinity GIBBERISH

Yahweh created Jesus the Wisdom skilled Craftsman & ALL other things through Jesus Christ/Wisdom/Skilled Craftsman
.

Proverbs 8:14-16,22, is "Everything I have (Life, Power & Authority) is a gift from my Father" @John17:7 & Matthew 28:18

Just see how senseless this post is just so show the deluded mind behind it.

You can't even construct a very straight simple statement.

Let me just pin point the very point have been emphasized on in your own post at the red color

It's just so funny how you keep confusing yourself, all because you just want to keep defending lies.

IMAliyu:
That would be beyond me to know, but I'd assume a few times in the case of a car depending on the usage.

A computer not so much, I had a 7 year old hp laptop that died last year, the PCB was fried due to years of being a desktop and overheating from a clogged fan. Not once did it break before then.
The cause of degradation in computer circuits are usually related to power (being turned on and off, or a surge), and temperature (overheating). If these are controlled then I don't see why it wouldn't last up to 40 years.


Yeah, I do, and you know there are durable materials and alloys with high resistance to wear and tear?

What other moving parts are on the voyager, after the gyro?

Don't you think the engineers knew this when designing it?
Since it can't receive any maintenance, it would had been designed with that in mind. It will continue operating until it simply breaks and stops functioning.


The fans in my family house have been there since the year 2001, they've running this long without breaking, so far only a few control switches have been replaced.

So is it that difficult to imagine, something could be engineered to last for longer?

At the end, not unless we know the design specs and the specific tech used on Voyager, we can only be going back and forth on what is possible or not.

Now let me just elaborate on these two weak points of yours.

It will continue operating until it simply breaks and stops functioning.

Yet you're trying to claim they can build a machine that isn't subject to breakdown.

The reason why it will break and stop is because many COMPONENTS INSIDE ARE GOING THROUGH WEAR AND TEAR. if not it will never break down for life if those components can still be as they were manufactured.

At the end, not unless we know the design specs and the specific tech used on Voyager, we can only be going back and forth on what is possible or not.

But you are here speaking with authority as if you're there when the machine was being designed.

But everyone can see that no machine with moveable parts and electronics circuitry can last more than 40years without a proper maintenance in its lifetime.

Not to even talk about the electronics components they use in those days that generated huge amount of HEAT.

Janosky:
Mr LIENUS doing his beat.

1 Corinthians 15:45 New Living Translation by your Trinitarian mentors and Triune devotees.

Mr LIENUS wedded to FALSE claims.

The lying liar like his father the Devil despite bombarding Google with many questions on whether Roman has ever killed anyone on pole or stake and find no response, he went into ghost mode since then

Even from his Misinterpreted translation, he still couldn't counter that Jesus was killed by the Jews and not by the Roman

IMAliyu:
I don't know about being functional, but they'd pretty much be obsolete and out of use by now.

The same thing applicable to voyager 1

But you could probably find functioning cars and computers made from 1970s.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtcrv2pfnsE

Now this is becoming interesting.

Can you tell us how many TIMES those cars and comouters have entered REPAIR WORKSHOPS?

And don't forget that most modern gadgets are made for "planned obsolescence" to keep companies rich.
Here is a real conspiracy the light bulb industry could had made light bulbs that would last you decades without needing to be replaced, but decided to limit the life span of bulbs to keep them in business.
So here is an example of something made in 1901 that's still functional today.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centennial_Light

Not only for business, talking about machine with moveable parts where FRICTION OCCURS this is what leads to wear and tear.

Do you even understand physics of Friction?

Well, yes and no.
Those kind of parts would be made to last a long time without needing maintenance, but it will eventually break down because all things break eventually.

you can see how you respond is incoherent.

At the end it will still NEED MAINTENANCE.
So who is carrying out MAINTENANCE ON VOYAGER 1 which is more than 40years now?

Like how often do you check, or change the motor of your ceiling fan?

Can you show us a ceiling fan that has been working for over 40years nonstop? Yet within a period of 8years my family has used more than 1 ceiling fan in our sitting room because it has broken down.

Barristter07:
Provide where I said he would command them from heaven? You liar

Lying liar JWs like his father the Devil.

Keep changing mouth.

A creator in whose image nobody exists . Do you think at all ?

