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Barristter07:
Peter see animals coming down from heaven in vision too. I guess the animals are real.

When humans see God's face in reality , tell me.

Barristter07:
Because they are not humans but Spirit. Humans survive on blood, they can't live in heaven.

" No MAN " says God ...

Barristter07:
That entrusted spirit is Jesus right ?

So according to Jesus how many persons Know ?

Janosky:
The Bible says you are LYING, Mr LIENUS.

The Catholic Church, your Trinity mentors and Godfather of Trinity Scam PROVE that Mr LIENUS is a LIAR..

Trinitarian source, the New Catholic Encyclopedia (Vol. 13, p. 575):

“The majority of N[ew] T[estament] texts reveal God’s spirit as something, not someone; this is especially seen in the parallelism between the spirit and the power of God. When a quasi-personal activity is ascribed to God’s spirit, e.g., speaking, hindering, desiring, dwelling (Acts 8.29; 16.7; Rom 8.9), one is not justified in concluding immediately that in these passages God’s spirit is regarded as a Person; the same expressions are used also in regard to rhetorically personified things or abstract ideas (see Rom 8.6; 7.17). Thus, the context of the phrase ‘blasphemy against the spirit’ (Mt 12.31; cf. Mt 12.28; Lk 11.20), shows that reference is being made to the power of God.”

Yes, personifications are no positive proof of personality. For example, the Bible speaks of sin as ‘ruling as a king,’ “receiving an inducement,” ‘working out covetousness,’ ‘seducing,’ and ‘killing.’ (Rom. 5:21; 7:8-11) Wisdom is similarly personified and is spoken of as having “children” and “works.” (Matt. 11:19; Luke 7:35) Yet no one would claim that this means that “sin” and “wisdom” are persons. Likewise the personifying of God’s spirit does not conflict with clear Bible testimony that it is indeed “something, not someone.”

The Catholic Church, your Trinity mentors and Godfather have DISPROVE your FALSE claims as JWs have consistently been doing on this forum.

Bros, continue DECEIVING yourself.

Janosky:
Mr LIENUS forever ◄ Luke 7:35 ►
* New Living Translation But wisdom is shown to be right by the lives of those who follow it.
# Greek5043... . Mr LIENUS

Luckydubby7:
And what are you putting in place to reduce or stop reoccurring this year?
Or their own is just to give report.

DappaD:
And who told you the position of High Priest was solely for humans?

In fact the tabernacle built and that position held by humans were only a copy, a shadow of the main reality—heaven and Jesus Christ. Hebrews 9:24

Aaron, when he entered into the Most Holy compartment on the specified month and day, appeared symbolically before the very presence of God and presented blood that wasn't his own in the behalf of himself, his household and the nation of Israel. Leviticus 16:2, Hebrews 9:7

But Jesus, gave his own life as a ransom and his blood was poured out on behalf of many. Matthew 20:28, Hebrews 9:22

And since he's no longer a human but a mighty spirit being(1Peter 3:18)when he went to heaven, he presented the value of his blood before the ACTUAL presence of God which distinguishes him from humans who had been high priest in the past(Aaron,Eleazar etc). Hebrews 9:24-26

Henrymorre:
hope you have learnt and I have proved to you beyond every doubt, quoting the scriptures that the holy spirit is an angel of God. Who does not forgive if angered , no go and educate your pastor ;Dthanks.

Henrymorre:


Isaiah 63:10-12
But they rebelled, and vexed his holy Spirit: therefore he was turned to be their enemy, and he fought against them.Then he remembered the days of old, Moses, and his people, saying, Where is he that brought them up out of the sea with the shepherd of his flock? where is he that put his holy Spirit within him?That led them by the right hand of Moses with his glorious arm, dividing the water before them, to make himself an everlasting name? -

Continue reading. Who did they provoke?


Exodus 23:20-23
Behold, [b]I send an Angel before thee, to keep thee in the way, and to bring thee into the place which I have prepared.Beware of him, and obey his voice, provoke him not; for he will not pardon your transgressions: for my name is in him.[/b]But if thou shalt indeed obey his voice, and do all that I speak; then I will be an enemy unto thine enemies, and an adversary unto thine adversaries.For mine Angel shall go before thee, and bring thee in unto the Amorites, and the Hittites, and the Perizzites, and the Canaanites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites: and I will cut them off


Check the bolded


Continue reading

Form the first paragraph, we can see the holy spirit started fighting against them. From the second paragraph, it was the holy spirit that God send to Moses to stand by him divide the great see and win wars, and if they fight against the holy spirit angel of God, then the first paragraph comes into play again.

Barristter07:
No man can. If Jesus is a man, he can't .

Barristter07:
Jesus existence as a man simply means He can't access God's Face.

Exodus 33:20 - " He further said, “You cannot see My face, for mankind shall not see Me and live!” NASB

In short Jesus is no longer a man.

Only Spirit beings can

" See that you do not despise one of these little ones, for I tell you that their angels in heaven always look upon the face of my Father who is in heaven. " Matthew 18:10

Barristter07:
Read about personification in the same Dictionary.

Luke 23:46 - Was Jesus in heaven the day he died?

Test your assertion that human Spirit is a person.

Then two persons know, Making Jesus a LIAR

Jesus said the only person that knows, is the Father.

“However, no one knows the day or hour when these things will happen, not even the angels in heaven or the Son himself. ONLY the Father knows. " NLT

Henrymorre:
yes. And I quoted you with Bible verses and not from my own words. If you believe the Bible then all I've said is true. As the same Bible said the holy spirit is an angel. The problem with you people, is you don't read the old testament.

