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Bishopkingsley:
No

That is not a barrister remember JW don't go to school

They don't have lawyers or doctors in their mist

They only have people who will build things for them

Since they don't believe Jesus is preparing anew earth for us

Smile.....that useless law wasn't for Nigeria JWs because they know hunger will finish them

Thou I'm just using his moniker that way!

Barristter07:
New Heart English Bible " by A Son "

You know why your point is pure dust ? " His" does not appear in that text. All that is there is son

Explaining that Greek word, Strong's says


" hyiós – properly, a son (by birth or adoption);"

Now he has jumped to another translation but when this translation goes against him in another place, he will enter ghost mode

New Heart English Bible is more accurate than your perverted NWT now

Does the word OTHER appear in Col 1:16-18 text?

You hypocrite can call other translations out for inserting word not found in manuscript but will never call your demonic organization out when does the same thing.

Barristter07:
Whose disposal would the angels be on Earth ? If he can control them, that's power to command. ?

Lying liar! Does that mean to command them from heaven?

Anyway, Barristters are known for lying profession

Thankfully, Gave up everything never appear in the texts. You lied.

Just as CREATING ALL OTHER THINGS never appeared in the texts

Barristter07:
If the angels were sent to earth , Who will control them ?

Do you think I cannot call on my Father, and he will at once put at my disposal more than twelve legions of angels?

One thing is to lie another thing is to acknowledge your lies when you're caught.

Your claimed was Do you know he Said he can command angels to rescue him at the night of his trial?"

It's obvious He didn't claim to have power to do that.

You're caught on this lie openly.

The same way he wasn't called Emmanuel , doesn't mean that's not his name .

Point remains what he emptied was his appearance in the likeness of God.

Philippians is all about Appearance, that is why taking the form of servant doesn't mean taking the inherent features of his sinful brothers.

At least there's evidence that HE GAVE UP EVERYTHING including His name MICHAEL

achorladey:
This verse you cite ehn na like this dem dey see am


1. Personification does not prove personality for HOLY SPIRIT

2. Personification does prove personality for Jesus.

Ask them where I got that from. If you understand this, shikena.

You got it so well.

Barristter07:
Do you know he Said he can command angels to rescue him at the night of his trial ? He was still in control

Liar! He said He can ask His Father.

Which means, he wasn't on earth with such power.

What he set aside was his appearance in the likeness of God. That Philippians is clear enough

What of the name MICHAEL?

Was he also Michael on earth

[s]And as far as humans are concerned, he had no authority over them before coming to earth - Daniel 7:14[/s]

Thrash...

Barristter07:
He has Nothing of authority before coming to earth. Your point is baseless. What he set aside was himself existing in the appearance of God. You can't gave up what you don't have in the first place

He set aside EVERYTHING.

Including his name as Micheal or was he also Michael on earth?

But he gave up his name, or Michael wasn't part of what he has again

Barristter07:
Nothing like this existed in the manuscript.

But when your translation added the word "OTHER" it existed in the manuscript bah

See denial of CEV now

He emptied himself, when he took the form of a servant. The previous verse already mentioned what he emptied. His Appearance/form of God.

He gave up EVERYTHING or set aside, that is the point of that verse.

Barristter07:
Nothing BY taking another form ?

It's right there. It was reffering to change of appearance. Christ has no authority before coming to earth!

He can't be given what he already possess, to shred your lies about it's his function as Messiah not who he is.

CEV: Instead he gave up everything and became a slave, when he became like one of us.

Barristter07:
For a fact that body of Jesus cannot die or get sick unless forcefully killed which will lead to death due to physical laws, If untouched , no aging, no death, there is no sin in him , so he can't die by aging


he is definitely not in the same league with his brother's as far as inherent nature and characteristic is concerned. He won't age.

He was made in the form of a servant , like his brother's in every way by virtue of appearance not inherent nature/characteristics.

This apply to existing in the Form of God.

Philippians is all about Appearance! That's the point.

You haven't answered my questions!

Barristter07:
Set what aside ?

This is Philippians

"rather, he made himself nothing
by taking the very nature of a servant "

This is mentioning his change of appearance and form. Setting aside the form that has the likeness of God. .

It's his form he set aside, this text said nothing about him having any authority. You already confess that authority doesn't exist when he was in heaven, it's a prophecy. And you can't give someone what they already possess.

Lying liar, He made HIMSELF NOTHING!

Do you understand that?

To take the form of servant means he is now ready to live as someone under control.

Oponu...