If not that your reasoning faculty has been left in your hall, at least you will know your organization also believe Jesus is part of "OUR IMAGE" in Gen 1

Daniel 7:14 Jesus doesn't have any of those authority before coming to earth. So much for Trinity, Busted! ...

When the ignoramus didn't know it was about His human nature and not His Eternal Being.

Lastly, the same Daniel 7:14 says you and your father the devil will SERVE Jesus forever.

Janosky:
Sifia pains of a LIENUS
Emusan LIENUS pretends as if verse 30 is not in his Bible

Proverbs 8:30
I was a skilled craftsman beside Him. I was His delight every day, always rejoicing before Him.

3 Questions for Emusan:
#1.
Verse 30, did 'Craftsman' another living being, rejoice with JEHOVAH?

Who is the skilled Craftsman working beside Jehovah @ verses 26-30?

In the screenshot Who is the skilled "Craftsman" created/Born by Lord Jehovah
@ verses 22-25?

Wahala for the this 8 men worshipper

The craftsman man is ETERNAL WISDOM of Yahweh

The skilled craftsman is eternal Wisdom of Yahweh

The skilled craftsman was brought forth by YAHWEH for the purpose of creation.

You sure say your brain dey where God put am?

You forgot you always leave your brain in your hall.

Your friend KNOWMORE56 asks "who is the "HE"?
I have responded, as proven by the screenshot.

Then the HE is the one who carried out the creations as those verses stated, not that another being.



Now that you agreed that the wisdom is another being different from Jehovah, then that Being must be God because according to the same Proverbs 8:14-16 "Counsel and sound judgment are mine; I have insight, I have power. 15 By me kings reign and rulers issue decrees that are just; 16 by me princes govern, and nobles—all who rule on earth.

You'll never receive sense JaNosense.

Emusan must reproduce the evidence for his claims ("which non of you could answer".
Bros , do the needful, let's see he's not LYING.
The ball is rolling in his court.

You've proven here that YAHWEH didn't use another creature to help Him rather YAHWEH ONLY created ALL THINGS BY HIMSELF as Proverbs 8:26-27 & Isaiah 44:24 clearly stated.

Severe pain for the lying liar JWs like his father the Devil the great JaNosense himself.

Janosky:
Why is Mr LIENUS worried about Greek & Hebrew the original languages of his Bible?
He loathes the truth in his Bible.

Proverbs 8:22-26
Yahweh created me, first-fruits of his fashioning, before the oldest of his works.

23 From everlasting, I was firmly set, from the beginning, before the earth came into being.

24 The deep was not, when I was born, nor were the springs with their abounding waters.

25 Before the mountains were settled, before the hills, I came to birth;
26 before he had made the earth, the countryside, and the first elements of the world."


Mr LIENUS wedded to FALSEHOOD.

At least all you've proven for us here is that YAHWEH first created Wisdom and continue to carry out the remaining CREATIONS by Himself Isaiah 44:24 not through another agent

Severe pain for the lying liar JWs like his father the Devil the great JaNosense

IMAliyu:
Not really, that was tech from the 1970s, a scientific calculator, or your phone has a more complex circuitry and computational capacity than Voyager.

I love that @underlined.

So does that mean the circuitry of voyager 1 isn't subject to the same electronics degradation?

How many gadget produced in 1970s that are still functioning today?

And yes, it was made to last, but it will eventually breakdown, or run out of power which is predicted to happen in 2025.

You didnt talk about the MAINTENANCE PART, does it not need to the maintained especially the moveable parts?

Jerryherd:
Many man made object defy maintenance culture, especially if technology used doesn't rely on wear and tear

So you really thought voyager 1 doesn't have such

Think of voyager as a man-made bottle with a letter inside put in a sea to continuesly float, without refueling

But it's not like a bottle, it's a real machine with moveable parts where friction can occur.

For example it has three-axis stabilization gyroscopes, and referencing instruments to keep the probe's radio antenna pointed toward Earth.

Not to even talk about the ELECTRONICS CIRCUITS inside.

Biodun556:
So pictures of our galaxy, universe and bubbles are fake

Not only them even the real picture of earth.