Henrymorre:
full-time Christian. Assemblies of God church

Auki:
Jesus was sent by Allah to preach to Children of Israel to avoid false worship and worship only Him alone.

However, Jesus as a God, Son of God or Trinity are all blatant lies.

Henrymorre:
the holy spirit is an angel neither is the holy spirit God.

Isaiah 63:10-12
But they rebelled, and vexed his holy Spirit: therefore he was turned to be their enemy, and he fought against them.Then he remembered the days of old, Moses, and his people, saying, Where is he that brought them up out of the sea with the shepherd of his flock? where is he that put his holy Spirit within him?That led them by the right hand of Moses with his glorious arm, dividing the water before them, to make himself an everlasting name? -

Exodus 23:20-23

Let me now express that here
Behold, I send an Angel before thee, to keep thee in the way, and to bring thee into the place which I have prepared.Beware of him, and obey his voice, provoke him not; for he will not pardon your transgressions: for my name is in him.But if thou shalt indeed obey his voice, and do all that I speak; then I will be an enemy unto thine enemies, and an adversary unto thine adversaries.For mine Angel shall go before thee, and bring thee in unto the Amorites, and the Hittites, and the Perizzites, and the Canaanites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites: and I will cut them off. -
Remember, only the holy spirit will not forgive when angered. We can clearly see that the holy spirit is indeed an angel.

MaxInDHouse:
[s]Aliko Dangote is a person so you can point to his investment and assets here and there, please where is Mr Holy Spirit working presently at least for everyone to know HE exists as a person?

Insults are welcome Sir! [/s]

Barristter07:
If that's his nature, then it means Jesus can't see God's Face .

Barristter07:
Listen and listen well, I gave you an example of a thing that knows a man's thought, human spirit . If human Spirit is a person , Jesus would have been in heaven the day he died , was he ? Luke 23:46

So a thing can be said to know. This doesn't count as persons

Only one person, The Father knows.

Barristter07:
Human Spirit knows a man's thought and it's not a person.

Barristter07:
Man could be used as an anthropomorphic expression for a Spirit person.

Fact: No man can see God's face and live .

MaxInDHouse:
Whoever does not believe in Jesus is doomed yet Judas Iscariot was found amongst his followers, does that nullified the fact that Jesus is the only way to salvation? NO!
The same is applicable here not all those following us are working out their salvation as they should but no single person outside the Organization can enter into the kingdom of our own God!

May you have PEACE!

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus use the pronoun "HER" for "wisdom" {Luke 7:35} whereas after considering what Solomon wrote about archangel Michael you guys claim "Jesus is the wisdom of God" {Proverbs 8:22-31}

yet Jesus is male not female o!

Sorry that i've been ignoring you and your post Sir!
Please present just a single gathering of people where Mr Holy Spirit is working out something benefitial so you won't have to continue agitating.

You angrily cancelled the points telling you what we should expect in the gathering where Mr Holy Spirit is working, i didn't mention the name of any group, but because you're aware that it's only amongst JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES that such fine results could be found!
May you have PEACE!

Janosky:
Bros, no dey DECEIVE yourself posting GIBBERISH
,* Luke 7:35, " Wisdom is proved righteous by it's children".
Na Which organ wisdom get to born children?
* Romans 6:23, sin pays wages, Bros , is sin an employer of labour ?
* Romans 7:11, "sin seduced me", sin na person?
1 Corinthians 15:55, death gives a sting , death has victory, na person?

According to your logic, sin , death , wisdom all na person
Bros, RECEIVE SENSE
Bros, Go and write your own Matthew 24:36.

Romans 11:34 Who has come to know Jehovah's mind?"
1 Corinthians 2:16, " we have the mind of Christ"
. .

Janosky:
Romans 6:23 ,How can sin pays wages? Is sin an employer of labour?
Luke 7:35, How can wisdom have children?

Use your brain & RECEIVE SENSE

Janosky:
English is NOT my Father's language
You grab the point I'm passing to you, that's the major koko.
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Mr LIENUS uses the MTN network (for a fee) to speak through the phone, Likewise God uses holy spirit to speak through people.

Romans 8:16,26 "spirit ITSELF" (KJV)
Mr LIENUS roger that

Barristter07:
Wait first, So you mean Jesus lied only the person called Father knows the day and hour when there is another person that knows ?

Two persons know but Jesus said one

Seriously, I mean seriously, Jesus is lying or what ?

This is one of the most silly rebuttals have heard.

" For who knows a person's thoughts except their own spirit within them? In the same way no one knows the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God. " 1 Cor 2:11

God's spirit is not a person, just as Human Spirit in the same verse is not a person, yet can know a man's thoughts.

Like 23:46 was Jesus in heaven the day he died ? Human spirit is a thing . That's why we can't say Jesus himself went to heaven

Comprehend?

Barristter07:
Jesus is correct because holy spirit is a thing , not a person. ONLY the Father , a person . Knows

Jesus would have been lying if holy spirit is a person, cos that makes two persons that know nullifying the word " only "

MaxInDHouse:
[s]PRACTICAL APPLICATION!

True worshipers of God will succeed in knowing what the will of God is when all those deceived by the Devil are confused! Luke 11:23
Everyone will notice the fruit of God's holy spirit in the gathering of God's true servants even though all of us are sinful descendants of Adam. Matthew 5:13-16, 7:16-18[/s]

It's the holy spirit who knows the mind of God that's helping his humble and obedient servants sought out what God's will is! Romans 12:2

That's the import Sir!

Barristter07:
The only option here is that holyspirit is thing.

Any attempt to qualify it as a person will make Jesus a Liar, only a Liar says " ONLY " when there it's not only that person that knows.

Barristter07:
Yes.

So do you accept ONLY The person called Father knows ?