Barristter07:
Philippians relate to APPEARANCE. Unless you can say he took the inherent features and characteristic of his brothers. There was NO sin in him. Not the same qualities. Jesus exist in God's appearance , then later exist in human Appearance. This human appearance enable him to die. You can't nail a spirit body. You can only nail a flesh subjected to the law of physical world with blood running through it's Vein. To burst your bubble further. If he wasn't forcefully killed, he can live forever on Earth as a young man. He is not subject to aging or sickness which eventually lead to death of his brothers

You haven't answered my questions.

Barristter07:
Do you give someone the authority and power they already possess ?

Oponu....

Wasn't the scripture said Jesus set it aside which is in confirmation with the prophecy of Daniel?

Read the highlighted, you seem do be sleeping when typing that.

Again Christ has no authority before coming to earth.

I'm not it's you who was drunk in deep sleep while reading it.


He is the authority. So you cry back to your father the devil who actually wants to snatch the same authority through back door

Barristter07:
This is the meaning of Nature .

Nature meaning

" the basic or inherent features, character, or qualities of something . "

Do you accept the inherent features and character/qualities are not the same with his brother's ?

The second option is that which relate to form/appearance.

I asked a question that time which I even emphasize that you shouldn't turn your blind eyes to, yet you did and now come back to spew thrashes.

Why was Jesus' body was able to take the sin of the whole world, if His body isn't prone to sin and the same with his brothers?

Lemme add this, why was the body able to die if it's not the same with his brothers?

Phil 2:6 again confirmed that Jesus is exactly God by having the same nature. No how you can twist that.

Barristter07:
Daniel 7:14 spoke about Authority given to him, was that something he already has or a prophecy ?

You said it's a prophecy connected his life as human.

Which means prior to being human, Jesus doesn't have any authority.

So don't be mentioning incarnation, Christ possess no authority before coming to earth in the first place .

Lol...

See ignorance!

Daniel 7 is about the Messianic prophecy which is what the Messiah will do and accomplished as in His HUMAN NATURE not WHO THE MESSIAH is before coming to earth.

Olodo....

Anyway, 1 John 1:2 again from your darling translation CEV: The one who gives life appeared! We saw it happen, and we are witnesses to what we have seen. Now we are telling you about this eternal life that was with the Father and appeared to us.

Barristter07:
The point is there is no sin in him which is not the same for his brother's. Sin lives in them. So they do not possess the same quality.

If I call you oponu now, it'll look like insult.

Sin lives in them doesn't MEANS THE HAVE DIFFERENT NATURE. They still both human.

Now back to the verse that said Made like them in every way, This Difference you highlighted made it clear that Form of servant talk about was a reference to appearance. Not the servants sinful nature.

He was made like His brother.in every way that is THERE'S NOTHING THAT MAKE SOMEONE HUMAN that wasn't in Christ the same thing Phil 2:6 talked about.

If you refer to the qualities - his brothers were born into sin, with nothing good living in them, sin rules, and he must be like them too in every way.

You still don't get it!

Barristter07:
Before coming to earth, you already proved he has no authority. So your point is baseless. And when he came to earth He can't give life until the Father entrust all judgement to him.

He still rely on someone else authority

Where did I prove the @underlined

Lying liar looking for a way out, I understand

Barristter07:
" And you know that Jesus came to take away our sins, and there is no sin in him. " 1John 3:5


His brothers :

" And I know that nothing good lives in me, that is, in my sinful nature " Romans 7:17

If Jesus had a body prone to sin it means there is sin in him just like his brother's .

The scripture clearly said There is no sin inside of him. Christ didnt inherit sinful nature. Emusan lie lie.

I've showed you why there's no sin in Him because that was the Father' place of dwelling to accomplish the redemption work.

If Jesus was not prone to sin, why was it be able to take the sin of the whole world?

Don't turn blind eyes to that question.

So the Expression made like his brother's In Every way was only to their appearance. Not their sinful NATURE be in which they were conceived . As for Christ there is no sin inside of him like his brother's

I've explained this several times just that your blocked head refused to grab it.

We human are only sin during our lifetime but our NATURE only make it possible because it's prone to sin and evil.

So what God did was to create a body prone to sin and death BUT IMMEDIATELY TOOK OVER IT before it get corrupted by way of living then when the time comes to accomplish its(the body) purpose, the God left it so that it can be prone to sin.

I know my explanation is so straight forward but because your father the Devil lives in you, you won't accept.

Barristter07:
All judgement was entrusted to him remember ? This is why he could give Life after judging someone Worthing of it.

He was given that authority.

You know that's all about His earthly mission because Jesus is the one who gives life and the very ETERNAL LIFE. 1 John 1:2

CEV: The one who gives life appeared! We saw it happen, and we are witnesses to what we have seen. Now we are telling you about this eternal life that was with the Father and appeared to us.

Barristter07:
[s]Like me tell what Exactly the nature of his brothers represent.[/s]

Just twisting

They were conceived in sin

Born into sin.