All the pictures you see are just Computer Generated Image (CGI)

Jerryherd:
Voyager 1 is our real hope of capturing our solar system capturing our galaxy is just not possible

If you believe voyager 1 is outside there, Kindly answer these questions

1. Has man made any object that defiles maintenance culture?

2. Who is carrying out maintenance on voyager 1 since launch?

Let's start from here!

MaxInDHouse:
With this your write-up now think about how true Christians do the work!
Jesus COMMADED his followers to go and make disciples, then TEACH them to continue keeping everything he said! Matthew 28:19-20
So can you confidently say this are the things a member of that Church (you said you people planted) supposed to do under so and so circumstances?

No they'll only be reading watchtower and awake publication.

Remember Jesus' intention is to building a strong bond between all his disciples throughout the earth {John 17:20-23} due to the same line of thought they are expected to have through the TEACHINGS {Romans 15:5-6; 1Corinthians 1:10; Ephesians 4:3} so that LOVE will bind them together due to the TEACHING! John 13:34-35

Don't worry the church planted by Jesus Christ the villagers will only be reading watchtower and awake.

I can boldly speak of any country, city, town or village on this planet that once there is a Congregation of JWs there a JW from any part of the world can visit such a place and any of our brothers in faith will welcome him/her hospitably due to what we've sown in the heart of those claiming JWs there! Mark 10:29-30 compare to Zephaniah 3:9
Can you also confidently say the same thing about your so called church?

I'm only interested in that @underlined.

So if there's no congregation of JWs there, what will be the fate of that JWs?

I was once stranded in Isua a LG in Ondo State 2006, I got there late and the Okada man just pointed a church premises for me because it's my first time in that town and I don't even know anybody there. So I approach the church the man incharge came out, after I explained myself, the man neither ask me if I'm a Christian or which denominations am I. He simply offers me accommodation and treated me nicely till the following day before I could continue my journey.

Guess what the church is an Anglican Church.

That means the man only follow the admonition of Apostle Paul in Heb 13:2 and most importantly Jesus own statement in Matt 5:46-47 If you love only those people who love you, will God reward you for that? Even tax collectors love their friends. If you greet only your friends, what’s so great about that? Don’t even unbelievers do that?

So the ONLY love among JWs is anti scripture that the Devil your father is using to continue caging you people.

If Jesus only DIED for his 12 disciples there's no proof of love in that, but Jesus died for even those who also crucified Him is the greatest love ever displayed.

KNOWMORE56:
6. 1 Corinthians 15: 47 "KJV:The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the LORD (JEHOVAH) from heaven."

If they're being truthful to themselves, that verse should have read "Jehovah" but alas they know the implication, so they won't try that.

You have to know when the writers are referring to His human nature...

This is exactly what I use to tell them.

The day they will understand when the scripture is talking about Jesus before He entered creation and after He became part of creation, is the day their delusions will be cured.

MaxInDHouse:
It's OK, i've heard you, from now let's see what exactly you've got upstairs about your God apart from looking for ways to argue with others.

If you've not seen what I got upstairs about my God all this while then, can you see the reason why you're so ignorant and confused?

Anyways, you can see that Emusan isn't a misinformed Christian that's why even some of your brothers I have had discussions with in the past taught I'm an ex-JWs and they tag me Apostate and even advice other to stop replying me when I haven't even stepped my foot in the kingdom hall environment not to talk of entering it.

I'll stop responding to you for now, go and talk, say something about your God!

You don't need to say it before you do and this is not the first time you'll say this on this forum.

Like I said, I've been saying something about my God which is the reason you're once happy that since I live in the north, your terrorist brothers will harm me.

Late 2019 before Covid19 started, we went to a typical village in Abuja for evangelism, and planted a church for Christ. This is a village that you will hardly see one person speaking English and no single church in that village until the one God planted not to talk of having access to internet.

I guess, if your demonic organization later find her way into that same village years later, you'll now be enjoying the benefits of this grate work God wrought through us and started claiming the people who first came aren't misinformed churchgoers

I can tell you some remote village where the true followers of Christ have conquered for Christ in the North. It's not about jumping from thread to thread or downloading few pictures on facebook group and you'll think you're making sense.

Lastly, your father the devil will always be a loser because it has nothing in Christ but just as Christ says, "If you abide in me, you will have fruits even MORE"

MaxInDHouse:
[s]The bolded in red is enough to tell the difference between true Christians and misinformed Churchgoers!
You are on a forum like this where people talk about their God and your own interest is not to say anything about your own God for months! Until you feel irritated about what others are saying then you joined purposely to start arguing with people who are interested in the words of their own God!