They are not perfect in anyway.

Jesus had the same things

Was Jesus Made like them in every way their nature was formed ?

Yes! But was only empowered to overcome them.

No. He wasn't conceived in sin, he was a perfect person. Which is brothers are not.

Conceived in sin means to inherit the corrupted nature of Adam which is for the body to prone to sin and death.

Jesus was perfect because GOD MAKES USE OF HIS BODY.

He feels weak, hungry, YET never speak of his own words because the FATHER LIVES IN HIM.

Clearly the " Every way " he was made like his brother's is not the nature they were born into, but their appearance.

So what is the reason the FATHER LIVES IN HIM?

The only time the Father left that body is when He took the SIN OF THE WHOLE WORLD.

When I say you people lack scriptural understanding, you'll think I'm joking.

Barristter07:
Made Like his brother's in every way , his brother's inherit sinful nature with their flesh, Did he do the same in every way?

Lemme give you Bible study again.

Yes Jesus inherited sinful nature by this I mean a nature PRONE TO DEATH AND SIN reason why He died but for perfect sacrifice The same nature doesn't need to sin which is why God made use of the body.

It's very obvious you are stuck! The text is simply about Appearance which is what I meant by exactly human. That is , Appearance of humans , if you say appearance of God. It would have been clearer

Not appearance but EXACTLY OF WHAT THE NATURE IS which is the reason why you're changing mouth about what you first said.

Again CEV: Christ was truly God. But he did not try to remain equal with God.

Was CEV translation wrong or not as you claimed NLT wrong?

Barristter07:
Which of the God, ?

Yahweh, Zeus, ?

Your 8 men in Brooklyn

Barristter07:
Matt 4:10 refer to who ?

God

Barristter07:
I guess you are stuck?

Made like his brother's IN EVERY WAY

Silly you was saying holy spirit make him Different which contradict the verse.

Made like his brother's in EVERY WAY.

Either this refer only to their appearance or the brothers evil nature in flesh and imperfections

If not because you're silly, you'll read where the scripture says Jesus was TEMPTED in every way YET without sin.

Which means Jesus is PURE HUMAN that prone to the same sin because of OUR HUMAN NATURE but He couldn't sin because the body is a house for God.

Get it straight into your dull skull, sin and evil doesn't make human human but because we have human nature.

But the point here is that just as you said Jesus shared human nature and makes Him EXACTLY human likewise Jesus is EXACTLY God for having God's nature.

CEV: Christ was truly God. But he did not try to remain equal with God.

Barristter07:
Read his statement at Matthew 4:10 . It will remove the wool over your eyes on who owns the sacred service

This is Jesus statement in Matt 4:10 "Jesus said to him, “Away from me, Satan! For it is written: ‘Worship the Lord your God, and serve him only."

But Jesus is God!

Barristter07:
Text said God and the Lamb ( two persons ) . Then said offer him ... Should that not tell a right thinking person that offer him is reffering to one person and not two ?

So which one is the text talking about?

Barristter07:
The Bible ascribe him that title. And the Bible is correct. Show me where Jesus claimed to be the Creator either ?

Where is the verse?

Barristter07:
So the verse is wrong, he is made Different from his brother's whom inherit sin ?

If after my explanation you couldn't grab that point it's not my fault blame your wacked brain.

Barristter07:
No rebuttal ? You can only have a point if you say Ehud being a savior is a lie because Jehovah has claimed that. Why could Jehovah claim Ehuds victory as His own ? He owns the power behind it.

Shows me where Ehud claimed to be ISREAL PERSONAL SAVIOR is my first question, which you close your blind eyes to.

Barristter07:
You are confirming it again. If he was made like his brother's in their very nature, he would be a sinner like all descendants of Adam. This shows he only become like them in appearance . Once again, His brothers are NOT perfect, they are sinners. He wasn't made like them in that very nature. Only their appearance

Jesus was made PURE HUMAN that's why He had HUMAN nature but The Holy Spirit in Him didn't allow sin and evil to tainted that NATURE.

So Jesus is GOD according to Phil 2:6

He's still dodging from CEV translation

Barristter07:
Jehovah could claim he is Isreals saviour despite Ehud does the Job because Ehud cannot be successful without his power. Jehovah's claim to stretch the heavens by himself follow the same, Without his powerful spirit no one can stretch the heavens .

See lies!

When you're done battling with that verse lemme know

Barristter07:
That shows he doesn't have any authority until the prophecy is fulfilled. He lack any authority before coming to earth.


Thank you for that admission

See the ignorance I'm talking about.

Daniel 7 is a prophecy of what the Messiah Will do and accomplished.

Thanks for displaying your ignorance.