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm there's great difference between true Christians and misinformed Churchgoers! [/s]

Read my post again this time slowly without putting your hall cap on

MaxInDHouse:
At that time those who fear Jehovah spoke with one another, each one with his companion, and Jehovah kept paying attention and listening. And a book of remembrance was written before him for those fearing Jehovah and for those meditating on his name! Malachi 3:16

Still perambulating!

Emusan let your heart move you to speak with others about your God if truly you've got something good to share about your God or don't you have anything at all to share with others about your God?

If I'm not speaking with others about God, how will Russell and his pagan team will know about God before they turn away from Him?

Even reason why you have opportunity to convert from Islam to JWs and enjoying freedom that came with the sacrifices the true followers of Christ made over the years.

If not you'll still be stuck in your Islam by now

MaxInDHouse:
How many times do i have to remind you that it's "out of the abundance of the heart" {Luke 6:45} please Emusan go i have lots of good things to share just like my Master, Lord and King (Christ Jesus) unlike you who is empty. So you can't expect me to be dumb like you nah my God is not dumb that's why we're talking and talking about His glory! Psalms

See the argumentator claiming sharing!

OK oooo Mr sharer.

Now door to door has changed to jumping from thread to thread

Their idols are silver and gold, The work of human hands. A mouth they have, but they cannot speak; Eyes, but they cannot see; Ears they have, but they cannot hear; A nose, but they cannot smell; Hands they have, but they cannot feel; Feet, but they cannot walk; They make no sound with their throat. The people who make them will become just like them, As will all those who trust in them! Psalms 115:4-8

So had it been JWs aren't here even your so called 6,000 posts won't reach 100 because 99.9% of your posts is just to argue with JWs you're spiritually empty!

See the ignorant speaking.

I've created threads in science section, jokes section, family section, travel section to name but few and MANY of my thread even on religion section wasn't about JWs, the fact even clear more when you realize that I joined Nairaland because of the fun I do catch reading people's reply as guest which leads to my first five months not active in religion section and when I started visiting religion section it is me, ATHEISTS and Muslims not even JWs.

So much for the ignorance JWs who always want to drag people to the same level of his delusions.

Janosky:
Liar LIENUS
Proverbs 8:22-25, 1 Corinthians 1:24, Jesus the Wisdom was created before heaven & earth exists.

That means Jesus exists in eternity which then makes him God



Wahala for who know no scripture.

Verses 29-30,The Wisdom , Jesus was the Craftsman "Fashioning with" his Father & Creator.
" The Craftsman" is a living being created @ Verse 22.
Emusan LIENUS wedded to FALSE claims.

A creature was FASHIONED WITH YOUR god

Continue LYING and DECEIVING yourself.
It's on record that at Proverbs 8:22-30, your Trinity mentors, the Geneva Bible references Proverbs 8:22-30 to John 1:1.
Aramaic (Pershitta) is the closest language to Hebrew.
CREATE @ Proverbs 8:22 = Genesis 14:19

You can continue to wail, the next thing is to run to Hebrew or Greek google

View the screenshot evidence where your comrade KNOWMORE56 made a FALSE claim.
Emusan tie wrapper with FALSE claims.
.

How about the false claim you and your lying brothers have made

JaNosense the lying liar like his father the devil

Janosky:
#1
Mumu WAILER making FALSE claims
Is Greek stauros a traverse beam?

No wonder the lying liar like his father the devil cant answer my simple questions

He knows the moment he answer those questions, his balloon of lies will be deflated with a single pin.

1. Who killed Jesus, Jews or the Roman's?
2. Has Roman ever killed anyone on pole or stake?

Complete Jewish Bible says no !
Secular history from BBC/Washington Post & Greek literary works of Homer et all says no !

Emusan no get SENSE

1. Who killed Jesus, Jews or the Roman's?
2. Has Roman ever killed anyone on pole or stake?

You'll see the deluded lying liar JWs like his father the devil avoiding those questions.

#2.
None of the men you named in all the years of AD had any interaction with any disciples of Christ.
Apostles Paul and John alerted genuine believers about the GIBBERISH your mentors would introduce into the world.
Justin Martyr is NOT a Trinitarian.
You conjured several names who had no link to your Trinity GIBBERISH.

Tueh !

But your 8 men in Brooklyn have interaction with the disciples of Jesus Christ

So Justin isn't a Trinitarian that means Justin Martyr is a JWs

The same way your lying organization says in their publication "Should you believe in Trinity?" lied by hiding the true quote of Justin and even went further to say "The Ante-Nicene Fathers were acknowledged to have been leading religious teaching in the early centuries after Christ's birth death. What they taught is of INTEREST". pg. 7

So if what this Fathers taught was interesting, why the same organization denying Jesus to be God since the same Fathers taught Jesus is God.

Just a few quotes from Justin Martyr:
1. Justin Martyr 150 AD: "The Father of the universe has a Son, who also being the first begotten Word of God, is EVEN GOD" (Justin Martyr First Apology, Ch63)

150AD: "christ is called both God and Lord of Hosts" (Dialogue with Trypho, ch36)

150AD: Quoting Hebrews 1:8 to prove the diety of Christ "Thy throne, O God, is forever and ever" (Dialogue with Trypho, ch56)

150AD: Both Him, and the Son (who came forth from Him and taught us these things, and the host of the other good angels who follow and are make like Him), and the prophetic Spirit, we worship and adore." (First Apology, ch6) whereas the same Justin Martyr said in ch16 "Worship God alone" and in another place "Whence to God alone we render worship"

Now what this Fathers taught is of interest

MaxInDHouse:
Just when i decided to honour you

And who demanded the honour from you

you proved to be the pig whose comfort zone is inside the mud.

Best quote for the lying liar the greate Ponzi scheme promoter

Continue serving Jesus, He is your God even the 8 men in Brooklyn and your father the devil will always acknowledge and bow to Him.

Well suit yourself argumenator!

Only if you know how this perfectly described you. Hypocrite!

You've already spent 2 months and some days with the account you created in less than a year and your posts are over 8000 which I'm very such it'll touch 9000 before you click one year, compare with my own account of over 9 years with just 7months & days, with just over 6000 posts.

So who is the real argumentator

Janosky:
Shuuooo !!!!!!KNOWMORE56 why do you enjoy making your FALSE claims ?
In screenshot,Where did I type that claim you put up against my moniker?
Bros, dey fear God ooooo !!

Lying liar!

If Proverb 8 says 27 I was there when the Lord put the heavens in place and stretched the sky over the surface of the sea. 28 I was with him when he placed the clouds in the sky and created the springs that fill the ocean. 29 I was there when he set boundaries for the sea to make it obey him, and when he laid foundations to support the earth.

It's evident from this passage that the SPEAKER is different from the one who actually performing the action.

So if you're using Proverbs to proof Jesus creation then, it means Jesus never claimed to be used in the act of creation rather the "He" does it.

KNOWMORE56 vain attempt to divert attention away from Proverbs 8:22-30 exposure of his FALSE accusation.
He doesn't want to hear that Jesus the "wisdom" was the Craftsman working at his Father's side & through The wisdom the earth was made @ Proverbs 8:22-30, 1 Cor 1:24.[/b]

If you're not diverting attention and you not lacking scriptural understanding, you'll know proverbs 8:22-30 is actually exposing your lying mouth.

I remembered this same moniker once asked who is the "I" and "HE" in that proverbs which non of you could answer simply because it against your lying lips.

MaxInDHouse:
Oh no!
Is that your perception?

My perception or Jehovah isn't the one who inspired Daniel 7:14?
CEV: "He was crowned king and given power and glory, so that all people of every nation and race would serve him. He will rule forever, and his kingdom is eternal, never to be destroyed."

Unless you deny this verse isn't about Jesus Christ.

Well you can't serve JEHOVAH because He has no business with you,

Says the mouth piece of Jehovah

so you can only serve Jehovah through the instructions from His son {John 14:6} that's the import of saying:

“This is my Son, the beloved, whom I have approved. Listen to him.” Matthew 17:5b

So Jesus is just one of the prophets to faithful people today if not for this statement! Hebrews 1:5

Smile....jumping from pillar to post again.

Daniel 7:14 is there, you already admitted that you and your entire JWs families SERVE JESUS.

So stop confusing yourself you're already in the trap.

Jesus said "ONLY GOD SHOULD BE SERVED"

Pagan worshippers everywhere

Janosky:
AD , many years after Jesus died and his apostles were no more
How many centuries did it take your Trinitarian mentors to formulate the GIBBERISH DECEIVING you?

At least the evidence is that Trinity predated Constantine which your lying organization always propagated.

And if this people who lived close to the time of Jesus can say the early Christians worshipped Jesus along side of Father, is it your lying organization who came thousand years after the scene we should believe?

Mr JaNosense the lying liar JWs like his father the devil.

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John 19:6 Bill Mounce Greek Interlinear and Complete Jewish Bible as well as Secular history proven Emusan LIENUS wey lack SENSE.

Despite the fact that you quoted Mounce Greek where it's written boldly [b]"CRUCIFY HIM" you can still be calling it as your witness

When you know the word CRUCIFY was derived from CRUX

Secular history indeed!

can you provide the secular history that says Roman Empire killed anyone ON A STAKE?

Your SENSE no tell you say Crux is a Latin invention unknown to the Greek & Aramaic speaking world of Jesus days.
Jehovah's servants , John & others never had any symbol of Jesus impaled.

Greek stauros , upright stake/ pole is NOT pagan cross with a traverse beam.
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Emusan LIENUS continue DECEIVING yourself.
Pagans pretending to be Christian

Reason why the lying liar couldn't answer my questions.

Here are they again:
1. Who killed Jesus? Jews or Roman?
2. Has Roman ever killed anyone on pole or stake? Provide the evidence.

Even the Deu 21:22 you always run to doesn't favour you, I'll expose your ignorance on this if you try to say nonsense on this.

Lastly, even the Jews never used crucifixion as capital punishment. The Jews only have four capital punishments: stoning, burning, decapitation, and strangulation.

So how can Jesus be killed on a pole when neither the Jews and Romans used pole to kill anyone

Enjoy your delusion and lies

Janosky:
Matthew 4:10, Jesus Christ says continue to DECEIVE yourself.

Matt 4:10 "Jesus said to him, “Away from me, Satan! For it is written: ‘Worship the Lord your God, and serve him only."

And now the JaNosense will serve Jesus according to Daniel 7:14

Wahala for the 8 men worshipper

Barristter07:
I challenge you to provide where I said he command them FROM HEAVEN?

Where will Jesus commanded them from?

Ole....despite the fact that I exposed your lying mouth, you still have mouth to talk.

The Fact remains Christ has no authority over humans before coming to earth - Daniel 7:14. He is not their God.

He is your creator!
His uphold the whole universe without His power.
He is eternal life.
And many more.....

The same Daniel 7:14 says you and your father the devil will SERVE Jesus

MaxInDHouse:
And what has the quoted verse got to do with a servant serving his/her master?

It's there to see you're to SERVE ONLY JEHOVAH, so for you to serve Jehovah and Jesus at the same time, means you're a pagan like your founders

MaxInDHouse:
"For the holy spirit and we ourselves have favored adding no further burden to you except these necessary things: to keep abstaining from things sacrificed to idols, from blood, from what is strangled, and from sexual immorality. If you carefully keep yourselves from these things, you will prosper. Good health to you!" Act 15:28-29

So this is only verse your organization refusal for blood transfusion is based?

MaxInDHouse:
Oh! You don't know this before?

Why do you think i often refer to Jesus as our Master, Lord and King?

Well go and tell all your fellow Churchgoers that Jehovah's Witnesses from the GB to Maximus on Nairaland are all Servants of Jesus!

Waooooo I like that.

Now that you've confessed that ALL JWS SERVE Jesus Christ here is Jesus' word for you

"Jesus answered, “Go away Satan! The Scriptures say: ‘Worship the Lord your God and serve only him.’” Matt 4:10

You'll see how he will change mouth now

achorladey:
Some of their books that members will use as reference when making presentations after the presentation that particular member will be called back and corrected for using such reference.

Na when dey know the book contains what they cannot defend they recall them quick quick and some destroyed paapaa.

The book is so full of errors and misrepresents most cited author's intent.

What even make the book worst is how they displayed their dishonesty by forcing words into people's mouth. As that's not enough, they went as far as quoting ATHEIST SOURCES